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Nvidia: PS4 snub “clearly not a technology thing”, consoles an “opportunity cost”

Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:29 GMT By Brenna Hillier

The PlayStation 4 uses AMD tech, and Microsoft’s upcoming console is heavily rumoured to do the same, but rival Nvidia doesn’t care, saying next-gen consoles aren’t worth the company’s time.

Nividia supplied tech for the current generation of consoles, but speaking with GameSpot, senior vice president of content and technology Tony Tamasi said it wasn’t interested this time.

“I’m sure there was a negotiation that went on, and we came to the conclusion that we didn’t want to do the business at the price those guys were willing to pay,” he said.

“Having been through the original Xbox and PS3, we understand the economics of [console development] and the tradeoffs.”

Tamasi said Nvidia is “building a whole bunch of stuff” in other areas, and didn’t want to devote resources to console tech.

“We had to look at console business as an opportunity cost. If we say, did a console, what other piece of our business would we put on hold to chase after that?” he said.

“In the end, you only have so many engineers and so much capability, and if you’re going to go off and do chips for Sony or Microsoft, then that’s probably a chip that you’re not doing for some other portion of your business.”

Tamasi didn’t say anything about Microsoft’s Durango, of course, but said that when it comes to Sony, AMD had business to spare while Nvidia didn’t.

“We’ll see how that plays out from a business perspective I guess. It’s clearly not a technology thing,” he added.

Thanks, DrDamn.

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49 Comments

  1. Gekidami

    I’d hold the 100 metres world record if i had the time to do it, Usain Bolt clearly has nothing better to do though.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Stardog

    Mobile chips is where the money is, and it’s a better idea to focus on that with their Tegra chips.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Bashtee

    @1 nailed it.

    Bitter tears from Nvidia. There must be a reason why all big three are using AMD…

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Connor

    Simple Nvidia has no APUs and no X86 license.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Erthazus

    AMD is just cheaper, they (Nvidia) have no x86 license and their market right now is for Tegra 4 and high-end gaming stuff which surpasses any AMD product to date.

    AMD is just cheap.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Shade

    Nvidia video cards are much more expensive than AMD and maybe gives you a little more performance but not worth it in the end.I always prefer AMD card over Nvidia because it gives you good performance for a good price.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Djoenz

    Doesnt matter even if the game is shit most pc gamers just want to play it on
    Ultra settings and jizzle over how über their hardware is.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. CPC_RedDawn

    @5 AMD is NOT cheap by an means. I have two HD7970′s both overclocked in my rig and they are insanely fast. BF3 maxed @ 5760×1440 on triple monitors is simply amazing and gets around 50-90fps even in 64 player battles.

    Just because AMD are clever enough to put money into APU technology does not mean they are cheap. Their APU’s are simply amazing for the price point, the AMD A10 5800K is simply an excellent buy and gives some great performance. Then you can overclock it to around 5GHz with a decent cooler and through in a HD7770 which is around £120 and overclock the hell out of it too and you could play literally any PC game out their on medium to high settings @ 1080p with VERY good frame rates.

    PC gaming is all about the bling and having the most tech, its about control. Control over your system and your software (ie games). If you have the money you can go triple Nvidia GTX TITAN GPU’s and have some an amazing experience maxing out every game and benchmark at silly resolutions and silly frame rates. Or you can build a system that costs almost a fraction of the price and still play all the games you want.

    Remember, the most expensive does not always mean the best I thought everyone knew that.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. OlderGamer

    Erth +1

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Erthazus

    @8,
    They are cheap. They have cheap technologies and while their videocard stuff are not that bad, CPU is a worthless POS compared to Intel’s every tech since Maxwell chips.

    Also, compared to Nvidia they don’t have interesting technologies at all. Nvidia have 3D Vision, PhysX.

    Only recently AMD started to use TressFX in Tombr Raider but for now it’s a failure.

    AMD is just not interesting and that’s why they have 25%-30% of market share compared to Nvidia’s.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. spoffle

    @5 so not only are you a PC fanboy, you’re also an nVidia fanboy too? Oh lawd.

