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Mass Effect 4: BioWare discusses its place in series, choices may carry over

Thursday, 7 February 2013 10:54 GMT By Dave Cook

Mass Effect will live on in a fourth game, but BioWare has stated that calling it ‘Mass Effect 4′ is to do a disservice to the series’ legacy.

Over on the BioWare forums, community manager Chris Priestly wrote, “To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here.

“We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying ‘well, they’ll have to pick a canon ending’.

“No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda.”

BioWare Edmonton head Yanick Roy has backed up Priestly, adding on the forums, “Thinking of the next Mass Effect game as Mass Effect 4 would imply a certain linearity, a straight evolution of the gameplay and story of the first three games.

Interestingly, Roy suggested that choices from previous Mass Effect titles may carry over, “That doesn’t mean that events of the first three games and the choices you made won’t get recognised, but they likely won’t be what this new story will focus on.

“If you had three games centred around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another.

“You likely would have to recognise how the events of the first war influenced the ones of the second, but you would not necessarily think of it as a sequel. Again, the analogy is not great, but what I’m trying to say is that the ME universe is so rich that we are not limited to a single track when coming up with a new story.

“What makes it Mass Effect is indeed the alien races, the technology, the lore, history, etc. You can safely expect those in the next Mass Effect.”

We already know that ‘Mass Effect 4′ will use Frostbite 2, along with some other snippets of information.

I spoke with BioWare about the above last year, and they confirmed that the studio didn’t want the game’s hero to be ‘Shepard 2′. They want someone fresh instead.

Thanks Eurogamer.

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26 Comments

  1. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    I just hope it tells a more personal story. Mass Effect just rose the stakes and rose the stakes until it was this really quite ludicrous ‘Do this or every living thing in the universe dies’-type deal. It was bloody silly.

    I want a personal story, in that universe. A bounty hunter’s tale, perhaps. Something with huge locations and story locations, but also something far more intimate. That’s when Mass Effect truly shone; when Jack cried over her lost childhood or when Thane Krios lost his son.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Hellhound30x

    Mass effect started off sooooooo goood…. Not saying I didn’t like the sequels, because I did. It just seems like the initial vision for Mass Effect was bigger.
    Exploration was totally stripped down to nothing by the time you get to ME3. That was one of my favorite parts in the first M.E. was just exploring the planets… even though it was pretty simple… mine some ore here, kill a big worm there… but it was still fun to get lost in the illusion of it especially when you were looking at the sky…

    #2 2 years ago
  3. SplatteredHouse

    I’m in complete agreement. I’d hope to see Bioware delve into character, events, circumstance and consequences.

    @2: Who could have guessed that searching the ruins and wrecks, almost literally digging up history (locations telling their own stories, and discoveries informing players, rather than lengthy conversations/blocks of narrative) would devolve by 3, into pointing and clicking.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. daytripper

    dont make it a fps please

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Tormenter

    @3… Ummm… anyone who’d played 2?

    Anyway, why is Mass Effect still a thing? Were people not pissed off enough when Bioware spent 5 years saying that the endings would be multiple, unique and tied to your entire journey.

    Why do you people swallow this garbage? You can get up now, your constant bending over is embarrassing.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Tormenter: I sense much anger in you…

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Clupula

    Personally, I hated the Mako sections of part one. Having to search the whole goddamn planet just to find the same identical “maze” (if you can call it a maze when it’s only four rooms big) that I seem to find on every other planet was not my idea of fun.

    Of course, I started the series with 2, but when I finally got to one, I realized that, yes, it had more RPG elements, but they weren’t very well implemented and I’m kinda glad they decided to just focus on it being a third person shooter with a lot of story elements.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Vapsyvox

    @1

    If a game doesn’t have an epic story that involves the entire known universe, then it isn’t good! /s

    They tried using a more personal story in Dragon Age 2, and I liked it. The story, not the game.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Night Hunter

    @8: I liked the DA2 story too, but there are a lot of people who absolutely hated it.

