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PS4: current-gen PSN purchases & saves won’t carry over

Thursday, 21 February 2013 15:33 GMT By Dave Cook

PS4 may be getting backwards compatibility in the form of streaming service Gaikai, but see all of your current PSN purchases and game saves? You can kiss all of those goodbye in the next generation.

Speaking with Engadget, SCEE boss Shuhei Yoshida said that PS3 discs will not be compatible with PS4, but that it would consider transferring some games over, as long as they aren’t too demanding in the emulation department, due to the PS3 and PS4 architectures being quite different. Current-gen PSN games will not make the transition either.

He added that Sony would consider some PSN and PS3 titles, and make them playable “in some form”, suggesting that cloud based, server side catalogues of older titles would be possible, but that was part of the company’s long-term strategy.

That’s it, it’s there in black and white. Now tell us what you think below.

We’ve got every shred of information, screen and trailer from the PS4 announcement right here.

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121 Comments

  1. Joe Anderson

    This was expected so I’m not too fussed. We already knew PS3 games wouldn’t carry over. Sony will make up for this somehow, I’m sure of that.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Joe Musashi

    So long as my purchases still work on the machine I bought them for, then I don’t see what the big deal is.

    JM

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Erthazus

    That’s again what i hate about consoles. With each generation Sony/MS and Nintendo asks you tu buy games again.

    I hope that Steambox will do everything right. When i purchase my PC or any device that has Steam, I don’t buy games twice and my saves are always in the cloud.

    It will be interesting to see if Steambox will sell us games twice.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. SlayerGT

    Expected. I don’t sell my good hardware anyways. Would have been possible thou if there were more fans of Cell architecture right? If we were looking at a PS4 with 6 Cells in it..it probly would have been real easy.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. DSB

    Yeah I don’t see the big fuss, that was expected.

    But arguably it would be kinda bitter to pay for the same game a second time on the PS4. Having bought the original should at least earn you a discount, no?

    #5 2 years ago
  6. CyberMarco

    Hopefully this is only for full-retail PSN games,like Infamous, Uncharted etc. and not for digital titles like Journey, Limbo and the like.

    Anyhow, not really bothered as I haven’t bought any PSN title and I don’t plan to either, maybe some cross-buy games that work on the Vita. I don’t trust digital distribution on closed formats, except for PC/Steam.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Bomba Luigi

    Can be a Pain in the Ass when you Buy something like a new Dragon Age and you cant import save Games because of the Console. There are Games out there where that is a really important Thing.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Beta

    Completely expected.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Telepathic.Geometry

    I think I’m out… I’ll keep playing PS3 for another year or two, and then I’ll get a Steambox.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. RazorBladeJam

    Howl! Rage! Bloodshed… Now I’ve got to keep my PS3!

    What will I trade in now? I suppose I could get a cheap WiiU… :-P

    #10 2 years ago
  11. viralshag

    So does this include indie games, movies, classic PS1 games etc? Anything you have bought from PSN?

    If so, I don’t see why people shouldn’t be mad about it.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Samoan Spider

    Completely expected because cell programmed games aren’t compatible without a massive rewrite, but now is this a point where MS won’t stumble because they’re already on x86 architecture and imitating a 360 should be easier for their new device. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Sowhat

    This is nothing more than a lame journalistic attempt to incite the masses. The troll face picture and the “get angry now” in the title serve nothing to this non-news article.

    Nintendo is doing something similar to this by charging $0.50 – $1.00 to redownload games you already own for the Wii U. Microsoft, when they finally announce their next generation hardware, will probably make you have to dance a specific dance with the Kinect to get the games you’ve gotten from them again – or – you’ll have to be an Xbox Gold member.

    I really don’t understand why the pitchforks and torches come out for anything Sony does. Having to repurchase was completely expected because the software is probably completely new. Even if it’s not so what? Do you really need to Final Fantasy 7 on yet another console? If this is your first console (the PS4) then it doesn’t matter in the least. But if you have a PS3 then you can get FF7 and hook that up for when you want to play it. These consoles are small and are easily portable.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. DSB

    @13 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony

    I’m pretty sure you need that.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. MadFingerz

    Not angry at all, at least it’s an excuse to still have the PS3 around, would hate to part with it :p

    Well I’m not expecting to get it exactly on launch so by the time I do get it I’ll be so over with everything I got from PSN that I just won’t care.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Beta

    I have a working PS3 and it isn’t going anywhere for a good while yet. Why would I care if they won’t carry over to my PS4..?

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Lord Gremlin

    I mostly buy Vita and PSP stuff nowadays… It will just stay on my vita.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. diego-rbb-93

    WHAT I EXPECT FROM SONY…

    Ps Cloud launch on PS3. Games bought on PSN compatible at the moment with Ps Cloud.

    Ps Cloud inside PS4. At least, you are not losing your stuff for PS gaming on PS4.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Dave Cook

    @13 “This is nothing more than a lame journalistic attempt to incite the masses.”

    No, it’s not. I think it’s pissing in the face of consumers.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Gadzooks!

    #13

    The WiiU is 100% flawless backward compatible, no payment required.

    You can optionally pay to redownload games with gamepad-only support.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Beta

    Glad to see the troll face picture is gone anyway.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Dave Cook

    @21 Yeah I was trying to make a point about sony letting down its customers, but it wasn’t the best way of doing so.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. YoungZer0

    Oh come on! You can’t tell me there isn’t a simple solution to the problem. That’s just fucking with the consumer and nothing more.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Beta

    @22 That’s fair enough, it’s a bit annoying that they won’t carry over and I can understand why some may be angry.

    But your purchases aren’t going anywhere, they’re still on your PS3/PSP/Vita.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. OlderGamer

    “So does this include indie games, movies, classic PS1 games etc? Anything you have bought from PSN?

    If so, I don’t see why people shouldn’t be mad about it.”

    +100

    #25 2 years ago
  26. RazorBladeJam

    @23, The simple solution is to keep your PS3.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Dark

    Keep your ps3 then you are gauranted to be able to play your games

    Problem solved.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. laughing-gravy

    @ #19 Yes it is! Did M$oft threaten to pull the nice big ad contract from you unless you said something bad about Sony’s new system? And the same goes for the ‘ I’m still on the fence article’, troll.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. G1GAHURTZ

    No biggie.

    Who buys a £400 console to play last gen games?

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Peetry

    Yawn, non-issue

    #30 2 years ago
  31. OlderGamer

    All you “keep your PS3″ guys are being foolish. What it means is that at some point in the PS4 lifecycle support for those purchased games will be dropped.

    MS did the same BS thing when transitioning from XB to XB360.

    Gad is right, I can use all of my Wii purchases on my WiiU. It even transfered my game saves.

    And Erth is right, I can use my old PC games on my new PC. And when I buy a new and different PC, guess what I can still use them.

