Dead Space 3 has 11 pieces of day-one DLC

Absolutely fucking despicable!

@1

No one is forcing you to buy these. They don’t effect you in the slightest while you play.

@2: Oh shut up. People like you are the reason why we will continue to see shit like this in the future. Stop apologizing for their insane greed.

“Dead Space 3 has 11 pieces of day-one DLC”
Greek God has 11 reasons not to buy D3 day 1

well said YoungZero

@2 True, but seeing that so many gamers have money to burn on ludicrous things, this kind of business affects other games too.

So…”Pimp ma bot ” DLC ?Awesome.

The problem is they’ve got away with it in other EA brands, namely the sports titles where people are/were happy to pay to unlock advantages they would’ve otherwise had to wait for or miss out on. The wallet voting has already been done long before now so please don’t be misguided enough to think that by avoiding this, the situation will change. It won’t. But personally T.G above mirrored my thoughts.

Ea are by far the worst at this sort of thing. Totally killed battelfield for me.

Man, I fucking HATE the : ‘if you don’t like it don’t buy it’ attitude!

Makes me rage big time.

It’s exactly the wrong fucking style and exactly why we are seeing more of this shit.

Of course I don’t have to buy it, what I do have however;

Is putting up with fucking pop ups and adverts asking me to buy shit or download stuff in what’s supposed to be a survival horror game (completly breaking immersion)… I don’t want to be reminded every 5 seconds I can buy a weapon with real world money…

Also, the amount of games I’ve played that don’t let you play co-op because you haven’t downloaded the same shit as the other person is crazy.

The Market solves everything. If people buy it, it will continue. If they dont- it wont. I don’t really like it and I want everything to come with my $60 copy of the game.

Don’t want to see stuff like this anymore?- don’t buy it ( I know, I’m speaking to the choir on this one.)

I’ve said before, if they want to do this- fine, but at least make the game $40 on release day. It will never happen, but I can dream. My prediction? This will go over big and we will se A LOT more of this kind of things from devs in the future.

Where’s someone with a custom YO DAWG, I HEARD… meme for this when you need them?

@9, Then disconnect from the internet and enjoy your game offline. That is after all the experience you’re going for?

You might hate the “don’t like it, don’t buy it” attitude but it goes just the same for the people that have to listen to the same old “cash grab” “nickel and dime” attitudes, when some gamers are completely unaffected by this style of business.

I loved Dead Space 2, and am looking forward to playing 3, but this doesn’t sound good at all.

The first and last upgrades can hopefully be ignored (it is survival horror after all, you’re supposed to be just scraping by) but I really don’t like the implication that the bot that will apparently be following you around everywhere is in need of a ‘personality upgrade’. Does that mean it will be an annoying dick unless you cough up $5?

And if there’s pop-ups & ads in game as MG suggested, I will be seriously turned off.

this is a free-to-play model without the free

They will never have my money.

If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

These things only exist because they make money. If people stop buying them, they go away.

I guess those hats in TF2 were also very cheap ?

@16 but people wont stop buying them and it wont go away.

Wow .. , the funny thing is that their basically giving people another reason not to buy the game which desperately needs the sales to continue as a franchise , if they did this with Battlefield or other big franchises it would’ve been more reasonable ( not saying it’s right ) , but Dead Space ? people play this game for the single player , who in their right mind would pay for this disgusting rip-off DLC’s !

@KAP: I know I don’t have to buy them, and I won’t. I’ve already pre-ordered the game, and it hasn’t occurred to me once to cancel my order, because I know I’ll love the game. But from a pure consumer’s rights point of view, I really wish I had it in my to boycott a game I really wanna play for the common good.

There are a lot of people out there who will pay this, and I’m sure they have plenty of disposable income, so more power to them. But I don’t wanna support a company who thinks it’s okay to so shamelessly fleece its customers. They’re out there right now trying to figure out better ways to fuck us too right now.

Of course, business are trying to make money, so you could definitely argue that there’s no moral angle to be discussed here, but I would disagree with that strongly. In any other business, a company would work hard to maintain the image that it values its customers and does its best to keep them by providing them with a quality product at a competitive price.

