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Next Xbox out in November for $499, $299 with sub – report

Friday, 3 May 2013 16:05 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

A report from Paul Thurrott claims the next Xbox will launch in early November for $499. Alternatively, you will be able to purchase one for $299 providing you’re wiling to pay a monthly $15 subscription fee for Xbox Live.

Thurrott said on Twitter May 3 (thanks, DrDamn) that he did “screw up one thing” in his report. He originally said the $299 version of the hardware would come with a monthly $10 sub to Xbox Live. He has since rectified his report to state it would be $15 a month instead.

The report also states it will have a Blu-ray drive – as previously reported, and will run on the core Windows 8 OS, also previously noted.

It was also noted in the report that: “The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use. This is source of the “always on”/“always online” rumors and isn’t as Draconian as many seem to believe.”

Microsoft will also release a third-generation Xbox 360 that “will be significantly less expensive than the current models,” and is currently codenamed “Stingray”.

We’ll find out more soon enough once May 21 rolls around.

Thanks, Neowin.

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112 Comments

  1. Christopher Jack

    So its just a neutered pc? I say neutered as its unlikely to support normal PC games so imagine Windows RT with even less functionality.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. CyberMarco

    Can someone enlighten me regarding why getting the console with a subscription and a monthly fee is such a “revolutionary way” to sell the product?

    I mean, you can already by things with credit cards or cash and pay with monthly installments. (is it the right term?)

    #2 2 years ago
  3. theevilaires

    ^ Ummmm its Microsoft….they have to come up with new schemes to fuck their loyal consumers dude. DEAL WITH IT! ;)

    #3 2 years ago
  4. PC_PlayBoy

    Would rather buy a Wii U along with a 3DS XL…

    #4 2 years ago
  5. PC_PlayBoy

    Windows 8 OS

    http://serve.mysmiley.net/adult/handjob.gif

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Templar_Dante

    “The next Xbox must be internet-
    connected to use. This is source of
    the “always on”/“always online”
    rumors and isn’t as Draconian as
    many seem to believe.”

    Anti-Consumer+Draconian confirmed.
    Im walking out that door MSFT.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. theevilaires

    LMFAO they’re finally going with Blu-ray huh…come on Microsoft I thought you were going to use some special kind of DVD9 cause Blu-ray isn’t needed :P

    If this thing is running any type of Windows OS prepare for it to be hacked to death.

    “and is currently called stingray”….Can you imagine these douchebags up in Redmond walking around the Microsoft complex touting is operation “stingray” almost ready for deployment. LMAO code name stingray….what is this the 90′s? :D

    #7 2 years ago
  8. OnionPowder

    @6 nothing is confirmed.

    @7 the 360 came out before blu-ray was out so it would have been difficult to implement.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Francis O

    This seems very likely. Nobody will buy it in Japan, Europe will be so so, and America will eat it up. Because….were stupid.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. lexph3re

    I like Windows 8.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. ps3fanboy

    hahahaha!… they still have forced pay to play online… i hope you like the advertisement you pay for. but it dont stop there “The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use”… hahahaha!.. always on drm confirmed, right there in ya face!

    #11 2 years ago
  12. fightclubdoll

    WHY!?!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! $500???? I seriously hope not. =-(

    #12 2 years ago
  13. monkeygourmet

    MS Steambox inbound! :)

    #13 2 years ago
  14. OnionPowder

    Expect $500 for the PS4 as well. Still less expensive than a damn iPad. And those get model revisions every single year (sometimes twice a year).

    @11 I swear if anything comes in that might not be 100% perfect for either Microsoft or Nintendo you automatically assume it’s true. Anything with Sony you’ll deny or spin to be good news. Stop focusing on brand names and focus on good games you sheep

    These are rumors nothing confirmed yet everybody loves to jump to conclusions.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. theevilaires

    Francis you’re American?….I thought you were French for some reason.

    Lex nows not the time to play devil advocate here ;)

    #15 2 years ago
  16. G1GAHURTZ

    I don’t know if this is true, or just another headline grabbing, fake rumour, but if it is true…

    I told you so!

    Two versions, with the discounted 720 ‘always on’, and a gold sub. This is how they can offer an expensive console at a lower price, or get a non loss making price for an offline version.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. MadFlavour

    WOW. Literally every single rumor I’ve heard about the 720 has been fucking terrible.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. ps3fanboy

    @14 if there is anything i dont like with the ps4 i will say so, dont worry. but at the moment there is none… nintendon’t and mickey$oft just make it so darn easy for sony to win this gen, it is nearly unbelievable…

    it is “noted” that “The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use”. so this is no rumors, it have been confirmed. it is not the first time mickey$oft are talking with two tongues.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. redwood

    299 WITH a sub? that’s a weird price point no? a real price point would be the magic number 199 with a sub!

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Sanwiches

    You guys are goddamn depressive.

