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Microsoft responds to Xbox 720 ‘always-on’ net connection rumour

Thursday, 7 February 2013 12:30 GMT By Dave Cook

Xbox 720 is rumoured to require a constant internet connection to verify games and to block both pre-owned and piracy – see our report on the rumour here. Microsoft has today responded to the claim.

Microsoft passed a note to OXM that read, “The manufacturer has responded to our mails. “Microsoft does not comment on rumours or speculation. We are always thinking about what is next for our platform, but we don’t have anything further to share at this time.”

So that’s not exactly a no, is it? Our own sources have verified this as true. Read what they had to say here.

Meanwhile Sony’s PS4 is rumoured to include NFC tech to bind game discs to one console. It seems that both parties want to crush pre-owned game sales under their mighty boots.

What do you think?

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31 Comments

  1. FinalStar

    I think that this sort of non-news isn’t worth reporting, but hey, anything for a click. What happened to the high standards, or does that only count for (against) booth babes?

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Hcw87

    This is allways their standard answer when someone asks them about their supposed next system.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. SameeR_Fisher

    They will both get fucked if they do so, for real, you see Piracy isn’t going away, and they are shooting themselves in the foot.

    For one gamers will buy nothing that gets a rating less than 9, I used to get games that were rated 6 back in the PS2 era, now I am more between 8 to 10, if next gen blocks the used games, then it will be 9 only games.

    2nd hackers will find a way to pirate the system, it WILL happen, and I will go with it if they block the used games, cause this is stupid, I don’t have the money to buy 3 games a month, sometimes my friend buy a game and I buy another, then we exchange them, and they want to block that ?!, No thanks, FUCK you.

    What if 2 brothers have 2 consoles, they need to buy the game twice ?!, Where the fuck is the logic in that !!!.

    Game stores will be affected so much with such move as well.

    I am sure for the language, but the whole thing about blocking used games is getting on my nerves.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Moonwalker1982

    @2

    Exactly. It’s the exact same. So honestly….not worth it to report imo.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Karooo

    Haha.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Erthazus

    Always DRM is just horrible for a console.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Gnosis

    Well, no answer is still an answer. It’s not that kind of rumor you can simply ignore and MS not trying to deny it sounds to me like they’re AT LEAST considering it as an option. If not more.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Moonwalker1982

    @6

    I don’t mind always being online, cause when i go gaming on my 360 i always want to be online too. But it’s going to suck bigtime when your internet provider is having problems and you can’t use the console. That would be pathetic.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Fin

    This really doesn’t need its own story. An update to the original at the most.

    At the least, the headline should include the words “no comment”.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. MadFlavour

    They can go and fuck themselves.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. orakaa

    Well, even if we’re still on the phase of rumors, they didn’t say no, indeed. Which MIGHT mean they are considering it or that they will put it on Xbox720.

    If it was out of question, they would have said it: it would have made them “shine” a bit, or at least calm minds until they make a full announcement. Look at what happened at Gamestop’s stock value after this rumors arrived. A “no” would have calmed the markets (at least for their partners).

    It’s really sad to see console brands have so little care for the ones that helped them and brought them where they are today. At a point when video games were not mainstream yet, if there hadn’t been specialized shops, the media wouldn’t have grown that much. Same goes for gamers.

    The worst part is that they will present this feature as something that benefits the gamer… but how and where does the gamer benefit from restrained access to their games?

    #11 2 years ago
  12. hives

    If both consoles will have that… I’ll just upgrade my PC and I’ll borrow a console from one of my non-PC gamer friends when some fine exclusives will be released….

    #12 2 years ago
  13. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    This is what Microsoft says to literally anything you ask them if the answer is something you don’t want to talk about. Word for word.

    You could ask them what flavour ice-cream they prefer and you’ll get the same answer. Word for word.

    This is not news.

