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Mass Effect 4: BioWare discusses its place in series, choices may carry over

Thursday, 7 February 2013 10:54 GMT By Dave Cook

Mass Effect will live on in a fourth game, but BioWare has stated that calling it ‘Mass Effect 4′ is to do a disservice to the series’ legacy.

Over on the BioWare forums, community manager Chris Priestly wrote, “To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here.

“We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying ‘well, they’ll have to pick a canon ending’.

“No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda.”

BioWare Edmonton head Yanick Roy has backed up Priestly, adding on the forums, “Thinking of the next Mass Effect game as Mass Effect 4 would imply a certain linearity, a straight evolution of the gameplay and story of the first three games.

Interestingly, Roy suggested that choices from previous Mass Effect titles may carry over, “That doesn’t mean that events of the first three games and the choices you made won’t get recognised, but they likely won’t be what this new story will focus on.

“If you had three games centred around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another.

“You likely would have to recognise how the events of the first war influenced the ones of the second, but you would not necessarily think of it as a sequel. Again, the analogy is not great, but what I’m trying to say is that the ME universe is so rich that we are not limited to a single track when coming up with a new story.

“What makes it Mass Effect is indeed the alien races, the technology, the lore, history, etc. You can safely expect those in the next Mass Effect.”

We already know that ‘Mass Effect 4′ will use Frostbite 2, along with some other snippets of information.

I spoke with BioWare about the above last year, and they confirmed that the studio didn’t want the game’s hero to be ‘Shepard 2′. They want someone fresh instead.

Thanks Eurogamer.

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26 Comments

  1. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    I just hope it tells a more personal story. Mass Effect just rose the stakes and rose the stakes until it was this really quite ludicrous ‘Do this or every living thing in the universe dies’-type deal. It was bloody silly.

    I want a personal story, in that universe. A bounty hunter’s tale, perhaps. Something with huge locations and story locations, but also something far more intimate. That’s when Mass Effect truly shone; when Jack cried over her lost childhood or when Thane Krios lost his son.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Hellhound30x

    Mass effect started off sooooooo goood…. Not saying I didn’t like the sequels, because I did. It just seems like the initial vision for Mass Effect was bigger.
    Exploration was totally stripped down to nothing by the time you get to ME3. That was one of my favorite parts in the first M.E. was just exploring the planets… even though it was pretty simple… mine some ore here, kill a big worm there… but it was still fun to get lost in the illusion of it especially when you were looking at the sky…

    #2 2 years ago
  3. SplatteredHouse

    I’m in complete agreement. I’d hope to see Bioware delve into character, events, circumstance and consequences.

    @2: Who could have guessed that searching the ruins and wrecks, almost literally digging up history (locations telling their own stories, and discoveries informing players, rather than lengthy conversations/blocks of narrative) would devolve by 3, into pointing and clicking.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. daytripper

    dont make it a fps please

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Tormenter

    @3… Ummm… anyone who’d played 2?

    Anyway, why is Mass Effect still a thing? Were people not pissed off enough when Bioware spent 5 years saying that the endings would be multiple, unique and tied to your entire journey.

    Why do you people swallow this garbage? You can get up now, your constant bending over is embarrassing.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Tormenter: I sense much anger in you…

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Clupula

    Personally, I hated the Mako sections of part one. Having to search the whole goddamn planet just to find the same identical “maze” (if you can call it a maze when it’s only four rooms big) that I seem to find on every other planet was not my idea of fun.

    Of course, I started the series with 2, but when I finally got to one, I realized that, yes, it had more RPG elements, but they weren’t very well implemented and I’m kinda glad they decided to just focus on it being a third person shooter with a lot of story elements.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Vapsyvox

    @1

    If a game doesn’t have an epic story that involves the entire known universe, then it isn’t good! /s

    They tried using a more personal story in Dragon Age 2, and I liked it. The story, not the game.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Night Hunter

    @8: I liked the DA2 story too, but there are a lot of people who absolutely hated it.

