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PS4 will not blocked used games, Yoshida confirms

Thursday, 21st February 2013 06:17 GMT By Brenna Hillier

After weeks of speculation the PlayStation 4 has been revealed, and although most of the rumours were true there was one very important omission.

“Used games can play on PS4,”Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told Eurogamer.

“That’s the general expectation by consumers. They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that’s my expectation,” he added.

Although the used-games-block has been touted for Sony several times, especially in the wake of an NFC patent, it’s really been persistent over on Microsoft’s side. The rumours hold so much sway that used game mogul GameStop keeps suffering share panic whenever they pop up again.

It’s probably safe to say that now that Sony’s definitely not blocking used games, for Microsoft to do so would be a grievous error.

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23 Comments

  1. Dragon246

    While I don’t give a damn to this, some do and Sony has just earned their goodwill.
    Sony is ticking all the boxes now.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. theevilaires

    Good job SONY you’re forcing Microsoft hand every minute, day by day now. Soon they’ll have to unveil something the pressure will get too hot not to

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Telepathic.Geometry

    I don’t think that they will be blocking it, but for people who care about that a lot, beware. The wording was very wishy washy, and they could easily reverse their position if they wanted to.

    Wired has an interesting piece on all of Sony’s broken promises from the PS3 era… Those things were worded even more strongly than this.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. mkotechno

    Finally the end of this bullshit rumour.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Phoenixblight

    @3

    They aren’t going to do it. It would destroy the system if MS and SOny were doing at the same time that would be one thing but the negatives would still outweigh the positive.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Phoenix: Yeah, I agree man. All I’m saying is that Sony has been known to do complete U-turns on very strongly worded promises before (eg Backwards Compatibility is very important to us, we must have it… Shortly after, it was cut out of the machine), and this statement was very VERY weakly made.

    In other words, there’s no reason to believe it other than that it’s sensible…

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Phoenixblight

    @6

    Well they were for Backwards compatibility until they found out it hurt their bottom line. Only way used games would hurt their bottom line is if all of the developers went on strike unless SOny put in the anti-used system.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Zeus

    Great news! This is a dealbreaker for me, so now it looks like I’ll get a PS4 someday.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. salarta

    As long as this remains true, it looks like I’ll very likely buy a PS4 when it launches. I’m hoping it remains true, because there are way too many interests and companies/professions that rely on used games being playable on consoles. That’s not even just Gamestop, which for some ridiculous reason I’ve seen several people act like Gamestop and their approach to the used games market justifies such action. There are a lot more companies such as rental stores, and a lot more interests such as game collectors or even simply wanting to play a game again a decade later, that rely on used games working on systems.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. dizzygear

    Ok thats nice. Now what about region locks and in that regard gaikai? Will i be able to play my japanese copy of Ex Troopers on a PAL PS4 through gaikai for example?

    #10 2 years ago
  11. pleasant_cabbage

    Imo, it’s not that clear cut yet.
    He noticeably faffed about when asked the question then sought PR advice on how to answer:

    So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, I asked, you’re not going to stop them reselling it?

    “Aaaah,” was Yoshida’s initial answer, but seemingly only because he’d forgotten his line. “So what was our official answer to our internal question?” he asked his Japanese PR advisor. The advisor stepped in but didn’t seem to answer clearly, at least to my ears. Yoshida then took control again firmly:

    “So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?”

    Still doesn’t preclude them implementing an activation code strategy, of courses here’s hoping they don’t :)

    #11 2 years ago
  12. JB

    If true, I can allow meself to get a little excited about at least one of the new consoles, but there´s still many, many ways they can screw the consumers and their rights, so let`s wait and see what happens at the end of the year.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Gheritt White

    @12: Having your console play used or second-hand games is not a consumer “right”, you overly-entitled cunt.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Samoan Spider

    @13 Spot on apart from the abuse bit. Even the US and its much lauded 1st sale doctrine is untouched because even if the worst came true, you could always buy a used disc but a license for the product isn’t included. But there’s no denying that the used market helped drive those console sales last gen. Assuming this guys fishy language is taken at face value, this is a good thing for the industry despite the perceived losses.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. JB

    @13 The only overly-entitled cunts are the games industry and it`s forum mouthpieces who wants to control the price, distribution and availability of digital products.