    Seriously: Google that whole reply.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. karma

    If this rumour does indeed turn out to be true, not only will I not buy either the Mirco$oft or $ony next gen consoles, but I will go out of my way to bad mouth them at every possible opportunity. And the reason is because I’m a 360 gamer who can barely afford to game as it is in this shitty economy, and these types of limitations will force me out of AAA gaming completely. Such an arsehole thing to do to gamers like me who have been gaming for more than 30 years and have given the best part of everything we have ever earned to game companies like MS, Sony and Ninty, and this is how two of the top companies repay us for putting them where they are now? Well FUCK those money grubbing arsholes!

    #14 2 years ago
  15. orakaa

    @14: well said, sir :)

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Myth

    I’m fine with it, like stated in the other thread.

    Used game sales is a parasite that doesn’t benefit the content creators at all, and therefore increases the prices of new games and drives down the number of new games being developed.

    If we are to have the ability to trade games, we need to be able to do it in a way that benefits the people who create them – not just the store where you do the trading.

    (always on DRM seems unlikely, we’ll get an authentication demand instead – I think we’ll be fairly close to the Steam-model on consoles)

    #16 2 years ago
  17. G1GAHURTZ

    Yeah, well, you all moaned about Diablo 3, but you still bought it, didn’t ya!?

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Judicas

    Gamestop publicly said months ago if ps4/x720 had something preventing pre-owned games they wouldn’t stock any system that does this. Microsoft/Sony’s console sales would go down considerably I would imagine if this was indeed true, and some other retailers who dabble in pre-owned sales might not stock the systems either.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. DrDamn

    @18
    Who relies on who more though? Brick and mortar retail is dying for lots of reasons. Can they really afford to take that sort of stance? What are they going to sell instead?

    #19 2 years ago
  20. orakaa

    @16: this is the same kind of analyst bullsh*t I kept reading when I was working in strategy consulting companies years ago.

    Many people don’t have that much money and sell their used games to finance their future purchases. It’s the same mechanism as old cars being sold to buy new ones. I can assure you that if it wasn’t possible to sell old cars anymore, constructors would really see lower sales.

    This is greed, nothing more. You can’t expect to prevent second hand game markets AND keep people buying the same amount of games. People DON’T have this money. If this system happen, sales will drop, primarily because people won’t have the money to buy as much games as before, and in 5 years from now analysts will blame poor sales on smartphones/tablets/whatever but won’t acknowledge the fact that they will have scr*wed this up themselves

    #20 2 years ago
  21. OlderGamer

    Walmart would love to use the advert: Exclusivly at Walmart. Gamestop honestly doesn’t matter as much as you might think. Not to the average everyday person, and collectivly, they far out number the core gamers.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. DrDamn

    @21
    Agree. What Gamestop offers over the Walmart etc is meant to be a decent selection and “knowledgeable” staff. The staff aren’t so knowledgeable and if they are anything like Game the selection has been tailing off for years. Online retail is covering that off too.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Old MacDonald

    Hey, VG247 & Dave Cook: I have a problem with this article.

    The problem is not that you’re reporting on non-news. That’s fair enough.

    The problem is that you’re reporting on non-news in a way that makes it seem like you have some actual news to show us.

    With your headline and teaser text, you are giving the impression that they have addressed the rumours.

    You know full well that this is Microsoft’s standard reply. And, as it explicitly states, they have NOT responded to the rumour in question.

    You’re essentially tricking us into clicking the link. That kind of tactics is not appreciated, and it will come back to bite you.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Clupula

    Not to mention, many places, like New York City, have managed to keep Wal-Mart out of our lives. No 720′s in Gamestop means that no one in a city of 11,000,000 will be able to buy the system unless we go out to Long Island or upstate or order through the mail.

    How many people do you think will be willing to do that? Some, yeah, but they’d be costing themselves thousands of sales.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. TheBlackHole

    Firstly, it’s not always on, it’s for activation. Secondly, this is a natural process between boxed product and digital download.

