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NPD January: Xbox 360 moves 281,00 units – report puts Wii U sales at 57,000

Friday, 15th February 2013 15:19 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Xbox 360 moved 281,000 units in January, according to an NPD report from the firm. While Nintendo didn’t send out its usual NPD sales figures last night like Microsoft did, a CNET report indicates the new console didn’t fair too well for the month.

According to Microsoft, Xbox 360 was the number-one selling console for the “25th consecutive month” with more than $338 million spent on Xbox 360 retail including games, consoles and accessories in January. The console held a 44% market share compared to other current-generation consoles.

Wii U, on the other hands, moved 57,000 units during the January period, according to a CNET report.

A report on NeoGAF states Vita sold close to the mid 30,000 mark.

Total hardware sales for the January period reached $205 million, and software sales were slightly under $393 million.

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59 Comments

  1. The_Red

    Vita & Wii U: Will they survive?
    Wii U probably will but Vita won’t unless Sony cuts the price on 2/20.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. CyberMarco

    ^Well, I don’t think price is the biggest issue of all. I can find a WiFi PS Vita for 185€, and a 3DS for 155€. Ι don’t think that 30€ is such a deal-breaker.

    I believe the lack of proper advertisement, exposure and “killer-apps” are the major reasons the PS Vita struggles. Also, the absent 3rd party support doesn’t help either…

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Clupula

    Wow. The Wii U is crashing and burning beyond even my lowest expectations. I don’t think the PS3 even did that badly in its first three months and that was pretty much universally acknowledged as a disaster.

    Nintendo should just start working on a next-gen system immediately to compete with the PS4/720 and cut their losses with the Wii U.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. G1GAHURTZ

    57k is abysmal.

    Looks like the Wii U is a complete flop in the US, so far.

    Nintendo needs a HUGE E3, something they haven’t managed since… Well, probably, ever.

    I agree with #3. The Wii U needs o be ditched and replaced with a proper, next gen console.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. daytripper

    I think it deserves these sales, no doubt I will labeled a hater

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Diingo

    Although the Wii U may dissolve, Nintendo shall live on as a publisher in the long run. They have an arsenal of franchises that the world still cherishes.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Erthazus

    Still it is not 0 but 57K.

    the question is, who buys this shit?

    WiiU is just a disaster. I said it since they showed it. How can you sell a system that has everything worse then in Xbox 360 or PS3 with the controller that does not have decent tech but uses old single touch screen.

    Is there any mobile device/smartphone these days that use Single touch screen?

    That’s good that this shit is going to fail.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. OmegaSlayer

    I’m with daytripper.
    I think every seasoned gamer could foresee this situation from day one
    If you remove the casual gamers, only Nintendo fanbase and tech geeks buy Nintendo machines.
    3rd party support is useless because Nintendo fans don’t support 3rd parties.
    It’s fun when you see things in numbers.
    Wii install base was 90 millions of consoles.
    The must play title on Wii was Xenoblade, the title everyone praises…do a search and check how much it sold in 2 years, how much it sold in Japan…then do some math to check the attach rate.
    Then check NiNoKuni’s data.
    Nintendo fans are actually…a species of gamer that lives on its own.
    How much are Bayonetta 2 (a title that will probably be PEGI 18)or project “X” are going to sell?

    I think that if Nintendo pulls off a Sega and start to develop for Sony and Microsoft on console, and keep manufacturing handhelds, it will make waaaaaaaay more money.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. FeaturePreacher

    The vita needs people to promote it that don’t hate it. There are plenty of games coming out for it. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Plus, Dead or Alive 5 Plus, Muramasa, Sly Cooper, Persona 4, Soul Sacrifice, Killzone Mercenary, Toukiden are a few. If Sony could get RockSteady to make a NightWing or perhaps Batman Beyond title for the Vita, that would help.

    As for the Wii U, the only thing that could save Nintendo is to start publishing their first party titles on the 360 and PS3, and perhaps later on the PS4 and NextBox. The Wii U is only going to serve people who want their 5 or so 1st party titles and I’m not sure how much of a future exists with that audience.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. OlderGamer

    Seems to me that Nintendo had better get a price cut asap. Really boils down to that. Gamers are a many flavored thing. The same ones standing in line for a PS4 and xbxnxt are not necisarily the same ones that are interested in WiiU. Some gamers ofc cross over, I know I do.

