DmC: Devil May Cry sales target slashed by 800k

Noisia. <3

@191: More like the message is “Do not completely change the character’s personality and history, and the franchise’s whole atmosphere and themes, then go on to insult the fans of the franchise for actually caring about seeing those things respected.” I usually don’t call people with certain views openly insulting terms, but at this point the people that keep trying to harp on the idea that all the complaints about DmC center exclusively on the hair color are at best idiots and at worst lying, selfish tools.

However, the hair color change does have some relevance to complaints. The people that ridicule complaints about the hair color do so pretending that the complaints are about a purely cosmetic change. The reality is that since the hair color was a striking element of his unique visual identity, many fans thought of it as a faster, easier way to point out how off-base the entire thing looked throughout the whole trailer. It would have been better to thoroughly point out everything wrong with what was being teased in the trailer, but most people only read a few sentences of a comment, so such a major change to a recognizable part of Dante’s character identity was latched onto by fans to express what was actually a problem with the entire premise and remaking of Dante. Not just his hair.

Basically, the hair was more of a symbol for a whole range of complaints, but people that either couldn’t pick up on that or blindly supported Capcom, Ninja Theory and the reboot started acting like it was the only reason anyone had a problem with DmC, as if changing the game to make the hair of this “Dante” white from the start would have instantly made everyone love the game. I’m fairly sure that if Capcom hadn’t tried to “reboot” the series, and had instead made a prequel where Dante overall looked and behaved as expected for him, most people would have been fine with Dante having a “normal” hair color that becomes white during the game.

In before: Old DMC Fans are spoiled brats.

@202, His hair still turns white though? And it looks as if it still will, considering it’s linked to his powers… So firstly, I don’t see why the hair thing would be an issue at all.

Can you also just explain how Dante doesn’t “behave as expected for him”? Because from what I know of the character this young version of him seems to fit pretty well with what the older Dante seems like.

I am basing that more on the manga than anything as the old DMC games didn’t do much for me.

@204: The last sentence of my comment you replied to answers your first paragraph.

For your second paragraph: http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Dante_%28DmC%29#Personality .

“a more vulgar and spiteful tone.”

“Dante is very anti-social, rebellious and laid back. Living on the periphery of society and caught between two worlds, he feels like an outcast. Young and angry, but with a quick wit and black humor”

“He has no qualms with engaging in debauchery and other hedonistic acts, mostly because he believes he won’t be around for too much longer”

I’ll just link to the entry for Dante instead of taking out quotes, because it’s so big: http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Dante#Personality . Dante’s personality sometimes has minor changes across games (except DMC2 where he was written as overly serious… which almost nobody liked), but he was never excessively vulgar, he was never into “debauchery and other hedonistic acts,” he never made a big thing about being an “outcast” (he did have a few issues with being half-demon and half-human in the first game, but it wasn’t something he took overly serious) and he was never of the “young and angry” type. “Black humor” may be the same as usual Dante quips like one-liners after defeating an enemy, but I usually take black humor as more severe and mean-spirited than what Dante normally does.

People got inklings of this being the new “Dante” from that first trailer, which was what many complaints were really about at the core of them.

@205, Yeah I read the Dante wiki entry already, I still don’t get a completely different vibe.

And this makes no sense to me: “he was never of the “young and angry” type”. I don’t understand why it’s so much trouble to think of Dante as mellowing into the old Dante…

Like most people who grow up, they realise they don’t need to swear and curse in order to be “cool”. New Dante clearly shows the same wit as original-Dante, just with a younger rebellious tone. It’s not changing the character completely, it’s just giving him more depth offering a side to him which, personally, I find a little more interesting.

@206: In real life, you’re absolutely correct that people can “mellow” as they get older, but when you’re dealing with fiction, people expect the character to be largely similar over time. And if they aren’t, they expect to directly see that change happen over time, not go from one characterization to another immediately. Also, this game being a “reboot” actually set fans even more on guard because that meant there was an even greater chance that this “Dante” would never become the real Dante. And for all fans knew, this “Dante” would keep the same personality from DmC in every game to come after.

However, I disagree with the notion that most people grow up thinking they need to swear and curse to be “cool.” Some people do that, but not most.