Sat, Dec 08, 2012 | 21:31 GMT

Wii U only moving 1.2 games per console – analyst

Wii U is moving 1.2 games per system sold, according to Longbow Research analyst James Hardiman, down from two games sold per console when Wii was first introduced in 2006. Hardiman gleaned his figures from the latest NPD report, via GI International, and believes the lower than expects units numbers derive from one of two things: the inclusion of NintendoLand with the Wii U Deluxe version; or the console price left consumers’ wallets a bit too empty to purchase more than one title. Most analysts tend to agree, though, that the console will continue to sell well into spring 2013. Beyond summer, even the analysts are unsure.

145 comments

#1

SpaceDinosaur
08/12/12, 10:22 pm

The reason is because Nintendo did not have a new 3D Mario, Zelda, Metroid, or even Starfox game at launch =(

The Wii U’s launch was the same as the 3DS =(

Long time Nintendo fans (The people who support Nintendo the most) want a new 3D Mario, Zelda, Metroid, or even Starfox game when they pick up a new Nintendo system.

All the Wii U had was ports and sugar coated games (Super Mario Bros 2 Wii U).

I grew up with the SNES, and ever since then, a new Mario, Zelda, Metroid, or even Starfox game has always made buy a new system.

Sadly such news for the Wii U most likely won’t be made until next Spring or further.

#2

polygem
08/12/12, 11:09 pm

i think the launch line up is really really great. enjoyable stuff… i think it´s because they all hang out on miiverse too much ;)
i definitley bought more games than planned. this far it´s:
-nsmbu
-nintendoland
-zombiu
-trine2
-nano assault
-tekken
-cod blops
-sonic all stars racing
-batman

that list is a pretty decent variety of quality games imho.
i still haven´t played darksiders II yet, so i will get that one too at some point. i love having the option to play stuff on the couch ore bed, that´s why i will pick up the wiiu version of darksiders.

…scribblenauts isn´t out in europe yet unfortunateley :(

i believe the second and third wave of wii u releases will be the REAL heavy hitters.

#3

Fin
08/12/12, 11:21 pm

in b4 poly defends-

oh

Anyone know what the final attach ratio of the Wii was?

#4

OlderGamer
08/12/12, 11:41 pm

I own:

Funky Barn
Madden13
AssCred III
Sonic Racing
Nintendoland
Nano
Warriors Orcha
Tank Tank Tank
Rise of Gaurdian
Epic Mickey 2
ZombiU

So there is my 1.2 purchased games lol.

Oh and I have Rayman and Aliens both preorderd.

#5

wishdokta
09/12/12, 12:06 am

The analyst cites low retail games sales across US himself. No Wii U only problem despite the unlucky news title.
I guess there is a simple answer: iphone (which came after Wii), tablet, hundreds of devices you can play on, too.

“or the console price left consumers’ wallets a bit too empty to purchase more than one title.”
- Nope. Single retail games nowadays are cheaper than single games 6 yrs ago. 360 & PS3 consoles were more expensive at launch without a game. If I remember correctly, so was the Wii. It would be interesting to see how exactly bundled Wii U games are affecting his opinion and what consumers are spending money on 2012 compared to 2006.

#6

SpaceDinosaur
09/12/12, 12:12 am

#2, #3, and #4

Will you all play those games more then a few times ?

Will you trade most if not all of them in after a short period of time ?

Honestly out of all of the games that all of you listed, Nintendo Land and Scribblenauts are the only thing’s that are out now that interest me.

Everything else is ports, movie games, or sugar coated games =(

There isn’t a AAA first party game from Nintendo (I don’t count Nintendo Land as a game, I count it as a mini game)

And as for the games that Nintendo revealed for release in the next few months Pikmin 3 is really the only game I am looking forward to.

Why can’t/won’t Nintendo make more fresh 1st party AAA games ?

Why couldn’t the Wii U have a game like Mario Sunshine, Galaxy, or Ocarina of Time ?

I think it’s because people keep buying the ports, movie games, or sugar coated games.

#7

OlderGamer
09/12/12, 12:57 am

All I can say is that I love WiiU.

Doesn’t bother me if I am not in the majority or not. To me the system is amazing. My wife and I are sitting in our chairs. She is watching food network on our living room tv. I am typing this on my WiiU GamePad. I love that.

I enjoy the games I have played except Epic Mickey2 that was horrible. Ask Dr.Damn, lol, I can not put down Funky Barn. It is like Viva Pinata vs a RTS vs ???. I was blown away, way too much fun.