    This is a bit BS. I was thinking of redoing my PSN+ sub. I don’t think I will at this point. Really takes a lot of wind out of my sales, when thinking about PS products.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. G1GAHURTZ

    @28:

    Stop being so paranoid.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Dave Cook

    To everyone saying ‘just keep your PS3′. You shouldn’t have to. You’ve paid for your content, and shouldn’t be asked to pay for it again if you make the switch. Some of you will only be able to afford PS4 by trading in your PS3. Why should you be punished for that?

    I seriously think this is a shit move on their part.

    #33 2 years ago
  34. Kalain

    I thought it would be obvious that they wouldn’t carry over due to the different architecture of the PS4 to the PS3.

    No doubt they’ll re-do the PS3 games and tag them with UHD at the end, like they have done with the remakes this gen, just so you can play them on your PS4.

    Anything to bring in revenue from people who will buy the same game over and over again on the new platforms is always in their plans. Its nasty and really does milk the consumers, but you will get people who will be WoW’ed easily and buy the ‘New, updated’ version.

    There is a market for it and Sony will probably go for it…

    #34 2 years ago
  35. DSB

    Fanboy hysteria is a hell of a drug.

    @33 Nobody’s pulled off backwards compatability yet though. They all said they would going into this generation, but lo and behold, they didn’t.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. laughing-gravy

    @#32 Not paranoid this is how M$oft work. Check out some of the articles on semiaccurate. Sites like gamespot etc all took money from them last gen to do exactly that. And where exactly did all the patent trolling come from? It only started when M$oft entered the console business.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Fin

    I don’t understand the uproar.

    They’re not going to release the same games on next-gen PSN, the architecture’s completely different. You bought them on PS3, you can play them on PS3. It’s no different to the lack of physical back-compat.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Gadzooks!

    #35

    Nintendo did flawless BC.

    MS did partial BC (I still play xbox1 games weekly).

    Sony did BC for a while.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. OlderGamer

    It is console thinking. And it is stuck in the past. There is zero reason to not build your platform going forward. Consumers should be able to build a digital profile/account of purchased content and have access to that content across different devices and yes different generational jumps.

    The game saves, to me, are not a big deal. But the purchased content is huge. Now I wonder what MS will do? I had assumed(esp after buying a WiiU, and seeing Nintendo do it) that content already purchased will travel with you.

    #39 2 years ago
  40. Phoenixblight

    @33

    “You shouldn’t have to. You’ve paid for your content” Are you new to this gen? That is all that it has been because BC was either removed or it was totally borked.

    The PS4 is using completely different architecture so Sony would have to find a way of emulating a PS3 to support the purchases made previously on the PS4 or find a way to port the catalog on to the PS4 both of which would be costly. I am fine with this as I plan on keeping my Ps3 is it really that hard to keep the system hooked up or to hook it up?

    “I can use my old PC games on my new PC”

    Not necessarily there are plenty of games that won’t play because of the transition from 98 to XP.

    #40 2 years ago
  41. Fin

    @39

    Not across generational jumps if the architecture changes. You can’t use software designed for PowerPC Macs on current Intel Macs.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. DSB

    @38 I actually owned a Wii, and it was not flawless.

    You needed a gamecube controller and a memory card to make it work. That’s not exactly thought through.

    Why the hell couldn’t you just use a proprietary Wii gamepad and the HD?

    Keywords being “for a while”, “partial”.

    #42 2 years ago
  43. Samoan Spider

    @36 Without checking the website, ‘semiaccurate’ doesn’t sound like the type of name a trusted source should use. I know, book by its cover and all that but just my observation.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. Dragon246

    Now, lets be rational here. If this applies to ps1 downloads (which it will not probably), then its shit. But ps2 and ps3 ARE VERY HARD to emulate. Sorry if you expected otherwise, then you are damn wrong.

    @Dave,
    Is it really pissing on the consumers? When was it announced that ps4 will play ps3 games? Maybe you were expecting too much. Its almost sure 720 will do the same.

    Keep the ps3 then. Many people will do that, unless some stupid argument that “I have space for only one box” comes up.
    First world couch potatoes.
    And people want cheaper consoles……

    #44 2 years ago
  45. Gadzooks!

    #36

    You are an idiot. Go away.

    #45 2 years ago
  46. Hybridpsycho

    @3 That’s again what I hate about Erth, he always finds random things to whine about.

    No one is expecting you to buy the game again, and how is that with every new console? I’m pretty sure the PS3 is the only console they’ve actually done alot of “lets put this old game up here as well”.

    You’ve bought the game on your PS3 and you can keep playing it on your PS3. No one at all is forcing you to buy the game again for the next console. What they do is actually put the effort into making some games (mostly our favs) available on the new console as well(which actually costs them money, backwards compatibility sucks because it limits the hardware unless you remake the games for the newer console) as a convenience for those who’d like to spend the money not to have two or three consoles in the living room.

    @31 Playing old PC games on a new PC is quite the hassle mostly and not at all as easy as you make it sound. Also it’s not at all the same thing to keep playing the games on a PC.

    Again, YOU CAN STILL PLAY YOUR GAMES ON YOUR PS3.

    Overall any type of backwards compatibility is bullshit because it limits the new hardware more than most of you people know.

    Consoles has always been like this and until we’ve come to a point where no real upgrades are needed (hardware or software) it will most likely continue to be this way.

    HOW WILL I SURVIVE THIS?!?!?!

    I’ll just put my PS3 up next to my PS4 and then I can swap between them in no time if I ever want to play the PS3 games again.

    People are such bloody crybabies.

    #46 2 years ago
  47. DrDamn

    It depends on how any subsequent PS3 support through Gaikai is handled. PS4 clearly doesn’t support b/c with PS3 for technical reasons – unless there is something they aren’t telling us yet. Actual support is still a long term vision.

    “SCE is exploring unique opportunities enabled by cloud technology with the long-term vision of making PlayStation libraries including an incredible catalog of more than 3000 PS3 titles that is unmatched in the industry, mostly ubiquitous on PS4.”

    If PS3/PS2/PSOne titles are never supported (PSN, Retail, Indie, PSOne etc) then this is expected. Unfortunate but expected. If they add in support for some PS3 titles through Gaikai then they shouldn’t charge you again for download titles you already paid for. Though they may charge you for the Gaikai service in some way.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. RazorBladeJam

    @Dave, My PS3 PSN stuff won’t cross over? Oh noes Sony Suck!!

    Have you asked Sony if you can redownload it for free from your PS4 PSN?

    Has anyone?

    #48 2 years ago
  49. Fin

    Rereading it, I think this entire thing has been taken out of context.

    Will PSN games designed to run on PS3 run on PS4? No.
    If Sony releases a PS1 emulator for PS4, will you have to rebuy PS1 games from PSN? No, that’s just ridiculous.

    #49 2 years ago
  50. Dave Cook

    @40 sure, the architecture is different, but why not make the games streamable via Gaikai at no charge if you previously bought a license? Gaikai uses their native tech, not yours. It is absolutely possible.