    You do realise that nVidia’s GTX680s are out performed by AMD’s 7970s right?

    I get the feeling your understanding of GPUs is limited to “nVidia are the best” am I right?

    In the real world, nVidia is just crying bitter tears, and do you know why? Because no one likes working with nVidia, and nVidia have a lot of issues when it comes to reliability, just take a look at the times they’ve released drivers that have killed graphics cards dead, or all those laptop GPUs that had a failure rate in the 90% region.

    The issue here though isn’t really hardware, nVidia are butthurt because they are going to struggle coercing developers in to messing around with performance on non-nVidia graphics cards as AMD’s developer relations is growing very strongly, whilst nVidia’s is reducing.

    Also, to Brenna Hillier, nVidia didn’t supply tech to the current generation consoles. They did only the GPU for the PS3. AMD, then ATi did the GPUs in the Xbox 360 and Wii.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. _LarZen_

    Ah Nvidia, why so sad?

    #12 2 years ago
  13. GwynbleiddiuM

    @Erth there are very few times that we disagree with one another Erth, this is one of them. Their prices are surely more economically sound and the performances they provide with their GFX Cards are acceptable enough for anyone to pass on the nVidia counterparts. I’m a very happy owner of a Radeon HD 5850 for I think 2-3 years and when I’m ready for an upgrade I’d surely put the price/performance factor as priority. You say cheap I say economically good and performance-wise great. Don’t forget that it was AMD who started using GDDR5 memories while they were also the first fully supporting DirectX 11. nVidia also failed a lot with PS3′s GPU. nVidia is too expensive for no real good reason. I like their PhysX tech but it all ends there.

    @11 She said original Xbox which had nvidia tech (NV2A chip).

    #13 2 years ago
  14. spoffle

    @8 PhysX is dead for one, and even then it’s been clutching on desperately. Barely any game even uses PhysX properly, the way nVidia have handled PhysX is just a joke.

    Now that all the consoles are using AMD hardware, and the hardware will be at a level to support compute tasks on the GPU such as physics, real GPU physics is going to take off which will be the end of PhysX because nVidia is NOT going to open up PhysX and CUDA to run on non-nVidia hardware, they have issues with doing anything that isn’t proprietary nonsense.

    And 3D? Are you being serious? You do realise that 3D isn’t restricted to nVidia right? You can use 3D on AMD set ups as well.

    Also, speaking of being cheap, you do realise that nVidia MASSIVELY cheaped out with the GTX6 series don’t you?

    The reason why they have 2GB RAM as standard, and the reason why they don’t allow over volting? What about the GTX670 on that tiny PCB? It’s all because nVidia has been in extreme cost cutting mode to reduce their expenses.

    It costs nVidia probably less than half the money to produce a GTX680 than it did to produce a GTX580, and yet they are still selling them at ridiculous prices. If only you weren’t so blind.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Erthazus

    “In the real world, nVidia is just crying bitter tears, and do you know why? Because no one likes working with nVidia, and nVidia have a lot of issues when it comes to reliability”

    So who is fanboy here, eh?

    “so not only are you a PC fanboy, you’re also an nVidia fanboy too? Oh lawd.”

    I’m a fanboy of a good product that has interesting technologies in it like PhysX, TEGRA, 3D vision and not some shitty TressFX that does not work properly.

    “The issue here though isn’t really hardware, nVidia are butthurt because they are going to struggle coercing developers in to messing around with performance on non-nVidia graphics cards as AMD’s developer relations is growing very strongly, whilst nVidia’s is reducing.”

    Oh yeah. that’s why AMD’s market share is 25% or 30$ at best. good luck pal.
    Anyway, I could care less about AMD at all (Even if their future next gen stuff will have more power in them which in most cases not. GTX 690 or Titan right now), but until they will make interesting techologies 60%-70% of users won’t care about AMD. Period.

    Well then, i’m going to play ArmA 3 right now with PhysX. Good luck pal.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. spoffle

    “So who is fanboy here, eh?”

    So you don’t understand the difference between criticism and being a fanboy then do you?