    EDIT: Okay, hyperbole, but a lot of people found it lacking because you didn’t have to save the world

    #9 2 years ago
  10. roadkill

    Wow! You people have some serious issues. Why do you play games if you don’t like them!? And after that you come here and spew nonsense. What do you gain by being assholes!?

    #10 2 years ago
  11. DSB

    Mass Effect 2 was like the world’s dumbest commercial break. “And now for something completely different”:

    Don’t worry about the continuity or how little sense this makes, JUST LOOK, a giant terminator! How fucking awesome is this?!

    I loved Mass Effect even though it was a technical mess, but 2 just completely killed it for me.

    @1 Personally I saw that as a huge quality of the first game. Instead of worrying about personal drama, you were actually a part of something much bigger.

    Mass Effect 2 was basically 90% “Getting the band back together” with 10% actual progress. So you spend most of your time assembling a team that you really have no purpose for, beyond some waifer thin plot that kinda (but doesn’t) tie into the original game in any believable way.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. fearmonkey

    I’d love to see a darker not so nice character as the lead next time, think Zaeed, allow the possibilty of being an alien, and space combat!. bring back landing on planets but not the simplistic shuttle shooting as in ME1.

    Think ME meets Privateer with more RPG elements and choice and free form exploration.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. deathm00n

    For me ME2 is one of the best games I’ve played in my life… I think it’s a huge improvement over 1. Sure the story of simply assembling a team was horrible. But there were so many good side missions.

    3 was just meh… I don’t even finished it.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Bomba Luigi

    They can’t be serios. If someone have choosen the Green ending everybody in the Galaxy is shining Green. That would be really Strange.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Hellhound30x

    @#7 Clupula

    “Of course, I started the series with 2, but when I finally got to one, I realized that, yes, it had more RPG elements, but they weren’t very well implemented.”

    “It just seems like the initial vision for Mass Effect was bigger.”
    In terms of scope the vision for ME was huge in comparison to what we got. You could see it will all the “rpg elements” in the game. This is what i meant.

    Makes you wonder if Mass Effect would have stayed a better game if E.A. hadn’t bought Bioware…

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Hellhound30x

    @ #13deathm00n “3 was just meh… I don’t even finished it.”

    Wow… you missed alot… When Shepard says bye to his team, I actually got a bit emotional. It was a good game.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. DSB

    I got emotional when Mass Effect 2 said goodbye to a coherent story.

    That series has gotten enough emotions out of me. It’s definitely one of those times where I’ve felt genuinely angry with disappointment.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Eyelekin

    Another case of BioWare starting the hype train way, way too early. Happened with DA2, happened with SWTOR, happened with ME3 – each failed to live up for their own individual reasons. They should take a leaf out of Rockstar’s book and only start talking/leaking when they have enough assets ready to show and the game is close enough to release that they can say things with certainty. All this nonsense with “We’re not ready to talk about x yet” is frustrating as a fan.

    Personally I’d be very happy to see another game in the same universe with different writers (please oh please, different writers…). The aesthetic and personality of the era lends itself very well to the ‘interactive film’ type of experience. While I appreciate the fan service the multiple choice conversations offer it’s not going to redirect the stories in such a dramatic way as the first few BioWare titles; as we’ve seen in their recent games. I suspect this is down to very limited budgets now they’re partnered with their investors much more closely, and writing, directing, modelling and texturing so many additional assets for maybe 20% of the players isn’t very cost effective.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Joe_Gamer

    Big fat Meh, Mass Effect is pretty much dead to me.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Vice

    I’m really not interested in a Mass Effect without my Fem Shep…. But I suppose as long as there’s an option to have a female main hero, I’d play it.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. jimbodabeast

    You guys must have no life . You come on here checking on the game but yet all you do is hate . If u don’t like it then go get a LIFE AND STOP POSTING DUMBASS COMMENTS ON A GREAT FRANCHISE.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. YoungZer0

    @21: It was a great franchise until Fanservi- I mean Mass Effect 3 came out.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. TSoniLawson

    I am a super ME trilogy fan, I am fine with new story yada yada but I would LOVE LOVE if they would bring characters over, characters that are sure to last a few human lifetime, like Liara (I love Liara! suggested by my name) but also garrus! I mean they can be integrated into the squad right? or whatever… I guess Garrus and Liara will not take order from a random person. And I like human characters :( different characters, same/similar …. features….