    It looks like the Xbox might look good after all.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. ps3fanboy

    199 or 499 dont matter much if you are forced to pay 120 each year to use this xbox. it dont take a Einstein to see this gonna be costly. on the ps4 ps+ will be voluntary and you get free games to boot if you choose to go for it. sony let you play with your friends online as much you want for free, you as a customer have a choice. mickey$oft dont let you do anything before you pay their fee. with this option, going for a ps4 is just common sense… doing otherwise is just stupidity.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. lexph3re

    lol….. TEA….. I like Windows 8….lol

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Seraphemz

    @Onionpowder – about 360 coming out before Bluray, you stated that they couldnt implement it. But they were able to get a HDDVD add-on…but that failed when Bluray beat out the HD-DVD…so whats your point?

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Cobra951

    “The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use. This is source of the “always on”/“always online” rumors and isn’t as Draconian as many seem to believe.”

    How exactly is that not as draconian as it appears? If it MUST be connected, then it MUST be unacceptable.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Francis O

    @15

    Yeah….I’m American, and proud most of the time! But it seems like America has this stupid obsession with the Xbox that dumbfounds me.

    It breaks, RRODs, scratches disks, have to pay for online, and has the least amount of first party software….yet somehow, it sells so well here.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. monkeygourmet

    @18

    If your a real lucky boy, and you’ve been good all year, your mummy and daddy might buy you a PS4 for Christmas! Imagine your little face, it’ll be like N64 kid all over again!

    Good luck, make sure you ask mummy and daddy before you come on internet forums on your own again!

    #26 2 years ago
  27. OwningXylophone

    @23

    MS stated before they released the drive that they had no intention of releasing games on HD-DVD’s, as it just fractures the user base and causes confusion. It was always intended purely for watching films.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. Djoenz

    Ha Ha.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. dreamcastnews

    Why MS don’t use HD DVD dual layer discs for games on the new system is beyond me! Surely it’d be easier to use the tech they already pumped loads of money behind and something they could acquire exclusive rights for rather than pay Sony royalties to use BD discs?

    Everyone has a Blu Ray Player by now so it wouldn’t be the deal breaker it was back in 2007.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. zinc

    So is it $299 + $10 monthly subscription + $39 Live subscription?

    Or is Live included in the £10 monthly fee?

    #30 2 years ago
  31. DrDamn

    @30
    I’d expect a lot more than live included at $10 a month. Think more movies, TV and entertainment than games though. Maybe it’ll include some games in a PS+ kind of way.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. OnionPowder

    @Seraphemz They also released a wireless adapter so why not force everybody to use that? The HD-DVD ran through USB 2.0, there’s no way you could use that bandwidth to properly stream games anyways. That was just an optional peripheral for a userbase that requested it. Back then nobody knew whether or not Blu-Ray was going to take off so Microsoft covered their bases by providing a way to watch HD-DVDs.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. SlayerGT

    @30 if true the more important question is how long of a contract.

    #33 2 years ago
  34. Chaos Spectre

    Wow microsoft…just fucking wow

    #34 2 years ago
  35. aleph31

    For that price point they’d better pack a better hardware inside it than what has been revealed for the PS4…

    #35 2 years ago
  36. NightCrawler1970

    @8 you wrong about that —->the 360 came out before blu-ray was out so it would have been difficult to implement.

    Xbox had his own DVD version but they lost the marked called HDDVD..
    http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/09/xbox_hd_dvd_big.jpg

    #36 2 years ago
  37. KesMonkey

    @18: “it is “noted” that “The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use”. so this is no rumors, it have been confirmed.”

    If it’s not an announcement from MS, it’s speculation. Please explain how speculation = confirmed in your mind.

    I don’t know why I’m bothering. As a long time lurker of these forums, it’s clear (and has been for a while) that you’re either:
    a)a pathetic troll
    b)mentally immature
    c)mentally retarded
    or
    d) all of the above.

    Between you an erthazus, there’s an awful lot of stupid in these forums.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Da Man

    Blu-Ray is useless shit anyway..

    #38 2 years ago
  39. RocknRolla

    No thanks I am sticking with the Playstation .. As Always.. :) never regret it for a sec. This time it comes out with much more power, way way better exclusives ofcource free online cant forget that!