    EDIT: Okay, hyperbole, but a lot of people found it lacking because you didn’t have to save the world

    #9 2 years ago
  10. roadkill

    Wow! You people have some serious issues. Why do you play games if you don’t like them!? And after that you come here and spew nonsense. What do you gain by being assholes!?

    #10 2 years ago
  11. DSB

    Mass Effect 2 was like the world’s dumbest commercial break. “And now for something completely different”:

    Don’t worry about the continuity or how little sense this makes, JUST LOOK, a giant terminator! How fucking awesome is this?!

    I loved Mass Effect even though it was a technical mess, but 2 just completely killed it for me.

    @1 Personally I saw that as a huge quality of the first game. Instead of worrying about personal drama, you were actually a part of something much bigger.

    Mass Effect 2 was basically 90% “Getting the band back together” with 10% actual progress. So you spend most of your time assembling a team that you really have no purpose for, beyond some waifer thin plot that kinda (but doesn’t) tie into the original game in any believable way.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. fearmonkey

    I’d love to see a darker not so nice character as the lead next time, think Zaeed, allow the possibilty of being an alien, and space combat!. bring back landing on planets but not the simplistic shuttle shooting as in ME1.

    Think ME meets Privateer with more RPG elements and choice and free form exploration.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. deathm00n

    For me ME2 is one of the best games I’ve played in my life… I think it’s a huge improvement over 1. Sure the story of simply assembling a team was horrible. But there were so many good side missions.

    3 was just meh… I don’t even finished it.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Bomba Luigi

    They can’t be serios. If someone have choosen the Green ending everybody in the Galaxy is shining Green. That would be really Strange.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Hellhound30x

    @#7 Clupula

    “Of course, I started the series with 2, but when I finally got to one, I realized that, yes, it had more RPG elements, but they weren’t very well implemented.”

    “It just seems like the initial vision for Mass Effect was bigger.”
    In terms of scope the vision for ME was huge in comparison to what we got. You could see it will all the “rpg elements” in the game. This is what i meant.

    Makes you wonder if Mass Effect would have stayed a better game if E.A. hadn’t bought Bioware…

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Hellhound30x

    @ #13deathm00n “3 was just meh… I don’t even finished it.”

    Wow… you missed alot… When Shepard says bye to his team, I actually got a bit emotional. It was a good game.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. DSB

    I got emotional when Mass Effect 2 said goodbye to a coherent story.

    That series has gotten enough emotions out of me. It’s definitely one of those times where I’ve felt genuinely angry with disappointment.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Eyelekin

    Another case of BioWare starting the hype train way, way too early. Happened with DA2, happened with SWTOR, happened with ME3 – each failed to live up for their own individual reasons. They should take a leaf out of Rockstar’s book and only start talking/leaking when they have enough assets ready to show and the game is close enough to release that they can say things with certainty. All this nonsense with “We’re not ready to talk about x yet” is frustrating as a fan.

    Personally I’d be very happy to see another game in the same universe with different writers (please oh please, different writers…). The aesthetic and personality of the era lends itself very well to the ‘interactive film’ type of experience. While I appreciate the fan service the multiple choice conversations offer it’s not going to redirect the stories in such a dramatic way as the first few BioWare titles; as we’ve seen in their recent games. I suspect this is down to very limited budgets now they’re partnered with their investors much more closely, and writing, directing, modelling and texturing so many additional assets for maybe 20% of the players isn’t very cost effective.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Joe_Gamer

    Big fat Meh, Mass Effect is pretty much dead to me.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Vice

    I’m really not interested in a Mass Effect without my Fem Shep…. But I suppose as long as there’s an option to have a female main hero, I’d play it.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. jimbodabeast

    You guys must have no life . You come on here checking on the game but yet all you do is hate . If u don’t like it then go get a LIFE AND STOP POSTING DUMBASS COMMENTS ON A GREAT FRANCHISE.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. YoungZer0

    @21: It was a great franchise until Fanservi- I mean Mass Effect 3 came out.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. TSoniLawson

    I am a super ME trilogy fan, I am fine with new story yada yada but I would LOVE LOVE if they would bring characters over, characters that are sure to last a few human lifetime, like Liara (I love Liara! suggested by my name) but also garrus! I mean they can be integrated into the squad right? or whatever… I guess Garrus and Liara will not take order from a random person. And I like human characters :( different characters, same/similar …. features….