    But the WiiU can carve out a nice market for itself, I believe. But not at 300usd and 350usd. The system needs to be 250 with a pack in at the highest. It was priced alright at launch, lil high. Early adaptors are always willing to spend more.

    But it needs a price cut fast and I doubt that, given the jpn econ and the yen and a few other varribles, Nintendo can afford to drop the price much. Or very fast. I suspect Sony will be in a similer situation a few months after PS4 launch. Possibly MS too.

    Launches are the easy part. Sustaining them is hard. The months following launch are when the broken links in your fence start to show up.

    I know a lot of you guys are gloating, no prob. I didn’t build the thing. I don’t even own Nintendo stock. But trust me when I say system power and tablet like gamepad are NOT the problem. Game selection is not even the problem. It is all down to price. You can buy a tablet for 350usd. And Tablets are competing(and low end netbooks/laptops) most directly with WiiU users(not xb/ps). Nintendo has to make a sizable price gap between their system and said Tablets/Netbooks/laptops. Right now that hasn’t happened.

    Price is everything.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. Clupula

    A price cut would help but not save the Wii U. With a system that does not have tech any better than the PS3 or 360, unless they drop it down to $200 for the premium model, it’s not going to start selling well for them.

    Nintendo really should just go the Sega route and start developing for PS4/720.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. OlderGamer

    It has ZERO to do with tech. ZERO. The Wii didn’t sell like hotcakes because it had amazing mindblowing tech. It was priced as an impulse purchase and it had Wii Sports.

    The WiiU is just too expensive. The masses will not pay 300usd or 350usd for a new system. The dedicated gamers will. But the more casualy focesed, once in awhile gamers will not.

    High prices kill hardware. Look at 3DS and Vita launches. PS3 launch. And now WiiU launch. It has nothing to do with system power or brand loyality.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Clupula

    The Wii sold like hotcakes because Nintendo hyped it to soccer moms on Oprah.

    The masses will gladly pay $300-350 for a new system, but only if it’s a system that actually wows them.

    The Vita and 3DS launches were that way because they had no games. The Vita would have been a success, had Nintendo not undercut them. When they were on equal footing, the Vita was looking to be the easy victor.

    Price is a factor, but it’s not the #1 factor. But then again, I remember you predicting the Wii U would just blow everything away, saleswise, so I’m not sure why I’m even trying to argue with you.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. OlderGamer

    “The Vita would have been a success, had Nintendo not undercut them. When they were on equal footing, the Vita was looking to be the easy
    victor.”

    Very enlightening.

    Btw I never said Nintendo WiiU would blow everything away saleswise. I said just the oppisite in fact. I don’t think the WiiU will sell anything close to Wii numbers. I do think they will still be fine. Nintendo runs a bit differently then MS and Sony or even Sega did. But if a worse case plays out, yes Nintendo could go 3rd party. But I think Nintendo could have another N64 like gen and be just fine. 3DS can carry the company and help offset sluggish console sales.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. OlderGamer

    It is interesting to wonder what would happen if Nintendo stoped making consoles. I don’t think they will, but what if…

    Lots of us assume they would go 3rd party and put their games on MS/Sony systems. I am not so sure, maybe. But, I think they stay with handhelds. And then make PC games. Alot of JPN companies have been increasing their PC out put.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. manamana

    I do also think that it competes with iPad/mini for the casuals/kids. Last christmas was indeed a tablet win or 3DS. Seeing that it is higher priced than a PS360 those casuals who didn’t had one untill than, may have bought into those consoles, as they where cheaper and had lots of games for a reasonable price.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. Dragon246

    @Red,
    I doubt about vita man. Vita is around an year old now, whereas wiiu is just a few months old.
    That aside, both will definitely sink this year without a price cut. Vita will surely get a price drop on or before E3.
    Thing is, good 3rd party vita games sell really good, and I still haven’t heard a single pub saying that sales of a vita title were less than expectation, only praises from pubs like kadokawa, tecmo koei, ubisoft etc.
    Time will tell.

    #17 1 year ago
  18. daytripper

    I’ll admit I feel a kick up the backside with the sales would benefit Nintendo greatly. Nintendo is at its best in panic mode, look how they did well after a shocking start to the 3Ds.It’s not about gloating, that’s for kids, trolls and nerdasswar adults with issues.

