Battlefield 4 dev: we’ve passed the point where Frostbite 3 is impressive

Thursday, 28th March 2013 08:06 GMT By Dave Cook

Battlefield 4 developer Patrick Bach has stated that gamers are no longer impressive with raw showings of tech, as seen in the game’s GDC reveal trailer. According to Bach, what’s important now is how DICE uses that tech to further the payer’s experience.

It’s a funny thing, because I raised this very same concern yesterday, suggesting that shiny visuals are ace, but when the experience is the same old thing then that feels like a chance squandered.

Speaking with Eurogamer, Bach said of the matter, “Frostbite 3 grew out of where we were with the Frostbite 2 engine. Like Frostbite 2 was tailored to Battlefield 3, Frostbite 3 is now tailored to deliver Battlefield 4. We are the guinea pigs, pushing what is possible to do from a game engine perspective.

“We’ve come to a point where it’s not important to talk about Frostbite that much. Frostbite is a tool. We have passed the point where we will impress people by talking about the technological wonders. What will impress people is the experience we’ll get from the output from when you use the engine.”

Bach added that Frostbite is like a car engine, where people ask how fast car goes, what it feels like to drive, rather than asking about the raw nuts and bolts inside. He conceded that yes, next-gen needs to be more than polygon counts and particle effects.

“There have been struggles, of course, with the whole mindset change. When you talk next-gen, we’re not talking consoles, we’re not talking technology any more, because most new technology is based on an evolution of old technology. It’s more memory. It’s more powerful GPUs. It’s more powerful CPUs. But it’s still the same technology at its core, and you can do more with it.

“Next-gen needs to be more than just more polygons. To us, it’s like, how do we evolve the gameplay? How do we evolve the narrative? How do we evolve the things around the technology? How do we make it more Battlefield?

“So, moving elements from multiplayer into single-player is one way of evolving it. How do you get people to care about the characters, is also lifting the bar, rather than just doing the stereotypical stupid shooter, where you don’t care about the missions or why you’re doing what you’re doing, and why do these guys around you even exist?”

Well said that man. What’s your view? Let us know below.

Battlefield 4 is out on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 this Autumn.



  1. Docker Al

    60 frames a second, this time, on consoles or fuck off.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. manamana

    Sorry Bach, it looks like another stupid shooter. Evolve the narrative and gameplay? Okay, bring it on. But I don’t expect anything groundbreaking new…

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Shade

    So Call of Duty fanboys are here.Call of Duty may have 60 fps but the gameplay is boring at least for 30 fps on BF4 you get much better graphics,destruction.No wonder why all the kids play COD because is very simple where on Battlefield you need some skill.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. M. K.

    I hope he’s serious. BF is getting boring. I mean, if they would make ONE good game and milk it, I’d understand, but they don’t… They had BC2 and didn’t make a better game, they made BF3 :( Now step up and make a decent shooter!

    /e: @3: If you think, that you need more skill to play BF3, then you’re atleast as stupid as the so called “Call of Duty fanboys” ;)

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Sanwiches

    “… has stated that gamers are no longer impressive

    But I wanted to be impressive :(

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Shade

    #4:Call of Duty is a boring corridor shooter and is very easy to aim and kill where on Battlefield it is a little trickier to aim.A new COD is coming this year go ask your mommy to buy it for you.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. M. K.

    I don’t even know what to say :D

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Shade

    Im not saying COD sucks but Battlefield just offers so much more.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Sanwiches

    “Call of Duty is a boring corridor shooter…”

    So you had to put your opinion in there, and phrase it like its a fact although it is very subjective. Pay attention to the way you say things.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Shade

    If Call of Duty is not a boring corridor shooter then what is it.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. Sanwiches

    If you think it’s boring, then I don’t care. Just don’t say it like it’s a goddamn fact. Some people enjoy it, I do too (and there’re even people that enjoy both games o:). It’s about respecting those who do not share your opinions.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. harr0w

    Everything Bach said should go without saying for devs. Your next game should be better more immersive a new experience for players to get engrossed in or your not doing your job and that is where the problem stems. The past seven years have just turned into rinse and repeat for the big company’s which in turn has strangled the creativity out of the industry. No more taking chances on new IPs just sticking to the same old shit year in year out. The consumer is to blame for not speaking up and telling them this shit is not good enough, give me my £50 worth. Thats why kickstarters and modding have been the only thing to breathe new life into the place in recent years. Don’t get me wrong there has been some epic release to but consumers can no longer let pubs/devs get away with releasing substandard piles of dogsqeeze. Rant over thank you please.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. roadkill

    No we have not passed that point yet. Improvements can still be done in every field. But well done with FB3! It looks awesome!!

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Ajsman

    Skill in BF3? Hahahaha… I guess because of all that required skill bullets fly everywhere but at the point you are aiming for. Even when using ADS. You can throw a rock and hit a MP FPS more competative than BF3. Including CoD.

    #14 2 years ago

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