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Sony ditching DualShock controller with PS4 – rumor

Friday, 18 January 2013 14:28 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Sony plans to retire its DualShock controller with PlayStation 4, according to a CVG source.

The site spoke with a studio source working on a Sony title, which claimed various design ideas are being mulled around the company. Some are similar to the current controller while others contain an LCD touch screen and others are more avant-garde, such as one featuring biometrics.

One only has to look at the Sony controller patents which have popped up over the last several months to get an idea of what its R&D department is concocting.

However, we’ll not know anything for sure until Sony announces a new console and controller, or until someone breaks the NDA.

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73 Comments

  1. freedoms_stain

    Let the anti-dualshock mission statements BEGIN!

    #1 2 years ago
  2. theevilaires

    Pleassssssse I want the boomerang it looked awesome.

    http://megagames.com/sites/default/files/game-content-images/ps3contrllrdtls_l1.jpg

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Ireland Michael

    I bloody hope so. The controller is an outdated relic.

    I just hope they’re going to put effort into designing a serious new controller, and not trying something utterly ridiculous and off the wall.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Gadzooks!

    About bloody time! It’s appalling that they didn’t redesign it for the PS3. So very lazy.

    I like the dual Move design, but with a screen in between. All snaps together/apart. Covers all bases.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Elven_Star

    Dunno. I really love the Dual Shock feel but maybe they can come up with something even better, who knows.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Gheritt White

    About bloody time.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. woe

    So its going to be another Wii U controller?

    #7 2 years ago
  8. HauntaVirus

    Thank goodness, way overdue.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. viralshag

    Agree with 3 & 4, I can’t stand using the DualShock pads. One of the reasons I drifted away from PS and more to Xbox was the design of the pads.

    Admittedly, the first Xbox pad was an unsightly brick but I still liked it and the smaller second version was awesome.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. OlderGamer

    Good deal.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. theevilaires

    LMAO look at all the people in here who prefer the 360 over PlayStation comment. What does it matter the controller is getting changed you still can’t play your precious Halo with it. Pure losers I swear.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. killersense

    as long as it is not similar to the xbox one i am fine. I personally don’t like the xbox360 controller. feels bulky and the dpad is horrible.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. freedoms_stain

    AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Called it.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Ireland Michael

    @11 People are criticising the controller because they actually enjoy the experience Sony provides on the PS3 and want to see thar experience get better , not because of some personal bias against Sony.

    @12 Agreed entirely on the D-pad, although the D-Pad itself has really sort of been relegated to second function controls in recent years in most genres. I do hope they keep that as good though, if this rumour even turns out to be true.

    The buttons on the PlayStation controllers are still the best of all the controllers – the perfect amount of control and pressure. It’s the design, shape, thumsticks and triggers that are a mess.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. viralshag

    @12, The d-pad is the weakest part of the pad but I always felt like the DualShock positioned the d-pad where an anolog stick should be. I always felt like I was playing with claw hands…

    #15 2 years ago
  16. tmac2011

    lol a screen in a controller still sounds stupid…..

    #16 2 years ago
  17. G1GAHURTZ

    Took ‘em long enough…

    #17 2 years ago
  18. monkeygourmet

    Dualshock is for 2D games, 3D games are an after thought.

    The dual shock was created to combat the N64 pad, another nice original idea from Sony.

    The left 3D stick should be moved now that the focus is on 3D games.

    Just had a quick bash on Uncharted 3, pad is absolutely awful. Very loose and almost ruins the game or any game IMO.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. G1GAHURTZ

    Tbh, I like the looseness.

    Gives a better feeling of control for twitch shooters. It takes a while to get used to, though…

    #19 2 years ago
  20. theevilaires

    @14 You people enjoy the experience SONY provides? LMFAO, all you guys do is bash SONY day in and out on this site(and many others I’m sure). You’re not here to give any positive feed back you want to take a dig at the controller you feel is inferior to your new personal favorite which is that junk piece of crap 360 controller.

    O’Connor you can dress up in sheep clothing all you want around here but we all smell your stench that lurks underneath your disguise. SONY doesn’t have to change anything about the DS3 but the number to 4 and it’ll still be the most preferred controller out of the 3 or coming up 4 consoles.