Even if you think Apple’s profit margins are crazy, this DLC is $5 of almost pure profit. That’s unforgivable, and the fact that apologists like KAP feel the need to defend this as a reasonable business move is really disturbing…

So, pony up some cash for a boost through the campaign. There are probably scores of eager teens out there who just want to blast through the game and complete it in the shortest possible time. You know, the ones that skip every cut-scene and couldn’t give two shits about the overarching narrative.

Yep. Fuck EA in the ass with a rotten zombie leg.

It won’t change unless people stop buying this shit. But they will. And thus it’ll continue. Aaaah the future of AAA gaming…

@2
Ofc…. gtfo

Also, 5 BUCKS for each pack? 5 fucking dollars for each of these?! Are you kidding me? If they were 50 cents almost everyone would get them. $1, most would at least consider it. But $5 a piece. Why not just bend me over the counter when I go in to buy the game and get it over with?

@20, But it’s only pure profit if people buy it. And you’re not being forced to buy it, it’s the customer’s choice and their decision on whether this is good value or not.

They are not making money off people who don’t buy this stuff so I don’t see what the problem is?

Stop eating that shit!

But this shit is delicious, you don’t have to look at me eating shit. My shit eating does not affect you at all!

Yeah, we wash it down with all your tears.

:’(

I’ll slap that back of your hands!

I can’t wait to see adverts slapped all over the back of every bench in the game, you too could make your gun cool for only £5.

Wait they have Pounds in space? I guess thats pretty cool I suppose, why does this bench know that I need new weapons? Why does this bench want me to make weapons on it anyway seeing as the original models from the first game were Engineering work spaces?

Had this game on pre order from amazon.
Just cancelled it after reading the post, not
keen on gaving an EA account/origin either.

So what ye’re saying is the problem isn’t with EA, it’s with the people who buy stuff like this?

@29 I think the problem is with the two of them: if you buy it, they make it, if they make it, you buy it. Remove one of them from the loop and you end it. And I don’t think EA is going anywhere.

I just cancelled my pre-order because of everyone complaining. I hope the game flops and EA go out of business so I get no more trp-A games and simply rely on indies and Kickstarter games because they’re honest and true!

Yeah!

You should buy Medal of Honour Warfighter. I hear thats a pretty good Triple A title.

@31 Is it too much to ask for triple A game, but without DLCs? I don’t want EA to stop making games, I want DLC to be extinct and we get back our beloved Expansions, that had content worth paying for.

@33, Buy the game, ignore the DLC and then trade in your original for the GOTY edition and call all the included DLC an expansion.

Amazing, you can have the good old days with some selective purchasing.

@viral: Which are you arguing:

a) EA is doing nothing wrong or distasteful, or

b) Stop voicing your opinion because you are not directly affected by this.

If it is neither a) nor b), please explain what you’re getting at.

Its basically “this does not bother me, and I have no idea how it could possibly bother anyone else. The fate of triple-A games development hangs on the inclusion of micro-transactions and DLC. Stop being so entitled.”

I think.

@1 I agree but its the nature of online distribution now. Paying for cheat codes

This is why I don’t concern myself with dlc BS.

@TG, I would have to go with A. I don’t think there is anything wrong or distasteful with this. They want to make money, they have included an option to do so which people will take advantage of either because they need to or want to, that’s their choice.

It also doesn’t impact on the players that don’t agree with this and they can make EA see that point of view by actively not paying for it.

The activists against this seem a lot more inclined to make out the “apologists” opinion is wrong because they’re somehow selling out or buying in to some sort of nickel and diming. Are you going to tell me based on the above comments that doesn’t seem to be the case?

Because it looks to me like you’re trying to tell people what they should and shouldn’t spend their money on, I’m just saying it’s their choice to do so.

@viralshag, I see what you’re saying man, but they’ve taken a step too far here.

What concerns me is that in Dead Space 4 or 5 or 6 I won’t be able to finish the game without spending additional funds into an already over-priced game (EA are charging £39.99 for DS3 on PC, the absolute highest end of the spectrum, despite getting to keep all that tasty Origin margin).