    “I’m a fanboy of a good product that has interesting technologies in it like PhysX, TEGRA, 3D vision and not some shitty TressFX that does not work properly.”

    What has TEGRA got to do with anything desktop GPU related? PhysX as said is a joke, barely any game even uses it properly.

    And again, you can get 3D on AMD graphics cards, I don’t understand why you think you can’t.

    As for TressFX, it’s not an AMD technology, it runs on nVidia graphics cards.

    “Oh yeah. that’s why AMD’s market share is 25% or 30$ at best. good luck pal.
    Anyway, I could care less about AMD at all (Even if their future next gen stuff will have more power in them which in most cases not. GTX 690 or Titan right now), but until they will make interesting techologies 60%-70% of users won’t care about AMD. Period.”

    If you’re going to use phrases, at least get them right, it’s “I couldn’t care less”. Saying “I could care less” means you do care.

    Also, you do realise that ARMA III doesn’t use proper PhysX don’t you? It’s all done on the CPU, not the GPU.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Dragon246

    Remember the phrase – Once bitten, twice shy?
    Nvidia royally bitchslapped both MS and PS3 with Xbox and PS3, both suffered from pricing issues because of Nvidia.
    Also worth of note is that it was nvidia that blocked gpu-cpu on a single die in ps3 super slim , which is something 360 introduced in slim to cut costs. So both MS and Sony had bad experiences with Nvidia in Xbox and PS3 respectively. No wonder Nvidia got the boot.

    @Brenna,
    +1 for perfect heading, not that sensationalistic crap gamespot posted.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. LordSkyline

    Tho saying Nvidia is just being bitter should really look at some of Nvidias Revenue break downs by “business” their consumer part (includes consoles, Tegras, Iceras and embedded products) makes up about 10% of their totaly revenue. So ye they really do not have to care for it much.

    And personally, if I take a look at AMDs current financial situation (their GPU department is nice n all, but that isn’t the whole cake) I, even as quite the Nv fan, am quite happy they make Bank from the next consoles. Because if you look at their current financial situation, it’s everything but good and without a turnaround Nvidia (and Intel) would get full monopol in the GPU market quite soon.
    And no matter how huge of an Nvidia (or Intel) fanboy you are, you don’t want that.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. xxJPRACERxx

    I prefer nVidia but monopoly is never good. If this can help AMD a little then that’s good.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Clupula

    I’m totally imagining the guy from nVidia saying all this in the rain, outside a big party that Sony and Microsoft are holding.

    And there’s sad piano music playing after he’s done, where he walks back into the rain, his head down, one final look at the party, out of the corner of his eyes.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. blackdreamhunk

    I too like nVidia to be honest I haven ever tried amd video cards I am happy with nVidia. I feel that nVidia takes care of their pc gaming fans kinda like how vavle bioware,blizzard ArenaNet does.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Kalain

    nVidia aren’t butthurt/bitter/etc etc..

    AMD had to accept the low prices MS & Sony where willing to offer, otherwise they would probably go under by the end of this year or next year. AMD have only made losses for 2012, if you go and read their financial report, nVidia were making a profit.

    This is something that AMD had to do. They didn’t really have a choice.

    If AMD where making profits like nvidia were, then your consoles would probably have weaker specs and cost more money.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Samoan Spider

    If this helps AMD get their new am3+ CPU to market quicker I’ll be very happy. As people have said AMD offer an excellent price:performance ratio so I stick with them. Intel is probably worth the cost increase but do I really have to spend out on a new mobo every single CPU upgrade. You betcha so no I’m sticking with AMD. Oh and just to fuck erth off as usual phys runs perfectly well on my 7850 in borderlands 2. There only game I own with decent implementation of it. High doesn’t run well but medium still let’s me see all the debris, textile and liquid physics. And Google hd3d while you’re at it. Its 3d vision only by another manufacturer gasp!

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Da Man

    Another thread with passionate, barely articulate hardcore arguing over inane internet pseudo topics and descending further into deprived insanity.

    You sad nerds.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Gheritt White

    @24: +1

    #25 2 years ago
  26. BULArmy

    nVidia are just not interested in the consoles because the margin for profit is very, very low. Too keep the prices of dem consoles low, the hardware must be given with really low price.

