Wed, Jan 16, 2013 | 05:06 GMT

DmC: Devil May Cry “fans” are a crying shame

Dante’s had a dye job and legions of devoted fans have sworn off his triumphant return to the forefront of action gaming. Brenna Hillier slow claps.

There’s a stereotype that gamers are all pathetic shut-in misanthropes with the social grace of pubic lice (pre-endangered species status) and adjustment disorders so pronounced they are visible from the moon.

This isn’t true. “Gamers” as a body don’t exist. The people who play games are just people who play games, and that arbitrary grouping is becoming even more diverse as gamification creeps into every aspect of our lives. (It will soon be impossible to microwave a TV dinner without scoring points, updating your Facebook, killing off a boss and unlocking an UBER EPIC 5000 armour set.)

But we all occasionally subscribe to the myth that gamers are a thing. It’s easy to do when you hang around sites like VG247. You start believing that this relatively tiny group of people who know and care about video games with an unusual level of passion are a solid, cohesive unit. You read the comments and you draw conclusions about what kind of people “gamers” are.

It’s not a very nice kind. Like all comment threads and forums everywhere, gaming websites tend to be dominated by vocal minorities keen to espouse their insanity and ignorance. According to this measure, the “gamer” kind is sexist; racist; homophobic; reactionary; unable to spell; almost exclusively male; hasn’t read a book since See Spot Run; probably dramatically under-equipped in the genital department; incapable of basic self-care like hygiene, cooking and housework; and covered in Cheeto dust.

Alright, I’m extrapolating a little here. But that’s the mental picture I come up with in-between rolling my eyes so hard my skull shakes whenever I read some embarrassing comment about how Dante’s hair colour means DmC: Devil May Cry isn’t a solid, excellent game well-worth your time.


Ninja Theory has kept its sense of humour.

Here’s a bridge: now get over it
Look, kids, the verdict is in: DmC is a lot of fun. As it should be; it was built in close consultation with the team of action experts at Capcom who oversaw the rest of the much-praised series. Sure, Kamiya was not on board – but Kamiya is just one man and, newsflash: games are made by dozens if not hundreds of people. When celebrity individuals depart, companies like Capcom don’t lose ground. The teams that stay behind still have all the knowledge and expertise they used to build the games they are almost never given any credit for. A single auteur makes a better headline, see.

Capcom went to Ninja Theory not because it couldn’t make a Devil May Cry game itself, but because it looked at the developer’s body of work, probably paying particular attention to the excellent Enslaved: Odyssey to the West, and decided it wanted that kind of creative force to reinvent Dante’s universe.

See, Dante’s universe was starting to wear thin. It didn’t start in a strong place. The gameplay was strong and Capcom turned the hodge-podge into a solid action game in the same way developers and publishers have salvaged projects since the industry’s earliest days: it started making shit up on the fly and tidying up afterwards.

Devil May Cry was a great game and so were its sequels, but the franchise’s fiction and canon is not among the great works our industry has produced; it’s all style and no substance. Dante wasn’t written to have substance, he was designed with style, to take advantage of the then-new PlayStation 2′s graphical capabilities. This was a video game franchise designed to sell a lot of units as quickly as possible on the expensive new platform, not to push the boundaries of the artform.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing; the question of what criteria, mechanics or intellectual property, are important when assessing a game is yet to be settled. But it is a thing, and it means there’s nothing sacred about Devil May Cry’s fiction that prevents Capcom from begging Ninja Theory to try and put together a fictional universe it can continue to make games in until people grow tired of its rock-solid action stylings – without writing itself into problems it can’t solve by having a woman smash through a window on a motorcycle and flash her tits.

Rage face

I understand how uncomfortable it is to have a character and world you love rewritten, even when you can admit to yourself that the original product was not proof against criticism, which many of you apparently can not. What I do not understand is the blithering insanity of Devil May Cry fans in the face of a reboot which does the franchise no harm and by all accounts, quite a lot of good.