Are we really happy to see gaming head down a path where full priced releases are intentionally balanced in such a manner that they’re excessively hard or nigh impossible to complete without dropping another £20 into vapour-”DLC”? It’s not a pretty thought.

@40 Agreed and like Theevilaires said, now we pay for cheat codes.

You people know whats the best thing about all this? Pirates get it for free and don’t have to put up with this nonsense.

@TG, I’m not going to argue with you on the price of the PC version, in comparison to other games that is high. And because I can compare it to other games that is a fact. It not the first time they have launched a pricy game either, just look at TOR, BF3 and SimCity.

However saying that, I know people will still pay that price and to some people that will be because they think the value is worth it. I understand that you think it’s probably not, I get that, I just don’t think our opinion of the value and quality of the goods makes that a fact. And to me, the same applies to the DLC.

I also think people should wait to play the game before damning the DLC options. Like I just said in the ME3 article, I think their real money pack purchase options is mostly great, I’ve spent real money to buy packs here and there when I didn’t feel like grinding out some games. My only problem with that is the gamble, in that real money still buys me random gear which might not actually include a new character or weapon.

The Sad Truth is that EA just gives the People what they want. The Vote with your Wallet has already happen and now we have President Dean L. Chambers in Charge.

I don’t like hime, but well, a lot of Peopele do and they won.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/11/15

@viral: I think that I’m not making my point well enough here so I’ll try to sum it up in 2 points:

1) It’s my belief that the company customer relationship is, the company gives me a good that I want, and I pay for that good, and allow the company to make a reasonable profit off the back of that.

Depending on the product, that margin might be 5%, 10% or maybe even 20/30%. The size of the profit margin should depend on the particulars of the product, but in this case, the profit margin for that DLC must be like 99% or maybe even 99.9%.

Of course calculating something like this is extremely nebulous, but there’s no way you could argue that $10 is a fair price for a couple of numerical stat boosts considering what you get for $60 – a full game, with script, acting, story, art assets, a lot of programming.

2) The game devs have a vested interest in making collecting resources in the game difficult/laborious and/or time consuming. Am I to believe that they wouldn’t do such a thing because they’re nice guys over at Visceral? That conflict of interest – between making a fun game, and making a game where purchasable assets is favorable – is very worrying for me as a games enthusiast, and it should be to you too. It’s the thin end of the wedge…

TO SUMMARISE AGAIN:

1) It’s way too expensive. If it were a buck each, I’d be less inclined to winge.

2) It MUST have had an effect on the game’s development. It WILL affect me.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6755-Breaking-the-Bones-of-Business

@46

You can’t say it “MUST” have had an effect on the game’s development, any more than I can say it had ABSOLUTELY NO effect on the game’s development.

Well, I think I can. If a neutrino flies in the window of the Visceral studio, it must have an effect.

Let’s say some dev says, “I’ve been thinking… The resources in the game are a little bit scarce, and players are getting annoyed and frustrated. Let’s just give everybody the resources pack that we were going to sell…”

Do you really think that the financial side of it wouldn’t cross their minds? C’mon man…

I used to work at a school where I was supposed to sell books for a bonus. Now, the books were actually pretty god, but because I had a financial interest in selling the books, I always wondered to what extent that conflict of interest affected me.

The bottom line is, I don’t know to what extent, but I know that it couldn’t be zero, even with the best will in the world. And in that case, I had a solid wage. This only amounted to a bonus. In Visceral’s case, they stand to make a fortune, the profitability is epic…

@TG, I think with regards to your first point that’s something most people wouldn’t concern themself with. Back in the day the idea of making money like that didn’t exist but markets move on and companies will always create revenues of profit based on what they can get away with.

In my industry (oil and gas) we sell our main products at 20-40% profit, additional non-material extras at 100% profit and spares at something like a further 40-60% margin.

I guess you could say we’re ripping people off but we’re providing something at what customers are willing to pay in order for us to make the best profit.

EA aren’t doing anything different. Like #44 said, EA are offering what people want and are willing to pay for. That doesn’t mean you have to like it but it also doesn’t mean they are doing something wrong.