    If I’m understanding this correctly, most of you aren’t bothered by this?

    It sets a potential, worrying precedent for what will happen once everything goes digital, where publishers can hold you to ransom for whatever price they want because they lock down the content.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. Eregol

    @Dave Cook
    To be honest, we ask for our consoles to be cheap, but we ask for so much from them nowadays that it’s impossible for them to be so. Cuts need to be made.
    As such, backwards compatibility with disc and digital based releases isn’t really going to be feasible considering the wildly different architectures of the machines.

    This is probably another reason why Sony got Gaikai. Will put their back catalogue on the service and allow you to stream it to your PS4 as part of your monthly subscription.
    No real biggy there. At least it’s not a second hand game blocker.

    EDIT: Also, don’t forget, Nintendo started the precendent with WiiU. I also don’t recall howl’s of derision when it was annoucned NES games wouldn’t work on the shiny new SNES.

    #51 2 years ago
  52. Beta

    @46 +100

    #52 2 years ago
  53. laughing-gravy

    @#33 No your trolling. You really stuck to M$ofts script haven’t you?

    #53 2 years ago
  54. Fin

    @50

    Like I said, I think you’ve read far too much into it. From the article itself – “just confirmed to us that current-generation PSN titles won’t transfer across to the PlayStation 4.”

    To me, that sounds like PSN games (Journey, Unfinished Swan, Dead Nation, etc) won’t transfer over.

    #54 2 years ago
  55. Dave Cook

    @51 “At least it’s not a second hand game blocker.”

    Now that IS something we should all be thankful for. I wonder if it was a consideration at Sony some point down the line.

    #55 2 years ago
  56. Bill_E_Talent

    Well, this is unsurprising.

    #56 2 years ago
  57. Joe Musashi

    “You’ve paid for your content, and shouldn’t be asked to pay for it again”

    You’re not being asked to. It will continue to work for the system you bought it for.

    But there’s no obligation for on the part of someone who makes content today that says it will work on non-existent hardware that will come out in 8 years time. Or, if it doesn’t, to invest time and money making that change for absolutely no renumeration. And to spin this misconception as some sort of ‘right’ to which consumers should be upset about shows a huge lack of understanding of the topic (at best) or sensationlist straw-clutching (at worst).

    29 makes a good point also.

    JM

    #57 2 years ago
  58. Dave Cook

    @52 are you mental?

    I own and enjoy both the PS3 and Xbox 360. They’re both brilliant.

    #58 2 years ago
  59. SlayerGT

    I’ve bought vinyl records, cassettes, cds, and digital copies of the same music. VHS, DVDs, Blurays, and digital copies of the same movies. This gamer entitlement shit makes me sick.

    #59 2 years ago
  60. DSB

    @55 That’s already happened Dave, the point of a closed system is to monetize it. You’re already being nickle and dimed for basic online services that are free on any other device, and you’re overpaying for digital downloads due to the lack of competition.

    What you have is essentially this.

    That battle has already been waged and lost. Some people look to the Steambox to shake things up, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. G1GAHURTZ

    @Dave:

    Pay for what again? Why are people going to buy the same, last gen, games?

    If they trade in their PS3, I’d have thought that they could also trade their games in.

    I’ve never personally spent more than a few hours playing a last gen game on a current gen console. The one that I did the most was probably OoT on Gamecube, but even then I didn’t finish it.

    I disagree with you on this one.

    You also have to look at it from Sony’s perspective. They’ve gone with a well known architecture (x86) to try and make it easier for developers to make better games.

    The PS3 struggled initially, because it took people so long to learn how to code for it efficiently.

    The new and old architecture are incompatible, so it’s a bit unreasonable to expect Sony to put themselves in a difficult situation just so that a few people can still play old games for a year or two.

    Actually, I’d say that Sony are thinking of gamers with this move. They don’t want to have the sluggish ports any more. They want to make it easier for devs to make better games for gamers.

    #61 2 years ago
  62. Fin

    The original story does not mention the word purchases. It says “PSN titles”, not purchases.
    I think this is Joystiq’s error.

    #62 2 years ago
  63. orakaa

    Wow, wow, wow !!!

    Let’s not get too excited on this. In the ENDGADGET article, Yoshida says:
    “Because the architecture of the Power-PC-based PS3 and x86-based PlayStation 4 are so different, Sony WILL ONLY BRING ACROSS GAMES that don’t guzzle the latest console’s power in emulation”

    So IT SEEMS PSN GAMES WILL BE BROUGHT ACROSS! The ones concerned (not transferred) are obviously the PS3 games based on CELL processors, but apparently not PSN games like Flower, etc.

    So basically it just says what we already knew: PS3 games won’t be compatible with PS4, except via Cloud gaming

    #63 2 years ago
  64. DrDamn

    @OG
    “There is zero reason to not build your platform going forward.”

    Well there are some reasons. PS3 was a poor technical design – so do you stick with it for compatibilities sake or do you move forward with a better design? Sony have gone for the latter. It was a situation they helped fashion though, so they do deserve some flak for it.

    Nintendo with the Wii-U have managed it but at the same time they have hamstrung their CPU to an extent in the past. Swings and roundabouts.

    #64 2 years ago
  65. Dave Cook

    @59 I don’t think it’s entitlement to be fair mate, it’s because the digital frameworks are in place now that studios could just whack our previous digital purchases over to other platforms.

    But you’re right in saying that music and film have been doing this for ages too. it could just be that gaming is still in its infancy and folk are yet to adjust. HD repacks only just started getting big two years ago. It’s a new step.

    #65 2 years ago
  66. Gheritt White

    Dave, this is nothing new. When I bought a CD player, I had to re-buy all my tapes and LPs. BUT… those old formats still worked on my tape deck and record player!

    Same goes wiith content for X360s and PS3s – we bought content for those systems, not their descendants.

    I remember when Apple switched from PowerPC to Intel – I new that all my old programs wouldn’t work on new Macs… but they’d still work just fine on the Mac I currently owned.

    If you want to future-proof your media, switch to PC and Linux and put up with the hassle involved.

    #66 2 years ago
  67. laughing-gravy

    @#43 The name semi comes from semi conductor and I don’t have to explain accurate. It’s a site aimed at the semi conductor industry and deals with the business end of things to. And they’ve been right about plenty of other things in the past too.

    #67 2 years ago
  68. Dave Cook

    @61 “If they trade in their PS3, I’d have thought that they could also trade their games in.”

    I think the point has been lost here a little man. It’s more that the Gaikai tech does allow for past game purchases to be transferred from PS3 to PS4, as it streams from their native tech, not the PS4s. That’s how Gaikai works. So all of this talk about the architecture changing can be skirted around if they really wanted it to be.

    And yes I 100% understand and agree that making PS4 easier to develop on is a wise step. PS3 was a nightmare in its early days. That’s why Square made Crystal Tools, to make it easier to code for.

