LittleBigPlanet 2′s Cross-Controller Pack releases next week

@ Da Man : lol

@Dragon246
“you can watch videos of gameplay of most of them that I did”

So as to “Have you tried any/all of these games” that’s a no then?

Even at it’s most basic levels, e.g. a map or mirrored view so you don’t need the TV, it’s a useful addition. Not tacked on, not pointless, it adds without detracting in anyway. Anything above and beyond that is all gravy.

For example (but not limited to) playing FIFA as a manager and having control, info in your hands and the live game on the big screen. Split Screen with two discreet screens in BLOPS2 – meaning you can play local MP without the other person being able to see your view, or without restricting one persons view. Squad movement control via the map in Mass Effect 3. None of these are tacked on, all add something useful without detracting.

You also made this point … “One more thing, I like this approach of keeping the second screen thing as optional and not force devs to use it like in wiiu.”. This is essentially what they can do on the WiiU. Ignore the touch screen, ignore it as a second screen and use it to mirror the main display so you don’t need to use the TV. All the controls are there, the same as other systems. You have to make no compromises like you did with the Wii. Just a useful and valuable addition.

@52: good posting.
third party devs can indeed completeley ignore using the touchpad if they choose to. everything will work just fine anyway. all the buttons are there for your classic console gameplay experience. the pro controller is a really good addition too though, not needed by any means but a great addition. i like the pro controller a lot.

@49 That’s not what I meant, I meant, if someone is getting you worked up *that* much, surely your energy is better spent not getting so wrapped up in it? You’d feel a lotless frustrated yourself in the long run. It’s just faceless comments on the Internet at the end of the day.

@49: true

i meant: @54: true

though i think #49 was true as well

…i cannot keep posting from this pc here now. half of the page is blocked. i´m out.

I use my WiiU to post most of the time now Poly. If your home pc is on the fritz, give that a whirl, works great. Can even cut and paste.

hehe i know. use it a lot too and really like it. works great indeed,wiiu browser is really good…i am at work atm though (or not really i am in another office doing stuff/ only slightly working)…home computer is old and all but for the net it works just fine

@poly
You seldom respond sensibly and take get hurt too much when someone criticizes ninty. This isn’t ninty4life.com, this is vg247. Everyone is entitled to have views, +ve or -ve ones.
I yeah, I never said you were a fanboy. If you can find a single comment where I said you were a fanboy personally, I will gladly not comment negatively on ninty articles for 2 weeks. Unlike you, I don’t insult others for disagreements.
And also show me where I said ninty games are for kids only too. You are either suffering from selective memory loss, or you really have bad english skills, since you assume too much.
@DrDamn
If I cant comment about wiiu after playing around 10 launch games for more than 1/2 an hour each, then I am afraid very few people can. As I said, for now, 2 screen implementation feels tacked on. I can easily change my opinion if a great game comes.
Also about 2 screens being optional, its not. WiiU will sell because of the pad, its the main draw of wiiu. So even if its optional theoretically, you will find all wiiu games using 2 screens, whether for good or bad, because otherwise wiiu offers no tangible benefits over ps3/360.

Also on the topic, this dlc contains creation tools too which I missed earlier, so maybe the lbp community can come up with some great ideas.

Just presenting my ideas on things. Feel free to agree or disagree, just please be respectful. Peace.

@dragon: i wont look up any old posts for you, i told you many times. please just do that yourself.
but why don’t you just read your very last one. it shows the problem i am having with you perfectly: you say you never called me a fanboy but at the same time you ”teach” me that this isn’t ninty4life.com. well that actually IS calling me a fanboy.
you say that you do not insult others. then you go on: ” You are either suffering from selective memory loss, or you really have bad english skills, since you assume too much.”
see what i mean?
you are really unreflected about yourself and that shows in your posting. especially in your ninty related posting. that is what i am trying to tell you. you deny. that’s ok, but i still feel like i have to reflect that for you if you wont do it yourself.

one more thing. i do not insult anyone more than you or clupula…clup brought that up once and now you guys keep saying that i am the ”persoal insult” guy- all the time…just like you used the ndf term. it’s funny really. you are the real internet chaser pros. respect.