The existence of DmC: Devil May Cry doesn’t stop the earlier games existing. It doesn’t betray or compromise that existing (incoherent) vision you love so much. If Microsoft threw up in a puddle and sold it under the name “Halo 5″ it wouldn’t stop Halo and its sequels being what they are. If the brand is diluted that’s not your problem – that’s the publisher’s problem when the money starts to trickle away. There was no “true” Devil May Cry game which was shelved for DmC. DmC’s existence, should you choose to ignore it, has no effect on you whatsoever.

Despite the complete absence of logic behind this ill-will, it runs so strongly that some of you have gone so far as to send death threats to Ninja Theory staff.

And yet despite the complete absence of logic behind this ill-will, it runs so strongly that some of you have gone so far as to send death threats to Ninja Theory staff, to accuse VG247 and its peers of corruption, a charge which stinks of conspiracy-theory paranoia, and to write thousands of words of rabid vitriol against Dante’s hair colour rather than react like a normal human being to a game that has absolutely no impact on your life and happiness in any meaningful way.

Devil May Cry is a video game. You are throwing a hissy fit because a character in a spin-off video game has a different backstory and hair colour to the one you’re used to. I shudder to think what will happen if you are ever required to move house, break up a relationship, change jobs or shave off your neckbeard.

You’ve lost it, “gamers”. I’m ashamed to be sharing an arbitrary demographic grouping with such raving imbeciles. Go outside. Get some fresh air. Volunteer at a soup kitchen. Grow the fuck up. And try DmC: Devil May Cry, because it’s a good video game. Remember how you used to like those?

668 comments

#451

M. K.
16/01/13, 4:39 pm

Come on Michael, I know you long enough. I’m not one of these flameboys who came here, because they’ve seen this story on google :D

#452

theevilaires
16/01/13, 4:49 pm

“We’ve heard you repeat the same point over and over again”.

Holy shit the kettle calling the pot black :D
Whenever you see O’Connor’s name pop up 5x-6x on every page of a long winded comment section its best to know its not worth your time to even post anymore. Although I have to say I’m astounded how fast this article got close to that legendary PSP article comment wise.

#453

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 4:53 pm

@438

The vast majority of people who regularly comment on this site AREN’T like what Brenna described in this article, you know that’s true.

This article was pure sensationalism. I’m just glad it brought some intelligent people in as well as the trolls.

People to actually call you out on some of the bullshit you try and spin.

You seriously need to pull your head out of your arse sometimes.

You can’t divide opinion one minute then lump everyone together when you feel like it.

Your only a moderator here, stop fighting everyone’s battles.

#454

Fin
16/01/13, 5:08 pm

|The vast majority of people who regularly comment on this site AREN’T like what Brenna described in this article, you know that’s true.

Hmm

#455

theevilaires
16/01/13, 5:08 pm

“The vast majority of people who regularly comment on this site AREN’T like what Brenna described in this article, you know that’s true”.

I read her little snippet up there and even if it wasn’t directed at all gamers then I hope she still braced herself for the negativity that would follow cause there are some sensitive guys out there on the net who can’t handle the “truth”. I would know since I myself have crushed hundreds if not thousands of these fools by my words alone.

“People to actually call you out on some of the bullshit you try and spin”.

LMAO I salute you M.G.!

“You seriously need to pull your head out of your arse sometimes”.

You’re talking to O’Connor…his head is his Ass.

“You can’t divide opinion one minute then lump everyone together when you feel like it”.

He’s very famous for that. Glad someone else is actually paying attention.

“Your only a moderator here, stop fighting everyone’s battles”.

LMAO…a secret XBOX LIVE meeting is being held right now to have you banned. Tactics include spamming the VG247 twitter account complaining how much the site sucks because of you and constant whining in every comment section about how much of a troll you are. But in reality you’re awesome to me M.G. ;)

#456

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 5:09 pm

@452

Well for one, surely they would be booted if they showed: homophobic, sexist etc… Behaviour?

