DmC: Devil May Cry sales target slashed by 800k

It’s depressing to say the least. DmC is easily the best in the series and deserves better sales. I still hope Capcom doesn’t bend in to crying “fans” and gives NT another go, because i’m definitely not going back to old Dante.

Bare in mind that DMC4 came out in 2008 which was way early in the generation.

Games are just doing badly across the board especially since we’re readying for new consoles, unless you’re a CoD or Fifa game then you don’t tend to do well.

I wouldn’t blame this on the DmC hate that the so-called ‘fans’ have put onto it, they are bitter for no good reason. This reboot is an excellent game and has brought me back to the series since i haven’t touched it since the first game.

@2 Yep it’s a generation thing in the majority, as shown by Square’s financials today and the THQ collapse. Although ‘fans’ will argue that Ninja Theory deserved it for betraying them.

Because you know, any developer who suffers is hilarious, right? It’s not like these are people’s jobs we’re talking about.

@2: Wasn’t DMC4 also part of a console bundle?

Agree with #1 and #2, the game is great and most complaints I read seem to be based on hearsay and what they want/think the game should fail at. While at the same time, putting the original games on some kind of pedestal, when really, they were just about average at best.

oversaturation. thats all. and good games are getting fucked because of this.

@3: Well Dave, it’s their fault for not listening to the Fans! Fuck the people who believe in their vision, fuck them and their integrity! I want my developers to be whores who only deliver Fanservice!

@7, It’s not fanservice. They ruined the camera, ruined a greatly deep and entertaining character, and they changed the hair! THEY CHANGED THE HAIR!

@7 well no, it’s not. Capcom and Ninja Theory BOTH fleshed out the game’s concept. Ninja Theory wouldn’t have had the power to say no to Capcom. It was paying their fee.

But people will see it that way.

Glad you liked it mate. I certainly did. I never took offense to it, even back at TGS when it got revealed. I didn’t like DmC 4 at all. Thought it was weak and in need of a reboot.

@8: Dunno if it’s just my cold, but my laugh sounded dirtier than usual.

@9: I’m aware of that, i’m still impressed that Capcom stood behind it all, even with the negative reactions.

It’s funny, though i didn’t like DMC4 as a whole, i thought it had the best Dante until DmC came out.

It literally took them 4 games to make a proper Dante. Dante in DMC3 was the worst of the bunch. I hated that kid so goddamn much.

Ninja Theory didn’t deserve this, heck I am more worried about Ninja Theory than DMC Franchise, their games aren’t performing really well, even though they are making high quality titles.

TBH I want Capcom to go back to the old DMC, I want something like DMC3, I want Vergil back, heck they should make a spin off game about Vergil, I would totally buy that game (DMC3 Vergil not DmC Vergil)

@YoungZero: if Capcom doesn’t bend to those you call “crying fans”, it will keep losing money, look at RE6 and you will see, I know you love DmC and I respect that, but please don’t go insulting fans of the series.

@KrazyKraut: there is no oversaturation, January was a great month for any game to be a great success, and there is still alot of time till Metal Gear Rising and God of War Ascension comes out, Hack n Slash games are not as many as say FPS.

@11, So basically you’re saying that the game isn’t doing well because Capcom didn’t bend to the fans of the original?

So, rather than support the company that makes one of their favourite franchises by playing/buying something a little different to what they’re used to, they would rather just see the game and most likely the franchise DOA?

Gamers really are creatures of habit. Try and mix things up unless they want it and you’re practically the devil (may cry, boom!)…

bomba

*Goes straight to Amazon to order copy*

@14: Fuck it, i’m buying the PC version too.

Also pointing out that if this was DMC5 rather than a reboot, I probably wouldn’t even be reading this article. I lost interest in the series ages ago and am only looking at this one because it’s a new take. And I’ve no doubt I’m not the only only one. Might not be selling too well but still the right move on Capcom’s end.