    Theres a reason why it has not changed since you moron.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Erthazus

    I actually like Dual-Shock controller. Have no issues with it. In my opinion it’s much better for fighting games and hack and slash games then with Xbox controller.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Telepathic.Geometry

    The weakest point of the dual shock is the analogues. Nub is too big, and the sensitivity is balls. If they only fixed that I’d be happy enough…

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Ireland Michael

    @20 We bash the company when it makes idiotic mistakes. (which happens to be all the time)

    We praise them when they release great, revolutionary, industry defining games. (which happens to be all the time)

    #23 2 years ago
  24. theevilaires

    ^ you’re an idiot you know that.

    Please stop trying to sound like you’re some logical scholar because you’re not

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Sadismek

    I like the Dual Shock aswell. The analogue sticks could be better though, but the rest is really okay in my opinion. A change is welcome, though.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. theevilaires

    It just amazes me how people played the PS1 and PS2 for over a decade and didn’t complain. The only reason why I wouldn’t mind them changing it is because I feel the PlayStation number trilogy is over and the next PlayStation probably won’t be named 4. So with that start fresh but make it awesome and if people complain give them the option to use the DualShock3 on the next PlayStation.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. viralshag

    @26, I complained about it as soon as I heard the PS3 wasn’t going to change their design. I never owned a Nintendo console after the SNES so getting the Xbox and their pad was the first time I had anything to compare it too.

    And the positioning of their buttons and analog sticks was a lot more comfortable, in my opinion.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. ps3fanboy

    if they make the dualshok more like the crap box controller they can bet their ass on, that they will see me drifting away to steambox…

    #28 2 years ago
  29. theevilaires

    @27 and you’re entitled to your opinion but some people see this article as a chance to bash SONY even more as if they don’t listen to their fanbase or never attempted a new controller style. When the boomerang was first unveiled people bitched and SONY changed it back and people were happy. They’re not going to keep wasting money on R&D for a new controller.

    If it isn’t broke don’t fix it. I want the 360 to change its controller for the 720 but does gadzooks feel the same way?…..hell no. To him that abomination is perfect and to me the DualShock is perfect. I Guarantee you if people don’t like this new PlayStation controller its going right back to being the DualShock 4.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Ireland Michael

    @29 We’re bashing what we consider a terrible controller.

    “you’re entitled to your opinion”

    ” entitled to your opinion”

    “your opinion”

    “opinion”

    The Xbox controller could do with numerous improvements – the D-Pad, the overly sticky action buttons, too much general bulkiness, lack of analogue function in the buttons. etc. etc.

    This article isn’t about the Xbox controller.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. Belmont

    LCD display on the controller is rather cool. but it largely depends on how well they pull it off. I don’t know about biometric. I also occasionally think sixaxis in the current controller could have been used way better.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. Clupula

    This would be stupid. They get rid of the Dualshock, it’s an automatic no-sale for me. Closest thing there’s ever been to a perfect controller. It’s the right size, the sticks are made for people who don’t have deformed mutant hands with thumbs in two different places. The only thing that could make it better is 6 buttons on the right instead of 4.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Clupula

    Also, I’m not even sure what that abomination in the picture above is supposed to be.

    #33 2 years ago
  34. viralshag

    @29, The difference I guess, is that while MS and Ninty have changed and improved (opinion I guess) their pads each gen while Sony only added analog sticks to the same design they’ve always had.

    Plus during the PS1/2 days, they were the dominant console whereas there is more choice and options, there have been improvements in control pads.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. Ireland Michael

    @34 Stop using actual logical thinking, viral. You’ll cause the entire universe to implode in on itself if you keep doing that!

    #35 2 years ago
  36. mistermogul

    I personally think the 360 controller is the best to date. Anything similar to that would be good with the thumbsticks in the same position.

    Thanks Sony!

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Clupula

    @36 – I’m sorry, my hands are symmetrical. I never understand how someone can enjoy the thumbsticks being in two different places.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Bomba Luigi

    I Love the PS3, I love the PS3 exclusive Games, but the Controller is a terrible Thing. I use it to play the Great Games, but the Experience could obvious be better with a Controller that feels good.

    Of course some People like it. But just because I don’t like it dosn’t mean I want to Bash Sony. I want Sony to become better.

    Its like telling a Kid to be nice to other People. Its not a Bash against the Kid.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. Sadismek

    @38 Well said!