    #68 2 years ago
  69. Fin

    @66

    PowerPC apps did work on Intel Macs for two (three maybe?) OS versions – there was software emulation (Rosetta). It’s gone now though.

    #69 2 years ago
  70. Gheritt White

    @69: Good point, totally forgotten about that. I think I just ended up getting anew Mac so I could enjoy a new OS version and the point became moot.

    #70 2 years ago
  71. Dragon246

    Just wait a minute, so people like to buy ps4 to play ps3 games?
    Its just not possible, is it that difficult to understand?

    Now, if there was no BC, how were you supposed to play the old content? Its just ridiculous. Sorry people, this was bound to happen. And nothing to get angry about. This obviously doesn’t rule out emulation now.

    @Dave,
    You brought Streets Of Rage 12 times too right? Isn’t this the same thing?
    And streaming isn’t free. I think you know that.

    #71 2 years ago
  72. DrDamn

    @62
    That is a very good point.

    #72 2 years ago
  73. Beta

    @58 I assume you didn’t mean to ask Me (52) if I’m mental? :P

    #73 2 years ago
  74. Gheritt White

    @73: Are you MENTAL?!?!?!?!?

    #74 2 years ago
  75. theevilaires

    Oh great Older Gamer a well know poster of VG24/7 who openly admits in 90% of his post he doesn’t even use his PS3 or care for PlayStation that much is so passionate about this news…..LMFAO

    Truth is it is a let down and I am disappointed in SONY for this. What is the cloud game saves for? Why not take all this time and make software emulation and use it in the PS4 or find a Gaikai work around.

    Then on the other hand I’m really not that upset because my PS3′s aren’t going anywhere. I have the original 20GB and 60GB with full 3 gen backward compatibility. They are used for gaming and media apps like netflix and that won’t change anytime soon. I can’t see SONY shutting off the PS3 from PSN anytime soon like Microsoft did with the original XBOX.

    On the brighter side of things. This box has just been confirmed to be an all out PS4/media streaming box (Gaikai,Netflix,Hulu,etc) It should cost $299 at launch.

    #75 2 years ago
  76. Beta

    @74 Yes yes I am :)

    #76 2 years ago
  77. laughing-gravy

    @#45 Truth hurt? You’re the blind idiot! And I won’t go away.

    #77 2 years ago
  78. OlderGamer

    Doc, use Gaikai. The how it works is more of Sonys issue them it should be the consumers. People expect more today. Consoles may well be closed hardware and all of that. But they are competing in a bigger more open world. The thinking behind consoles is just outdated.

    #78 2 years ago
  79. SlayerGT

    @65 I understand it seems easy on the outside. Its digital. But some work would need to be done to get PSN games designed for PS3 working on different hardware. I would expect to pay for that work. And I’m not even talking about licensing. That’s a different issue all together.

    #79 2 years ago
  80. Dave Cook

    @71 not really as I wasn’t forced to buy it again. This is forcing you if you want to get PS4 but can’t afford it without trading your PS3. This is my point basically. I’m just shit at explaining things sometimes.

    #80 2 years ago
  81. Fin

    Dave I think this article is factually inaccurate, which I’ve said twice now. Check the Engadget source.

    #81 2 years ago
  82. 0ldsnake1

    “This is due to the architecture between PS3 and PS4 being so different. ”

    same old bullshit !

    #82 2 years ago
  83. Kuwabara

    well i just hope when they announce cloud gaming, that for those who have already purchased ps3 games, you enter a code of proof to get a copy of the game, without having to pay for it again.

    #83 2 years ago
  84. OlderGamer

    It is the cusp of a new generation Tea. I am weighing my options. Digital content is a HUGE deal for me. I wrote several posts on it awhile back. I feel the same way about it across all platforms.

    Stop making everything a Sony vs issue.

    If MS do the same thing, I will be equaly as put off on suporting them.

    #84 2 years ago
  85. G1GAHURTZ

    @dave:

    So wait, are you saying that you can insert a PS3 game into a PS4, and that the game data would be sent to GAIKAI, which would then stream it to your console?

    How do you know all this?

    If that’s not what your saying, then how is Sony going to know who owns what games?

    #85 2 years ago
  86. Eregol

    What is surprising here is how many people are actually ok with it.
    I know I am.
    I just have a feeling that Sony are actually going to get this right. The thing is though. What Yoshida-san actually said was that they’d try and make digital purchases playable in some form. As detailed here:
    http://www.edge-online.com/news/psn-purchases-wont-transfer-to-ps4/

    #86 2 years ago
  87. DrDamn

    @78
    Yes that’s what they plan to do, but they haven’t actually said your *purchases* won’t carry over when they do this, they’ve said PSN titles won’t carry over to PS4 that’s all.

    #87 2 years ago
  88. theevilaires

    So SlayerGT you’re telling us you bought the Star Wars collection many times over on all those different formats ;)

    Not me. I have one format. Its called internet :D

    #88 2 years ago
  89. SlayerGT

    Digital content sucks when the avenue for accessing or has been shut down. I learned this years ago in relation to consoles with the original Xbox.

    #89 2 years ago
  90. salarta

    “Now tell us about how angry this makes you below.”

    GRR THIS MAKES ME ANGRY. SMASH! SMASH!

    At first this actually did seem like a big problem, but then I reconsidered that PS1 and PS2 games didn’t have their saves transferred to the PS3 either and nobody complained about that. It’s a shame that we lost that functionality too, it was cool to be able to play PS1 games on the PS2 complete with the old saves.

    I think one thing Sony needs to make absolutely sure they keep intact is transferring over trophies. I don’t think it would be a problem for me because I don’t play games just to get trophies, but I know there are a lot of people that do, and they would be angry to find out their years of getting trophies won’t mean anything with each new generation.

    EDIT: Though PSN titles not transferring as well is a bit questionable. At least when it’s on a physical disc, you might be able to get the hardware and still play it offline even when the servers go down. If it’s something you can only get through the PSN store of the PS3, then the servers need to stay up for you to be able to re-download it in the future.

    #90 2 years ago
  91. Eregol

    @82
    What? Do you think the PS3 and 4 have the same architecture? Get your head out of your arse lad.

    #91 2 years ago
  92. Dave Cook

    @85 that’s not what I said at all.

    The idea of Gaikai is that you stream digital content on their tech, suing their servers. Like, say I had the lowest spec PC ever, I could stream Crysis at full spec on their rigs.

    I know this (as in the Crysis PC example) because I’ve spoken with Dave Perry twice in person about it.

    But no, what you said about PS3 streaming a second ago, that’s not what i said at all. Sorry if I confused the message a bit.

    On how they will know, the licenses are tethered to your PSN ID. They track your purchases.

    #92 2 years ago
  93. Dragon246

    @Dave,
    People don’t care about BC except die-hard gamers. Fact. Otherwise ps3 wouldn’t have been selling this well past few years.
    There is no solution around this. Gaikai thing also requires additional resources. You wouldnt really think they would let you use servers just for free because you brought something for 5$ 5 years ago now do you?