@12: that’s part of the problem yes, but bend is a rather strong word, anyway you should know better, any company should focus on it’s original fans first then expand.

when you have a huge fan base, where most of them say the change isn’t what they wanted, then yeah, Capcom was certainly doing something wrong, not every change is something we must get, otherwise we will be getting shit from every company in the name of change.

Gamers are great, but they are fed up with companies trying to shove what they think is right down their throat.

@17 “Gamers are great”

I respectfully disagree there. Many of them appear to be whiny fanboys at the best of times who throw their toys out of the pram when a studio does something that haven’t consented to.

Shame as I have been really enjoying playing this, Ninja Theory have made a very good game imo

@15 And you should. It’s a very good port.

BTW, Fisher, have you played the new DmC? Just curious.

@18: yeah sure, but the majority are reasonable people, there are tons of whiny fanboys, there is no denying that, and they do get annoying, but for the most part if you visit a forum you can find people who bring good points and criticizes the game in a very mature way.

@DreamCleaver: Nope I didn’t, I wasn’t interested in what Capcom was doing, in one point it became kinda interesting, but not to the point of buying it, so no I didn’t buy the game, probably won’t, and oh I didn’t buy DMC4 either

& just to be clear, I am not here to hate on Ninja Theory, I like these guys, Enslaved was a great game, I loved that.

@18 Quite true.

@17, It’s funny that sequels only kill the industry when it suits gamers.

What’s more funny is I really don’t see what’s that wrong or different with this Dante over the old one, except he is funnier and more entertaining. Not to mention the game itself is generally better gameplay-wise.

@21 I agree. There are many good points being made on this thread.

@23 And with much better animations and voice actors.

@17: But that’s the thing, there are millions of fans and they all like the series for different reasons. The games combat should be what it’s all about, but apparently it’s not. It’s the character who always has been a different in every game, it’s the architecture, or the story.

Apparently watching Youtube videos seems to be enough to say anything about the combat.

And i think this is actually a game that does it right. There is no useless multiplayer, no tacked-on coop mode bullshit. Just the game.

The combat might not be as deep, but it’s FUCKING FUN and yes, i’m having way more fun with this than the previous DMC’s. The story makes sense and it has huge potential which will be used (unlike in any of the previous dmcs) if NT is getting the chance to make another DMC.

I mean it’s all there now. Humanity is not really prepared for the demon invasion. Dante has a reason to fight. He could open his demon hunter business now and start taking contracts.

And Dante gave up some of his cool to be finally relatable now (Though even i have to admit that he could’ve used some more memorable quotes).

For first time ever in a DMC game, i gave a shit about the story! None of the previous games managed to do that. Even if you don’t like the character, you can relate to him. I take an unlikable but understandable character compared to and overly cool character any day.

At the end of the day, this is sad news for everyone, because we’re sending a clear message here. Give us poorly done HD collections, give us tacked on multiplayer for games like ME3. Give us shit and we will buy it, defy us, do something new with an old franchise and we will punish you.

Games like Dead Space 3, which feature microtransaction and tacked-on coop will sell millions more. We’re digging our own graves.

@25, Let’s just say it’s a “all round” better game. Because that really is the truth. I don’t know why people would want to go back to old Dante.

The funny thing is, I can easily see this Dante growing into old Dante which kinda makes him seem better. The main difference between the two is he’s young, cocky, immature and loud with his arrogance in this game.

@26: sure there are different reasons for every fan, but you will find many points where they come together and agree on something.

Maybe DMC stories and characters didn’t appeal to you, but it appealed to many others, DMC3 had a great story and great character -you hated young Dante there- I loved Dante back then, so now it is the same, your opinion is that DmC story is great and filled with potential, I am pretty sure others will disagree, their opinion will be that the game story isn’t that great or something, I didn’t play the game, so I can’t judge the story, and in terms of Ninja Theory history, Enslaved had an amazing story, but Heavenly Swords had a so-so story with a very bad dialogue writing, so I can’t judge DmC Story.