    #39 2 years ago
  40. Clupula

    @38 – But you see, here’s the thing. To us, it’s not better. I hate the 360 controller. It’s big and shaped weird and the d-pad is crap. I love the Dualshock. If Sony don’t use a Dual Shock next gen, I won’t buy their system. It’s as simple as that.

    They wouldn’t be improving the controller to a lot of people. They’ve be taking a big step backwards.

    #40 2 years ago
  41. TD_Monstrous69

    In my opinion I do think the dualshock as is does need to change, but I don’t think it needs sweeping change. The only things that need to be done for whatever their next controller might be that they need the base of it to be just a bit wider, and longer, at least by an inch, that way it’d give it some heft. Also, curve out the L2 and R2 triggers instead of curving them in as it is now. Because sometimes when playing, the back of my fingers do get pinched when playing certain games like say GTA IV, where you have to use the R2 and L2 triggers as your action buttons. In truth, those are the only things I’d want with their next controller. A touch screen? I can’t say I’m clamoring for one on my controller, to me, it’d depend on how it’s utilized, but the biometric stuff sounds interesting. Again, it’d depend on the utilization of it for me.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. Sadismek

    @40 Wouldn’t it be smart of Sony to allow any controller to be plugged in their next PlayStation though? Maybe launch different types of controllers, made by them. That way they would keep the same control scheme, not having to bother with button customization, and make everyone happy.

    #42 2 years ago
  43. Clupula

    @42 – That would be smart and I’d support people who don’t like the Dualshock having that OPTION, but the controller it should come with needs to be a Dualshock.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. Da Man

    SonyClupula never plays any games which require any kind of precision or skill anyway.

    People like those are too immersed in bishounens and screen swirling battles.

    #44 2 years ago
  45. Meta_Dragon

    Well as long as they don’t make it brick sized like the 360 controller, I guess I can deal with a redesigned controller.

    #45 2 years ago
  46. Sadismek

    @43 It’s pretty safe to say that the controller won’t be a Dualshock. A lot of people have been complaining about it since PS3′s arrival, although I’ve never had any problems with it. And besides, they can’t satisfy everyone. The thing I’ve mentioned in @42 seems the best way possible to deal with everyone once and for all, but I doubt it that they’ll actually do that. We’ll see.

    #46 2 years ago
  47. Clupula

    @46 – I’d say just as many people have been saying the controller is just fine. Remember when they were going to launch the PS3 with that awful looking batarang controller? The outcry was quite loud. This becomes official, it will cost Sony money. It’d be really fucking stupid of them to pull this crap.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. polygem

    i agree with #38

    the controller is what made me play more on my 360. this is just how it is. it’s just my personal preference though. never liked the dualshock much. very happy if they’ll redesign it.

    why is saying something like this bashing sony again?

    @42: a classic controller, dualshock option would be awesome. i can see this happening for real. nintendo also has different options. it should work for sony too.

    #48 2 years ago
  49. osric90

    If not broken…

    #49 2 years ago
  50. OlderGamer

    Also agree with 38, I went out and bought a xb360 lay style controler for my PS3 a couple years back.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. Ireland Michael

    @48 I’m sure Sony probably has better metrics than any of us to work with.

    If more people want the classic design, they’ll stick with it. If they don’t, they probably won’t.

    #51 2 years ago
  52. monkeygourmet

    @50

    Which one OG? I need one for Last of Us! :)

    Was thinking about getting the 360 pad adaptor but not sure if rumble and stuff works well?

    #52 2 years ago
  53. NocturnalB

    I highly doubt Sony would 100% retire the dualshock, it’s the friggin’ dualshock!

    #53 2 years ago
  54. theevilaires

    @38 thats the dumbest shit next to anything O’Connor has ever said on this site.

    You want the kid to be good, but you don’t want to bash him. What kind of stupid logic is that. and Clupula I agree my hands are the same way. Why someone would want to play crooked is retarded, but then again the people arguing its better are crooked on this site so yea….

    #54 2 years ago
  55. DrDamn

    The more I think about it the more I feel Sony really need to take some risks with PS4. More of the same but faster isn’t going to cut it, they *need* to do something different. So I’d like to see stuff like a disconnecting Move controller with a detachable screen. That would open up lots of possibilities.