    #39 2 years ago
  40. Virginityrocks

    @7 We are about to launch “stringray”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPu9mLfLoOA

    @39 If all you care about is power, better exclusives, and free online, then why don’t you get a PC?

    #40 2 years ago
  41. CPC_RedDawn

    @7

    Yep me too, although Nintendo are using a different type of DVD format that supports 25GB per disk so I thought Microsoft would of gone the same way. But I suppose they need Blu-ray as its more or less the norm nowadays for movies and if they want to catch the mainstream audience then they need it rather than spending tons of money on a new tech just for it to fail like HD-DVD did.

    I just wonder what Sony has spent the money on that Microsoft has had to pay them to use it? also how much…

    #41 2 years ago
  42. CyberMarco

    The Blu-ray Disk isn’t a SONY exclusive technology. It was backed from various corporations, like Apple, LG, Sharp etc. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association)

    #42 2 years ago
  43. Silent Killer01

    Always on console and you still have to pay for multiplayer? wow I really hope it fails unless MS is going to chip in on my internet bill.

    @ #42
    And I believe there is laws that will get MS the same licensing price as everyone else that wants to use the technology.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. monkeygourmet

    “Known already, is that games are installed to the HDD. Plenty of sites have reported it, because it’s true. As a result of this, and the always-on requirement, games can now be played without the disc in the drive.

    There is another reason behind that. Games can now be downloaded from XBLM for free, in addition to being installed from disc, once the retail disc is activated on your account. The disc is basically just for installation and activation purposes.

    In addition to that, developers are being told that a month of Xbox Live Gold is automatically applied to a user’s account, once any new game is installed. This is essentially Microsoft’s answer to calls for a free Xbox Live service while softening the blow of eliminating the used market. If you buy a lot of games,

    Xbox Live basically becomes free. Live subscriptions will remain available separately as well though.”

    #44 2 years ago
  45. Hcw87

    People seem to forget that PS4 will have a subscription too, with no details announced yet. Most likely you’ll have to pay for cross-game chat etc (which PSN currently can’t handle). Might end up costing the same as an XBL subscription in the end if you want everything it offers. And i also bet it’ll still go down several times a month for maintenance like it currently does.

    Anyone with a clue knows that Xbox Live is a superior service compared to PSN, with crossgame chat, no monthly maintenance and it costs the same as _ONE_ game to have for a year.

    0.16 dollar per day if you pay the full 60$ for a year (cheaper if you look for offers).

    Worth it if you ask me.

    #45 2 years ago
  46. Templar_Dante

    @MONKEYGOURMET

    source?

    Lol

    #46 2 years ago
  47. Templar_Dante

    @MONKEYGOURMET

    source?

    Lol
    The same msft that tells investers the benifits of paid XBL to make profit giving away their golden goose? BS!

    #47 2 years ago
  48. Templar_Dante

    @HCW87

    Really?
    Source?

    #48 2 years ago
  49. CPC_RedDawn

    @45

    PS4 may indeed have a subscription too. But there is no way on this earth that you can say that Xbox Live subscription is better than PSN+ NO WAY AT ALL!

    I have had PS+ since it was launched and its been excellent and even better ever since. What do you get on Live… cross game chat.. what else? seriously. Nothing. PS+ you get 3.. yes thats right 3 FREE FULL PS3 games ever month. I have gotten games like Red Dead Redemption, Batman AC, Just Cause 2, Infamous 2, Hitman, Mortal Kombat, the list goes on ALL FOR FREE!

    I like many other could care less about cross game chat. It gets annoying when your playing a game and your friends want to talk. Most games have chat built in and the only time I want to talk to my friends is when we are in a coop game or multiplayer game. I dont want to talk to a friend whilst he plays COD and I play Killzone. What’s the point!?

    PS+ same price ONE full game for the year and you get 3 FULL PS3 game and now 3 FULL PSVITA games as well FOR FREE! not to mention free wallpaspers, avatars, early beta access for certain games

    Live is the same price, and you get no games, cross game chat which is annoying and pointless. Oh yea, and there IS monthly maintenance its scheduled to effect as little people as possible in that area ie in the middle of the night, same as PSN.

    #49 2 years ago
  50. Templar_Dante

    Its kind of pitiful how foolish some people are, defending
    1)Always On
    2)Paying for a P2P multiplayer service.

    I suggest stop being so emotionally invested in a huge corporation. Your shallow defence only breeds suspicion you’re in denial.