#457

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 5:17 pm

@453

I didn’t like the article, plain and simple. But, I’d like to think Brenna wrote it knowing full well that it was going to have the desired effect.

Basically taking a hot issue in gaming and turning it into flame bait. It was perfectly timed in all honesty, just not what I’d usually expect from this site, basically, not my cup of tea.

What really annoys me though was Michael sticking up for it though.

IMO he’s blindly defended someone without actually looking at the article.

If it had been a male writer and the content was directed at female gamers, he would have gone MENTAL!

You know this is true as we’ve seen it many times before.

I really hope Brenna contacted Mike and was like, “dude, you do know I was just taking the piss”…

I just hated the way he jumped in and defended without actually analysing the article properly.

Hence, the White Knight stuff I think is pretty justified in this case.

#458

Ireland Michael
16/01/13, 5:18 pm

@451 I never said the people who frequent this site are like that. I said gamers in general.

@453 Says one of the only few people to ever have been legitimately banned from this site. Absolutely fucking hilarious.

Nobody cares about your hate and your bile and your vitriol. Nobody ever has. You’re a resident community joke, alongside GIGA, BDH and Da Man. You will either be outright ignored, or just banned for intentionally trying to stir up shit again like the last time.

@455 I read the article just fine, thank you. I just happen to agree with every single word of it.

#459

Cobra951
16/01/13, 5:18 pm

@426, orakaa, spot on, my friend. Spot on. I don’t care about the game itself one way or the other at this point. (The demo didn’t make my mind up for me either way, and I have not played past DMC games.) The horrible article itself is the cause of my involvement, and looking above, I see I’m far from alone.

#460

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 5:23 pm

@456

So why post in on this site?

So we can all scoff and sneer at these ‘Whiney entitled fanboys’?!

How fun and how mature, just think about that context for a minute?

Is that what you want to do? Not really productive is it, you could even say its exactly what she’s accusing others of?!

Come on dude, your Buddhist arent you? That kind of attitude can’t be good for the soul.

#461

theevilaires
16/01/13, 5:33 pm

“legitimately banned”

If you say so buddy. whatever makes you sleep better at night. The word legitimately coming from you sounds as wrong as O.J. Simpson saying he didn’t do it.

“Nobody cares about your hate and your bile and your vitriol. Nobody ever has. You’re a resident community joke, alongside GIGA, BDH and Da Man. You will either be outright ignored, or just banned for intentionally trying to stir up shit again, like the last time”.

Oh please like a give a flying piece of horse shit. The real joke around here is how you con yourself into moderation. I wonder how much ass kissing that took. Your lips must be sore. I see that since my so called banishment and return some changes have been made. Like my good buddy Cort not being around anymore or my pal Reask either and even though we didn’t always see eye to eye Pyschotext and Blerk are suspiciously gone too while many others are in incognito mode with new names. But then some things haven’t change O’Connor and thats your stench left behind after you have shit all over the comments section with your trolling. Do everyone a favor and STFU and read ip addresses so you can pass them along XBOX LIVE again you loser of every aspect of life.

Funny how I get banned stay away for years, you become an annoying mod who harasses the community and the site’s many popular posters still leave for greener pastures.

#462

Ireland Michael
16/01/13, 5:34 pm

@458 Right now I’m fairly intolerant of intolerance. I don’t have much patient for people who treat the world with hate and vitriol and then expect to be treated with respect at the moment.

Please don’t bring my faith into this. I’m a Buddhist, not a saint. I’m just as fallible as any human being,

@459 I didn’t even ask for moderation. I woke up one morning and had been given the position. “Moderators” on here are only responsible for cleaning up spam on the forums anyway, nothing more.

You got banned. The moment you returned you got a thread dedicated to having you banned again. You’re bloody hilarious.