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Kreion

    @12
    Surely the point of ME is that you don’t have to BE a nice character xD Though I suppose the game does have you act as the hero regardless, but wanting to destroy the reapers and your characters…character don’t have to conflict. Shepard can be an asshole and still want to destroy them haha.

    I feel like it’s less of a darker character that I’d want next time, and more of a less-heroic figure. Or at least someone who doesn’t start of as a hero, then you have the choice of which way you want to go…

    But who knows what Bioware will do next time. ME3 was a good game, aside from the ending, but it was by no means perfect. I don’t know what direction they will try next.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. bradk825

    @9 I liked the DA2 story in general, I just felt it was a step backward considering everything the first game offered.

    I am hoping the single player campaign for the next Mass Effect includes choosable races like Dragan Age Origins did. It could be a very similar idea. There was a common story no matter who you were, but each character had their own origin story that had lasting effects throughout the game. I see no reason they can’t do it again.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. bradk825

    Here’s a nostalgia moment: Remember back at the launch of ME1 when a guy decided to write a review without having played it, and told everyone is was a porn game disguised as a space combat game? He claimed you could customize the bodies of the characters as much as you wanted, and then choose the sexual position they assume and such. He took the idea of the blurry fade-to-black love scene and just used his vivid imagination.

    Just realizing this is so far fetched maybe not everyone will believe me, so here: http://gamepolitics.com/2008/01/14/conservative-blogger-claims-mass-effect-offers-customizable-sodomy

    #26 2 years ago

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    Daily Objectives could be more important to GTA Online than Heists. These theories and more, from a giddy Matt Martin. Yesterday Rockstar dropped a bombshell. Not only is it releasing Heists next week – the mythical 4-player missions for GTA Online – but it’s also going to be introducing daily challenges and more modes to […]

  • Breaking down Hardline Premium, is it worth it?

    Having been announced just a few days ago, the Premium service for Battlefield Hardline has been a topic of constant debate among the Battlefield community. Many look at Hardline as a Battlefield off-shoot that will just tide everyone over until Battlefront comes out in the fall. EA has other plans however, announcing a $50 Premium […]

  • Watch Dogs sold more than GTA 5 and FIFA 15 in Australia in 2014

    Watch Dogs outsold GTA 5, and FIFA 15, at retail in Australia last year. According to data obtained by the Interactive Games & Entertainment Association (IGEA) from the NPD Group Australia, last year’s year retail sales charts look a bit different in Australia. The top-selling game was Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, followed by Watch […]

  • Watch PC footage of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt from GDC 2015

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has a new gameplay video available that shows a bit of action from the PC version. The video below was captured from Nvidia’s GDC conference live-stream. Developer CD Projekt RED was on hand to show off The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt‘s graphical prowess running on a PC. Thanks, GamesHQMedia.

  • Dying Light: Hard Mode and Ultimate Survivor Bundle out March 10

    Dying Light’s second DLC drop, the Ultimate Survivor Bundle, and the free Hard Mode, have been given a solid release date alongside a new trailer. Dying Light developer Techland has confirmed that the Ultimate Survivor Bundle, the game’s second DLC drop, will release March 10. The DLC is part of the season pass, but will […]

  • Exploration puzzler Ether One is coming to PlayStation 4

    Ether One, the first-person exploration game that puts you in the minds of other people to help change events of their past is coming to PlayStation 4 this year. Ether One is coming to PlayStation 4 this year, developer White Paper Games announced at GDC 2015. A retail version will also be available alongside the […]