    Anti consumer behavior is just that.
    And when groups like Anon smell the anti consumer rat of Always On console, what will you do with a brick that wont work till its online again? What would a DDOS attack with Windows 8 X720s do to XBL?

    Oh, what does the future hold.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. Cobra951

    @44: I’ll take inserting a disc over having to ask permission online to use what I own every time I go use it. The first is an inconvenience. The second is flatly unacceptable.

    #51 2 years ago
  52. monkeygourmet

    @47

    Just something I read a minute ago, just random stuff, prob bollocks.

    The new games re activating XBL Gold could work though.

    @50

    PS4:

    Cross chat
    Online play
    Instant video upload
    Sharing to your social media sites
    Include your ‘real name’ on PSN
    Gaikai, game streaming
    Movie streaming
    Eyetoy 2 can log you in, player recognition and voice control
    Remote linking to other Sony products

    Are you seriously trying to tell me Sony’s console isn’t intended to be ‘always on’ either?!

    They are both the same, Sony is just pulling the wool over fanboys eyes, that’s all…

    #52 2 years ago
  53. Djoenz

    PS4 will have cross chat? FFS I did not know that..
    Useless feature imo.

    #53 2 years ago
  54. monkeygourmet

    @51

    Me too, welcome to next gen! :/

    Thing is, Sony has been VERY shady if you ask me. They haven’t confirmed or denied a lot of stuff MS is being crucified over.

    Still lots to learn about PS Plus, free online?, 2nd hand games, Gaikai and backwards compatibility…

    #54 2 years ago
  55. monkeygourmet

    @53

    Yarp, has been confirmed.

    It can be handy. Better to have the option, no?

    #55 2 years ago
  56. Djoenz

    I dont know if I will ever use it though. I tend to play story driven games too lol. Not familiar with it but I assume my friends cant just butt in right? I have to accept etc?

    #56 2 years ago
  57. monkeygourmet

    @56

    Yeah, that’s how it works on 360. It’s useful to have it as an option! :)

    #57 2 years ago
  58. monkeygourmet

    @58

    Am I going to walk around and rip your ——- lights down, in the middle of a scene? Then why the —- are you walking right through? Ah-da-da-dah, like this in the background. What the —- is it with you? What don’t you ——- understand? You got any ——- idea about, hey, it’s ——- distracting having somebody walking up behind Bryce in the middle of the ——- scene? Give me a ——- answer! What don’t you get about it?

    #58 2 years ago
  59. Brenna Hillier

    Comment @58 was deleted for spam, in case anyone’s wondering why monkey seems even less coherent than usual ;)

    #59 2 years ago
  60. monkeygourmet

    @59

    :D

    It was my Christian Bale speech I use to fight back against spam! ;)

    #60 2 years ago
  61. Battler624

    @Monkeygourment according to post @52 you say the ps4 is intended to be always on which is true to some degree but it doesn’t require an online connection to play the game itself unlike the next xbox which i assume it does, the so called information in this article have been around in the middle-east for too long, so if the next pieces of information are true to what i know then the next-xbox will be a rundown of the ps4
    taking 2 generations back quality of Graphics Cards and the ps4 to be as strong as a 7850 AMD radeon HD or its a modded version of it.

    #61 2 years ago
  62. monkeygourmet

    @61

    All I’m trying to point out that they will ultimately be very similar machines. Sony have put so much into the ‘shared’ experience, you will be missing out if your not ‘always’ connected.

    What about the system patches too?

    I can’t see much difference at all between the media focus the 720 and PS4 are obviously trying to push.

    #62 2 years ago
  63. viralshag

    @62, the difference is Sony is telling gamers what they want to hear… It’s clearly NOT all about the games as the PS3 offered a lot of the same services as the 360 and the PS4 will be no different.

    #63 2 years ago
  64. malethief

    I’ll just wait for the announcement confirmation as some of the details are so sketchy I’ll take it with a grain of salt. Either way I’m getting both systems at some point it’s a just matter of if I want to pay for ps+ or xbox live

    #64 2 years ago
  65. Templar_Dante

    Hey Monkey, you think PS4-XB720 will be similar machines? The only guy that says that is Michael Patcher, so you agree with that madman?
    You think 1820 GFlops is similar to 1200GFlops?

    The PS4 has seperate ARM CPU for OS and Background tasks.
    The PS4 has seperate chip for sound and recording/distributing/coding/decoding video.

    MSFT is rumored to be locking out two cores and 2GB of ram for the same fuctions.

