PS4: current-gen PSN purchases & saves won’t carry over

This was expected so I’m not too fussed. We already knew PS3 games wouldn’t carry over. Sony will make up for this somehow, I’m sure of that.

So long as my purchases still work on the machine I bought them for, then I don’t see what the big deal is.

JM

That’s again what i hate about consoles. With each generation Sony/MS and Nintendo asks you tu buy games again.

I hope that Steambox will do everything right. When i purchase my PC or any device that has Steam, I don’t buy games twice and my saves are always in the cloud.

It will be interesting to see if Steambox will sell us games twice.

Expected. I don’t sell my good hardware anyways. Would have been possible thou if there were more fans of Cell architecture right? If we were looking at a PS4 with 6 Cells in it..it probly would have been real easy.

Yeah I don’t see the big fuss, that was expected.

But arguably it would be kinda bitter to pay for the same game a second time on the PS4. Having bought the original should at least earn you a discount, no?

Hopefully this is only for full-retail PSN games,like Infamous, Uncharted etc. and not for digital titles like Journey, Limbo and the like.

Anyhow, not really bothered as I haven’t bought any PSN title and I don’t plan to either, maybe some cross-buy games that work on the Vita. I don’t trust digital distribution on closed formats, except for PC/Steam.

Can be a Pain in the Ass when you Buy something like a new Dragon Age and you cant import save Games because of the Console. There are Games out there where that is a really important Thing.

Completely expected.

I think I’m out… I’ll keep playing PS3 for another year or two, and then I’ll get a Steambox.

Howl! Rage! Bloodshed… Now I’ve got to keep my PS3!

What will I trade in now? I suppose I could get a cheap WiiU…

So does this include indie games, movies, classic PS1 games etc? Anything you have bought from PSN?

If so, I don’t see why people shouldn’t be mad about it.

Completely expected because cell programmed games aren’t compatible without a massive rewrite, but now is this a point where MS won’t stumble because they’re already on x86 architecture and imitating a 360 should be easier for their new device. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

This is nothing more than a lame journalistic attempt to incite the masses. The troll face picture and the “get angry now” in the title serve nothing to this non-news article.

Nintendo is doing something similar to this by charging $0.50 – $1.00 to redownload games you already own for the Wii U. Microsoft, when they finally announce their next generation hardware, will probably make you have to dance a specific dance with the Kinect to get the games you’ve gotten from them again – or – you’ll have to be an Xbox Gold member.

I really don’t understand why the pitchforks and torches come out for anything Sony does. Having to repurchase was completely expected because the software is probably completely new. Even if it’s not so what? Do you really need to Final Fantasy 7 on yet another console? If this is your first console (the PS4) then it doesn’t matter in the least. But if you have a PS3 then you can get FF7 and hook that up for when you want to play it. These consoles are small and are easily portable.

@13 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony

I’m pretty sure you need that.

Not angry at all, at least it’s an excuse to still have the PS3 around, would hate to part with it :p

Well I’m not expecting to get it exactly on launch so by the time I do get it I’ll be so over with everything I got from PSN that I just won’t care.

I have a working PS3 and it isn’t going anywhere for a good while yet. Why would I care if they won’t carry over to my PS4..?

I mostly buy Vita and PSP stuff nowadays… It will just stay on my vita.

WHAT I EXPECT FROM SONY…

Ps Cloud launch on PS3. Games bought on PSN compatible at the moment with Ps Cloud.

Ps Cloud inside PS4. At least, you are not losing your stuff for PS gaming on PS4.

@13 “This is nothing more than a lame journalistic attempt to incite the masses.”

No, it’s not. I think it’s pissing in the face of consumers.

#13

The WiiU is 100% flawless backward compatible, no payment required.

You can optionally pay to redownload games with gamepad-only support.

Glad to see the troll face picture is gone anyway.

@21 Yeah I was trying to make a point about sony letting down its customers, but it wasn’t the best way of doing so.