  • Larian “murdered” Divinity: Dragon Commander to focus on Original Sin

    Divinity: Original Sin developer Larian talked very candidly about the business side of development and the many unfortunate events that took place for the game to come out as it did. Larian Studios founder Swen Vincke gave a post-mortem on the troubled development of Divinity: Original Sin, and how it managed to overcome all of […]

  • Firewatch probably has the most natural dialogue of any game to date

    Firewatch developer Campo Santo has revealed the first ever gameplay footage of the upcoming exploration game. Firewatch is the first game from super indie studio Campo Santo. The game is set in the Wyoming forests where the player will be exploring the environment and act as a fire lookout. The game features extensive voice-acting as […]

  • White Night launch trailer is a noir thriller trip

    White Night is here, not long after it was revealed and with a mysterious launch trailer. White Night, the black-and-white survival horror set in 1930s Boston, has revealed its launch trailer. White Night is mix of old-school horror, exploration and puzzling solving in an eerie, noir setting. The game’s main mechanic is light. any object […]

  • Free-to-play is “a significant part” of PlayStation’s digital future

    Free-to-play games on PlayStation 4 have seen enough growth that Sony is now considering the model a major part of its future digital business. Sarah Thompson, senior account executive for PlayStation’s free-to-play business said at a GDC panel that Sony has witnessed impressive growth in the free-to-play sector. “We’re really looking at this as a […]

  • Double Fine Adventure Kickstarter documentary releasing free on YouTube

    Broken Age making of documentary Double Fine Adventure will be made available to all. When Double Fine turned to crowdfunding, changing the industry forever, it promised to give an unprecedented look behind the scenes with a professional documentary of the whole development process of Broken Age. That documentary was initially restricted to Kickstarter backers, but […]

  • Gone Home console ports cancelled following Midnight City difficulties

    Gone Home won’t be made available to the console masses after all. Indie hit Gone Home was announced for console release almost exactly one year ago, and we’ve heard absolutely nothing since then. Turns out, that’s because it’s not happening: developer the Fullbright Company confirmed to Eurogamer that the ports have been cancelled. “Our publishing […]

  • Microsoft rang Mojang the day Notch joked about selling

    Minecraft developer Mojang was sold because founder Markus “Notch” Persson made a joke on Twitter. Ever wondered how Minecraft came to be a Microsoft property? It’s actually a pretty great story. Remember when Notch tweeted this? Anyone want to buy my share of Mojang so I can move on with my life? Getting hate for […]

  • Halo: The Master Chief Collection matchmaking update rolling out

    Halo: The Master Chief Collection has been updated to help fix its tragic matchmaking. Again. Now almost four months old, Halo: The Master Chief Collection was still pretty broken as of this morning, with rubbish matchmaking and plenty of other issues to go around. 343 Industries is still trying to fix it, and has today […]

  • Nvidia unveils Shield, an Android 4K Smart TV set top box

    Nvidia has named yet another product “Shield” in an attempt to render us all hopelessly confused. The heart of Nvidia’s GDC 2015 press conference was the Shield, a $200 Android set top box launching in May. Apparently the “world’s first 4K Android TV”, the Shield supports 4K content encoded with h.265. The box runs on […]

  • Star Wars Battlefront footage shown behind closed doors

    Star Wars Battlefront is being shown to retailers. Now we want EA to show it to us. Star Wars Battlefront is expected sometime this year, so it’s about time EA gave us a look at DICE’s latest. It turns out that while press and gamers have had to twiddle their thumbs, EA is showing it […]

  • Dragon Age lead creative moves onto mysterious new BioWare project

    Dragon Age creator David Gaider is leaving his baby behind. Dragon Age is a team effort, but Gaider was one of the key creatives behind the franchise, creating the setting of Thedas (which, I was recently amused to learn, is an acronym: “THE Dragon Age Setting”). He was lead writer on all three games and […]

  • Unity 5 available for free with “no fucking around”