    From a gaming perspectives these are two different beasts.
    From a media perspective, its rumored to be even more different.

    Unless you’re american, this console is not for you.
    XBL will be pushed to 10$ US per month and include access to ESPN and MLB etc etc.
    So if you live outside of the US and none of that stuff interests you, to bad. You WILL be paying the same/ or more for people that do. Weather or not you use the apps, you’ve paid for it already.

    #65 2 years ago
  66. Hcw87

    @48
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-20-playstation-4-out-november-has-xbox-live-style-subscription-report

    Google is your friend.

    @49
    Yes, you get free games that got released 1-2 years ago. I don’t know about you, but the games i want to play i play on release. Got no interest in waiting a year to be able to play it for free.

    ”I like many other could care less about cross game chat. It gets annoying when your playing a game and your friends want to talk. Most games have chat built in and the only time I want to talk to my friends is when we are in a coop game or multiplayer game. I dont want to talk to a friend whilst he plays COD and I play Killzone. What’s the point!?”

    ^
    Spoken like a true fanboy in denial (i got a Wii/PS3/360/PC and i play them all, so don’t even try spinning that around on me).

    Also you sound like a hypocrite when mentioning PS+, which most people with a PS3 pay for (and still whine about Xbox Live having a subscription).

    @50
    Not defending a company at all, and i play PS3 aswell. Just stating facts that as a service, Xbox Live is superior.

    #66 2 years ago
  67. polygem

    live is better for online
    ps+ is an awesome deal with a great variety of games. mostly games i havent played yet. can be overwhelming and a bit too much even.
    ds3 is shit.
    360 pad is awesome…wait the dpad sucks.
    i love halo.
    i love ratchet.
    marketplace is so slick and fast but there are ads on my dash.
    ps store is horrible.
    ps has a great variety in games.
    have i mentioned that i love halo.
    sony has very very very annoying fans.
    but i have witnessed some real weirdos on live too. definitley dont need xchat.
    i am cofused…what should i do?
    noone will help you.
    see, like last time: you decide – it wont be easy – or you get both. that is all you can do about all this.

    #67 2 years ago
  68. Djoenz

    @67
    Finally someone talking sense!
    I agree with you totally. Im a ps3 fanboy but you hit the nail bro.

    #68 2 years ago
  69. DrDamn

    @hcw87
    I think you need to check what you actually get on PS+ rather than what you think you get. Recent title are Hitman Absolution, Sleeping Dogs and the Cave.

    That said I don’t do comparisons between Live and PS+. Similarly priced but two very different services with value in both if that is what you are looking for.

    #69 2 years ago
  70. Joe Musashi

    @69 “check what you actually get on PS+ rather than what you think you get.

    Good point. Let’s not forget new titles that launched for free – such as Double Dragon Neon and Hell Yeah – Wrath of the Dead Rabbit. Most recently there’s been Thomas Was Alone and (I think) Knytt Underground.

    JM

    #70 2 years ago
  71. Hcw87

    @69
    Also old games you can buy new for very little.

    Anyway, the point is that there is no reason to flame Xbox Live for having as subscription when it’s been said that Playstation 4 will have subscriptions aswell.

    #71 2 years ago
  72. aleph31

    @polygem kudos for best post in this thread!!!

    #72 2 years ago
  73. DrDamn

    @71
    So you were wrong then? Also as you pointed out Live is low cost per month, so is PS+. Even with some older games they aren’t available *that* cheap. Full price it’s £3.33 a month for a lot of titles. Over the full year they are under £1 each – less if you have a Vita, even less if as you can get the sub cheap (as you can Live). I paid £20 for a full year recently. Where are you able to get hold of full titles of the quality on PS+ for less than a quid?

    I think the point is you should stick to discussing and extolling the virtues of a service you know about and not one you don’t. I agree Live is a good service if you play online a lot with friends.

    #73 2 years ago
  74. Hcw87

    @73
    Where was i wrong?

    Lets take me as an example for now (or any other hardcore gamer), when it comes to PS+.

    I buy every game i’m interested in when it’s released (or a few weeks after). Crossgame chat is a big convenience and it’s not included in PS+ (there was talks about adding it, but got canned).

    Why should i get PS+? I don’t really see any plus sides. You still get downtime a few times a month because of maintenance, and Sony is slow in updating their Store, usually a few days after XBL. They’ve also yet to patch Defiance on PS3 and they’re currently behind 2 patches (just an example). I just don’t see how someone can say that PS+ is a better deal than Xbox Live Gold. Atleast for me it’s not.