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Kreion

    @12
    Surely the point of ME is that you don’t have to BE a nice character xD Though I suppose the game does have you act as the hero regardless, but wanting to destroy the reapers and your characters…character don’t have to conflict. Shepard can be an asshole and still want to destroy them haha.

    I feel like it’s less of a darker character that I’d want next time, and more of a less-heroic figure. Or at least someone who doesn’t start of as a hero, then you have the choice of which way you want to go…

    But who knows what Bioware will do next time. ME3 was a good game, aside from the ending, but it was by no means perfect. I don’t know what direction they will try next.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. bradk825

    @9 I liked the DA2 story in general, I just felt it was a step backward considering everything the first game offered.

    I am hoping the single player campaign for the next Mass Effect includes choosable races like Dragan Age Origins did. It could be a very similar idea. There was a common story no matter who you were, but each character had their own origin story that had lasting effects throughout the game. I see no reason they can’t do it again.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. bradk825

    Here’s a nostalgia moment: Remember back at the launch of ME1 when a guy decided to write a review without having played it, and told everyone is was a porn game disguised as a space combat game? He claimed you could customize the bodies of the characters as much as you wanted, and then choose the sexual position they assume and such. He took the idea of the blurry fade-to-black love scene and just used his vivid imagination.

    Just realizing this is so far fetched maybe not everyone will believe me, so here: http://gamepolitics.com/2008/01/14/conservative-blogger-claims-mass-effect-offers-customizable-sodomy

    #26 2 years ago

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  • Halo: The Master Chief Collection April update includes “more ranked playlists”

    The next content update for Halo: The Master Chief Collection will “address a variety of issues across the game,” according to 343 Industries, including specific improvements to ranking. New quit and betrayal penalties are also in the works as the development team prepares to roll out ranks to additional playlists. According to 343, the latest […]

  • Get Spec Ops: The Line for free through 2K Games sale on Humble Store

    A 2K Games sale is going on this weekend on the Humble Store with up to 83% off on select titles. Games on sale include Evolve, Bioshock, Civilization and other franchises. Plus, Spec Ops: The Line can be yours for free with the purchase of any -2K title on sale. To see the full list […]

  • Dota 2 The International 2015 tickets are sold out

    Tickets to Dota 2 The International 2015 are now sold out, which shouldn’t surprise anyone. The tickets went on sale in two phases starting March 27. Phase one sold out in six minutes, and phase two sold out in four minutes. Each round of sales offered the same quantity of General Admission tickets priced at […]

  • Here’s what’s expected in Battlefield 4′s Weapon Crate DLC – video

    A new Battlefield 4 drop is on the horizon, and to give you an idea of what to expect, we have a video for you below featuring information on the Weapon Crate DLC. According to Battlefield expert Westie, players can expect five new weapons along with the return of the Gun Master game mode. The […]

  • Pillars of Eternity issues to be addressed in patch 1.03, expected next week

    Obsidian Entertainment plans to release a Pillars of Eternity patch next week to combat issues users have reported. Until the patch is released, the developers have posted workarounds for some of the most common issues. The issues reported span framerate drops, inability to launch the game unless in administrator mode, crashes on 32-bit machines, animal […]

  • Mortal Kombat X videos show Erron Black gameplay, Ermac fatalities, more

    Erron Black, the gunslinger which was outed for Mortal Kombat X in the achievements listing last week, was featured in the latest livestream from NetherRelam Studios yesterday evening. Along with gameplay, fatalities and variations for Black, the developer also provided a look at gameplay for: Ermac vs Mileena; Ermac’s brutality and fatality moves; Lui Kang […]