#463

theevilaires
16/01/13, 5:41 pm

@455 he does it because he’s a loser. We all seen this kind of behavior before. he acts like a tough guy on the internet defending chicks cause in real life he is a LOSER! he has his own site but refuses to put any effort into that but trolls here day and night. He really thinks because he has the staff of this site on his 360 friends list that he’s special or apart of the team.

Year you’re special alright O’Connor. You the VG247 official mascot dog. Thats the job of a moderator. To sit and watch boy….now go fuck off and fetch yourself a life you loser.

#464

DSB
16/01/13, 5:43 pm

I just read the article, and I love the hell out of it.

I’ve never given half a fuck about DMC, but it is glorious to see Brenna lashing out like that. I wish there were more unsanitized opinions like that on VG247.

Personally I think it’s better to enjoy a provocation for what it is, than to mindlessly take the bait and start ranting out some totally incoherent defence of you and yours. That’s just pure validation of the accusation in the piece.

Clearly Brenna must have come close to striking some kind of nerve, no? Nobody puts that much effort into a comment war unless they feel struck in some way. That’s well beyond detached amusement.

I was however GREATLY OFFENDED by the sexism of the piece. We all know Brenna is a girl. There’s no need to go saying that anyone has small dicks. I mean really, this site is supposed to be on a crusade against sexism. What fucking cunts.

(Lulz)

#465

Ireland Michael
16/01/13, 5:44 pm

@461, I don’t think I’m part of any team here anymore than O.G. thinks he’s part of the staff.

@462 Hahahahaha!

#466

Da Man
16/01/13, 5:48 pm

orakaa, suggest ignoring Lolconner, replying to that generic misery only leads to more walls of passionate but banal and mediocre written hysteria.

Funnily enough, he’s the most ludicrously tragic trolling piece of internet sadness ever witnessed by this website. From being a total joke in regards to pretty much any topic (continuous bullshit, misinformation, shallow copy paste analysis etc) through demonstrating the poorest results in any faken videogame he criticizes.. It doesn’t take a genius to see a moron right there.

Fail after fail. Ownage after ownage. Yet the neurotic will always ask for more. Why? Because he lives in between Xbox Live, internet and kitchen.

:(

#467

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 5:48 pm

@460

This articles main theme is intolerance? But yeah, whatever.

You brought up your faith, not me.

You bring it up when you want to paint a better picture of yourself.

It’s like me saying I’m a carer. I could still be a complete arsehole, your job or religion should never give you a free ride.

#468

OlderGamer
16/01/13, 5:49 pm

err, wha, wait!? I am not part of the staff?

*Looks at the big Yellow lettering on his newly printed up black T-shirt*

Damn it, well there goes 10bucks.

#469

Da Man
16/01/13, 5:51 pm

Also, yes the psychotic nerd constantly memberates. Of all people he should be one of the top candidates for a ban.

#470

theevilaires
16/01/13, 5:51 pm

@460 The moment I returned I got nothing but praised and welcoming form the real posters and readers of this site on here and PSN. Hundreds of messages on PSN saying TEA welcome back we missed you so much and how much they hated you.

I just started posting on this article but yet you’ve been here from the start to damn near 500 trolling trying to be a white knight in shinning armor. Your act is tiresome it really is. I’ve never seen so much ass kissing for a staff of writers in my life.

Blerk gone,Reask gone,Psychotext M.I.A. and Cort my dear friend gone. Why? can’t be because of me cause they left after me. its you O’Connor people are sick of you dude! You’re diarrhea of the eyes. You got your little moderation gig you’ve be clamoring for now disappear…chevo earned: Destroy the VG247 community.

#471

stretch215
16/01/13, 6:10 pm

Whoa! This shit is STILL going? Might as well make it 500, no? And let me restate this: I NEVER really agreed with anything TEA said pre-ban, and didn’t really get along with him at all as far as commenting goes. That being said, I completely disagree with his banning as he was no worse than any of his “opponents”. I also don’t think he is any more of a disruptive influence than some of the others posters here, especially since his return.