    #74 2 years ago
  75. DrDamn

    @74
    “Yes, you get free games that got released 1-2 years ago.”

    Right there. You are wrong on two count. They aren’t 1-2 years old and they aren’t free.

    I get what you are saying. For you Live is better value that’s fine. They are two very different services there is no need or point in comparing them. Try just clearly stating why for you something is good instead of attacking something which isn’t for you.

    #75 2 years ago
  76. sh4dow

    I’m willing to let them pay me $10 a month to pay $299 for it.

    #76 2 years ago
  77. Espers

    microsoft is gonna fuck up this time, windows 8 is a disaster and unfortunately this will be xbox 720′s fate … nevertheless why would sony accept to let microsoft install a blu-ray ?!

    #77 2 years ago
  78. OwningXylophone

    @77

    Because Sony don’t own & didn’t design Blu-Ray technology, it’s designed and owned by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), of which Sony is 1 of 19 directors along with companies like Apple, Warner Brothers, Disney, Intel & Dell.

    #78 2 years ago
  79. megaawesome

    Dammit Microsoft,

    Your greed just amazes me. I’m NOT buying the neXtBox, I barely used XBLG on my 360 because I don’t like paying a monthly fee to play online.

    Are they or are they not forcing us to always be online to play the games?

    It seems like the online connection will be required, just not a requirement to have XBLG, but still that’s going to destroy gameplay especially when speeds dip, and forget about when there is no service. You guys suck, why don’t you just make games more affordable, and give exclusive incentives codes inside new game cases so that people that buy new are rewarded for it. That would be so much better than always-on!

    Nintendo Wii U & Sony Playstation 4 for me, and companies better not block out the ability to play used or last gen games on the PS4, we bought the games with our hard earned money, so wtf?

    #79 2 years ago
  80. Rockin a Jack D

    The only thing that interests me about the new Xbox reveal is that it’ll show my new PC control pad. :-) I don’t give a shit about the console.

    #80 2 years ago
  81. Stephany Nunneley

    Post has been updated and moved back up top in order to inform everyone that Thurrott said he was mistaken on the $299 model’s $10 sub – and that it would cost $15 a month instead.

    #81 2 years ago
  82. G1GAHURTZ

    $10 was a guess in the first place!

    I don’t think this guy really knows any more than anyone else…

    #82 2 years ago
  83. DrDamn

    Assuming Gold stays the same price that makes it :-
    $499 + 2 years of Gold @ $60 = $619
    vs
    $299 + 24 x $15 = $659

    There was also rumours that every game will come with 30 days of Gold as standard. So buy 12 games a year and you don’t need a sub.

    #83 2 years ago
  84. G1GAHURTZ

    I think we all just need to wait for the 21st.

    #84 2 years ago
  85. DrDamn

    He also noted that this is the same as the current subs deal you can get on the 360 in the US … http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/consoles/entertainment-for-all

    #85 2 years ago
  86. Stephany Nunneley

    I usually just wait until the sub cards go on sale through Amazon. It saves me (depending) anywhere from $15-20 a year.

    #86 2 years ago
  87. Erthazus

    I want to see specs for 499$ machine. I want to see them and laugh my ass off.
    I just hope that 4K gaming will come next year with Nvidia/AMD new cards so these consoles could be forgotten as fast as possible.

    #87 2 years ago
  88. Christopher Jack

    Dude, get in the fucking real world, even GPUs that cost twice as much ALONE as a next gen console such as the Radeon 7990, GTX 690 & Titan couldn’t handle 4k gaming on max settings, even in SLi/xfire you’d probably only achieve 30fps but those 2 cards would quadruple the price of the console & that’s still before including the CPU, mobo, RAM, etc.

    Have fun with your extra pixels, the rest of us will spending that spare cash on something useful- like a life…

    #88 2 years ago
  89. Lengendaryboss

    @Erthazus
    Well thats one person enjoyment confirmed.
    Anyway interesting price points for the Xbox720, i just hope it has enough features, games and entertainment options to justify the price.

    #89 2 years ago
  90. ninjanutta

    I beleive the ps4 has it won in next gen console battle but i still want both,ps4 will be my first choice then xbox mucjh later once it gets cheaper

    #90 2 years ago
  91. Erthazus

    @Christopher sony slave,
    “Dude, get in the fucking real world”

    Keep repeating this sentence for yourself. Because you clearly don’t know the roadmap of next gen videocards from Nvidia.