    I think people should get over this. If not, pc is always waiting. Don’t buy ps4 then. Not that it would affect sales though, ps3 just proves that.

    #93 2 years ago
  94. theevilaires

    Older Gamer I’m not saying your ideals are wrong I agree with them. But come on the second something sounds negative to the consumer from a SONY stand point you’re in the comment section heated about a console you rarely even use on a yearly bases. You’ve probably got like 3 trophies :D

    I just find it funny that you don’t care for the console but quick to go see…I told you so…this is why I don’t invest my time in SONY products.

    #94 2 years ago
  95. Dave Cook

    @Fin alright dude jesus christ, I’m on it :P

    A little busy here.

    #95 2 years ago
  96. Dave Cook

    @90 “Though PSN titles not transferring as well is a bit questionable. At least when it’s on a physical disc, you might be able to get the hardware and still play it offline even when the servers go down. If it’s something you can only get through the PSN store of the PS3, then the servers need to stay up for you to be able to re-download it in the future.”

    Exactly, this is my point.

    Once again, not having a go at anyone here (I know, I always say this), as this is a good wee debate we’ve got going here.

    Incidentally, would you lot like to hear from team VG247 on this and other PS4 issues in a podcast? If so, I’ll run it by Pat again.

    #96 2 years ago
  97. Eregol

    @Dave Cook (95)
    Yeah, busy arguing with us. Now be a good boy and update the article saying that Yoshida stated that they’re looking at a different way to have previous gen titles playable on the system. ;)

    #97 2 years ago
  98. OlderGamer

    Surely the Gaikai features won’t be free either right? I am thinking “included with PSN+”. Just asking.

    #98 2 years ago
  99. osric90

    Okay… so not backwards compatibility, no PSN games and stuff bought… what should we do? I mean… Okay, yes “just keep the damn PS3 and get over it”. We never got the PS2 backwards on that console either… I’m buying a PS2 before a PS4 I think. Then, maybe around 2016… if there’s any money, the PS4 for the sake of it.

    #99 2 years ago
  100. Bomba Luigi

    Diffrent Architecture makes it not easy, but not Impossible. What happend in this Generation, like in no Console Generation before, is that a lot of People put a lot of Money in a Online Network like PSN or Xbox Live. That really should count.

    Do they have to make PSN Purchases available? No, its up to them, they can do what they want. But Customer Care is an Important thing, because the more Money somene has put in the PSN, the more upset he will probably be. Thats not a good Strategy here, and for me, its more about the Attitude and Customer Care of Sony than about the Point if I can download that stuff on my PS4 too.

    Its just an Ugly Situation.

    #100 2 years ago
  101. OlderGamer

    Actualy Tea, I do the samething about MS too. I even critized Nintendo a for a few WiiU things. Ask around, I have gotten to the point where I hate everything lol.

    One of the reasons I am ticked about this is that I have already made up my mind(mostly) that I will NOT buy another XB product. I mean I will keep an eye open and see what happens, but for me I could be happy with a WiiU and a PC.

    But I would like to own a PS4. I hope Sony sort some of these bumps out.

    And what BL just posted. People, myself included, have a heavy investment in digital goods. On mobile, PC, we can have profiles/accounts on stuff like Amazon etc where we can store our content. If I get a new Galaxy Tablet, I can still use that digital content.

    Consoles need to work like that. I went prolly 80% with LIVE and MS this past gen. I am not ubber heavily invested in PSN. I have a few things. But if MS do this and step on my purchases…screw em. I am walking away.

    It is the practice that rubs me the wrong way.

    #101 2 years ago
  102. SlayerGT

    @88 No TEA but I do own almost every form of music from the Beatles ;) Digital sounds the worst btw :P

    #102 2 years ago
  103. reask

    I reckon there is always going to be crossover problems for all makers regardless.
    Personally not a big deal for me as I tend to just play the sp once for the most part.

    I think the online issue will be the bigger problem for both MS and Sony.
    Games like cod and bf for example.

    If there on both platforms people will be looking at there friends list to decide which to get it for.

    Again an issue for both MS and Sony and there isn,t really a whole lot they can do about it and I suppose it wont really matter a lot in the long run as they will still be purchased for the same company regardless.

    #103 2 years ago
  104. G1GAHURTZ

    @Dave:

    Ah, ok. I understand what you’re saying now.

    So Sony basically does have the ability to let people ‘keep’ PSN purchases, but isn’t allowing them to.

    If you have a hard drive full of PSN games, and have to trade your PS3 in, your games are lost forever, even though Sony could let you stream them through Gaikai.

    Well, it’s a little worse than I first understood, and I can definitely see why someone might be upset with this now.

    #104 2 years ago
  105. Eregol

    @104
    ‘So Sony basically does have the ability to let people ‘keep’ PSN purchases, but isn’t allowing them to.’
    Once again, this isn’t what’s being said at all. They’re looking at avenues to make it available, but because of the core machine architecture it just isn’t possible.

    #105 2 years ago
  106. reask

    @ 102.
    I fully agree with you digital music sounds crap compared to the old vinyl.

    Puts on slippers and makes himself a cup of hot chocolate. :(

    #106 2 years ago
  107. G1GAHURTZ

    @105:

    But you could play Gaikai on an iPad, so why can’t it be done on PS4?

    #107 2 years ago
  108. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    First, isn’t it a bit much inciting people to get angry? I’m not angry because I just don’t see myself wanting to play current-gen games when I have next-gen ones. Also, it breaks down like this:

    Let’s say it costs £100 more to put the old chipset in to make it backwards compatible. That’s £100 that 100% of people will have to pay extra on the console for the sake of what? 1%, 2% of gamers who actually play them. And the HUGE IRONY is that that one or two per cent could just keep their old console plugged in if they were really that bothered.

    This, EXACTLY the way Sony is doing it is the fair way. If you wanna play PS3 games, keep it plugged in for fuck’s sake, otherwise shut up and let the rest of us keep our future consoles reasonably priced.

    Now tell me what’s fair…

    Now tell me to get angry…

    #108 2 years ago
  109. Dave Cook

    @104 Yeah, that’s it basically :)

    It could be done, but then think of the lost money making potential. That’s the thing too, trading in to lose potentially hundreds of pounds worth of digital purchases. It’s a little bit shitty.

    @97 aw man, not arguing, just discussing and debating. The majority of folk here do it so politely, it’s good for discussion and my article ideas :)

    One thing that confuses me about some of your responses:

    I said PSN purchases won’t carry over.

    Some of you said I was wrong and that Sony actually said PSN games won’t transfer over.

    So if I’ve bought a game on PS3 that Sony decides to not port to PS4, my purchase of that particular game can’t be transferred, as the game doesn’t exist on PS4.

    These are one and the same. Where’s the confusion coming from?