#472

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 6:14 pm

@469

Isn’t sitting on that fence uncomfortable? :D

#473

absolutezero
16/01/13, 6:15 pm

I’m so hot right now.

#474

OlderGamer
16/01/13, 6:27 pm

“That being said, I completely disagree with his banning”

He wasn’t aimed at you. You might feel differently if he was. The first few days of his return here were good. Even nice to have him back. But look at this thread. Look at the posting more recently. It has been ramping up.

I am not posting this to instigate, just point out an observation. Most people have a range. They also have a center. Their expressions most often stay within that range, near the center. Some people have a wider range. Higher highs and lower lows. Tea is a passionate person and gamer. Sometimes the combination of those things cause trouble for him.

The problem for folks like that, and I can think of several others, is that they aren’t here to be a part of the community as much as they are here to fight with it. They devide it into sides. Create the very sense of “as he was no worse than any of his “opponents”. “, as Stretch put it. Some people really enjoy that aspect of mixing it up with other readers. Just for the sake of it.

Sure there are people that enjoy that in the forums. It can be fun and funny for them to read. But again what if it is aimed at you? What if every post and comment you made was followed by a releantless barrage of personal attacks? It isn’t as much fun then, and it certianly isn’t funny.

I like Tea. I think he knows that. He and I were “friends” on here for a long time. But that soured. All over who enjoyed what system more. I am not going to get back into that stuff, it was rather petty to begin with. But my point is that it spireled out of control. And turned nasty.

I hope things never get like that again, for me, you, or anyone else.

This is one part site for fans to enjoy and one part biz for Pat. It isn’t intended to be either a posting battlefield or bullying grounds(tho with this article, lol, you have to wonder).

#475

Ireland Michael
16/01/13, 6:31 pm

@472 Well said. Bravo. Salutes. etc. etc.

Now get off the lawn! You’re fired!

#476

daytripper
16/01/13, 6:38 pm

a rule for one another rule for others

#477

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 6:41 pm

@472

Yarp, well said again OG.

All very well, but sometimes people really do ‘move the goalposts’.

One minute wading in with opinion, the next accusing people of being childish etc…

It stinks of:

“Let me say my piece then i’m going to leave the room.”

We all have platform and game preference’s here, christ, if we weren’t passionate about our hobby, why would any of us bother to comment?

It’s the hussle and bussle of the community.

I must admit, sorry if it offends you but this paragraph made me LOL:

“He and I were “friends” on here for a long time. But that soured. All over who enjoyed what system more. I am not going to get back into that stuff, it was rather petty to begin with. But my point is that it spireled out of control. And turned nasty.”

You make it sound like Vietnam! :)

(although I know in actual fact it was much worse)

#478

OlderGamer
16/01/13, 6:44 pm

I didn’t mean for it to sound so soapboxy, lol, sorry.

#479

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 6:48 pm

@476

No, it was good, I liked it! :)

I was lurking around that period, so roughly know the score, TEA left shortly after I joined I think.

#480

absolutezero
16/01/13, 6:53 pm

Were you one of the hundreds that sent him messages on PSN?

:D ah aha h ha

#481

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 6:55 pm

@478

I sent him flowers, get it right AZ… :)

#482

theevilaires
16/01/13, 6:58 pm

Thank you Stretch215 I read your comment in the user thread that stickboy made and never got the chance to thank you for that because the article is gone off the side and I hate resurrecting those things.

The reason I got banned was pure bullshit but it was for a reason and what I said was never meant to offend who people thought it was referring to. I did what I did with the intent of getting the response I wanted everyone to witness themselves. I basically sacrificed myself because I know I was the main target of the new rules thread that was put up that weekend and if you go back to that thread you’ll see that I never posted anything that weekend until I made a decision to give what the community (the hater squad part) what they wanted and I posted what I said. And if you clearly remember right after my so called exile a new rule was created….a #0 if I recall….so you be the judge ;)

Its in the past and for what its worth I think I made the right decision. Although I was branded a “semi racist” (what ever that means,Obama is half white but I guess he’s still the first Black president) I have never ever once hated someone because of their skin tone and never made any slur or comments to back up those false claims. If you feel like I’ve attacked you because of personal stuff you put out here then accept my apology or not if I took my fanboyism too far, but I would never result to racism. Everyone on my friends list knows thats not me and if it was they would have deleted me a long time ago I’m sure.