    There`s nothing overly-entitled about selling a game after you`re done with it, made a wrong purchase or for whatever other reason you might be dissatisfied with it for.

    Nor is there anything wrong with buying a used product, it happens all the time and is perfectly acceptable.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Gheritt White

    @15: It’s over entitled to dictate how somebody should or shouldn’t make their product. The only *right* you have is to vote with your wallet: if you don’t like it, don’t buy it – nobody is forcing you to.

    Is locking out second hand sales a good idea? Of course it isn’t.

    Is it there an unassailable right for the consumer to be able to demand that that a luxury goods producer make their product in one particular way or another? Absolutely not.

    And the abuse bit is for effect. You’re a cunt, I’m a cunt… we’re all cunts. I could have said “you monster” (in fact, that would have probably been better). I apologise for my sloppy joke-telling, I’m kinda distracted today.

    EDIT: Also, nobody is talking about digital products – not even you. You’re talking about physical products – discs and consoles. There is no second hand market for digital sales; I couldn’t sell/give my Diablo 3 key to a friend after I’d finished with it, for example.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Fin

    @16

    Yer, people jump up and down a lot about console games, but you’ve never been able to resell PC, Steam, iOS or Android games.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. salarta

    @13: Oh boy, let’s be overly abusive toward people and throw the word “entitled” around like it’s in style! The more I see people use the word “entitled,” the less I can take them seriously. Last time I saw the word “entitled” used, some Capcom and Ninja Theory fanboys were complaining that Devil May Cry fans were acting “entitled” for daring to not buy a game they didn’t want to play, DmC.

    As to the issue of whether or not used games is a “right,” legally it may not be so, but something being a law does not make it right. If we acted like everything the legal system set down was indisputably the right way to go about things, slavery would still be legal.

    The issue is mostly tied to how we define what a game is. Most people, when the game is in a physical format, would like to keep it treated the exact same way as other physical objects; you bought a chair, you can sell that chair to someone else and they can use it. Most COMPANIES behind games, films, etc want to define the physical disc they come on in the same category as a logo, brand or IP, for the simple reason that they can bilk more money out of consumers by denying them the opportunity to pass the disc along for other people to enjoy. While the average consumer is fair-minded and is willing to legally purchase content, the average company wants to find any excuse they can to make more people pay more for less.

    Quite honestly, watching some of the crap video game publishers try to get away with, throwing out half-done games and lazy DLC that they charge $5-15 for, and film distributors re-releasing the exact same film in multiple different packages, has me thinking the entertainment industry may be a huge part of why the economy is doing so poorly. Money that people COULD spend on physical goods that last longer and can be freely re-used and re-sold, or that could go to needed services like hospitals and child care, is instead going toward buying weapon skins for $45 so that CEOs can buy bigger mansions and fancier cars.

    And while something like an actual chair in everyday life can be re-sold with ease and fixed if damaged, discs will only work so long as the technology that supports them remains, while things like virtual objects in an online game are gone as soon as the company shuts down the servers.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Gheritt White

    TL;DR.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. salarta

    @19: Ignore your comments from now on? Okay, will do. :D

    #20 2 years ago
  21. SplatteredHouse

    Sony’s Shuhei “that’s my expectation” Yoshida had the following to say to Engadget about this – http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/yoshida-used-games-caveat/

    “That’s my expectation, that PS4 games will work on [the] hardware. That’s my expectation,” he told us in an interview this morning. When we pushed to clarify what he meant, Yoshida stuttered. “Ummm … yeah. We have to really name our system services to explain more about it,” he added.

    They speculate that this suggests that there may be a yet unrevealed catch to the playing of used games, on PS4.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. SplatteredHouse

    Statement issued to Game Informer by Sony: “We are just now announcing the basic vision and strategy of PS4 and will have more information to share regarding used games later this year. But PlayStation has a long history of keeping its gamers happy and we won’t make decisions that damage our relationship with them.” http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/think-the-ps4-wil-be-best-friends-with-used-games-not-so-fast

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Kacurikaci

    i found great webisite to play unblocked flash games at school.

    #23 2 years ago

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