    #109 2 years ago
  110. dizzygear

    “This is due to the architecture between PS3 and PS4 being so different. ”

    They could have stuck in a Cell CPU and rig it in some way that besides PS3 games it can also be used to offload other tasks to justify the costs instead of wasting time on social media bullshit i didn’t ask for.

    Even if the Gaikai thing will be used to stream old games the rollout in the PAL zone will prolly be a year late and missing half the games.

    #110 2 years ago
  111. Dave Cook

    @105 yeah, but Gaikai has the ability to run on native tech. Architecture doesn’t matter when Gaikai is involved. Read up on it dude, it’s seriously impressive how it works :)

    #111 2 years ago
  112. Dave Cook

    @108 yeah you’re right, I edited that bit out. My apologies.

    #112 2 years ago
  113. Eregol

    @107 Have they said they’re not going to do it?
    No?
    Then I see no reason why they can’t.
    Also applies to Dave @111.

    #113 2 years ago
  114. Bomba Luigi

    I know, thats even for First World Problems Standart Silly, but I really don’t have any Space left under or on the Sides of my TV, and the PS3 is a Big thing.

    But I’m realy Silly now :P

    #114 2 years ago
  115. Dave Cook

    @113 I really hope they will, but they are saying at the moment that only some games will make the cut.

    Trust me, I hope I’m proven wrong. I’m on your side here :)

    #115 2 years ago
  116. salarta

    @96: I don’t listen to podcasts, make of that what you will. :P

    #116 2 years ago
  117. NeoSquall

    Ok for the PS3 ones, but what about the PSOne and PS2 ones?

    #117 2 years ago
  118. ManuOtaku

    This is one of the reasons, between a lot of others as well, that i dont like digital only consoles, or services like steam, etc, just for not controlling the access of the games, i just hope in the future they have both options physical and digital, like stairs and elevators, they can coexist together, the gamer should choose what he/she likes.

    #118 2 years ago
  119. eeklipz

    I am somewhere between casual-hardcore gamer, however, this predictable change does not bother me. I am the type who will sell my ps3 and put that cash toward my ps4 purchase like I did for the ps3 purchase. What ever is loss is loss. I don’t typically “download” games for that very reason. I buy physical hard copies and most of the games I buy, I beat and get rid of. Times change so fast that it is hard to keep up with everything anyway…I won’t cry over spilt milk.

    #119 2 years ago
  120. xino

    makes no bloody sense!

    another garbage move from sony.
    people don’t even know they are being deceived!

    you pay for PSN+ that encourages you to use cloud saving, so what’s the point of all that!??

    no different to them removing the bloody Other OS

    #120 2 years ago
  121. osric90

    This can’t be good… if not for exclusives I would be staying with my PC. Man, I love the PlayStation consoles but since PS2 it has been showing a middle finger to most fans about the fair services. PS2 was a perfect console. The first PS3 was close enough, but damn Yellow Lights of Death… then they take off backwards for “saving” now we have to say goodbye to all of out PSN and other games. Gaikai? Really? They’re basically killing the charm of what consoles represented one day. Don’t know if that’s a necessary sacrifice for jumping to the next generation of gaming.

    #121 2 years ago

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    The next Assassin’s Creed game after Victory may finally bring ninja and assassins together. An Assassin’s Creed fan has spotted what certainly looks like a heavy hint that the next game after Victory will be set in Japan. Ubisoft forums member Cornik22 was looking through the Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag official art book when […]

  • Resident Evil HD modder aims to restore original, terrible voice acting

    Resident Evil and its early sequels are justifiably famous for their simply dire voice acting. Some Resident Evil fans feel they just can’t enjoy the experience of exploring Umbrella facilities if someone isn’t talking at them with absolutely no regard for pacing, content or tone. As a result, modder Bunny has stepped up to the […]

  • Record iPhone sales drive Apple to revenue spike

    The iPhone is still going strong – in fact, it’s selling better than ever. Apple has announced its financial results for the quarter ending December 27 2014, exceeding expectations with a 29.5% increase in revenues to $74.6 billion. This was a new record for the company. One of the key factors in this spike is […]

  • HoloLens has “mind-blowing” potential for games, says Microsoft CEO

    Microsoft’s VR wearable HoloLens is going to be great for games, according to CEO Satya Nadella. Speaking to investors, Nadella made Microsoft’s entertainment plans for the device explicit. “It’s also getting clearer how the games people love today will evolve to mind-blowing experiences in the future when designed for the mixed reality that Windows 10 […]

  • EA Q3: Battlefield 5 still on for holiday 2016, PGA Tour 15 spring release confirmed

    EA announced its financial results for its Q3 fiscal year 2015 quarter, ended December 31, 2014, noting total net revenue $1.13 billion in total net revenue compared to $808 million year-over-year. For the nine months ending December 31, total net revenue came in at $3.3 billion. Net revenues were up 39% and net income came […]

  • Players logged 113M single-player hours in Dragon Age: Inquisition, other EA games stats

    Ahead of its Q3 2015 earnings release, Electronic Arts has released a game infographic showing some interesting stats compiled through gameplay from October – December 2014. For FIFA 15, over 3.3 billion goals were made; 73 million knockouts occurred in EA SPORTS UFC; over 10 million families were created in The Sims 4; 113 million […]

  • Hyrule Warriors has shipped 1 million units worldwide

    Koei Tecmo has announced shipments of its Wii U hack and slash action title, Hyrule Warriors, has shipped one million units worldwide. The Omega Force-developed title was released in Japan on August 14 and in the west on September 26. Two packs of DLC for the game are slated for February alongside the version 1.5.0 […]

  • Xbox Games Store discounts Never Alone, Dragon Age: Inquisition, more

    This week’s deals available through the Xbox Games Store will be valid until February 2 with titles such as Battlefield 4, Dragon Age Inquisition, Never Alone, and Titanfall discounted. Discounted titles with an asterisk are for Xbox Live Gold members only. Xbox One Just Dance 2015* – 40% Another World* – 50% Never Alone* – […]

  • Say hello to Mortal Kombat X’s latest character: Reptile

    As promised, one of two character reveals this week for Mortal Kombat X has occurred: it’s the acid-spitting Reptile. Nice! Watch the video above. Mortal Kombat X is slated for release on April 14 and will be available on PC, PS3, PS4,Bxo 360 and Xbox One. Thanks, MrTGJelly (Trent).