    Lets say that each of the two new consoles will sell around 100 mil in their lifetime. Some smartphones sell that number in 6 MONTHS.

    AMD are in serious finfancial trouble so even with the monopoly of the console sphere they can go under. In both CPU and GPU PC markets they have around 20% of the market aginst the 80 for Intel and nVidia respectivly. It is sad they are in risk of going down, because without competition things can get very bad. Intel and nVidia could do whatever they want with the prices of their products and the consumer will sufer.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. G1GAHURTZ

    Da Man wins it, yet again.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. viralshag

    More pointless internet politics on the gaming front. Of course, they’re just crying because their chips won’t be in the new consoles, I’m SURE that’s what this is.

    They are one of two major graphics chip companies, I’m sure if they really wanted their tech in the consoles it would be. And I’m sure the ticket to entry for that would be dropping their price below what they actually want to.

    After one very long generation of nVidia chips in consoles, I’m sure they have enough experience to judge whether or not that would be worth it.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Bashtee

    @15 I don’t see any reason to pay more money for less or equal performance. Therefore, please explain to me what cheap technology AMD is using and why Nvidia is better.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. blackdreamhunk

    The PlayStation 4 announcement last month immediately led to a PS4 vs Xbox 720 debate, but perhaps Sony and Microsoft’s next-generation consoles are competing for second place.

    “Compared to gaming PCs, the PS4 specs are in the neighborhood of a low-end CPU, and a low- to mid-range GPU side,” said Nvidia’s Tony Tamasi to TechRadar.

    As Nvidia’s senior vice president of content and development, he sees the PS4′s specs as outdated, even today.

    “If the PS4 ships in December as Sony indicated, it will only offer about half the performance of a GTX680 GPU (based on GFLOPS and texture), which launched in March 2012, more than a year and a half ago.”

    It only gets worse

    Tamasi also notes that consoles, by definition, are closed platforms and not upgradeable.

    “What you get today in terms of performance is what you’re stuck with five – 10 years down the road. PCs don’t have these problems,” he told TechRadar.

    “They are open and can be upgraded at any time to harness the power of newer GPUs for more performance and to take advantage of newer, modern graphics technologies.”

    The gap between console and PC gaming has become more apparent this console generation, and Tamasi expects more of the same when PS4 and Xbox 720 get here.

    “If history predicts the future, then these next-generation consoles, while being more powerful than the current ones, will very quickly end up more than an order of magnitude behind the PC.”

    http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/consoles/nvidia-compares-ps4-specs-to-a-low-end-cpu-1138051

    #30 2 years ago
  31. Eddie Rodrigues

    @6 Little more experience? Are you fucking dumb? We are talking about DOZENS of differences, the most mainstream reason, the blatant difference in FPS. The tech is widely powerful in NVIDIA, just see CUDA and Kepler, AMDs are flat most of the times, though they do their job.

    @30 I wasn’t certain how bad or good the PS4 tech was compared to PC, thanks for sharing the info, now I am certain I won’t buy it.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. Monk

    “If the PS4 ships in December as Sony indicated, it will only offer about half the performance of a GTX680 GPU (based on GFLOPS and texture), which launched in March 2012, more than a year and a half ago.”

    We don’t need super power GFX cards because it will add at least 300$ to the price of the PS4, and I don’t want that.
    I’m happy with 400$ console that takes huge step from the current generation
    And it will stay for 6 or 7 years without additional upgrade.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. nollie4545

    AMD would undoubtedly have been cheaper, and are hungry for the business, it is no secret they are struggling with their old process, have openly stated no new tech until 2014.

    By contrast, the 6 series NV cards are barely out of the box and they throw titan into the mix.

    Nvidia have no x86 license, nor do they want to over-lap into intels territory, so it is no surprise they don’t do APUs yet, that is intels domain. And the man is totally correct, GPU on die technology has no real place in the enthusiast sector yet.

    The game will well and truly be over when they release Maxwell or the 8 series cards next year.