@60
“you say you never called me a fanboy but at the same time you ”teach” me that this isn’t ninty4life.com. well that actually IS calling me a fanboy.”
Who quotes from those kinds of sites here? You. Also, you don’t understand english well. Because if you did, you would have understood what insulting others mean.

Here is a sample for you. I was replying to OG who was making a very generalised comment but you just got the itch and here it is-

“#46

polygem
09/12/12, 6:13 pm

clupula and dragon. it is hard to stay polite when you guys are around. i give it up. every time i read your comments i get hellraiser images in my head. don’t know why but it’s a true story…maybe it’s because your brains must be full of rusty nails as well. take a deep breath and then look in the mirror. or get yourself a social worker you can talk to or whatever. i wish you’d leave this page. it was better here without you.

#47

Dragon246
09/12/12, 6:21 pm

@46
Maybe you should stop getting worked up on a company? Every single thing I said is true, and none of it is speculation like you do with sony, and I don’t get angry regarding that, no one gets angry with stupid stuff like this.
Maybe count 1 to 10? I heard it works for some.

Some smileys for you..

#48

polygem
09/12/12, 6:24 pm

just read your last egomanic, selfish, unreflected post…then take the needles out of your brain, one by one.”

Stop replying to comments that have nothing to do with you. And just look who is more insulting and who started. As Michael said, stop replying to my comments, since none of them are aimed at you, that is, if you can.
I have absolutely no interest in talking with someone who just cant listen to other opinions with respect.

dragon, i still think you have an image of yourself that is not even slightly representing the reality and seriously, it worries me a bit. your last post shows this yet again. every single one of them actually…just read them and think about it yourself.

”I have absolutely no interest in talking with someone who just cant listen to other opinions with respect.”

i sign that. now take a look in the mirror will you. i think on this page you are among the most closed minded guys around.
you keep saying that this isn’t the case…your posts speak a different language.

i quoted ONCE from mynintendonews.com to say in a moster hunter thread that monolith are making a new wiiu game too and that they compared their ambitions to bethesda. i felt like some might be interested in that. you were -again – the first to write a negative comment about it in that same thread and now you even take that, post it here and pretent it is some kind of argument against me. drawing a picture of me constantly quoting ninty pages. it’s just a lie. a cheap little lie too. it’s fantasies and professional trolling, that’s exactly your style. no need to prove this. you prove it yourself over and over again. thx…
and i indeed think this page was better without commenters like this.

…and the quotes of that thread you just posted…was that before or after clup said i am a son of of a bitch who needs to get fkuced in the arse in three different languages? if you wanna quote things, tell the whole story please.

oh, and @poly posts are not aimed at me…ok, in your world that probably even does make sense. sorry mate. be patient. i think soon i will fully understand how you tick.

Poly, I’m curious as to why you keep bringing up things that I’ve said when replying to him. He may be trying to take the high road with you, but I make no promises. I don’t like you and you’ve insulted me personally enough that it’s pretty obvious that you don’t like me. In fact, I kept things from being personal until you started directly targeting he and I.

I think you’re a sad little fanboy living in a world of delusion and I would not be upset if you fell down the stairs tomorrow.

He, on the other hand, hasn’t done any of that. He’s tried to play nice, no matter how much of a dick you’ve been to the both of us. We’re not the same person, fraulein. So, whipping out shit I’ve talked about you against him just makes you seem even sadder.

And I really don’t have any idea how you don’t understand that when someone insults Nintendo, they’re not insulting you. When I told you to get fucked (and I should say that only one of them was a google translate quote, just because I heard it once and couldn’t remember exactly what it was…the one in Spanish), THAT was me insulting you. When you talk about how you’d like to stick needles into my brain, that’s actually a threat. Learn the difference, liebchen.