    700 series of Geforce this year will have Purevideo VP5 hardware video acceleration (up to 4K x 2K H.264 decode). 800 series (2014 April-May release) will feature stacked DRAM and it will easily have 4K output for games.

    2K is already available for gaming and i’m playing with this resolution right now.

    #91 2 years ago
  92. NeutralBlade

    This is an update from last month’s story. The official word isn’t far off, so this will be explained in due time. I’m sure both M&S will be charging fees for online next-gen, and Sony isn’t providing an optional sub, (like PS Plus), I’m sure the vast majority of their services will require a sub fee.

    Sony really can’t afford it, nor want to miss out on sub cash this time around; since obviously their free online strategy failed to derail the 360. All this “sharing” they’re integrating and promoting with their system, is certainly going to come at a cost.

    One thing I will say, is that Microsoft’s $300 package may have it’s own unique sub fee, (higher than regular Live), in order to make up for the $200 loss. It remains to be seen if the $300 package will be a lesser SKU, not the full one at $500. If it’s the same SKU, then I wouldn’t be surprised if it carried a higher sub fee than the regular cost of next-gen Live.

    To speak on 4K gaming, I hope everyone here knows it will never happen on the PS4; the PS4 will support 1080p at best, nothing more. The most you may get out of their 4K feature, is streaming said services online, and compatibility with 4K products such as HDTVs and disc players. It also seems very unlikely that the PS4 will support 4K disc playback, as such a service has not even arrived on the market yet. Sony always hypes the new “premiere” feature of their new console, then later it either never surfaces or fails to meet expectations.

    The 4K tech is coming, but far off from being the standard for movies or gaming. And it will take several years before 4K is even standard. Cable HDTV services still hasn’t managed to make 1080p standard, after all this time. Don’t expect much from the 4K tech, other than very high price tags, minimal support, and extremely long download times if streamed.

    #92 2 years ago
  93. Phoenixblight

    @91
    H.264 is used for video playback and has nothing to do with games. As for the other stuff with the 700 series and 800 series that is all rumors and has not been confirmed yet but hey if you like to report rumors as facts thats your business.

    @92

    Thank you!

    #93 2 years ago
  94. Erthazus

    ^ It has to do with the fact that you are an idiot that don’t know that 700 series of Geforce will have a standard of 1.4a for 2K-4K resolution because without it Purevideo up to 4K can’t work.

    Rumor your ass. All of this stuff is confirmed. The roadmap from Nvidia is confirmed up to Geforce 900 series that will launch in 2016.

    http://blogs.nvidia.com/
    http://blogs.nvidia.com/2013/03/nvidia-ceo-updates-nvidias-roadmap/ – Read. Also, you are an idiot. Deal with it.

    #94 2 years ago
  95. Phoenixblight

    @94

    Projections are not fact. Nice try though.

    #95 2 years ago
  96. Christopher Jack

    How the fuck am I a ‘Sony slave’ when I’ve sold both my vita and ps3? I game primarily on my laptop these days & am leaning more towards building a desktop than purchasing either next gen console. Whatever, go make love to your $3k+ computer…

    #96 2 years ago
  97. Lengendaryboss

    @96
    Wahahahahaha :D

    #97 2 years ago
  98. Lewis247

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, there is absolutely no benefit of having allways on. Think of every single game being like sim city. It’s horseshit and it must not happen. There is no way I will buy a microsoft product again if they try and pull this one on us.

    #98 2 years ago
  99. Max Payne

    @98 Oh but they will. If M$ can force touch interface in Windows on desktop and lap tops , why wouldn’t they force something so stupid like always on.

    #99 2 years ago
  100. Cobra951

    @99: MS can’t force you to buy Windows 8, and they can’t force you to buy a console which is useless without an internet connection. Buying either is your decision. it will never be mine.

    #100 2 years ago
  101. nollie4545

    HAH AH AHAHAHAH Console fanbois raging over the fact a company want to make money from them.

    And arguing about GFLOPS ffs what are you like.

    #101 2 years ago
  102. theevilaires

    Why do you people keep commenting over articles like this. 17 more days people jeeez just wait and see what they will unveil later this month.

    #102 2 years ago
  103. roadkill

    Trololol!!

    #103 2 years ago
  104. sg1974

    So the end of subs for the full-priced version? £299 of Her Majesty’s finest English Pounds Sterling, no gouging subs, the end of MS points, and you have a guaranteed sale.

    #104 2 years ago
  105. silkvg247

    “The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use. This is source of the “always on”/“always online” rumors and isn’t as Draconian as many seem to believe.”

    .. what’s the difference?