    As for AMD, their CPUs are still too inefficient, and despite core counts and turbo clocks, offer no advantage against even sandybridge, much less ivybridge. Good job they are significantly cheaper. I wouldn’t hold your breath for the next gen AM3+ chips because from what I have read AMD are looking more toward FM2 as their horse to back.

    As for the pricing of GTX 6 series cards, given the performance of them compared to the 5 series, I’m happy I spent the £450 on my 680 to move up from a 580.

    AMD cards all well and good but all the benchmarks show the 680 ahead.

    Not only that but at least Nvidia come out with fresh drivers more frequently, and you’ll have half the trouble with SLI vs Xfire. Been there and got that T shirt.

    #33 2 years ago
  34. aleph31

    Of course there is much more money to be made on the mobile arena. The problem is, sticking with ARM may not be really wise mid-term, Haswell is coming and it will bring serious improvements to the Atom line, making it probably king of the hill. And even in the case ARM keeps the throne, Samsung / Apple are making their own designs with Imagination or Qualcomm.

    To sum up, I think mobile future for NVidia is far from brilliant, bad move not sticking at least with one console.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. blackdreamhunk

    Crytek: console companies could die off if they “go beyond what we say is next gen”

    Never one to pass up the opportunity for a grand statement, Crytek’s founder and CEO Cevat Yerli has told OXM that it would be “physically and financially impossible” to release a next generation Xbox that exceeds Crytek’s own estimated specifications.

    “We have been saying CryEngine 3 is next-gen ready for years now,” he told us in an interview published in our latest issue, which goes on sale Friday 15th March. “The reason I’m saying that is – and this is before we knew the specs, because three years ago nobody knew – it’s impossible to go too far beyond what we say today is next gen because it would cost too much.”

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    “It would be prohibitively expensive to launch a next-gen console beyond what we say is next gen,” Yerli asserted. “It would potentially be a death knell for at least one company.”

    Crytek has constructed its vaunted CryEngine 3 – which is “three years ahead” of Epic’s Unreal Engine 4, don’t you know – in accordance with these predictions, without much in the way of manufacturer input. “If you take in the cost of making a console, the parts of it, and say, ‘okay, that has to be better than the best PC experience at that time plus two years later’,” Yerli explained.

    “And you want a package – a $200, $300, $400 package. It’s just physically and financially impossible to go higher, so you have to bring it down again, and our guestimates have been quite right.”

    I’ve posted a video of CryEngine 3 in action below, from April last year. Swank, no? At the time, Yerli opined that “this kind of realism will be playing a big focus in the next generation. And higher resolution texturing, like in the film industry, where you have effectively no limits on texture sizes.

    “In the games, you used to have 256 by 256 textures, those limits will go up to…pretty much as much memory as you have in your PC. The new texturing will become a big topic as well.”

    Also in April last year, Crytek’s director of creative development Rasmus Hojengaard told the world that a pre-owned block in next generation consoles would be “absolutely awesome” from a “business perspective”. Kaa-ching, etc.

    Do pick up a copy of issue 97, if you get the chance. Our cover story is a gargantuan preview of Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag, backed by equally mahoosive write-ups of Bungie’s Destiny and The Witcher 3 – all of them, incidentally, games that will appear on the next generation Xbox. Remember – 15th March is the big day.

    Can we tempt you to take out a subscription? Because if you do so before 15th April, we’ll fire over a free copy of Hitman Absolution Professional Edition, which includes an artbook and the Agency Gun Pack DLC.

    http://www.oxm.co.uk/51086/crytek-console-companies-could-die-off-if-they-go-beyond-what-we-say-is-next-gen/

    #35 2 years ago
  36. blackdreamhunk

    Despite the rapid rise of mobile gadgets, Blizzard President Mike Morhaime says he’s still betting on the long-term future of the personal computer.

    That’s how most people still want their video games, he says. Computer gaming continues to be the focus of the Irvine-based company, which released an addition, “StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm,” to its popular real-time strategy franchise this week.
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    Blizzard at a glance

    Company: Blizzard Entertainment, a unit of Activision Blizzard

    Leadership: Mike Morhaime, president and co-founder; Frank Pearce, chief development officer and co-founder; Rob Pardo, chief creative officer

    Revenue: $1.6 billion in 2012

    Stock: ATVI

    Location: Irvine headquarters

    Games: “StarCraft,” “Warcraft” and “Diablo” are Blizzard’s three main franchises.