I you you all need some fucking perspective if you’ve reached the point where you’d have no sympathy is personal harm is caused to each other when discussing videogames.

@ the rage posts

I have been reading VG247 for several months now, and I have to agree that any sort of criticism towards Nintendo will automatically attract Polygem like moth to a flame. While the name “Nintendo Defense Force” might be insulting, it’s not completely untrue.

That being said, I do want to voice my opinion to the mods and Patrick. While I have thoroughly enjoyed the blog work (Dave, props for working on the weekend), I have to say that the discussions here are often the most depressing aspects of the site. It always starts very positive, then it would all go to shit. The articles with the highest comment counts are often just pure shit slinging and nothing constructive.

Whether or not this gets noticed, I don’t really care. However, I felt that I should voice my opinion if it can help towards the betterment of the site.

@clupula:you’re insulting me again, or trying to, calling me fraulein and liebchen like a racist american douche. lol. you also said that YOU wanted to fuck me hehe. i can clearly reply to that right now: no thanks. you are calling me fanboy again – sigh (”a sad little fanboy living in a world of delusion and I would not be upset if you fell down the stairs tomorrow”…insulting anyone?). i own and like all three consoles by the way. see, i really do not like you too and for the same reason i don’t like dragons posting much. your posts are ignorant, you’re insulting, you are closed minded and you even fail to see that…you also don’t know the hellraiser movies.
i never said i wanted to stick needles in your head man…the post was quoted by dragon and it’s up there. it’s a picture i get of you when i imagine your state of mind.

@anonymous : i always start my posts in a positive way. always. i am here for the love of games, be it ninty sony whatever. not coming here for hating and insulting. anyone who only slightly knows my posting will clearly be able to see that. BUT i do shoot back when someone’s throwing poo at me.

dytk, the site needs active moderation. The site used to be like this on both sides of the site. Once mods were established(in the forums) the insulting and fighting nearly stoped over in the forums.

however the fighting is one of the primary reasons some folks visit. Generaly speaking I would like to see full moderation. I am a forum mod, so that prolly makes sense.

I love a good descusion. But the insulting/fighting really is depressing, I agree.

@59
If you want to express an opinion about the entirety of the WiiU launch line up then I expect you to know what you are expressing an opinion on. Whether that’s just in knowing what the functionality is that you are talking about or better yet having some experience of it.

The point about optionality of the controller. I gave two examples (map and mirrored play) which are both cheap to implement and don’t have to impact the original game design – hence additional game functionality remains optional. To the end user these can still be very valuable to the extent of justify buying the WiiU version over any other.

@OlderGamer

Ah thanks for the insight. I’m personally not against arguments, and I understand why people would visit for the fighting. In truth, I find them kind of amusing myself. However, there is just a certain line that shouldn’t be crossed you know? Like a couple of jabs at each other is fine. However, if I go to the comments to see what people are thinking about the article, and I see the same shit slinging on the SAME topic like 2-3 weeks ago, that is a bit much.

Yeah I hope the mods can work out some balance. I don’t want this site to lose its character. Purging the arguments isn’t the solution, but everything needs to be had in moderation…

@70 – I would personally love it if the fights stopped. I don’t come here to be insulting, but if someone’s going to talk shit, I’m not turning the other cheek. I can fight with the best of them. I grew up in an Italian family. I’d totally welcome mods to stop it. I’d agree to be civil if he would.

@68 – Well, it’s accurate to say I haven’t been a fan of the Hellraiser series since Bloodlines ruined everything, but that was mostly due to studio interference and the need to maintain Pinhead/Elliot Spencer as the main character, instead of letting Angelique have a chance to shine.

Previous to that, it was one of my favorite horror series.

Also, very few Americans would even know what those two words mean, so I’m not sure how that would make me a “racist” American douche. My countrymen get angry when there are signs in Spanish, nevermind learning enough German to question your manhood.