    Do you still expect to be able to sell or trade the game you download from xbox live? Steam? The iStore? No.

    The only difference between a digital product bought online and a digital product bought on disc is the method of delivery. Why should the actual content (or its use) be any different?

    #25 2 years ago
  26. ps4some

    @20 Well said sir ! If this happens I’ll be buying about 3 games a year rather than the 20 or so I get through now. Hey publishers ! All those second hand game sales aren’t going to turn into new game purchases. They’re just going to vanish along with some new game purchases too and you’ll also have less people to sell dlc to.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Eyelekin

    Always on DRM, barring pre-owned games, 2011 technology…

    I had been considering picking up a new console for the same reasons as the old gen; chilling on the sofa with a few mates who brought some games (and beer) round.

    With wireless HDMI and a plethora of hardware coming out that brings your PCs computing and gfx power to your big TV with proper controllers, I really see no reason to shell out £500+ one one of these. MS really need to pull something big out of the hat in the next 6 months, and I don’t mean a new version of Xbox Live or social media integration. Nobody’s going to buy a next-gen console for sharing angry birds scores with their aunt.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. Kelsjb85

    I really don’t care i’m use to it because i play pc time to time and it’s the same thing. I have all the consoles, but never bought used games not to say there is anything wrong with it i just never did. This is still a rumor until ms and sony confirm all this.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Cobra951

    @25: You have it exactly backward. Boxed products have been around forever, and they carry with them certain expectations, one of them being well covered by the doctrine of first sale. You should be able to sell your used games, just like any other product. Digital distribution is a new paradigm entirely. Why should physical media suddenly get slapped with its limitations? If anything, digitally distributed products need a way into the used marketplace, and some countries have ruled legally to that effect.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Keivz

    Lots of comments and an interesting topic but I have to agree with posters 1, 2 ,23, et. al. I find this article’s title very misleading. Anyone who knows anything about Microsoft’s policy on commenting on rumors is ‘we don’t comment on rumors’. So for them to do otherwise, as the headline suggests, is HUGE news. Come to find out it was just a dirty trick. I’ve seen similar tactics here before but this is just low. For shame.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. PCFreak

    What we will do with the new xbox console after Zombie Apocalypse there will be no internet after that.and this mean no fun.think about it.

    ____________________
    Call of Duty Modern Warfare

    #31 2 years ago

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    Frozenbyte has announced Trine 3: The Artifacts of Power will launch on Steam Early Access next week. The early access title will run you $19.99/€19.99/£14.99 and you can purchase it come April 21. If the short video above isn’t enough to tempt you, a video showing nine minutes of gameplay was released last week.

  • Journey, Flower, flOw trilogy to be released this summer on PS4 in 1080p at 60fps

    A remastered version of the Journey Collector’s Edition is coming to PlayStation 4 from ThatGameCompany. According to Gamespot, the trilogy will contain PS3 titles flOw, Flower and Journey on one disc, and it will run in 1080p at 60fps. A standalone version of Journey will arrive close to the trilogy’s release on PS4 through the […]

  • Here’s a few screenshots of PS4-exclusive Alienation from Housemarque

    Screenshots for Alienation, Housemarque’s four-player co-op PlayStation 4 exclusive, have been released and you can have a look at them in the gallery we’ve posted. Announced at gamescom 2014, the game features three main character classes, weapon customization, and various team set-ups. The game has players shooting at things with twin-stick gameplay with a top […]

  • Star Wars: Battlefront website notes November 17 release, teaser video and first image hit

    The first Star Wars: Battlefront image has been posted, and apparently it appeared on the official website at some point this morning. The game will also be released on November 17, according to the official website’s source code. The release date is noted in the code located in the image below. Props to Gematsu for […]

  • Mortal Kombat X is the fastest selling entry in the series to date

    Mortal Kombat X has sold faster than any other game in the series to date, making it the “biggest launch” in Mortal Kombat history, according to creator Ed Boon. Speaking in a series of tweets, Boon said both the mobile and console versions have “literally millions of players getting online” resulting in the servers being […]