    Interesting fact: “World of Warcraft” accounted for 89 percent of net revenue in 2010, 90 percent in 2011 and 61 percent in 2012.

    What’s next: After a year’a hiatus BlizzCon is returning to Anaheim on Nov. 8 and 9. Blizzard hosts the conference as a participation event for fans and also details upcoming plans. BlizzCon typically is attended by 20,000 people, some of whom dress up as a variety of characters including space marines and demon hunters

    Source: Blizzard earnings

    “I don’t know if touch is necessarily the big, magic thing, that’s so important to the future,” Morhaime said. “I think keyboards and mice aren’t going anywhere.”

    The 45-year-old president, however, remained tight-lipped about the details of Blizzard’s next big project, the top-secret game known only as “Project Titan” being developed at its Irvine headquarters.

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/games-499897-starcraft-game.html

    #36 2 years ago
  37. blackdreamhunk

    “This business has not been in a state of transition like it is right now since the video game crash of the ’80s,” Bleszinski said. “I really think we’re in a massive state of turmoil. I think Nintendo could possibly be faced with the situation of becoming a company that only makes software moving forward. I think Sony and Microsoft are about to come to major blows. But at the same time, people love playing games on their iPad. The PC is going through a wonderful renaissance right now. I think we’re ready to do digital download games all the time…I just want to see what happens. In regards to the industry, it’s like the Super Smash Bros. of business right now, and I want to see if Peach or Mario wins.”

    If any of the console makers are to emerge victorious from that Super Smash Bros. melee, Bleszinski said they would need to embrace qualities from more open platforms like PCs and tablets while preserving the stability of a closed platform. Enabling developers to update their titles as needed was one such example.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Christopher Jack

    Their Tegra chips are over hyped, they are not nearly as good as Nvidia make it out to be. They just rush it to the market for bragging rights & get beaten a month or two later & I mean severely beaten.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. Gekidami

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/10233-PC-Gamer-Master-Card?utm_source=latest&utm_medium=index_carousel&utm_campaign=all

    #39 2 years ago
  40. Dragon246

    @Gek,
    LOL! The BEST thing I have seen today!

    #40 2 years ago
  41. Gekidami

    The funny thing is that its totally true, Nvidia are known to slap new names on old products to sucker in the dumb PC masses.
    http://semiaccurate.com/2009/08/28/nvidia-renames-2xx-parts-3xx/#.UUVsoByQUj4

    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1016502/nvidia-sticks-names-cards-hopes-notice

    http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26736-more-nvidia-rebrands-coming

    They really are a horribly incompetent and dishonest company… I guess thats why PC fanboys relate to them so much.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. dizzygear

    @33 “Not only that but at least Nvidia come out with fresh drivers more frequently”

    The last time i upgdated from 310.70 it broke Optimus on my laptop, and when they fixed that in the next update, they screwed up something in the game profiles so i could not edit the 3D override setting for some games.

    Sure their tech is impressive but i learned to turn off auto update for nVidia drivers the hard way.

    #42 2 years ago
  43. Hybridpsycho

    nVidia actually has no problem passing this up. Any debate that is going on (I cba to read through all the comments) about which is better is completely useless.

    I enjoy both hardwares.

    However, AMD as a company is in a very poor state right now and I bet they actually fought very hard to get deeper into the console market (because they are, believe it or not) doing well in the PC market.

    @42
    nVidia updates are 99% awesome, not sure how you’ve experienced such fuck ups but through all my years as a PC-Technician AMD have actually had the worse software while rivaling nVidia when it comes to hardware.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. DSB

    It’s kinda hard to feel unloved when you own 50% of the market.

    Personally, my experience using ATI cards has put me off of them for good. It might be a better budget decision, but it’s not an experience I want to repeat.

    @43 They did have one terrible iteration that literally fried cards though.