Maybe I spent some time in Berlin over the years, eh? Didn’t think of that, did you?

Fully upto Pat(site owner), on the mod situation. Sad that we need an active babysitter, but sometimes we do. Right now the staff handle the news side ofthe site, and the mods just help on the forums. We have zero power on the news side.

@66- I didn’t say I was going to PUSH him down stairs, just that if it happened, it wouldn’t ruin my day.

Its really time and full time paid mod is appointed here. I think this site is big enough now to afford one mod. All it would take is half an hour a day to both root out the spams and do moderation.
Selecting a mod from the community just wouldn’t work because at some point, he would be accused of biased views. An anonymous mod who just makes insulting comments go *poof* and never says a thing anywhere would be the best way to go imo.

@71
Man, as I said earlier, I played the “supposedly” best games on the lineup, and was impressed only with nintyland in terms of 2 screen implementation. Every thing else was not good imo.

@Clupula
Thanks dude As you said earlier, our views don’t match completely, but it sours the taste when someone falsely accuses you of something.

Did you get a chance to play WiiU Dragon?

well i for one will leave this place. i was thinking about it anyway for a while now, why not doing it right now in a little big planet thread (lol) and without a bang. i find it depressing too. it makes me sad because i really like this page and the community but i don’t want to have to fight about all that closed minded shit anymore. i am a social therapist in real life and it feels like still being at work since some peeps are around here. so much denial and projection. it’s insane and i am out.
thx to og, manu, orbit, monkeygourmet, da man, erth, doc, irelandMichael, gadzooks, hunam, freedomstain, g1ga, sadismek, absolute0, viral, triggerhappy, thelepathic.geometry and many many more for some great years of fun videogame discussions and opinion fights. i let you deal with the new school now.
so finally i am fallig down the stairs.

@78
I have said about it earlier, maybe you missed. I am going to bed now, so maybe I will explain next time.
Peace.

@78 – I know this was addressed to Dragon, but just to let you guys know, I will get a chance to play on Christmas, when I set up the system for my cousin’s 8 year old. I’m not expecting to be impressed, but if I am, I’ll say it.

No one should leave. Just take a break,maybe a few hours or maybe a few days even. Or come play some WiiU with me(after I open my gifts for xmass). I can’t wait to put some laps on Sonic with you.

Ok Dragon, missed it man. No worries. Nite bud.

Clu, yeah let me what ya think. What games will you get to try? Just NintendoLand? I thought NintendoLand was neat, but some of the other games are much cooler imo.

Just a reminder to be patient if/when updating.

Probably just Nintendoland, unless she bought something else for him. I know she got the one with that packed in.

@82 – Best advice yet OG. Just take a break. As for the moderator suggestion – what good would it do? All of the writers have stepped in on more than one occasion and asked that folks keep things civil. When it comes down to it, the only voice anyone will listen to is Pat. Everyone else is ignored, and it takes something really derogatory or just plain vulgar for Pat to step in. Try to police yourselves a bit and act like grown-ups is the only thing I can say – which will promptly be ignored.

As far as the spam goes – again – as I am the only one who works the weekend shift I do what I can on the posts. As far as the forum itself is concerned, I cannot do anything about it because I do not have mod powers.

I mentioned this in the news thread when I asked a forum moderator to delete a couple posts for me just this morning.

Now, please be civil. It’s supposed to be the effing “season of giving” and all that junk. Practice it by giving each other some respect. Thanks.

Man, I was supposed to be sleeping but I just had to point the level of insulting going on unnoticed.

“#474

Da Man
13/12/12, 7:44 pm

Have you tried masturbating, Dragon1234567890 yet? Or is it just vg247 and Metal Gear soundtracks daily?

It’s been a while since I’ve seen people bumping four year old threads due to having literally zero life. Poor young man.”

Is this ok?

