DmC has low entry level for new users, says Capcom

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“. Suddenly one of the enemies immune to axe hits appears. You then start trying to hit it with your axe. You take too long to realise what you’re doing is wrong and your meter drops to a B rank.”

it cant drop to B by waiting it will stay on A
or did they changed this??

@51 I’m positive that it could although that’s something I admit I could be wrong about. Either way though you still have to switch weapon to hurt that enemy while on A rank to reach S, unless there are other minions in the same area to hurt with the axe.

I think someone said earlier on this thread that forcing people to switch weapons rather than keeping it free-form was restrictive and in a weird way that’s something I agree with. It’s a game about expression after all. Would you agree with that Greek?

I’ll honestly have to check that one tonight though. I’m sure it stops the combo if you wait too long yeah.

i said that the game puts basically rules on me on how to deal with specific enemys.
And no thats not weird at all we re talking about DMC/DmC here right..
of course i agree !
If i would be the combat designer for DmC i would atleast make it like that, that you have to deal a specific amount of damage with the specific weapon on firedude for example to destroy his protective aura so you can use all weapons again!
Would be much more fitting for Devil may cry imo

@53 you know what’s weird is that I actually thought the same as you -that by hitting the fire guy a few times that his armour would actually come off. I think that would at least make you switch your tactics up mid-combo for a few hits, rather than for a big string of hits.

I would have also liked more scope for weapon-based parries. They are in there for some enemies of course, but the mechanic behind them wasn’t that clear in the demo. Like, in the demo you can bounce back shots from the flying demons if you time it right.

I think I preferred the system in Bayonetta that felt more tangible – giving you a burst of bullet time for parries etc.

I’m glad they did this. For the first time ever, my girlfriend could actually play a DMC game. She probably won’t have a chance in the later levels, because her navigation is on the level of apple maps, but hey, there is a possibility.

I just remember the first time playing DMC3 after a few levels, you got to the boss Cerberus, died multiple times only to unlock the easier difficulty. The problem wasn’t that i was bad at the game, the problem was that it came so early. Where was the preparation? Where was the learning curve? Where the proper introduction? And why was Dante only wearing a red glam-rock jacket?

i liked the demo. gameplay is fun. that’s all that matters to me…the boss in the demo, the cheesy, disturbing sounds he makes, the even more cheesy trashtalking dante, the very unfitting dubminimal whatever music. awesome stuff. day one for me.

Was i the only one who laughed at the line “Hey, succubus, suck on this!”?

Don’t think Capcom would be able to write something like this.

i had to laugh out loud while i fighted that boss too. over the top cheesyness but in such a beautiful and enjoyable way. classic.

I’m your prom date you ugly sack of shit.

Shakespearean Triple A writing.

The “Light”-Scene from DMC.

That is all.

I hope they put that in the new game. It would fit right in.

“I wanted to be the one to fill your dark soul with FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU”

haha! stop it!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qG4AlK1qk

Anyone who criticised the new game’s writing comparative to the older titles is full of bullshit and a blinded apologist who simply wants any excuse they can latch onto to undermine the reboot.

Surely no one thinks the original games had good writing?

Actually I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone try and claim that. Of course that does not mean DmC is any better, actually from what I’ve seen its even worse for attempting to play some of it straight.

@63, You know, the difference between reboot and the old one in terms of story is that NT promised a good story, instead, we got this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cbMIKiGjy8

and okay, I don’t really care, but in the past DMC games there was an atmosphere, a humor and other parts that made a lot of sense.

this one is full of shit and yes, better to hear “I wanted to be the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT” then “FUCK YOU” or “Ugly sack of shit”

@64, writing in original games made a lot of sense. There was atmosphere. New reboot has nothing from that appeal. Characters motivation and other stuff were silly, but made a lot of sense in my opinion.

@65: What you call a story is actually dialog. -_-”

“other parts that made a lot of sense.”

Yeah, like for example, remember when lady was falling down and Dante caught her mid-air and she thanked him by shooting him in the head.