    #44 2 years ago
  45. blackdreamhunk

    Crytek has been making a lot of comments regarding the next generation consoles, when Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli spoke with the Official Xbox Magazine, he continued to cause a lot of stir. He stated that with the expected price of the console, it might be the last we’ll ever get from at least one company. You can take what he said, and you can agree or disagree, but he does make a good point about the rising cost of systems. You can check out the quote below.

    “It would be prohibitively expensive to launch a next-gen console beyond what we say is next gen. It would potentially be a death knell for at least one company. If you take in the cost of making a console, the parts of it, and say, ‘okay, that has to be better than the best PC experience at that time plus two years later’. And you want a package – a $200, $300, $400 package. It’s just physically and financially impossible to go higher, so you have to bring it down again, and our guesstimates have been quite right.” Hopefully his statements doesn’t come to fruition, it seems like there will always be a market for video game consoles.

    http://www.explosion.com/24935/crytek-doesnt-believe-consoles-will-last-beyond-next-gen/

    #45 2 years ago
  46. blackdreamhunk

    The business development manager at Nordic Games, Reinhard Pollice, had some interesting things to tell us about the PS4 and also about their recently released game Painkiller Hell and Damnation, in a yet to be published interview.

    We asked him what he thought about the next generation and about Sony’s recently revealed console, the PlayStation 4.

    “I like a few functions that were announced but so far I personally cannot see a real benefit from buying that instead of a gaming PC,” Pollice told us.

    “We will monitor further development closely and are also in a stage, where we evaluate certain game concepts for this hardware. Even a great platform sometimes isn’t able to convince a critical mass. A lot of factors are important here. Plus we are not in the position to be under the obligatory first-movers in that sense, so we will be careful for the time being.”

    He also told us why they decided to do a modern remake of Painkiller and Painkiller: Battle Out Of Hell instead of doing a true sequel.

    “We brainstormed a lot here and had ideas looking into a lot of different directions about a new Painkiller game,” he revealed.

    “We ended up concluding that the market is lacking a key element of the original Painkiller, that “old school” element. So we decided that our game should be in the spirit of old school shooter games. We also noticed especially that console gamers never really had a chance to get into Painkiller, which is why we decided to take that route.”

    People who are too invested in the PC platform may not find the PS4 that interesting considering what Nvidia had to say about its specs, but ultimately it all depends on games. More details on the PS4 will be revealed at E3.

    http://gamingbolt.com/no-real-benefit-in-buying-ps4-over-gaming-pc-nordic-games-bm

    #46 2 years ago
  47. blackdreamhunk

    ‘After These Next Consoles, I Don’t Think There’ll Be Any More’

    QUOTE | “PC is not just another platform … it will be more and more important in terms of maximizing the game’s potential.”—Marek Tyminski, CEO of City Interactive, talking about his studio’s plans for development following Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2.

    http://kotaku.com/5990901/this-week-in-the-business-after-these-next-consoles-i-dont-think-therell-be-any-more

    #47 2 years ago
  48. Max Payne

    Do you really people think everything will be in cloud ? That developers will have money and resources to rent something like Nvidia grid and that everything will be so smooth ? And how much computers will needed to run 20+ millions people for games like GTA ,BF, CoD, Fifa ?

    #48 2 years ago
  49. nollie4545

    Cloud computing will ultimately win. They said it couldn’t be done when it came to server technology, but there are billions of them chugging away right now running the web for us and they said that couldn’t be done. We won’t be there for a while yet but ultimately you’ll be buying nothing more than a controller and a subscription one day to play games down a pipe.

    As for Cryteks comments, he is obviously taking about Nintendo, and it is obvious that from cost implications alone there is no way the next gen consoles are going to be at the current ‘enthusiast’ PC level. It just won’t happen. If AMD really did dish up the goods for a package which gave console gamers a better gaming experience for $400 than found by the people who had just spunked several hundred bucks on the latest pile driver and 7970 card, there would be a serious backlash. I mean what would be the point in investing in AMDs latest graphics cards if a console delivered more punch for less cash?

    #49 2 years ago

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