Bummer Clu, but that game gives you an idea of some of the things that can be done.

Some posters walk the line more then other posters Dragon. DaMan is one of the more…colorful posters. Is it cool? No, not in my book. Is it banible? No.

I also don’t speak for Pat. If something goes beyond what you feel is reasonable. I sugest you cut/paste and link it in an email to Pat. But Pats job isn’t to make you guys get along or even to make you guys play nice. It is a big world, thick skin helps.

But if it is bullying, constant, and personal…that is different. Send an email. But make darn sure that you are not engaged throwing the same/simaler lvl of verbage. I have had to endure two or three such periods, and bans where handed out. But you can’t expect someone to ban anyone because you get the short end of the aurguement.

Just try your best to be a polite poster(sometimes that pisses people off more then slinging insults lol). Treat people the way you want to be treated. Most posters are cool enough.

Most of the time, if you give the jerks enough rope…they end up hanging themself.

Y’all a bunch of wankers!!

*fap fap fap*

@77
What did you play? This was in a department store wasn’t it?

The best the system has to offer won’t always validate the second screen as a gameplay device, this is one of the points I made – they don’t have to. A good game is a good game, the second screen can enhance some games or make possible new gameplay – it doesn’t have to though. It can just be used for minor enhancements like maps or additional hotkey input, or it can just mirror the TV to allow for play without using the TV. Mario is an example of this. Single player you can play the game without using the screen at all, you can play it with a Wiimote if you want. Is it disappointing Nintendo hasn’t used one of their flagship franchises to properly demonstrate the full features of their new system? Absolutely, but it also demonstrates you can have a great game without pandering to it too.

Similarly some of the not so great games can validate the second screen as a gameplay device without themselves being fantastic games. Good ideas poorly executed are still good ideas. So if you limit your sample to only ‘best’ you aren’t properly evaluating the system.

Did that little miserable provocator mention the name of the thread it’s been posted in and the fact that he deliberately bumped a 4 year old thread?

Erm, yeah..

@70:

Are you saying there is none, or that the moderation is happening as intended? What I find funniest about this Nintendo-battle thread is that it’s attached to a story about LBP, the PS3 and the Vita. It wouldn’t remain unlocked or unedited for long on just about any forum I can think of. But then again, this is not so much a dedicated forum as a game-news site which permits commenting by the readers. *That* is why I’m here (not for the fighting). I’m a refugee from joystiq, sort of. They lost my readership because of the direction they decided to take.

Don’t get me wrong. It is a very entertaining thread. I rate it 3 popcorn buckets. Not being invested into the PS3, the Vita or the WiiU allows me to peruse it without undue emotion as well.

@92
The article is about using a Vita as input device in LBP. I.e. doing very similar stuff to the WiiU. So Nintendo being discussed in this context is perfect valid. How it is discussed is another thing, but it’s a valid discussion.

@87 – oh, and before this becomes a thing, please no one call me “Clu” ever again. That name is reserved for Clu Gulager of Return of the Living Dead fame and him alone.

My screenname is actually my first initial and my last name. Never been one for picking out fancy phrases or stuff like that when it comes to screennames.

Cobra, the mod duties are taken care of on the news side of the site buy Pat and the staff. Pat just has a very hands off aproach. That is the way Pat likes it.

In the forums, Pat has knighted(lol) a handful of mods. But the scope of duties falls more in line with spam gaurd then with policing posters are posting.

For the most part it all has worked pretty well over the years. It gets more challenging as the site grows in size. But I am not sure poster/mods are the way to go.

Cobra, the mod duties are taken care of on the news side of the site by Pat and the staff. Pat just has a very hands off aproach. That is the way Pat likes it.

In the forums, Pat has knighted(lol) a handful of mods. But the scope of duties falls more in line with spam gaurd then with policing posters are posting.

For the most part it all has worked pretty well over the years. It gets more challenging as the site grows in size. But I am not sure poster/mods are the way to go.