    #18 1 year ago
  19. Francis O

    God, people in here are dumb. Sony is closer to being a 3rd party publisher than anybody else. They have to sell their US headquarters just to recover all the loses they have. People are hitting the panic button WAY to early. Sales will no doubt pick up when Nintendo actually releases GAMES for the system. Theres nothing to play…… sooooo why would people pick up the system?

    If December rolls around and the Wii U is still selling like this, then I will agree they have to do something, but bailing on the Wii U right now before Mario, Metroid, Zelda, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon come out is stupid… I mean there hasn’t even been a price cut yet.

    3 months in and people are saying drop the the system? As if Nintendo could make a new more powerful console out of thin air. It takes YEARS to do that stuff.

    But like I’ve said before….. lets wait till December. Power has nothing to do with it. GameCube was just as powerful as the Xbox 1 and PS2 and it got crushed in sales. Nintendo will be fine.

    #19 1 year ago
  20. Clupula

    @19 – That’s an amazingly skewed view on the Gamecube you got there. Gamecube came out during the same generation as the PS2 and original Xbox. It’s not like the Gamecube was Nintendo’s answer to the Saturn and PS1 and still got crushed. If Nintendo had done that, they probably would have been back to being #1, just by how far ahead and impressive the Gamecube would have seemed.

    The Gamecube came out at the same time as two system of fairly equal power and failed due to a lack of third party support, a lack of any media abilities (I think it is definitely arguable that the PS2 was largely responsible for the rise of DVD’s) and that controller thing it had…that looked like someone had left a Dreamcast controller and a Dualshock on top of a radiator with a bunch of crayons.

    #20 1 year ago
  21. Francis O

    #20 Clupula, people in here were saying the Wii U is not powerful enough, thats why I referenced the GameCube. Its not amazingly skewed. And I’m well aware of why the GameCube failed. I was just trying to make a point…..that power is not everything.

    I can see by your posts you completely skipped over the Vita and went straight to bashing the Wii U. Nintendo has no games releasing for the Wii U January or February…. why would there sales be high?

    Do you really think the sales are going to be like this when Mario Kart, Smash Bros, a 3D Mario (which are popular in the US), Bayonetta 2 and Nintendo’s other big first party games release? Your smoking something if you think that.

    You guys are overreacting. It going to take time, but the Wii U will be successful. It won’t sell like the Wii did, but it doesn’t have to. Nintendo is already back in profit, Sony can not say that. When was the last time you heard Nintendo selling there US headquarters to pay off debts? Or laying off staff when a game bombs at retail (Superbot). I think YOU have the skewed view on things. Panicking and overreacting before a system has chance.

    You were probably one of those early Doomsday 3DS people as well. Nintendo will be fine. Mark my word. They got the franchises to pull them out of this slump.

    #21 1 year ago
  22. OlderGamer

    Frankie +1

    #22 1 year ago
  23. deathm00n

    @21 From what I know Sony didn’t sold the headquarters to pay off debts, they didn’t told anything why they did that, it probably was to finance what’s getting announced in 5 days, probably PS4 as everyone is saying. And you really think there’s a lot more people that didn’t bought the WiiU and are waiting for the first party games? I don’t think so, people who like the first party in majority are already with the console, they are just waiting the game now I think.

    #23 1 year ago
  24. Clupula

    @23 – He’s living in denial. Anyone who actually cares about first party Nintendo games probably bought one already. But I can tell from his posts that he has a very obvious anti-Sony bias and to say anything about his precious Nintendo is like taking away a small child’s blankie.

    @21 – I skipped over the Vita because I don’t care about the Vita. And the Wii U is not powerful enough because it’s been released at a time when it’s going to be competing with the PS4 and 720 and will be trounced even more so than it is right now once they come out. If the Wii U had released, oh, two or three years ago, I think it would have been moderately successful.

    #24 1 year ago
  25. manamana

    @23 for what? Nothing there as of now. Everything still in the works and probably outed at E3 when sony and microsoft make their moves.

    #25 1 year ago
  26. manamana

    @24 “Anyone who actually cares about first party Nintendo games probably bought one already” no Zelda, no big Mario game, no Kart, no Metroid. What kind of first party games are Nintendo fans supposed to buy?

    #26 1 year ago
  27. Clupula

    My cousin bought the Wii U for Christmas for her 7 year old son. Do you know why? “He loves Mario Kart.”