Whatever happens in the future happens but I know one thing for sure prominent key posters didn’t leave this site before me, they left after me which means the problem,disease,infection,O’Connor, or whatever you want to call it is still lurking around poisoning the eco system of VG247….and I’ve come back to kick its ass for good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFogXTIv3MY

#483

Dragon246
16/01/13, 7:02 pm

This article serves no purpose. Most of the people here may or may not disagree with DMC reboot, but none of us here are the vitriolic “gamers” this article refers to. Good gameplay or not, fans have a right to feel bad. I know I would feel bad if my fav series get rebooted.

#484

bitsnark
16/01/13, 7:03 pm

“@460 The moment I returned I got nothing but praised and welcoming form the real posters and readers of this site on here and PSN. Hundreds of messages on PSN saying TEA welcome back we missed you so much and how much they hated you.”

Who said they hated Michael?

I don’t get all this attacking of people, Michael especially. So what if you disagree with him, but really; is there always the need to be so vile about it? That, I suppose, applies to all people really; videogames are one of the most fun things in the world, yet, why does so much misery get perpetuated in its name?

#486

polygem
16/01/13, 7:19 pm

i really think some people are going to far right here, right now. they probably think they are the cool, tough type of guy, speaking out what they believe in, strong, standing tall. the manly ones…lol.
right now this discussion totally reminds me of a time where my favourite place to be was a sand box.

“The moment I returned I got nothing but praised and welcoming form the real posters and readers of this site on here and PSN. Hundreds of messages on PSN saying TEA welcome back we missed you so much and how much they hated you.”

i mean…you’re kidding arent you?
this is scary.

#487

theevilaires
16/01/13, 7:25 pm

I was just joking M.G. :D just thought it would add more to the dramatic flair.

#488

DSB
16/01/13, 7:25 pm

POST 500!!!

Oh.. Wait… Carry on.

#489

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 7:26 pm

@484

My cat always used to take a dump in my Sand pit, it is a memory of mixed emotions for me. :)

Again, as I said before though, you have to pick through certain comments I think.

Look how much Dragon makes you rage! :)

#490

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 7:28 pm

@485

I know, I just love that clip of Ian Mckellen on extras :)

#491

polygem
16/01/13, 7:35 pm

dragon!!!

but i think we’re working on it. in 5 years we end up being the best friends.

i love to piss on sand.

reask: yea where is the guy? he was ok. disagreed sometimes but a good guy.

#492

theevilaires
16/01/13, 7:48 pm

Reask is a fucking awesome guy one of my best friends on any console I play…but yet he’s gone too. Did he get banned?…no Did he get tired of the hypocrisy around here?…more than likely.

Wheres Cort? Wheres Blerk (VG247 best poster of the year 2X) wheres that guy that came from nowhere during the PSN outage and won people’s heart because he was a cool logical guy that did a better explaining of the situation than bias VG247 staff?

Its ok we still have our two power mods who hysterically have been trying to carry the comments section along ever since prominent posters like myself chose to go else where because the hypocrisy just got out of hand. from what I’ve went back and read Dave Cook is responsible largely for keeping the comments alive with his articles. So kudos to that guy. For the attention whores who got Mod rights…the site has sucked ever since and I want the old VG247 back with G1GA,Reask,Cort,Spider-Law,Blerk,Psychotext and many more. Its a shame how anyone would trade their loyal fanbase for two crybaby Mods who need attention….”24/7″

#493

monkeygourmet
16/01/13, 7:53 pm

@490

Yeah, but you know what?

This one, this one right here… this was my dream, my wish. And it didn’t come true. So I’m taking it back.