Why did she do that exactly? Did she knew he was a half demon? Or does she just randomly shoot people in the head whenever they save her? Does she realize that it would usually mean that she would continue to fall down.

Let’s not forget that there is no reason for her to have any super powers, since she’s just a human being.

Totally makes sense and only one of many examples.

“this one is full of shit and yes, better to hear “I wanted to be the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT” then “FUCK YOU” or “Ugly sack of shit””

That’s sad.

It amazes me how you guys can bash even the story of it while none of you actually seen it in it’s full state

I’d like to ask you can’t you understand that the behavior of Dante may be like this because he’s “half as old” as he was in 1-2-4? How do you know that there won’t be any plot involved in this episode which would have a maturing effect on him?

The dialogs aren’t that great, but we can only say this in reflection to what we’ve already seen.

Dave Cook: when will the reviews come out?

ps: What the hell do you expect from a friggin demon ffs? How should they talk? Of course they say curse words all the time, you know, they are demons, the bad guys….

@65 January 14th.

Everyone is making fun of the new DmC story because of all the swearing.

That is not story. That is script dialogue.

The actual story beats the piss out of the old games. Again, take this from someone many hours through the game.

Gotta say i love this scene:

http://youtu.be/y1PHdxsjY9I

Just for the storytelling alone.

Actually the “story” is just a half arsed shitty rip-off of They Live only its totally serious now.

Its Occupy: The Game with all the stupidity that that suggests.

Everyone is making fun of DmC because even though approx 70% of the game has been shown in one way or another its still terrible. Wait for the full game? Fuck that I’ve seen most of the full game already. Kat and her magical wiccan squirrel spunk spraycan and all.

Remember when Alex Garland came forward about how laughable Ninja Theory’s attempts at story were when he was writing Enslaved for them? Looks like they never took any notice.

The “Fuck you!” exchange made me roll my eyes, because it really felt like they were just trying to hard to be edgy, in the same way that you might have an uncle when you’re 13 who tries really hard to still be cool in your eyes, even though it’s far too late in his life for that.

I didn’t find it funny. I just found it to be an example of how shitty the writing in the game was. Not only that, but why would a demon that old be using modern swear words? It doesn’t make any sense.

“You can’t kill me. I’m 10,000 years old!”

@70: You have not played the game, yet you know all about it. Seems legit. And please, don’t quote-mine Alex Garland again, we can all use Google.

@71: Really? You thought it was trying to be edgy.

Are people completely immune to sarcasm?

Zero FIGHT!

@73 – Are you completely unaware of what sarcasm actually is?

Here’s a hint: two idiots yelling “Fuck you” at each other is not an example of it.

However, I was kind enough to provide one for you in the article about Dante not liking banks.

I agree with #56. The demo was a lot of fun. Fuck all this other shit (oooooh edgy),

@75: Whoops, meant irony. I thought the scene was pretty self-aware of how stupid their interaction was.

that interaction was lame.

I completely agree with clupula about “an uncle when you’re 13 who tries really hard to still be cool in your eyes”. This game tries too hard and fails in that way. I said that before actually when first trailer was released when Dante tried to smoke. that was just lame as hell.

I copied a comment from Youtube and it was a dialog from the second boss from DMC3:

“Cerberus: Leave now, mortal! The likes of you are forbidden in this land. You, who are powerless, are not worthy to set foot here.
Dante: Wow, I’ve never seen a talking mutt before. You know in a dog show, you’d definitely take the first place.
Cerberus: You, a mere human, make a mockery of me?
Dante: Easy, Fido! How about I take you out for a walk? Come on, puppy. Let’s go!
Cerberus: You’ll regret this you worm!
Dante: It’s showtime. Come on!”

That is funny, without swearing and “FUCK YOU” or “Ugly Sack of shit” thing.

This is more than a gameplay .. it’s about the style and the atmosphere of modern dark fantasy and gothic setting of the previous games

DmC was westernized , if jap dev have make a reboot for gears of war .. and turned marcus into some generic anime guy and added more anime stuff .

do you think fans of the original gears of war will like it? of course not!
and this is the same situation here with DmC.