    They don’t have to bring them out them for people to know they were coming. This is Nintendo. That dog only does a certain number of tricks and you know they’re coming. The Nintendo faithful bought their consoles already. I bet Francis X. Bushlad up there has a Wii U. Probably bought it first day.

    #27 1 year ago
  28. Gekidami

    Assuming that as soon as Nintendo releases a new Mario or Zelda their WiiU situation will turn around is nothing but wishful thinking from the fanboys. Sales will spike for a month or two, maybe more, then it’ll return to normal. A console needs a steady stream of games to keep people interested in the long run, that or a massive must-have game that’ll grab people for a long period of time like CoD’s online play. Nintendo alone can supply the WiiU with neither, and third parties are already losing interest, they’d have forgotten the console exists by the time the others are out.

    If you think 5 games are going to save the console for the next 6-7 years, then you’re pretty fucking stupid.

    #28 1 year ago
  29. Clupula

    @28 – Sometimes, I feel like, instead of the tablet controller, the Wii U should have come with safety scissors and glitter.

    #29 1 year ago
  30. G1GAHURTZ

    Maybe the sales were so low, because all the stores were sold out, and had no stock left…

    Trololololol…

    #30 1 year ago
  31. theevilaires

    @ 1 just because your cheap ass can’t afford one doesn’t mean others won’t. SONY just has to release more games to give people a reason to buy one just like the Wii U. Stop with all your doom theories because you can’t afford one. You’re sounding like all the fools who talked shit about the PS3 back in 06/07 because they couldn’t afford one.

    Get a job you prick and stop crying.

    #31 1 year ago
  32. theevilaires

    Holy shit LMFAO :D :D :D #19 is the Nintendo version of Gadzooks! Wake up out of your denial kiddo!

    #20 You said that brilliantly :)

    #32 1 year ago
  33. Dragon246

    Obviously, for hardcore ninty fans roaming around here, wiiu was day one buy, but they need “convincing” to buy the real next-gen consoles.
    Face it, hardcore fans already bought the thing. If you really think a new mario rehash or zelda will save it, you are sadly mistaken.
    It needs a price cut asap, along with vita.

    #33 1 year ago
  34. Phoenixblight

    Its not the price that is the problem it’s the lack of Nintendo being able to evolve with the market and being tied to retail and physical, and lack of software.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186741/At_57K_sold_Wii_Us_January_performance_is_historically_abysmal.php#.UR53t6W840U

    #34 1 year ago
  35. Francis O

    @Clupula,
    I have nothing against Sony, the fact is they are closer to becoming a third party games publisher than Nintendo. Sony’s game division doesn’t make any money. Sony had to sell their US headquarter! Is Nintendo selling their headquarters?

    I’m not in denial of anything. Yes, Smash Bros, Zelda, Mario Kart, and other big first party games will improve the sales.

    If you think otherwise… then Your in Denial.

    #35 1 year ago
  36. Dragon246

    “Sony’s game division doesn’t make any money.”
    Yeah right…..
    You really are living in denial. Check their latest figures.
    Oh, and expect +1 from same user again.

    #36 1 year ago
  37. dreamcastnews

    Christ, loads of shit being spouted here!

    I don’t ‘get’ the Nintendo hate? I’m sure some of you point at the Wii as the ‘downfall’ (lol) of Nintendo, but look what happens when Nintendo decides to cater for the more ‘hardcore’ (double lol) audience – you all don’t want to know and hope they just make games for the other systems.

    Nintendo really can’t win, if you aren’t into Nintendo consoles then fine, move along and wait for Sony or Microsoft to throw the next scrap of info. I think true (hardcore, lol) gamers own all systems regardless of brand anyway to get the best and unbiased opinion of a system, which I’m guessing most of the smack talkers here simply don’t do, too cheap or too ignorant I can’t work out though.

    Seriously though, why is there such a competition between console owners? Who cares! I bet some of you are married and with kids too – it all seems a little childish to be flaming over different pieces of plastic.

    Honestly, we’ve all the decorum of lager-louts chanting ‘we was robbed’.

    #37 1 year ago
  38. Dark

    Nintendo thought the casuals would eat Wii U up like they did with the Wii

    I think the wii u , is goning to be gamecube all over again
    and things will get really ugly soon.