    #55 2 years ago
  56. polygem

    @52: had the 360 adapter, works, but no sixaxxis…cannot recall rumble. i think it worked.

    had the power a too.
    that one wasn’t too shabby but not that great either. the analog sticks are shit. laggy. not responsive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVwKYVp6UNk
    nerd alarm

    i decided to just keep playing with the ds. i just don’t like that thing though. too small, buttons feel cheap, loose analog sticks, shit analog stick placement…i dislike almost everything about it. wiiu pro and 360 pad are much more fun to use. In my honest unbiased opinion as a multiplat videogame enthusiast with a soft spot for kirby.

    #56 2 years ago
  57. fearmonkey

    I never cared for the playstation controller, which I had started using since the original playstation. The dual stick version that later came along was just not comfortable for long periods of time with my hands.
    I didn’t like the N64 controller or gamecube controllers either.

    The massive xbox controller was comfortable in some ways, though my hands would fall asleep while playing it. The controller S was much better. Then the 360 controller came along and in my opinion its the best controller I have ever played (and I have played lots of PC controllers too. The exception is the Spaceorb, man I would love a modern version of that)

    I’d hate MS to radically change its gamepad and I imagine Sony fans feel the same way about the Dualshock. The smart move would be to have both options available. I know people that loved the Sony controller, it just never felt great to me for some reason.

    #57 2 years ago
  58. Gama_888

    I love the Dualshock. Its perfect for me. Maybe thats jsut because i am so used to it now.

    But i cannot use a 360 controller for a long time. my hand cramps. and i dont think i am holding it right cuz i get red marks appear on my fingers where theyv bin pressed against the bottom of the triggers.
    but i cant find any other way to hold it that feels comfortable :/

    #58 2 years ago
  59. tatsujin

    omfg stupid sony asses. Keep the controller as it is. I DO NOT WANT BEAR-CLAW CONTROLLERS LIKE THE XCRAP 3FIXME!

    #59 2 years ago
  60. Sadismek

    @59 See that little word written at the end of the title? The one after the dash? Yeah, it says rumor.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. OlderGamer

    I bought a DreamGear pad, I don’t know the make or model anymore. But it was gripped, wireless, laid out like xb360 pad and was pretty nice. I wore out the Y button at this point tho. They have cheapie ones you can get at Walmart that are usb, look like xb360 ones and work on PS3.

    #61 2 years ago
  62. monkeygourmet

    @61

    Thanks OG I will look into it!

    Can’t face playing last of us on the Dualshock! :)

    #62 2 years ago
  63. fengato

    A full sized Vita style D-Pad – yes please…

    #63 2 years ago
  64. monkeygourmet

    just pack-in the Vita as the control pad, smartest move they could do.

    #64 2 years ago
  65. Sadismek

    @64 I’d actually like that! Using the Vita as the controller when you fire up the console, and then as a stand-alone console when the PS4 is shut down. Not bad :).

    #65 2 years ago
  66. Ireland Michael

    Yeah, and then the console will end up costing $699…

    #66 2 years ago
  67. monkeygourmet

    @66

    Not if they use a subscription model.

    Or take a hit and try and resurect the Vita.

    With all the cross platform stuff it would make sense to give them both a boost.

    #67 2 years ago
  68. Eddie Rodrigues

    No, not my DualShock. I can’t adapt to any other controller, except keyboard, sadly

    #68 2 years ago
  69. monkeygourmet

    @68

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Typing_of_the_Dead

    #69 2 years ago
  70. Eddie Rodrigues

    @69 OH YOU!

    #70 2 years ago
  71. monkeygourmet

    @70 ;)

    #71 2 years ago
  72. fuchikoma

    It’s perfect for me too. I am so sick of gimmicks for the sake of being different. Waggle, touchscreens, microphones, cameras… The less of that, the higher it scores with me, and if it works properly as a controller too, then so much the better. The Vita has me a bit on edge, but it’s been mostly ok so far, though I still have issues like how aiming right in Unit 13 sometimes means hitting the “leap over cover to your death” onscreen button…

    I will preferentially buy a system based on orthodox button and stick controls. Hopefully all they do is fix the triggers, or at least allow connecting PS3 controllers for most games that can use them.

    #72 2 years ago
  73. Dragon246

    Well, we haven’t seen a patent from sony for a second screen controller now have we? Guess at least we are safe on that front.

    #73 2 years ago

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