I’m taking them all back.

#494

Slara
17/01/13, 7:04 am

I’m new to this site, this being my first post but I don’t really see the point of this article.

I’m not a huge DMC guy, never was. I enjoyed the games thoroughly when I played them though. Well I didn’t care for 1 or 2.
Maybe it’s different on this site, but many of the comments on YouTube or other places I feel like a lot of the complaints are well justified. Many of them are complain more about the combat than the hair if anything.

I don’t know, I could agree with this article but it seems to be a very immature way of tackling the issue, the writer seems to be on the level of people that she claims to so firmly detest.

I’ve rarely ever seen an article actually defend against some of the complaints of the combat mechanics of the game, they usually just fall into the routine of strawmanning all arguments into things about the hair. And this piece is no exception.

And while there are plenty of those that do have silly complaints about the game like the hair, I feel like lumping the entire group in like that is incredibly unfair. The writer claims not to want to be thrown in a group of gamers that she so detests, but she is doing the very same thing.

This article seems to be very hypocritical and evade many of the issues people have with the game. Its only use seems to start a flame-war.

One last thing. I’d like to address the comments of “you’re arguing/mad/posting about it so therefore the writer must be correct because she struck a nerve.” Making someone angry has never been something that automatically makes you right, and I don’t see why it is here. Furthermore, without actually seeing the person you can hardly tell if they’re angry by text, even if they use a string of swear words.

#495

facebook
17/01/13, 8:16 am

Just stopping by again to say that this article is an embarrassment to journalism and an affront to critical thinking.

#496

Edo
17/01/13, 8:29 am

Come on guys,you can make it to 500 I’ve put some really cash on it so make it happen!

#497

Telepathic.Geometry
17/01/13, 8:52 am

Don’t worry Edo, I’ve got ya covered…

/clears throat

I actually think that violent videogames contribute to real-life violence. Is it a huge factor? Maybe not, but I’d say if we strictly controlled videogames as the germans do, gun-crime would go down. How many violent crimes have you heard of in Germany lately? None? Well…

#498

SmashLampjaw
17/01/13, 9:42 am

Wait wait wait.

Is this a joke? Are you having a giggle, Brenna Hillier?

Because you can’t seriously be writing an article blasting fans for something you did barely more than a month ago.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/12/05/the-crying-game-its-time-to-talk-tomb-raider/

“Ever since the Tomb Raider reboot was announced, apparently a re-skinning of a survival horror Crystal Dynamics had been pitching for ages, I’ve tried to keep quiet about it. Because it looked ruddy awful to me – lacking everything I’d loved and appreciated in the series to date, and a total betrayal of a character I’d held close to my heart for a substantial portion of my formative years. There. I’ve said it. Tomb Raider, from reveal to reveal, has looked like nothing but utter rubbish, and I have been quietly anticipating giving it a critical savaging of such righteous fury that brand manager Karl Stewart will have to put his laptop in the freezer and cry himself to sleep. I’m not a very nice person, I’m afraid, especially where “my” games are concerned.”

How is that ANY different? You’re a pathetic hypocrite, and the reason gaming journalists are considered brainless slaves to their corporate masters.

#499

polygem
17/01/13, 9:57 am

@TG: i hear you…i live in germany..

/clears throat

we had school shootings/ killings too. we also have a huge problem with violence in general. just recently a kid was beaten to death by other kids in berlin again. youth violence is an issue here. it doesn´t need a gun to hurt someone. it makes killing more easy that´s for sure but i think games are not the root for this. they might be a symptom though. they´re just reflecting society. we live in a very cruel society.

/clearing throat again/ twice

people kill animals for food even though you do not need it in order to survive.

ok, this should make another 200 at least.

#500

Deacon
17/01/13, 10:33 am

So close!!!

+1 for Michael’s contribution to these comments. Calling this chap a troll is ridiculous.

By the time this post hits I suspect we’ll be over the 500. Well done everyone. Well done.

:: slow clap ::

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