  • The Legend of Zelda Wii U: 2015 release not a “priority”, skipping E3

    The Legend of Zelda franchise producer Eiji Aonuma is featured in the latest video update on the status of The Legend of Zelda for Wii U, stating a 2015 release is no longer a “number one priority” for the team. While Aonuma never specifically says the game has been delayed into 2016, the announcement confirms […]

  • Destiny gameplay designer exits for Bethesda

    Destiny’s senior gameplay designer Josh Hamrick announced on Twitter overnight he would be leaving the company in a week’s time for Bethesda. Hamrick joined Bungie in 2009 after working two years at Midway Austin, where he created multiplayer maps, modified single-player levels, and other designer functions. He was in charge of fixing bug in code […]

  • What to expect from the Call of Duty Championship this weekend

    Just settling down to the Call of Duty Championship this weekend? Here’s a rundown of today’s matches and what else to expect over the next three days. The Call of Duty Championship is taking place in LA this weekend until Sunday, with 32 four-player teams battling it out for a prize pot of $1 million. […]

  • MLB 15 The Show video highlights improved graphics, updated grass patterns

    Sony has released a video for MLB 15 The Show which provides a look at graphical improvements made to the game. Along with the visual upgrade over MLB 14 The Show, the game contains new minor league stadiums, dynamic sun generated in real-time, and upgraded grass patterns which reflect each stadium’s unique look. MLB 15 […]

  • Valve to offer HTC Vive Developer Edition free to qualified developers

    Valve has said it will offer the HTC Vive Developer Edition for free to qualified developers in an effort to buoy projects before the tech launches commercially. Surgeon Simulator developer Bossa Studios and The Room studio Fireproof Games are just some of the developers which already have a free Vive in-hand. According to Valve’s Doug […]

  • DriveClub gameplay video features MotorStorm’s off-road buggies

    Some gameplay footage of MotorStorm’s off-road buggies in DriveClub has surfaced. Pictures of the buggies were shown on the Japanese PlayStation Blog earlier this month, which considering the game was developed by Evolution Studios – which developed MotorStorm – this isn’t too much of a surprise. The buggies were first spotted by Videogamer, which pulled […]

  • Mortal Kombat X live-action TV spot features the track Chop Suey

    The TV sport for Mortal Kombat X has been released, and not only does it contain a “spontaneous fight circle” taking over an entire city, but it features the System of a Down track Chop Suey. Mortal Kombat X will be released on PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One April 14. The […]

  • Bloodborne Forbidden Woods progression bug caused by multiplayer summon

    A progression bug in Bloodborne is in the works, according to Sony and From Software. The issue occurs when players activate a multiplayer session in the Forbidden Woods using the Sinister Resonant Bell or Small Resonant Bell. It also appears the Lunarium Key won’t appear because of the multiplayer bug, and without the key you […]

  • Yo-Kai Watch game franchise has sold over 7 million copies

    The Yo-Kai Watch IP has sold over 7 million copies, according to developer Level-5. The figure included both physical and digital download sales. Yo-Kai Watch 3 will be unveiled during Level-5 Vision 2015 next month. The first title is in the works for the west but is still without a release window. Thanks, Gematsu.

  • Bloodborne trademark returned to Sony after accidentally losing it

    In case you were worried or anything, Sony has once again obtained the Bloodborne trademark. Earlier this week it was revealed that Sony mistakenly abandoned the Bloodborne trademark along with four others registered with US Patent and Trademark Office: Guns Up!, Kill Strain; How Games Were Made to Sound, and No Heroes Allows: No Puzzles […]

  • GTA 5 PC official trailer coming next week, 15 new screenshots released

    New PC screenshots of GTA 5 have been released along with word of a new trailer coming on Monday. The screens below are from the PC version and you can view them in 4K glory over on Rockstar Newswire. The PC version of GTA 5 releases on April 14.