    Unity 5 looks amazing, and you can download and faff about with it for free right now. “We’re not nickel-and-diming people. When we say it’s free, it’s free. We’re not charging a royalty, which I think is akin to looking for whales.” Unity Technologies announced the release of the fifth version of its popular, simple, […]

  • Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 may be the end of the series

    Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 released yesterday, and many fans theorise that it marks the end of the series. Five Nights at Freddy’s developer Scott Cawthon has released a new teaser image on his website, but rather than pointing to a new game, many fans believe the teaser signals the end of the series. The […]

  • Source 2 announced, will also be free

    Valve has formally unveiled Source Engine 2, the third major engine to go free to developers at GDC 2015. Source 2 is the successor to the engine Valve has been using since Counter-Strike: Source and Half-Life 2. Valve didn’t have much to say about the technicalities of this long-awaited release. It is apparently focused on […]

  • SteamVR: Valve’s Lighthouse tech allows you to walk around while playing

    SteamVR’s key differentiator is a piece of tech allowing headsets to connect with other devices for extra accurate, room-scale tracking. Valve has announced a new bit of technology called Lighthouse, which it is making freely available to any hardware manufacturer. Like the extra tracking LEDs on Sony’s updated Project Morpheus, Lighthouse improves the headset’s accuracy, […]

  • Steam Machines, Controller, streaming box to launch in November

    Steam Machines will finally become a reality before the end of the year. Valve’s living room PC systems will release in November, the company announced today. Well, I say Valve’s – the idea behind Steam Machines is that a number of manufacturers will offer variously priced systems. Alienware and Falcon Northwest are among the dozen […]

  • Telltale veterans form new team, announce teen thriller Oxenfree

    Oxenfree is a supernatural teen thriller from some of the team behind Telltale Games’ award-winning adventures. New indie Night School Studios unveiled Oxenfree at GDC 2015. It tells the story of a group of friends who accidentally open a “ghostly rift” at an overnight party on the coast. Night School, which is made up of […]

  • PS4 global sales now stand at over 20.2 million

    The PS4 has sold 20.2 million units worldwide. Sony announced the new PS4 sales milestone at GDC 2015 today. It’s a hell of an achievement and salt in the wounds for Microsoft, which hasn’t updated us on Xbox One sales since it shipped “almost” 10 million back in November last year, and has fallen back […]

  • PS4 VR headset Morpheus out in 2016, capable of 120 FPS – video

    Sony’s VR headset Project Morpheus has some impressive grunt. Virtual reality and Morpheus were the heart of Sony’s GDC 2015 presentation today, ahead of its newly announced first-half 2016 comemrcial launch. SCE Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida detailed the headset’s impressive capabilities, notably the fact that it can handle 120 FPS VR games. The PS4 […]

  • Papo & Yo developer making a VR game about dinosaurs

    Some days you write a headline and it makes you so happy that that you have to do a little chair dance, you know what I mean? Papo & Yo developer Minority Media, whom I would personally go to the wall for after they cut out my heart and stomped on it via the medium […]

  • Wasteland 2, Shovel Knight and more in big ole bunch of indies coming to Xbox One

    Xbox One owners are about to receive a pile of great new indie games. At GDC 2015, Microsoft revealed a list of new indie games headed to Xbox One. Some of these titles have already released on other platforms, so it looks like Microsoft has really relaxed the parity clause of ID@Xbox – or perhaps […]

  • Here’s an indie VR game made with Unreal Engine 4

    GDC 2015 is blowing up with indie games, VR and Unreal Engine 4, so here’s a video combining all three. Loading Human is a virtual reality adventure from indie developer Untold Games. It’s in the works for Mac and PC, and Sony has given an early green light for Project Morpheus, too, so expect it […]

  • GTA Online: Daily Objectives and Adversary Mode coming next week

    Heists aren’t the only thing coming to GTA Online next week: players can also expect Adversary Modes, new Daily Objectives and other Freemode activities. GTA Online’s Adversary Modes are new PvP modes which feature a range of competitive challenges and will unlock as players progress through Heists. Here’s a rundown straight from Rockstar: Come Out […]