  • Shadow of the Beast reboot resurfaces with some new screenshots

    The Shadow of the Beast reboot, which was announced in 2013, has show its face once more with early screenshots. Screenshots of the Amiga classic remake show off the Karamoon’s desert and the main character, Aarbron. According Matt Birch, CEO and founder of Heavy Spectrum, the team is currently hard at work on the “core […]

  • Halo: Spartan Strike arrives on Windows 8, iOS and Steam today

    Halo: Spartan Strike is now available on Windows 8, Steam, iOS devices and Windows 8 phones. The mobile top-down shooter will run you $5.99. Halo: Spartan Strike tells a new story in the Halo universe set during the events of Halo 2 on New Mombasa in 2552. Those playing on Windows 8 devices can compete […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 video shows highlights from the Episdoe Duscae demo

    Square Enix has released a Final Fantasy 15 video which shows highlights from the Episode Duscae demo included with launch editions of Final Fantasy Type-0 HD. FFT0 has shipped over one million copies worldwide, and a player feedback survey is available for the Duscae demo until May 19. Final Fantasy Type-0 HD is available on PlayStation […]

  • Bloodborne has sold over 155,000 digital units since release – SuperData

    PlayStation 4 exclusive Bloodborne has sold over 155,000 digital units since it was released on March 24, according to SuperData’s latest report. The figure produced by SuperData is worldwide and comes on the heels of the one million units sold announcement earlier this week. “After the release of the beautiful but terribly short game The […]

  • Nintendo US eShop update: Mega May returns, Super Smash Bros. update, Mii Fighter costumes

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with a Super Smash Bros. update and the StreetPass Mii Plaza games Battleground Z and Ultimate Angler. The update is rather detailed, and a bit larger than normal, and you may wish to pay special attention to the activities listed. Here’s the full update: StreetPass […]

  • Here’s your first look at Sony boss Shuhei Yoshida in Super Time Force Ultra

    Sony Worldwide boss Shuhei Yoshida is a playable character in Super Time Force Ultra, and today, Capy Games has provided a couple images of the man himself in the game. Yoshida was announced as a playable character in the game during Sony’s PlayStation Experience event back in December 2014. The PS4 and Vita version will […]

  • The wait is almost over – The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has gone gold

    CD Projekt RED has announced the news we’ve all been waiting to hear: The Witcher 3 has gone gold. This means Geralt’s latest, and possibly last, adventure has been sent to the factory to be pressed into lovely gaming discs. “We worked so damn hard over the past three years to bring you this game,” […]

  • Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture is a “couple weeks out from beta,” new trailer

    Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture is just a “couple of weeks out from beta,” according to development studio The Chinese Room, and a release date will be announced “shortly.” To give you an idea of how development has been coming along since it was announced at gamescom 2013, the team has released a new trailer […]

  • GTA 5 on PC looks incredible, but I can’t recommend it to console players

    As much as Matt Martin loves GTA 5, he can’t recommend upgrading from console to PC just for a slick editing suite and even prettier graphics. “This is the third time in as many years that I’ve bought GTA 5.” I have a Grand Theft Auto 5 obsession, as I’m sure you know if you’ve […]

  • The Forest engine updated to Unity 5, major graphical and gameplay improvements made

    The Forest’s latest patch added substantial improvements to the game. The Forest version 0.16 is now live on Steam with plenty of new additions. The game has been ported over to Unity engine version 5. The plant and skin shaders have been replaced or rewritten. Many other visual tweaks have been made, such as model […]

  • Star Wars: Battlefront banner leaks from Star Wars Convention

    EA has been setting up the Battlefront booth at Star Wars Celebration, and one leaked picture shows what could be the game’s main art. Someone on Reddit posted a picture of the game banner at EA’s booth. Here it is: Lots of things happening here. There’s a Star Destroyer in the distance, TIE Fighters and […]