  • PSN real-time server status page launching in Europe soon

    PlayStation users in Europe will soon have its own a PSN Service Status Indicator. It was released earlier this month in North America. The indicator makes it easier to check whether PlayStation services are down or running as planned. This includes account management, PlayStation Now, the store, social services, etc. Sony told Eurogamer the service […]

  • Exclusivity contract prevents Bioware from revealing Dragon Age: Inquisition DLC release on PS4

    Bioware is unable to discuss when the Jaws of Hakkon DLC for Dragon Age: Inquisition will arrive on platforms other than PC and Xbox One. According to various tweets from executive producer Mark Darrah, due to the exclusivity contract between EA and Microsoft, the studio is unable to announce a release date for PlayStation 3 […]

  • LEGO Batman 3 demo, Namco Museum, more added to North American eShop

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with a demo for LEGO Batman 3, Namco Museum on Wii U Virtual Console, and various sales. Below is the full update. Nintendo eShop Dot Arcade – Wii U LEGO Ninjago – 3Ds LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham Demo – Wii U Harvest Moon: The […]

  • Square Enix’s Easter Surprise bundle contains five mystery PC games

    Square Enix offering another mystery bundle to customers in the UK, which comes with five mystery PC games for £3.99. As before, customers will be unaware of the games they are purchasing in the mystery bundle, but the bundle contains triple-A titles worth £40 combined. One of Square’s previous mystery bundles contained Tomb Raider, Just […]

  • From Software’s PSone game Shadow Tower coming to PSN

    Shadow Tower, the first-person action-RPG developed for the original PlayStation by From Software, will be released on PlayStation Network. In the 1998 title, players took on the role of a mercenary who has returned home to the Holy Land of Zeptar to find the place has been sucked into the Underworld. He must use the […]

  • PlayStation TV gets price cut in the UK, now £44.99

    PlayStation TV has received a price cut in the UK. After several retailers started offering the console for less than the RRP of £84.99, users on DealSpwn began to wonder whether this is an official price cut, and not just regular deals or stock clearance. Sony later confirmed the new price of £44.99. “Starting from […]

  • Fast & Furious expansion for Forza Horizon 2 is now available, for free

    You can download Forza Horizon 2 expansion Fast & Furious starting right now. Forza Horizon 2 Presents Fast & Furious is available to download now through Xbox Live for Xbox One and Xbox 360. The expansion is standalone, so you don’t need to own Forza Horizon 2 to play it. It’s also free from now […]

  • Fire-based weapons come to PayDay 2 with the Butcher’s BBQ Pack

    The 20th DLC for PayDay 2, the Butcher’s BBQ Pack, is now available on Steam. The DLC will run you $4.99/€4.99 and features: Piglet Grenade Launcher, 12G Steakout Shotgun and Mk1 Flamethrower Molotov cocktails and incendiary ammo Four new masks, patterns, materials and achievements The Butcher’s BBQ Pack is another co-development between Overkill and Croatian […]

  • Lords of the Fallen developer offers Hideo Kojima a job

    Amid the current turmoil between Hideo Kojima and publisher Konami, one studio has offered the legendary designer a position. Lords of the Fallen developer Deck 13 took to Twitter to extend a job offer to Hideo Kojima. Dear Mr. @HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN In case you are currently searching, we have an open position as Head of Game […]

  • Destiny Xur update: should you buy MIDA Multi Tool?