    #38 1 year ago
  39. theevilaires

    No Nintendo thought they could win back the Hardcore with Wii U and bring the casuals from Wii along. Thats why this console is on par with 360 and PS3 graphically and not the next evolutionary step beyond. The hardcore will never accept another Nintendo console as their main console and it will always be a secondary one.

    all those casuals who jumped on the Wii band wagon like flies on shit won’t do the same. I fully expect Nintendo to counter this by releasing a new console that is on par with the PS4/720 2 years after their launch. Nintendo is in a deep ass hole. They have to keep their casuals while try their hardest to bring back the hardcore audience. They’ve fucked themselves so hard and what goes up must come down eventually.

    Long Live PlayStation! :)

    #39 1 year ago
  40. Phoenixblight

    @39

    No one was aiming for the core or hardcore. Nintendo was hoping to bring third party back to their side of the fence because COnsole manufacturers make money off the third party and the licensing.

    #40 1 year ago
  41. dreamcastnews

    Those who owned a GameCube though, know that it had some fantastic exclusive software, the N64 was by far a worse console. Sticking with carts was the genesis of Nintendo’s thinking today – it’s funny how such a PR disaster of a console is fondly remembered to this day, I seem to remember the ’64 only launched with 2 or 3 games but again, had some brilliant games once it was said and done.

    We need to give the Wii U time, if after a year it’s still like this then sure – it won’t get any better. But the bigger guns haven’t even been seen yet, I’m positive the Xbox and PS4 will suffer slightly for games for a little while after launch but they’ll get into the swing of things once the hardware is mastered and the extra resources are in place.

    The Wii U has the potential to co-exist with the new machines as a secondary console, it’ll provide a different enough approach to the other two – I’m not even sure if Pikmin 3 for example, would benefit from powerhouse graphics like the XBOX and PS4 can achieve, it isn’t really Nintendo’s back to create ‘ultra real’ looking graphics aside from Metroid and Zelda (maybe) I can’t think of many franchises of theirs where it would truly be a game changer, I’m not saying graphics aren’t important because let’s face facts – we all want a ‘wow! Look at THAT!’ Moment from our consoles, I believe Nintendo can achieve this; albeit on a lower scale with some of their later games that we see for the first time in HD.

    #41 1 year ago
  42. theevilaires

    “No one was aiming for the core or hardcore. Nintendo was hoping to bring third party back to their side of the fence because COnsole manufacturers make money off the third party and the licensing”.

    @40 Ummm yea for the hardcore. Hence Batman Armored edition, Assassins Creed 3, and Mass Effect 3. What the hell are you talking about. The Wii U is all about delivering what the hardcore audience wanted in a Nintendo console after the gamecube. Why else would they make it to attract 3rd parties.

    #42 1 year ago
  43. Phoenixblight

    @42

    Yeah and anyone that has played those can tell you those were horrible ports. THe publishers had given those games to studios that port games to remake those games specifically for that system because it is cheaper and it allows 3rd party publishers to see how it will do.

    #43 1 year ago
  44. theevilaires

    @43 well what do you expect its a new console getting ports from two consoles that have been out for years. The new tech takes time to get use to, but still those games are targeted for the hardcore. The system is made for both demographics the casual as you can see still use wii motes with the system and the hardcore as you can tell by the 360 rip off controller Nintendo is calling the pro (which is on sale btw at Target for $35 this week everyone who has a Wii U, I got an extra one myself :)

    #44 1 year ago
  45. Phoenixblight

    @45

    THat controller is not aimed at the hardcore. I have played with it and its the most uncomfortable thing I have played with. I rather just have the 360 controller then use that thing, not to mention Nintendo’s online service feeling tacked on and making you jump hurtles just to play with friends across the web. If their aim was hardcore or even those that play on PS3 or 360 they have lost the mark entirely.

    #45 1 year ago
  46. OlderGamer

    “What many people do doubt – with good, if sometimes exaggerated, reasons – is Sony’s ability to make that box relevant to a wide audience of consumers, to attract the very best of development talent to it and to turn it into a must-have device, ”

    “The problem consoles face in the next generation isn’t that people are playing simple casual games on phones – it’s that developers of complex, interesting and engrossing games are bringing them to phones, tablets and PCs rather than jumping through the ludicrous hoops it takes to get a game onto a console.”