  • Twisted fairy tale Woolfe: The Red Hood Diaries hits Steam Early Access

    Woolfe: The Red Hood Diaries, the successful Kickstarter from GRIN Studios, has launched on Steam Early Access. The PC title is described as a “cinematic fable featuring a vengeful Red Riding Hood,” who armed with an axe sets out on a quest to avenge the murder of her parents. Gameplay features action-platforming, combo-based hack ‘n […]

  • Dead or Alive 5: Last Round delayed to late March on Steam

    Koei Tecmo has announced it is delaying the PC release of Dead or Alive 5: Last Round to March. According to an updated listing on Steam (thanks, AGB), the fighter was delayed “in order to provide you with the best experience possible.” To apologize for the delay, Team Ninja will offer the Halloween 2013 Set, […]

  • Dragon’s Dogma Online will be F2P “no plans” for western release

    Dragon’s Dogma Online will be a free-to-play title for PC, PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3. Set for release this year, Dragon’s Dogma Online has a lobby which will support up to 100 players, is open-world, and the executive producer is Hiroyuki Kobayashi. Players can form groups with up to four players or pawns while raids […]

  • Watch this release video for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel DLC Lady Hammerlock

    The Lady Hammerlock DLC for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel releases today on PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, and coinciding with the release is the launch trailer. In the Lady Hammerlock DLC, players are introduced and will be able to step into the shoes of Sir Hammerlock’s sister, Lady Aurelia the Baroness. The DLC will run […]

  • Free DLC for Tales of Zestiria takes place after main storyline

    Free DLC will be released in Japan for Tales of Zestiria, and while Bandai Namco has yet to state whether it will be released westward with the core game this summer, it’s an interesting slice of content. According to information from Jump posted by Siliconera, the DLC Alisha After Episode: What Is Reflected In The […]

  • This video of a Paris flat looks the real deal, but it’s all Unreal Engine 4

    I’m not entirely sure when, or how, this fella managed to sneak into my secret flat in Paris and film it, but since it’s out there I may as well share it with you. All joking aside, this video is rather amazing. It provides a virtual tour of a flat located in Paris; however, it’s […]

  • The Witness passes key development milestone, still no release date

    The Witness has seemingly come back from the dead. Creator Jonathan Blow has posted an update on the game’s development. Surely you still remember The Witness? Jonathan Blow’s follow-up to Braid, which was shown during the PlayStation 4 reveal event all the way back in February 2013? Well, today we got our first development update […]

  • You can now take selfies in World of Warcraft

    The latest patch to World of Warcraft has added a S.E.L.F.I.E. Camera to the game. And it does exactly what it sounds like it does. Patch 6.1 is currently being deployed to World of Warcraft’s Public Test Realms (PTR). There’s a massive list of patch notes, but the most pressing one, other than Twitter integration, […]

  • Hellblade: early gameplay and prototype footage revealed

    The latest developer diary for Hellblade is here with a look at some early gameplay prototypes and a peek at some polished areas. Hellblade developer Ninja Theory has revealed even more details of how game development works behind the scenes. The eighth part of this ongoing diary shows early gameplay footage along with some intriguing […]

  • Resident Evil Revelations 2: Raid mode offline-only on launch, more details

    Capcom has revealed a tonne of new details about Raid mode in Resident Evil: Revelations 2. Capcom has confirmed that Raid mode will launch with the first episode of Revelations 2 in February. You will be playing it offline only though, either solo or in split-screen co-op. As for the online portion, Capcom promised it […]

  • Watch the first 20 minutes of Life is Strange

    The first 20 minutes of Life is Strange have been posted online for anyone to watch. The opening 20 minutes of Life is Strange set the stage for what kind of game it is. The kind that you’ll probably like if you’re a fan of Telltale games. The video is courtesy of consolewarsofficial and you […]

  • Don’t blame Ubisoft for cancelling keys – blame the culture of overpriced games

    Publishers need to drop PC games prices in order to stem the flourishing grey market, says Matt Martin. “How are you going to sell me Far Cry 4 for £45 when I can pick up Far Cry, Far Cry 2, Far Cry 3, Far Cry: Blood Dragon and extra DLC for just £30?” Some players […]

  • Dragon’s Dogma Online is real, full reveal in this week’s Famitsu

    What’s been heavily-rumoured to be the next instalment in the Dragon’s Dogma franchise, Dragon’s Dogma Online, will be fully revealed this week. According to a recent post by Famitsu, the magazine’s upcoming weekly issue, which releases January 29, will contain a massive feature on Dragon’s Dogma Online. The magazine will dedicate 18 pages to all […]

  • Valve responds to recent Counter-Strike match-fixing scandal, bans offenders

    Valve has investigated the recent case of match-fixing involving two teams in the Counter-Strike: Global Offensive professional scene and decided to ban those involved from future tournaments. Recent allegations involving match-fixing between iBUYPOWER and NetcodeGuides.com – two of the professional teams that played in Cevo Season 5 – came to light. Valve has took notice […]

  • Having issues playing Grim Fandango Remastered on PS4? Sony is offering help

    Sony has offered a few steps to help those who are having issues with their pre-loaded PS4 installs of Grim Fandango Remastered. A few reports have started to appear online from users who’ve pre-ordered and pre-loaded Grim Fandango Remastered on their PS4 consoles. Sony has since posted a support thread on the official forums, to […]

  • Get Dragon Age: Inquisition for $36 and more in EA’s Xbox One sale

    Many EA digital games are being offered at considerable discounts on Xbox One right now. The latest EA sale is pretty good, offering sales on many AAA titles. It’s only available on Xbox One, with extra savings for Xbox Live Gold subscribers. The list below covers prices for Gold Subscribers. Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare […]

  • Grim Fandango Remastered reviews round-up, all the scores

    Grim Fandango Remastered is a classic game brought into the new generation, so it’s time for everyone to know how great it is. The reviews for Grim Fandango Remastered have started popping up and as per usual, we’ve collected a few of them below. Grim Fandango Remastered is, as the name suggests, a remastered version […]

  • The Witcher 3: latest build is 1080p on PS4, 900p on Xbox One

    The recent preview build of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt was running at full-HD resolution on PlayStation 4 and 900p on Xbox One. German website Gamestar attended the recent preview event for The Witcher 3 and examined the three versions that were on offer, PC, PS4 and Xbox One. Here’s the quote, courtesy of Google […]

  • Joystiq is likely to close – rumour

    AOL is rumoured to be closing its video game site, Joystiq. Re/code is reporting that AOL is likely to close its video game site Joystiq soon, according to “various sources.” The move is part of a company-wide restructuring that will affect Joystiq and other “under-performing content properties.” Joystiq is one of the most renowned sites […]

  • The Last of Us movie will be “pretty faithful” to the game

    The Last of Us will bring many of the same elements to the big screen as the small one, according to writer Neil Druckmann. Although The Last of Us will have to be adapted in various ways to make the transition from lengthy interactive adventure to cinema-friendly story arc, Druckmann is hoping to keep the […]

  • Microsoft is fixing Xbox One’s slow controllers

    Xbox One control pads have many charms, but quick start up is not one of them. The Xbox One controller currently takes up to five seconds to connect to your console after switching on, which is an eternity for someone with an attention span as short as mine. Luckily, Microsoft is working to fix this […]

  • Lucius 2 releases on Friday the 13th (of course)