  • Syndicate is the latest free game download on Origin

    The latest free title to be added to EA’s Origin service is 1993′s Syndicate. For a limited time, you can download the game for free and keep it, much like previous titles such as Theme Hospital. The isometric, real-time, tactical-action game was developed by Bullfrog Productions and released in June 1993. It is a favorite […]

  • Ancient Labyrinth DLC for Lords of the Fallen now available

    The Ancient Labyrinth DLC for Lords of the Fallen is now available for PC, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. It will run you $7.99 and builds upon the existing lore, characters, and storyline. Have a look at some new screenshots in the gallery below.

  • Shadowrun Online gets a name change and release date

    Shadowrun Online developer Cliffhanger Productions has announced the game’s name has been changed to Shadowrun Chronicles: Boston Lockdown and a release date for April has been set. The new title was formed via the developer and its Kickstarter backers, with the goal being to let those unfamiliar with the game know by the title alone […]

  • Amazon hosting Rockstar and 2K Games sale

    Amazon is hosting a Rockstar Games and 2K Games sale with discounts Max Payne titles, Bully and more. Here’s just some of the offerings listed: Manhunt 2 PC Download $3.00 Max Payne 3 PC Download $4.00 Bully: Scholarship Edition PC Download $3.00 LA Noire Xbox 360 $2.95 L.A. Noire: The Complete Edition PC Download $6.00 […]

  • Destiny weekly reset video shows off Inferno Crucible gameplay

    We have a gameplay video featuring Inferno Crucible gameplay featured in the Destiny weekly reset for you. In it, Arekkz Gaming gives you a look at Inferno Crucible and goes over the various intricacies. You can read up on the weekly reset through the links.

  • Resident Evil: Revelations 2 Episode 2 available from today

    Episode 2 for Resident Evil: Revelations 2 is now available. If you’ve purchased the Complete Season, you’ll be able to download Episode 2 on PS3, PS4 and Xbox One. Steam players should see the episode go live around 9-10pm PST, and Xbox 360 owners should be able to download very early tomorrow morning, per Capcom […]

  • Here’s a sneak peek video for Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide

    Fatshark Games has released a sneak peek video for its upcoming Games Workshop title, Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide. Vermintide is a FPS, co-op action title coming to PC, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, and its set during the End Times of the Warhammer universe in the city of Ubersreik. Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare video shows Ascendance DLC early access weapon

    As you know, Xbox Season Pass holders now have early access to the Ascendance DLC Pack bonus weapons for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. Now you can watch a trailer for the weapon. The OHM directed energy hybrid weapon can switch between an LMG and Shotgun “on the fly,” and it also includes the OHM-Werewolf […]

  • March PS Plus games include OlliOlli 2, Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty, more

    March PlayStation Plus titles have popped up on the PS Plus page. Noticed by NeoGAF user skynidas, the titles include: OlliOlli2 (PS4/VITA) Valiant Hearts: The Great War (PS4) Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty (PS4) Counterspy (PS4/PS3) Papo & Yo (PS3) Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishment (PS3) A notice has also been posted on the EU PS […]

  • Sci-fi horror game Caffeine will release on Xbox One, PS4 alongside PC – new trailer

    Caffeine creator Dylan Browne has announced the Unreal Engine 4 game will be released on Xbox One. The game will be published through Microsoft’s Indie Program. As previously announced, it is also coming to PC and and now PlayStation 4. Caffeine is a sci-fi horror game which stars a young boy who has been abandoned […]

  • Xbox 360 Preview program invites going out this month

    Much like the Xbox One Preview program, starting early this month, invites for the Xbox 360 Preview program will start rolling out. Select invitees will be able to join program directly from their Xbox 360. A special Xbox Live message will be sent, directing users to head over to their Settings page. Further instructions are […]