  • Get GTA 5 working with Oculus Rift using this tool

    There’s a way you can play GTA 5 in VR if you own an Oculus Rift Dev Kit and have a bit of cash to spare. VorpX, the go-to program for adding VR support to games has received an update recently to support GTA 5. This is far from perfect, as it only translates the […]

  • FIFA Ultimate Team: week of April 15 team revealed

    This week’s Team of the Week is now available for anyone to challenge in FIFA Ultimate Team. The team members get selected each week based on their performance during the weekend matches. You can fire up FIFA Ultimate Team on any platform and challenge this squad. You’ll also find some Team of the Week items […]

  • Deus Ex: Mankind Divided will let you stealth all encounters, including bosses

    Deus Ex: Mankind Divided will bring back one of the original game’s major features. Deus Ex: Human Revolution is considered by many to be a great game and worthy of bearing the franchise name. One of its grating issues though was its boss fights. You only had one way to fight them: be confrontational. The […]

  • Project Cars PC specs and supported wheels announced

    The release date of Project Cars is inching ever closer and more details have been revealed to answer all your burning questions. Project Cars developer Slightly Mad Studios has revealed the full list of supported steering wheels on all platforms, as well as the minimum and recommended PC specs. Minimum specs CPU – 2.66 GHz […]

  • GTA 5 gets custom FOV mod on PC

    Those not satisfied with GTA 5′s built-in field of view slider can use a new mod to push the number even further. The PC versions of GTA 5 – just like its PS4 and Xbox One counterparts – lets you switch between third and first-person view in shooting and driving. The game has an FOV […]

  • Win! GTA 5 on PC!

    Want to win a Steam key for Grand Theft Auto 5 on PC? Just enter here. GTA 5 released on PC this week and is going down a storm. We like it a lot, which is why we’re giving away a Steam code for Rockstar’s latest. All you need to do is enter your email […]

  • GTA 5 topples Skyrim’s record for highest concurrent players on Steam

    Not factoring in Valve games, GTA 5 is the new king of concurrent player numbers on Steam. GTA 5 is very popular on PC, even more popular than games like Skyrim in its heyday. The number of concurrent players for GTA 5 has peaked today at 301,246. This makes it the only non-Valve game to […]

  • Mortal Kombat X: what does a modern fighting game look like?

    Mortal Kombat continues to evolve as NetherRealm adds RPG systems and daily challenges to a solid fighting game, says Sherif Saed. “Mortal Kombat X takes many cues from games like Destiny, Call of Duty, and GTA Online with hourly, daily and weekly events.” For as many of its familiar facets, Mortal Kombat X has enough […]

  • J-Stars Victory VS+ coming west in June – new trailer

    J-Stars Victory VS+ will make the jump (see what I did there) to the west after all. J-Stars Victory VS+ is the western title for the fighting game which stars characters from a variety of Shonen Jump-published manga. Bandai Namco has announced the fighter will release in Europe on June 26 and in the Americas […]

  • Codemasters F1 license good through 2016

    Codemasters has at least one more F1 game in it. F1 2015 isn’t out yet, so Codemasters is naturally not talking about what it might get up to in the future. We do know what it can get up to, though; Codemasters’ Steven Embling told Videogamer has the option to continue the series. “We have […]

  • Project Cars has pretty deep graphics options on consoles

    Project Cars offers players a wide variety of ways to customise their graphic settings on PS4 and Xbox One. Project Cars is a graphics showcase and all early indications suggest it’s going to be one of the best-looking games out there. Slightly Mad’s commitment to graphics seems to go deeper than making things pretty, though: […]

  • Super Smash Bros. patch nerfs Diddy Kong – report

    Super Smash Bros. 3DS and Wii U is great but Diddy Kong is a beast and must be stopped. The latest Super Smash Bros. 3Ds and Wii U patch seems to have nerfed Diddy Kong, a character so over-powered that serious tournament players generate controversy by choosing to use him. Nintendo doesn’t publish patch notes, […]

  • Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel developer shuttered

    Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel developer 2K Australia has been closed down. Kotaku broke the news, and also had word from an anonymous source, who said that all staff have been let go. 2K responded to our request for comment with the following statement: We can confirm we have taken steps to begin the studio closure process […]

  • Samorost 3 trailer shows Amanita still in fine form

    Samorost 3 looks as delicately beautiful as its siblings. Samarost 3 developer Amanita Design has a reputation for gorgeous, slightly surreal world building. This new trailer for its latest adventure looks just as if not more lovely than the previous Samarost games and Botanicula. Samarost 3 is coming to Mac and PC later this year, […]

  • Amnesia dev’s new project SOMA now in beta

    SOMA is nearly here and I am torn between excitement and horrified dread. SOMA is the latest horror project from Frictional, the team behind Amnesia: The Dark Descent. We’re pretty excited to see what Frictional comes up with next, and we won’t have too long to wait, apparently; the developer has announced that SOMA is […]

  • Steam Guard mobile authenticator now in beta testing

    Steam is now testing its latest security measure. Steam helps you protect your account by offering two-factor authentication, a solution so beautifully elegant and effective that it’s astounding every gaming network doesn’t do the same (looking at you, Sony). Valve’s version is called Steam Guard, and it works via email. This isn’t always super convenient, […]

  • Godzilla battles Mothra in new trailer

    Godzilla lets you stomp around cities and battle classic kaiju. I’m in. Godzilla is coming to PlayStation 3 and PS4 in early July, but we haven’t seen a great deal of it since its December reveal. The new trailer below gives you an idea of just what Natsume has done with one of the biggest […]

  • Tales of Zestiria to launch this year – new trailer

    Tales of Zestiria continues Bandai Namco’s delightful new habit of bringing the popular JRPG series to the west before the shine wears off. Tales of Zestiria is coming west in northern autumn, the publisher has announced. That’s not a bad turnaround, given it first hit Japan in January, and localisation of text-heavy titles is expensive […]

  • Project Cars release date locked down, new trailer released

    Project Cars finally has a release date. Project Cars will release on May 8, Bandai Namco UK has announced. We haven’t yet had an update from Namco Bandai’s other regional offices, but its probably safe to bet the racer will release around the same time in the Americas, Europe and ANZ region. We can now […]

  • Attack on Titan: Humanity in Chains trailer shows combat, online multiplayer

    Attack on Titan: Humanity in Chains has plenty to offer fans of the anime. Previously known as Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind, the Spike Chunsoft action game is coming west thanks to Atlus. Gematsu reports it’s due in both Europe and North America in May, via the 3DS eShop. The trailer below […]

  • Bloodborne stamina recovery rate affected by equip weight

    Bloodborne players have unearthed an important gameplay detail not mentioned in the game’s menus or manual. In Bloodborne, players need to manage their stamina carefully for best results. A far more aggressively-tuned affair than past Souls games, Bloodborne does away with equip weight limits, and items have no listed weight details. As far as players […]

  • Street Fighter’s Ryu, Fire Emblem’s Roy spotted in Super Smash Bros. patch – rumour

    Street Fighter’s Ryu is rumoured for future Super Smash bros DLC following datamining of the latest patch. Super Smash Bros. 3DS and Wii U were updated recently, and hacker shinyquagsire23 claims to have found some interesting files while poking around in the 3DS patch data. As detailed on Reddit, the audio files included a new […]

  • Suikoden 3 PEGI rating suggests PS2 Classic re-release

    Suikoden. Suikoden 2. And now: Suikoden 3. Suikoden 3 has been rated by PEGI for PlayStation 3, presumably ahead of an upcoming re-release. Gematsu turned up the rating, and although we have no further information at this time, it’s not much a leap to assume the RPG will turn up as a PS2 Classic on […]