    Lucius 2 has a really fitting release date. Lucius developer Shiver Games has produced a follow-up to the dark tale of an evil child, and it’s coming your way on February 13 – which just so happens to be a Friday. Lucius 2: The Prophecy will set you back $20, and release through Steam. As […]

  • Saints Row 4: Re-Elected PS4 recalled in Australia, incorrect content to blame

    Saints Row 4: Re-Elected has been recalled in Australia due to a mysterious manufacturing issue. An Australian PR representative said that the retail PS4 version of Saints Row 4: Re-Elected has “a serious manufacturing issue” and has been recalled nation-wide. Here’s what we were told (emphasis mine): “A manufacturing issue has caused an incorrectly classified […]

  • The Whispered World follow up now coming to PS4, too

    Deadalic’s gorgeous-looking adventure Silence has been confirmed for a fourth platform. Originally announced for Mac and PC with an Xbox One port one revealed at a later date, Silence is now on its way to PS4 as well. All versions are due later this year. Silence is Deadalic’s first multi-platform release and in my mind […]

  • Mythbusters to tackle DOOM this weekend

    DOOM is the subject of the next episode of Mythbusters. Having been airing for over ten years now, Mythbusters has pretty much run out of myths to bust, which is why we find ourselves in 2015 with an episode dedicating to answering the question “could DOOM be real?” Bethesda has rveealed that the January 31 […]

  • Destiny hosting a Bungie Bounty – go go go

    Destiny players have a chance to take down Bungie employees in return for one of the most exclusive vanity items in the game. Destiny’s Bungie Bounties usually feature guests from the community, and today’s event is no exception. Joining Bungie community manager David “Deej” Dague are several members of Bungie.org, the developer’s most staunch fan […]

  • Elite: Dangerous developer issues lay-offs

    Elite: Dangerous team Frontier Developments has had to let staff go. At least 15 staff have been laid off from the developer’s Halifax studio. According to an investor update, this decision will allow Frontier to focus its efforts at its primary studio in Cambridge, England. “With its business emphasis now on two major self-published franchises, […]

  • Dragon Age: Inquisition tavern songs free for a limited time

    Dragon Age: Inquisition tunes can be yours for the bargain price of zero cashmoney. The tavern songs from Dragon Age: Inquisition will be made available for purchase from various digital distributors sometime after February 9. Until then, though, you can have them for free – including their sheet music. To take advantage of this generous […]

  • Even the Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 teaser is frightening

    Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 is probably going to be just as tense and uncomfortable as its two prequels. This teaser for Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 is the first we’ve heard of the project since creator Scott Cawthon confirmed it is in the works. The third entry in the series is now up on […]

  • 6.6 million Xbox consoles shipped last quarter

    Xbox One and Xbox 360 console sales were strong last quarter, although Microsoft isn’t talking hard numbers yet. Microsoft shipped 6.6 million Xbox 360 and Xbox One consoles to retailers in the quarter ending December 31, the company revealed in its latest financial briefing. This figure wasn’t broken down by platform, and Microsoft didn’t supply […]

  • Homeworld Remastered Collection: five minutes of b-roll footage

    We may not have proper, uncut gameplay footage of the Homeworld Remastered Collection, but we have the next best thing. Homeworld Remastered Collection was confirmed to release on February 25. Gearbox has only showed a trailer, but no extended gameplay demos. There was however a b-roll video showing at PAX South, and we’ve embedded it […]

  • Grim Fandango Remastered looks sharp in these new screens

    Grim Fandango will come back from the dead with the Remastered edition, and it’s looking great. Grim Fandango Remastered has a few new screens available to prove that even old games can look stunning with the right remaster, especially ones with an already well-defined art style. Have a look at them below and get excited. […]

  • Battlefield Hardline: beta weapons, maps, modes, progression system and more

    The Battlefield Hardline beta will include a third new map and a new game mode, on top of what’s already announced. You may remember last week DICE started a community mission for all Battlefield 4 players. The goal was to reach 2 billion points playing Rush mode. That goal has been achieved and as a […]

  • Dying Light launch trailer is one last display of its forte

    The launch trailer for Dying Light is here one day ahead of the game’s release. Techland and Warner Bros. have put out the launch trailer for Dying Light. The trailer is a short reminder of the game’s main selling points: free-running, weapon crafting, drop-kicking zombies. Reviews should start to come out tomorrow for the game […]

  • Watch The Witcher 3 developers stream new gameplay on Twitch

    The Witcher 3 developer CD Projekt RED is hosting a Twitch live-stream to show off brand new gameplay footage and answer some fan questions. The live-stream will start at 7:00pm GMT, 2:00pm EST, 11:00am PST. It will show off plenty of new footage, some of which was shown only to the press so far. The […]

  • Finally, some screens for Final Fantasy 15

    Patience is a virtue and we finally have our hands on a few gameplay screens from Final Fantasy 15. There’s not a lot of them, but they show the impressive lighting and they’re all gameplay as far as I can tell, so take a look. There is no release date for Final Fantasy 15 as […]

  • Here’s 15 minutes of gameplay from The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in 1080p

    The Witcher 3 has a new direct-feed, 1080p video available that’s 100% gameplay. Would you like some gameplay of The Witcher 3 in beautiful 1080p? Why, of course you would! The gameplay below shows combat, conversations, travelling. In short, it’s a small sample of everything the game will offer. If you’re looking to learn much […]

  • Two Mortal Kombat X characters to be revealed this week

    Mortal Kombat X will get not one, but two character reveals this week. Mortal Kombat creator Ed Boon has been at again on Twitter, teasing all kinds of reveals over the past few days. Firstly, Boon tweeted this image, which at first glance appears to show a character holding a bow. However, further examination by […]

  • Planetside 2 successfully claims the Guinness World Record for biggest FPS battle

    The Planetside 2 community has successfully organised an online battle involving over 1000 players, breaking the previous Guinness World Record. The event, which was organised by Planetside Battles was pitched to the community last week. 1,158 players have answered the call, smashing the record for “Most Players Online in an FPS Battle.” The previous 999 […]

  • Microsoft aiming for Xbox One-to-PC streaming to function while you watch TV

    Streaming Xbox One games to PC while you watch TV on the console through the HDMI pass-through is something Microsoft is hoping to achieve when the service launches with Windows 10. Microsoft’s Phil Spencer has been on Twitter answering fan questions following last week’s Windows 10 event. One interesting bit that came out of those […]

  • Everything we know about The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is sure to be one of the biggest RPGs of the year, due for release in May on PC, Xbox One and PS4. Delayed since its target release of 2015, CD Projekt Red’s latest game takes the series to a true open world environment, and charges the player with tracking […]

  • Battlefield Hardline beta date leaked – rumour

    According to an email sent to some YouTubers, the upcoming beta for Battlefield Hardline is scheduled for February 3. The date for the Battlefield Hardline beta is believed to be February 3. It comes from an email that’s been sent by Ronku to various YouTubers reminding them of the starting date, February 3. Ronku is […]