    “Given the drastic changes in management and direction we’ve seen in the past half-decade, I very much doubt that we’re going to get a repeat of the bombastic, hardware-focused announcement of the PS3 – the opening shots of a specification war that turned out to be an irrelevant sideshow, as PS3 and Xbox 360 ended up evenly matched for all intents and purposes, and Wii happily trounced the pair of them in sales anyway. If, however, next week’s show really is all “look how shiny our polygons are!”, it’ll be cause to seriously worry about whether Sony has a future in this business at all.”

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-15-playstation-4-must-demolish-the-walled-garden

    Why the Sony bit in this thread?

    Because it fits. It demenstrates how things and expectations have changed. No one knows what happens next. How PS or XB will do. And the marklet is fluid, no one lest of all arm chair pundants in a game forum know the fate of WiiU. 3DS launch was bad too, now it is selling well.

    I think really it kind of comes down to trying to anticipate and keep up with an industry that is changing quickly. What will work next five years from now is anyones guess. Doing things the same way they were done five years ago is foolish. Long time readers know I have been bitching about outdated console biz models for a long time now.

    It isn’t what your system can do, it is how your system does it.

    WiiU delivers HD. From a tech stand point that is all it needs to do. It has online. It expands on traditional controls with GamePad. It features strong living room co-op. It has a well done online store front. Those are things that matter.

    What it doesn’t have right now is a price point that works.

    What about 3rd parties?

    They are important. But putting CoD on a Nintendo system has never been key to anything. Nintendo hasn’t been a relevent 3rd party hot spot since SNES. The game world was very JPNse back then. Nintendo still gets heavy JPN support…for the Gameboy systems. Yet every gen so called “real gamers” forcast Nintendo Doom due to lack of 3rd party support. It isn’t that Nintendo doesn’t want 3rd parties. Just that they don’t need them to survive.

    What will MS do?

    Sony?

    No idea.

    Somewhat interesting to watch and find out.

    But I will say the sage word once more. It is key to Nintendo, Sony and MS. or anyone else. The word is PRICE.

    It trumps everything.

    #46 1 year ago
  47. dreamcastnews

    No one would leave their Xbox or PlayStation to play a game like COD or Fifa on a Nintendo system. It’s too late for that I reckon I can’t really blame them for trying to use some different controller method to make the games stand out – for better or worse.

    #47 1 year ago
  48. The_Red

    @Dragon246
    I’d love to see Vita make a comeback but so far, Sony has done nothing to give me hope. With PS4 on the horizon, I think it will be the PSP-PS3 situation at best for them.

    #48 1 year ago
  49. Clupula

    The pro controller was designed ESPECIALLY for games like Call of Duty. Are people forgetting Activision refusing to make Wii U ports if there wasn’t a controller like that? Nintendo have even said they were trying to get the hardcore crowd back with the Wii U.

    #49 1 year ago
  50. Phoenixblight

    @49

    Trying and actually doing are two separate things as I said they lost that mark entirely.

    #50 1 year ago
  51. ManuOtaku

    I agree with OG, i think it needs a price cut, the economy is not what once was, therefore accesible prices will spice sales for this type of devices, including vita and the future ps4 and 720, price will be a big issue.

    Having said that i think the Wii was better potisioned in that regard, and it sold that well because it had a good price of entry and it didnt require a new HDtv set, that combination of factors incide a lot, especially compare with the other two, that cost a lot more and did require a new HD tv set, of course the motion control and the blue ocean strategy did had a lot to do as well, but i think this also was an important factor.

    And this is something the WiiU lacks and attractive price point, i alwyas had said that the vita memory cards were overpriced if you add the vita price, and that it is a factor for not selling that good, and i believe nintendo made the same mistake not adding the pro controller for free with the console, especially if you are aiming at the hardcore crowd that needs to buy this controller separetally, which increase a lot the price of the console, also the lack of great nintendo IPS.

    I think with games and a bundle of sorts that address this, it will do fine, like the 3ds and the vita if they go with the price cut of the memory cards and the vita as well.

    p.s i mentioned the memory cards because in some regions the free bundles are not available.