But the thing remain, the new DmC didn’t appeal to the majority of fans, attracted tons of negative feedback and reactions, and even though it had fairly positive reviews, it still lacks strong sales.

Edit: new doesn’t mean good, again as you see the new done with DMC wasn’t good enough, it wasn’t interesting enough, and it reflects on the sales.

As for Dead Space 3, let’s wait and see how it does, I for one won’t be buying it till the price drops or something, cause EA is forcing Action on me, Action that I don’t want, let’s see what the other fans have to say, also I believe DS2 sold lower than DS1, so yeah DS3 can even sell less, who knows.

@20: I know, i’ve played it before. It runs smooth as fuck and plays excellent even on mouse and keyboard.

http://youtu.be/kXrP_MDW2E0

@26 *claps*

@27 Yes, I think so as well.

“I didn’t like DmC 4 at all. Thought it was weak and in need of a reboot.”

That was the over-riding thought I went away with, from 4. While there were positives to find there, it felt a little tired, and, I just hoped they’d get something new in. They did. They shocked a lot of people, myself included, (though Dante’s “interrogation” reveal did not leave me with a negative reaction, but one of interest to see what might be shown next -How this character would translate when introduced into gameplay- and wonderment.)

It was encouraging to learn of the approval of Capcom, and that there was a level of appreciation from NT of what came before, and I began to notice their Dante retaining character style of the original in some ways. A big plus was their determination, where they could have half-done things, but didn’t, they carried on making their own game. I’ve bought it, and I’m confident that when I get to playing, it will be plenty of fun

@28: But do you think it deserves the extreme negative reactions, just because it didn’t give in to all the of the fans demands?

I honestly just don’t care anymore. Its a cyclical argument of stupidity, all good points on both sides are reduced to stating opinions as facts and despairing at people looking backwards.

Stupendously stupid statements flying all over the place “I hope they never go back to old Dante or I would shit my pants in sheer indignanance.” “I hope Ninja Theory shut down.” “Its about the hair lel intentional troll”.

I don’t like the game, I don’t feel the need to pay the full asking price to confirm that I dislike it, I have watched, read and demo’d thats more than enough for me to have a half decent grasp over whether or not I’ll enjoy it. I don’t think I will. I loved the old series, I doubt it will ever return this game has placed an unremovable mark against it. DMC created a genre, one that was pretty damn exclusive now its not even a part of the genre it created.

#32: define extreme, cause there were hate, insults, curses, and death threats, I am opposed to that.

But then there was feedback, tons of negative feedback, sometimes strong negative feedback, which isn’t a problem IMO.

If the company doesn’t care about the fanbase, I wonder who they should care about.

“one that was pretty damn exclusive now its not even a part of the genre it created.”

How can you say this?

What really gets me is that these so called “fans” think this is going to see Capcom create a “proper” Devil May Cry 5. It’s far more likely that the franchise is simply going to be shelved indefinitely.

Though frankly, this is Capcom’s fault in the first place, seeing how they managed to pretty much single handedly haemorrhage every ounce of creative talent they ever existed in the company. They don’t *have* anyone capable of making a “proper” sequel left in the company.

Mind you, I had no problems with DmC. I’m aware of its flaws, but I still think it’s a great game regardless.

“I honestly just don’t care anymore. Its a cyclical argument of stupidity, all good points on both sides are reduced to stating opinions as facts and despairing at people looking backwards”

Quite true to be honest…

As I don’t like games and developers fail, I can’t deny that I expected this.
I played DmC 4 times and downloaded even the new skin pack…
The game is good, but not fun neither challenging for a fan of the series.
I think a lot of people around here is in total denial.
I went back to play DevilMayCry4, that it’s not my favourite DevilMayCry, and realized how much better a 5 years old game is compared to DmC.
DevilMayCry4 shits all over DmC.
Not only the gameplay is miles above the one of DmC, but even the graphic still holds its own and the performance is stable.
The story in DevilMayCry4 isn’t that great and is poorly written, but the characterization is far better than DmC and even the voice over is far far better.
So DevilMayCry4, that is worse than 1 and 3 is better than DmC.
I think 5 years have made you all forget.
Go back to play the old games than replay DmC and see how shallow and tasteless and wrong it is.