    #105 2 years ago
  106. Djoenz

    The more expensive nextbox will have free online. The subscription based one will not obviously.

    We’ll see soon enough. Let the games begin.

    #106 2 years ago
  107. Sini

    lol no, you will always have to pay for online gold status, but the cheaper one will require you to for a year.

    #107 2 years ago
  108. DrDamn

    @105
    Always On can simply mean that is how the system is designed, not that it is an absolute requirement. I.e. it has a low power mode which means it can be left on when you aren’t using it and still react to requests (like downloads) or recharge controllers or react to a request to turn itself on. The PS4 is designed to be Always On, hell the Wii is too (see WiiConnect24).

    It could be that they support publisher DRM requests for games to be played only when connected, or they need to be validated.

    Less draconian that a “won’t work full stop unless connected” anyway.

    ‘Always On’ is actually a feature, not a necessarily a requirement.

    #108 2 years ago
  109. Lengendaryboss

    @DrDamn
    Thanks for clarification.

    #109 2 years ago
  110. G1GAHURTZ

    @107:

    lol no, you will always have to pay for online gold status, but the cheaper one will require you to for a year.

    And when, exactly, did Microsoft announce this?

    #110 2 years ago
  111. Da Man

    It doesn’t matter.

    The new Xbox will have the best hardware, online and video games. The likes of Halo and a PGR is all it needs.

    #111 2 years ago
  112. Djoenz

    @107
    Hehe.
    According to Thurrott its a two year deal. You have to pay and thus have to be always online or the console with sub wont work.

    The 500 bucks one is something else they oughta make online free xD

    #112 2 years ago

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  • Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor takes Game of the Year at GDC Awards 2015

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  • Madden 15 added to EA Vault

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  • Source Engine 2 doesn’t have hidden costs or royalties – but is Steam exclusive

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  • Final Fantasy creator hates sequels

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  • Guardian complaints led to the closure of Destiny’s Loot Cave

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  • Metal Gear Online commentated trailer explains stuffed dog – but not invisibility

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  • Elite: Dangerous Xbox One trailer shows off space MMO

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  • Battletoads to appear in Shovel Knight Xbox One

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  • The Division pre-alpha footage leaks, Ubisoft says it’s well out of date

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  • Microsoft HoloLens designer killed in hit and run accident

    Very sad news out of Redmond this week, as Mike Ey was killed in a tragic accident. Ey, 30, was one of the key project designers on Microsoft’s HoloLens AR headset. He was killed on Saturday morning in a rear-end collision. The driver of the second vehicle fled the scene but was tracked down by […]

  • AMD throws support behind VR with new low-latency anti-nausea tech

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  • Danganronpa 3 in the works, but a long way off yet

    A new Danganronpa is happening. Danganronpa 3 is in the very, very early production stages, writer Kodaka Kazutaka has confirmed. Nothing about the project is “set in stone”, Kazutaka told Polygon, so there are no details to share yet; the characters and story may change several times before being finalised. The writer said he’s weighing […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare MLG Pro League 2015 schedule announced

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  • Happy Birthday PlayStation 2, you are almost old enough to drive

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  • Here’s what the final version of Valve’s Steam Controller looks like

    A look at the updated Steam Controller has surfaced via a hands-on post from Polygon. Valve said what you see in the images below is the final version of the controller. The controller has gone through numerous revisions since it was first revealed, but it seems Valve has decided on two touch pads which work […]

  • The Sims, SimCity developer closed down

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  • Gigantic MOBA coming to Windows 10 and Xbox One with cross-play

    Today during GDC 2015, Microsoft announced that the new IP from Motiga called Gigantic will be cross-play enabled. Slated for Windows 10 and Xbox One, the five-on-five third-person battle arena game allows the player to select from an array of heroes with distinctive powers and play styles. Players will then make their way through areas […]

  • Here’s a look at Unreal Tournament DirectX 12 gameplay

    Epic Games is creating Unreal Tournament using Unreal Engine 4 running on DirectX 12, which Microsoft says “sets a new bar for visual fidelity.” DirectX 12 is a single API developers can access across Windows devices, which can result in a 20% improvement in performance over DX11 running on the same machine. The Unreal Tournament […]

  • Wireless adapter for Xbox One controllers out later this year

    Microsoft announced at GDC 2015 today it will that all wireless Xbox gaming accessories will be designed for and supported on both Xbox One consoles and Windows 10 PCs moving forward. Later this year, a wireless adapter will be released, allowing current Xbox controllers and future devices to be used wirelessly on PCs. This will […]