Oh come on! You can’t tell me there isn’t a simple solution to the problem. That’s just fucking with the consumer and nothing more.

@22 That’s fair enough, it’s a bit annoying that they won’t carry over and I can understand why some may be angry.

But your purchases aren’t going anywhere, they’re still on your PS3/PSP/Vita.

“So does this include indie games, movies, classic PS1 games etc? Anything you have bought from PSN?

If so, I don’t see why people shouldn’t be mad about it.”

+100

@23, The simple solution is to keep your PS3.

Keep your ps3 then you are gauranted to be able to play your games

Problem solved.

@ #19 Yes it is! Did M$oft threaten to pull the nice big ad contract from you unless you said something bad about Sony’s new system? And the same goes for the ‘ I’m still on the fence article’, troll.

No biggie.

Who buys a £400 console to play last gen games?

Yawn, non-issue

All you “keep your PS3″ guys are being foolish. What it means is that at some point in the PS4 lifecycle support for those purchased games will be dropped.

MS did the same BS thing when transitioning from XB to XB360.

Gad is right, I can use all of my Wii purchases on my WiiU. It even transfered my game saves.

And Erth is right, I can use my old PC games on my new PC. And when I buy a new and different PC, guess what I can still use them.

This is a bit BS. I was thinking of redoing my PSN+ sub. I don’t think I will at this point. Really takes a lot of wind out of my sales, when thinking about PS products.

@28:

Stop being so paranoid.

To everyone saying ‘just keep your PS3′. You shouldn’t have to. You’ve paid for your content, and shouldn’t be asked to pay for it again if you make the switch. Some of you will only be able to afford PS4 by trading in your PS3. Why should you be punished for that?

I seriously think this is a shit move on their part.

I thought it would be obvious that they wouldn’t carry over due to the different architecture of the PS4 to the PS3.

No doubt they’ll re-do the PS3 games and tag them with UHD at the end, like they have done with the remakes this gen, just so you can play them on your PS4.

Anything to bring in revenue from people who will buy the same game over and over again on the new platforms is always in their plans. Its nasty and really does milk the consumers, but you will get people who will be WoW’ed easily and buy the ‘New, updated’ version.

There is a market for it and Sony will probably go for it…

Fanboy hysteria is a hell of a drug.

@33 Nobody’s pulled off backwards compatability yet though. They all said they would going into this generation, but lo and behold, they didn’t.

@#32 Not paranoid this is how M$oft work. Check out some of the articles on semiaccurate. Sites like gamespot etc all took money from them last gen to do exactly that. And where exactly did all the patent trolling come from? It only started when M$oft entered the console business.

I don’t understand the uproar.

They’re not going to release the same games on next-gen PSN, the architecture’s completely different. You bought them on PS3, you can play them on PS3. It’s no different to the lack of physical back-compat.

#35

Nintendo did flawless BC.

MS did partial BC (I still play xbox1 games weekly).

Sony did BC for a while.

It is console thinking. And it is stuck in the past. There is zero reason to not build your platform going forward. Consumers should be able to build a digital profile/account of purchased content and have access to that content across different devices and yes different generational jumps.

The game saves, to me, are not a big deal. But the purchased content is huge. Now I wonder what MS will do? I had assumed(esp after buying a WiiU, and seeing Nintendo do it) that content already purchased will travel with you.

@33

“You shouldn’t have to. You’ve paid for your content” Are you new to this gen? That is all that it has been because BC was either removed or it was totally borked.

The PS4 is using completely different architecture so Sony would have to find a way of emulating a PS3 to support the purchases made previously on the PS4 or find a way to port the catalog on to the PS4 both of which would be costly. I am fine with this as I plan on keeping my Ps3 is it really that hard to keep the system hooked up or to hook it up?

“I can use my old PC games on my new PC”

Not necessarily there are plenty of games that won’t play because of the transition from 98 to XP.

