PS4: current-gen PSN purchases & saves won’t carry over

Actualy Tea, I do the samething about MS too. I even critized Nintendo a for a few WiiU things. Ask around, I have gotten to the point where I hate everything lol.

One of the reasons I am ticked about this is that I have already made up my mind(mostly) that I will NOT buy another XB product. I mean I will keep an eye open and see what happens, but for me I could be happy with a WiiU and a PC.

But I would like to own a PS4. I hope Sony sort some of these bumps out.

And what BL just posted. People, myself included, have a heavy investment in digital goods. On mobile, PC, we can have profiles/accounts on stuff like Amazon etc where we can store our content. If I get a new Galaxy Tablet, I can still use that digital content.

Consoles need to work like that. I went prolly 80% with LIVE and MS this past gen. I am not ubber heavily invested in PSN. I have a few things. But if MS do this and step on my purchases…screw em. I am walking away.

It is the practice that rubs me the wrong way.

@88 No TEA but I do own almost every form of music from the Beatles Digital sounds the worst btw

I reckon there is always going to be crossover problems for all makers regardless.
Personally not a big deal for me as I tend to just play the sp once for the most part.

I think the online issue will be the bigger problem for both MS and Sony.
Games like cod and bf for example.

If there on both platforms people will be looking at there friends list to decide which to get it for.

Again an issue for both MS and Sony and there isn,t really a whole lot they can do about it and I suppose it wont really matter a lot in the long run as they will still be purchased for the same company regardless.

@Dave:

Ah, ok. I understand what you’re saying now.

So Sony basically does have the ability to let people ‘keep’ PSN purchases, but isn’t allowing them to.

If you have a hard drive full of PSN games, and have to trade your PS3 in, your games are lost forever, even though Sony could let you stream them through Gaikai.

Well, it’s a little worse than I first understood, and I can definitely see why someone might be upset with this now.

@104
‘So Sony basically does have the ability to let people ‘keep’ PSN purchases, but isn’t allowing them to.’
Once again, this isn’t what’s being said at all. They’re looking at avenues to make it available, but because of the core machine architecture it just isn’t possible.

@ 102.
I fully agree with you digital music sounds crap compared to the old vinyl.

Puts on slippers and makes himself a cup of hot chocolate.

@105:

But you could play Gaikai on an iPad, so why can’t it be done on PS4?

First, isn’t it a bit much inciting people to get angry? I’m not angry because I just don’t see myself wanting to play current-gen games when I have next-gen ones. Also, it breaks down like this:

Let’s say it costs £100 more to put the old chipset in to make it backwards compatible. That’s £100 that 100% of people will have to pay extra on the console for the sake of what? 1%, 2% of gamers who actually play them. And the HUGE IRONY is that that one or two per cent could just keep their old console plugged in if they were really that bothered.

This, EXACTLY the way Sony is doing it is the fair way. If you wanna play PS3 games, keep it plugged in for fuck’s sake, otherwise shut up and let the rest of us keep our future consoles reasonably priced.

Now tell me what’s fair…

Now tell me to get angry…

@104 Yeah, that’s it basically

It could be done, but then think of the lost money making potential. That’s the thing too, trading in to lose potentially hundreds of pounds worth of digital purchases. It’s a little bit shitty.

@97 aw man, not arguing, just discussing and debating. The majority of folk here do it so politely, it’s good for discussion and my article ideas

One thing that confuses me about some of your responses:

I said PSN purchases won’t carry over.

Some of you said I was wrong and that Sony actually said PSN games won’t transfer over.

So if I’ve bought a game on PS3 that Sony decides to not port to PS4, my purchase of that particular game can’t be transferred, as the game doesn’t exist on PS4.

These are one and the same. Where’s the confusion coming from?

“This is due to the architecture between PS3 and PS4 being so different. ”

They could have stuck in a Cell CPU and rig it in some way that besides PS3 games it can also be used to offload other tasks to justify the costs instead of wasting time on social media bullshit i didn’t ask for.

Even if the Gaikai thing will be used to stream old games the rollout in the PAL zone will prolly be a year late and missing half the games.

@105 yeah, but Gaikai has the ability to run on native tech. Architecture doesn’t matter when Gaikai is involved. Read up on it dude, it’s seriously impressive how it works

@108 yeah you’re right, I edited that bit out. My apologies.

@107 Have they said they’re not going to do it?
No?
Then I see no reason why they can’t.
Also applies to Dave @111.

I know, thats even for First World Problems Standart Silly, but I really don’t have any Space left under or on the Sides of my TV, and the PS3 is a Big thing.

But I’m realy Silly now

@113 I really hope they will, but they are saying at the moment that only some games will make the cut.

Trust me, I hope I’m proven wrong. I’m on your side here

@96: I don’t listen to podcasts, make of that what you will.

Ok for the PS3 ones, but what about the PSOne and PS2 ones?

This is one of the reasons, between a lot of others as well, that i dont like digital only consoles, or services like steam, etc, just for not controlling the access of the games, i just hope in the future they have both options physical and digital, like stairs and elevators, they can coexist together, the gamer should choose what he/she likes.

I am somewhere between casual-hardcore gamer, however, this predictable change does not bother me. I am the type who will sell my ps3 and put that cash toward my ps4 purchase like I did for the ps3 purchase. What ever is loss is loss. I don’t typically “download” games for that very reason. I buy physical hard copies and most of the games I buy, I beat and get rid of. Times change so fast that it is hard to keep up with everything anyway…I won’t cry over spilt milk.

makes no bloody sense!

another garbage move from sony.
people don’t even know they are being deceived!

you pay for PSN+ that encourages you to use cloud saving, so what’s the point of all that!??

no different to them removing the bloody Other OS

This can’t be good… if not for exclusives I would be staying with my PC. Man, I love the PlayStation consoles but since PS2 it has been showing a middle finger to most fans about the fair services. PS2 was a perfect console. The first PS3 was close enough, but damn Yellow Lights of Death… then they take off backwards for “saving” now we have to say goodbye to all of out PSN and other games. Gaikai? Really? They’re basically killing the charm of what consoles represented one day. Don’t know if that’s a necessary sacrifice for jumping to the next generation of gaming.