    #51 1 year ago
  52. Dragon246

    First things first, only people with limited knowledge and rose tinted glasses feel launches of wiiu , ps3 and 360 can be compared.
    Here is a fact, all are almost equal at this point of launch, but its really worse for wiiu as both 360 and ps3 had severe disadvantages at launch, namely lack of supply and high cost respectively.
    WiiU doesn’t have ANY of those problems, still its lagging.
    Price cut is really necessary, without that wiiu will be in a bucketload of trouble.
    Also, if people really next 212121th copy of “insert game here” will save wiiu, you are sadly mistaken. They didn’t save gamecube, even vita will only be saved after a price cut.
    Wiiu has a historically weak launch, unless ninty pulls another price cut like 3ds , things look really bad.

    http://gamasutra.com/view/news/186741/At_57K_sold_Wii_Us_January_performance_is_historically_abysmal.php#.UR-tUvIyUVQ

    #52 1 year ago
  53. ManuOtaku

    52 Dragon Nintendo is lossing money with the WiiU they are only recouping those losses somehow with selling one game with each sold console, they did stated this, and i think nitendo IPS will help somehow of course this combined with a price cut, i think is a combination of the two, and also giving free the pro controller with each new boxed console.

    #53 1 year ago
  54. Dragon246

    @Manu,
    I am all but sure that games don’t save a system. Both gamecube and dreamcast had great games. So why weren’t they best-sellers?
    And ok, I get your point, but I never stated otherwise. Ninty may have been selling it at a loss, but still it isn’t selling. That gamepad was a big (and costly) gamble and it doesnt seem to be paying off.

    #54 1 year ago
  55. Phoenixblight

    @54

    “I am all but sure that games don’t save a system. ”

    Bologney. That is the only reason why people get a system. WiiU only had ports of games that were release 6 months to a year prior and 2 exclusive.

    Gamecube had barely any 3rd party support and people were impressed with PS2′s variety of titles and 3rd party support.

    Xbox is a good example of games selling a system. Halo was enough of a reason for people to pick up that system.

    #55 1 year ago
  56. ManuOtaku

    The topic i believe will make an interesting investigation, i think there are a lot of reasons a sum of its parts, but one can agree that games can make a company success in this business, lets see the new arrivals, sony and microsoft, sony with the ps1 did had a lot of the best games and series coming from nintendo becuase of the cartridge issue, their high cost licensing etc, that made games like final fantasy, metal gear, resident evil , etc only appear on sony, certanly the CD ROM based format helped too, because it was a cool thing at that time and a better format, but without those games or if those games would also come on nintendo it wouldnt had the succees it had IMHO, again with microsoft without halo it wouldnt had the moderate success it did had, i think games are and important factor.

    Although iam a firm believer of the sume of its parts like games, price, services, extra added features, consumer treatment, etc, is a combination of all this, but the two more important ones are price and games IMHO.

    The dreamcast is a weird example because it was for other reasons, mistakes done by SEGA which put them in a bad shape economically speaking and also the big buzz and success of the PS2, if nintendo wasnt dominant on the handheld front on that time, and had made some mistakes economically speaking, would had share the same fate, i think it was because in the end ps2 had the better games, and a lot of them something the dreamcast couldnt compete, although having a decent list of games, but it was not comparable with the ps2,though, high quantity and high quality of games, something the dreamcast, gamecube and xbox lacked, they only had quality games, but not in the same amount IMHO.

    #56 1 year ago
  57. Dragon246

    @Manu,
    We will see then :)

    Also, I really feel some people are getting desperate now. Throwing Sony in a ninty article is just what I expect from people like him.
    Of course he missed the ninty sales articles though.
    Amazingly, ninty has the privilege of being the closest walled market in existence, and he missed that too.
    Oh, and an extract from the mentioned article-
    “The firm has been more open than its rivals up until now”
    Really, he even selected particular lines that suits his desires. No wonder this line didn’t featured in the big quotes from the article.

    #57 1 year ago
  58. Clupula

    @54 – See, Dragon, here’s where I’m going to completely disagree with you. Software sells hardware. Otherwise, why did the PS3 only start seeing its fortunes increase when Metal Gear Solid 4 was released in the States and Tales of Vesperia in Japan? I bought a PS3, not because I liked Sony as a company, but because I wanted to be able to continue to play God of War, Twisted Metal, and Metal Gear. The people who already bought their Wii U’s did so because of the promise of first party Nintendo games.

    Do I think that those games are going to save the Wii U? No, because I think most people who want to play Mario and Zelda already shelled out for the system. But if those games weren’t eventually coming, I can’t see how any Wii U’s would have been sold, at all.

    #58 1 year ago
  59. Clupula

    In fact, if games didn’t sell hardware, Microsoft would have never engaged in their early 360 strategy of forcing previous Playstation-exclusives to become multiplatform.

    #59 1 year ago

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