    The question on every Destiny player’s lips today. And the answer, supplied by resident Destiny expert Paul Davies, is… Yes! We asked Paul whether or not he thought Xur’s Exotic weapon this week was worth the 23 Strange Coins. Here’s what he said: “It was already a great gun to own for PVP owing to […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 has an all-male cast to make it “more approachable”

    According to Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata, the main cast of the game is all-male because it makes the game “more approachable.” Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata spoke to Gamespot about the reason for his choice of making the core cast an all-male affair. “Speaking honestly, an all-male party feels almost more approachable […]

  • Hearthstone Blackrock Mountain is coming April 2

    Blizzard has given Hearthstone expansion Blackrock Mountain a solid release date. Hearthstone’s Blackrock Mountain adventure pack will be released April 2 in the Americas region, and April 3 in Europe, Korea, Taiwan, and China. Blackrock Depths is the first wing to be released, others will follow one week apart. Other than the 31 new cards, […]

  • Bloodborne: if you can’t load your save after installing firmware 2.50, this will help

    If you’re having issues loading your Bloodborne save after applying firmware update 2.50 to your PS4, this should help you out. Reddit user KBALLZZ encountered an issue after installing update 2.50 on his PlayStation 4. Bloodborne started reinstalling the day one patch again and when it was done he couldn’t continue his game or load […]

  • Use this code to get 10% off on PSN purchases

    Sony is offering a 10% discount coupon to anyone looking to buy games on PlayStation Store this weekend. Sony’s latest discount coupon code is here. You’ll receive 10% off your cart total when buying from the PSN Store. The offer is not valid on purchases made on PS Vita, PlayStation TV, PSP, or in-game stores. […]

  • Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin upgrade path announced, system specs revealed

    Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin will offer returning customers a chance to upgrade at a discounted price. Those who already own Dark Souls 2 on Steam and are interested in picking up the Scholar of the First Sin edition will be happy to know that publisher Bandai Namco is offering them an […]

  • Bloodborne: this is what happens when you have 40 Insight

    Insight is one of the currencies in Bloodborne, but it’s also a mechanic that affects the gameplay. There are MASSIVE SPOILERS below, so turn back now or one of Bloodborne’s gameplay mechanics will be SPOILED for you. Just like Blood Echoes in Bloodborne, Insight is used to purchase certain items from vendors in the game. […]

  • Phase two of Xbox One April update brings voice messages, dedicated servers for party chat, more

    The second phase of the April update for Xbox One is now open to members of the Preview programme and and it looks like there are even more features in store. Phase one of Xbox One’s April firmware update started a few days ago with improvements to party chat and achievements notifications. Today, phase two […]

  • GTA 5′s graphical “downgrade” is a bug, will be fixed in upcoming patch

    As of patch 1.8 for GTA 5 on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, a few graphical issues have cropped up leading some to believe there has been a stealth downgrade to the game’s overall graphics. Over the past couple of days, Reddit went nuts over a video showing what appears to be a downgrade to […]

  • Destiny: Xur location and inventory for March 27, 28 – MIDA Multi-Tool edition

    Xur: Agent of the Nine has arrived at The Tower in Destiny to rid you of your Strange Coins. Xur: Agent of the Nine has once again made it to Destiny’s Tower to sell you Exotic weapons and gear in exchange for Strange Coins and Motes of Light. For this weekend, Xur can be found […]

  • Destiny vault space upgrade will have enough room for every Exotic

    Destiny is finally getting the vault space upgrade players have been begging for almost since launch week. Destiny players can currently use vault space to store 20 pieces of amour, 20 weapons and 20 general item stacks. In the latest Bungle Weekly Update, the developer revealed that as of patch 1.1.2, due before House of […]

  • Half-Life 2: Update mod applies some sparkle to the original title

    Half-Life 2: Update will be available tomorrow, and thanks to the modding community, those who own the vanilla version of the game can apply a visual update to the 2004 title. The comparison video shows you the differences between the original version, and the version with Half-Life 2: Update applied. Here’s what the mod includes: […]

  • Neverwinter MMO can now be pre-downloaded on Xbox One

    You can now pre-download the free-to-play Neverwinter MMO on Xbox One. The game launches on March 31, but you will still need an Xbox Live Gold account to play it. Based on the Dungeons & Dragons franchise, the game can be downloaded from the Xbox Store.