@39

Not across generational jumps if the architecture changes. You can’t use software designed for PowerPC Macs on current Intel Macs.

@38 I actually owned a Wii, and it was not flawless.

You needed a gamecube controller and a memory card to make it work. That’s not exactly thought through.

Why the hell couldn’t you just use a proprietary Wii gamepad and the HD?

Keywords being “for a while”, “partial”.

@36 Without checking the website, ‘semiaccurate’ doesn’t sound like the type of name a trusted source should use. I know, book by its cover and all that but just my observation.

Now, lets be rational here. If this applies to ps1 downloads (which it will not probably), then its shit. But ps2 and ps3 ARE VERY HARD to emulate. Sorry if you expected otherwise, then you are damn wrong.

@Dave,
Is it really pissing on the consumers? When was it announced that ps4 will play ps3 games? Maybe you were expecting too much. Its almost sure 720 will do the same.

Keep the ps3 then. Many people will do that, unless some stupid argument that “I have space for only one box” comes up.
First world couch potatoes.
And people want cheaper consoles……

#36

You are an idiot. Go away.

@3 That’s again what I hate about Erth, he always finds random things to whine about.

No one is expecting you to buy the game again, and how is that with every new console? I’m pretty sure the PS3 is the only console they’ve actually done alot of “lets put this old game up here as well”.

You’ve bought the game on your PS3 and you can keep playing it on your PS3. No one at all is forcing you to buy the game again for the next console. What they do is actually put the effort into making some games (mostly our favs) available on the new console as well(which actually costs them money, backwards compatibility sucks because it limits the hardware unless you remake the games for the newer console) as a convenience for those who’d like to spend the money not to have two or three consoles in the living room.

@31 Playing old PC games on a new PC is quite the hassle mostly and not at all as easy as you make it sound. Also it’s not at all the same thing to keep playing the games on a PC.

Again, YOU CAN STILL PLAY YOUR GAMES ON YOUR PS3.

Overall any type of backwards compatibility is bullshit because it limits the new hardware more than most of you people know.

Consoles has always been like this and until we’ve come to a point where no real upgrades are needed (hardware or software) it will most likely continue to be this way.

HOW WILL I SURVIVE THIS?!?!?!

I’ll just put my PS3 up next to my PS4 and then I can swap between them in no time if I ever want to play the PS3 games again.

People are such bloody crybabies.

It depends on how any subsequent PS3 support through Gaikai is handled. PS4 clearly doesn’t support b/c with PS3 for technical reasons – unless there is something they aren’t telling us yet. Actual support is still a long term vision.

“SCE is exploring unique opportunities enabled by cloud technology with the long-term vision of making PlayStation libraries including an incredible catalog of more than 3000 PS3 titles that is unmatched in the industry, mostly ubiquitous on PS4.”

If PS3/PS2/PSOne titles are never supported (PSN, Retail, Indie, PSOne etc) then this is expected. Unfortunate but expected. If they add in support for some PS3 titles through Gaikai then they shouldn’t charge you again for download titles you already paid for. Though they may charge you for the Gaikai service in some way.

@Dave, My PS3 PSN stuff won’t cross over? Oh noes Sony Suck!!

Have you asked Sony if you can redownload it for free from your PS4 PSN?

Has anyone?

Rereading it, I think this entire thing has been taken out of context.

Will PSN games designed to run on PS3 run on PS4? No.
If Sony releases a PS1 emulator for PS4, will you have to rebuy PS1 games from PSN? No, that’s just ridiculous.

@40 sure, the architecture is different, but why not make the games streamable via Gaikai at no charge if you previously bought a license? Gaikai uses their native tech, not yours. It is absolutely possible.

If I’m understanding this correctly, most of you aren’t bothered by this?

It sets a potential, worrying precedent for what will happen once everything goes digital, where publishers can hold you to ransom for whatever price they want because they lock down the content.