“but the characterization is far better than DmC and even the voice over is far far better.”

*blinks in disbelieve*

@39 Indeed.

@38 I did. The first one has aged horribly, the second one is still garbage, the third one is still brilliant, and the fourth one is alright as long as you ignore the fact that you’re just playing through the game in reverse for half of it.

It depresses me that it was Capcom again that messed up DMC4 by shoving it out the door before it was finished. Its such a rush job in almost every aspect apart from the combat.

Oh and the environment, it might be static as hell but it wasn’t half pretty as hell.

@41: What makes you think it was rushed?

@36 I prefer to see the series die than seeing it crippled and terminally ill like it is now.
DmC is a good game, yes, I concede it to you.
As an stylish action game (so compared to other DevilMayCry titles, Bayonetta and Metal Gear Rising) it is shameful to say the least.
The lack of lock on and the Ikaruga mechanics alone put it into the brawler kind of action game, together with God Of War.
A stylish counter doesn’t make a game stylish, just like a distorted guitar doesn’t make a band metal.
What makes a game stylish?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/930014-devil-may-cry-3-special-edition/faqs/40790
I think Ninja Theory didn’t even gave a read at stuff like that because they were too presumptuos.
Though…I must say that the thing that impressed me more on DmC was the jump button, a feature that their previous games didn’t even had.

@42 Besides the fact that the second half of the game reuses the exact same levels and enemies as the first half..?

@43 I can’t particularly agree with the God of War comparison. While I do think the Ikaruga mechanics limits combo potential, DmC still have a certain degree of strategic depth that God of War has never even *pretended* to posses, not even in the slightest. DmC isn’t *completely* brainless.

DMC4?

Theres a fair bit of information floating about detailing the sheer level of cut content. Some of it is actually in the artbook released for the game.

Yeah it is the best in the series. More from YoungZero.

1) No lock on feature,
2) dumb characters,
3) dumb story,
4) dumbed down gameplay,
5) stupid cutscenes and 5-8 minutes of gameplay for each chapter,
6) unrewarding boss fights without any strategy at all,
7) simple difficulty modes
8 ) simple combo mechanic for douchebags.

“DmC: Devil May Cry sales target slashed by 800k”

is a result of all of this shit. If the franchise will Die, that’s great (which won’t happen for many reasons. First of all Capcom didn’t tried to make a fifth game in the series from original devs + we have Reveangence and Bayonetta 2 from other great devs so nothing to worry about), If Capcom will make a new Devil May Cry with original devs, That’s great too, but I’m happy that we won’t see that POS from NT again. AWESOME.

@44: But isn’t excessive backtracking something the series is known for?

@47 Not really. At most you would have to walk around the same area a bit (most apparent in DMC2), but you were almost always moving forward through the levels, not back.

DMC4 was a lesson in lazy game design.

@39
No man, the dialogue is so poorly written and repetitive and the voice acting so shallow and bland that it’s atrocious.
Mind you, I’m from Italy but I play my games in English because the translation/dubbing in Italian is baaaad, and never, never, never I heard a worse voice acting than in DmC, were sentences are half said, semi whispered and it seems to hear a drunken guy with a potato in his mouth instead of Dante.
I had to turn the English subtitles on, when I didn’t had to use them for Little Jacobs on GTAIV since he was much moar intelligible and I don’t even know where to start with gangsta lingo.

@40
So you confirm that games that have 5-7 years can still hold their own with DmC.
This for me is a big fail.

@48: Oh okay. I wouldn’t know, to be honest, because i stopped playing the game when i had to play as Dante.