@79 – Holy shit! I’m trying to imagine how funny that would be and how much rage would be unleashed if, say, Nippon Ichi did a Gears of War reboot.

With Prinny cameos! And fan service!

@78: Let me guess, you loved the Three Stooges movie.

You think that is funny? Really? Calling a huge dog Fido and ask him to go for a walk, so original and sooo funny.

And of course the Cerberus had to talk in that bullshit high-and-mighty-language. “Mortal this, Mortal that!” Never ever have i seen such grand display of originality.

Seems like they take everybody as writer in the Japanese Videogame Industry.

@79: i want that gears game now! sounds fantastic!

@79, 80,

Guys, it’s already have been done.

“Quantum Theory”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXqZPW39MTs and it’s a total disaster.

@81, that’s the whole point. It feels awkward as hell to talk like that with a demon dog. It’s funny and without swearing.

That’s the thing. “Mortal this, Mortal that!” shows how ignorant they are. That’s the appeal. + atmosphere and charisma.

@84: Yeah, but the Mortal-Talk also has been done to death and is boring as hell (Lol! Hell, get it? Because that’s the place they co- ugh. -_-”)

We get it, demons don’t understand how us Mortals work, blah, blah, blah. Nothing interesting about that.

The way Dante talks to Cerb is so forced, he’s so desperately trying to be cool, so incredibly unnatural. It’s just not funny.

And the exclusion of swears doesn’t add any depth to it. And you keep using the word atmosphere, but after DMC 1, in never felt any, really. They just went crazier and crazier, but the architecture for example always remained the same, it’s like two different worlds and they don’t match together at all. Gothic + Glam Rock, really?

But why would it make any more sense for a 10,000 year old demon to be yelling “Fuck you” at someone? That isn’t funny, it’s just lazy. I’m already suspending my belief when I accept that a giant slug demon can speak English, nevermind accept that they curse like a five year old who just learned the word “fuck.”

Ok, I have never played DMC. But this game definitely looks awesome and is on my list this year.
Although I hate all reboots in general because they alienate the fanbase and makes the entire storyline till that point moot (For eg.- I will never play MGS again if they reboot that). Why not start a franchise instead? But I also understand most “gamers”, despite moaning about new franchises, never buy them (see sleeping dogs, amulur, dragons dogma and list goes on), reboots generally are the way forward.

I haven’t played this game, and won’t. I played DMC one, and dabbled in some other ones here and there. But I can tell you if they made the game easier, I think that is a good idea. I recently played Darksiders II. The game was so hard, so fast that I couldn’t play it. Neither could my 17 year old son, My 28 year old brother in law, my wife nor his. All of us avid gamers. In terms of DSII, it was the jumping and climbing bits that were the problem.

Sometimes a game plays nice and smooth and then you reach a jaring “spot” that rips you away from the fun, the immersion. If not for the platform elements in DSII, I would have loved it and kept playing.

In my past go arounds with DMC I would come across a lot of “what do I do now” spots. That is why I stoped playing them seriously. I don’t have the patients. Too many other enjoyable things I can spend my time and money on.

So, if Capcom thinks they can lower the entery point of DMC and widen the player base…my gut tells me they are prolly right. There are so many choices for gamers to pick from today. It is prolly hard for studios to hit that sweet spot.

Wait a second, you complain that the previous games had too many “what do i do now” moments, thinking this one won’t have them, yet you still don’t want to check it out?

Wha? Why?

Devil May Cray has historically been incredibly linear. It’s hard to not know what to do. Generally speaking “Forward” is what you do.

Mostly because there are other things to play.

The days of having one system and a handful of game choices are long gone. In days gone by I might have stayed with a certian game. Today I toss it in the mailbox/post and wait for another one. Or play a PC. If I try the DMC it will be down the road. Right now I am working my way through AssCred III.

@91: Have fun. If you didn’t swear at least once during the last mission, then you have never played the last mission.

At least try the demo, maybe you’ll like it.

I might get around to it. But I am sitting on a pile of xmass games. A game like DMC makes a good game for slower summer times I think.