Sonic is killier good. Evertyhing is excellent. What is wrong with that? All my opinion, ofc. But, on this site, like most sites, when the subject of WiiU comes up…the ones complaining don’t even own the sytem. I haven’t talked to anyone that owns it, that doesn’t like it.

People talk about Ndf, lol, but it is the same very nonWiiU owners that like to put it down. Some of you folks know me, I hate almost everything, but I love WiiU. The last system I was this excited about was Dreamcast.

#8

SpaceDinosaur
09/12/12, 1:09 am

#7 I don’t dislike the Wii U’s hardware, I think it is amazing.

But when it comes to the games, it feels like the 3DS all over again.

I bought the 3DS at launch and was very disappointed with the launch games, I traded my first 3DS in because of it.

I later bought a 2nd 3DS for the Ambassador games and Super Mario 3D Land.

And I loved the Dreamcast.

#9

daytripper
09/12/12, 3:19 am

Each to their own, I buy a system if I think it’s worth it regardless of who makes it, I’ve always been like that, Sony, MS,Sega or Nintendo as long as I feel it’s worth purchasing I will but from what I have played the Wii U, I don’t feel it, I don’t feel it is worth the money Nintendo are asking for it and I haven’t been impressed much with the
system along with the online infrastructure.

One thing I will say is that I found the controller to be comfortable and the D pad is excellent otherwise there is nothing there I see to invest my money, since the Wii Nintendo have been really disappointing in myopinion when it comes to what I want out of hardware.

#10

G1GAHURTZ
09/12/12, 4:05 am

But, on this site, like most sites, when the subject of WiiU comes up…the ones complaining don’t even own the sytem. I haven’t talked to anyone that owns it, that doesn’t like it.

Maybe because they would like to buy it, but it’s had such a disaster of a launch, that they’re not buying it.

- Current gen specs that struggle with ports of supposedly graphically weak games.

- needs a huge day 1 patch

- all too easily bricked, and eats DVDs

- freezes up all too regularly

- slow UI

- comparatively weak online system (although only if you’re really into online MP)

(All of the above is from the words of WiiU owners!)

- regularly slaughtered by the gaming and mainstream press alike.

With the next gen consoles supposedly in the horizon, you’d have to be seriously over optimistic about this console’s long term potential to buy into it now.

#11

Clupula
09/12/12, 4:41 am

when the subject of WiiU comes up…the ones complaining don’t even own the sytem.

I don’t have to set my dick on fire to know that it would hurt. The Wii U lineup sucks, quite honestly. There’s not a single launch game I have even the slightest interest in, and beyond that, the only title that would be cool is Bayonetta 2.

I know that you’d like to imagine that Sony will be begging outside in the cold, while Nintendo ALLOW Microsoft to be in charge of the West, but the reality is far, far different. This system is Nintendo’s attempt at grabbing the hardcore gamer and many of us opened our eyes, checked out what Nintendo were offering us, and then walked away, unimpressed.

Those of you who enjoy the scraps you’re fed from Nintendo, by all means, continue to enjoy them. None of us are trying to stop you. But it’s hilarious how much reality the Nintendo Magic crowd will continue to deny every time there’s an article pointing out that things are not quite rose-tinted in the rupee land of Tingle.

The only reason the Wii succeeded was that Nintendo managed to grab the soccer mom crowd last time. That crowd has moved on to the iPhone now. This time, Nintendo are back in Gamecube territory. The only difference is that the Gamecube was technically superior to its rivals (except for that ridiculous controller). This time, Nintendo are playing catch-up and doing a pretty poor job at it.

Notice something big from yesterday’s VGA’s?

Couldn’t help but notice not a single one of the big titles from then were Wii U titles.

#12

OlderGamer
09/12/12, 5:44 am

The thing is, the so called Nintendo crowd aren’t the ones complaning. It is the folks that don’t own one. And I am far from calling launch perfect.

But ghz most of that stuff you listed is an exageration. All consoles have launch bumps. RRoD anyone? PSx was so bad, one third of launch systems in na had to be turned upside down in order to get the disc to read. WiiU has had some systems brick, most of the time people couldn’t sit still and let their update finish downloading. There was freezing from time to time, that recieved a patch.

I don’t care if you guys buy one. Upto you. But for the same people to troll Nintendo threads saying the samethings over and over is just silly. That wasn’t directly aimed at you ghz, btw.

I like to keep my trusty tin foil hat handy sometimes, but ever give much thought as to WHY Nintendo gets hate from traditional gamers and the press that feeds them? There is a nugget there if you think about it a bit. The general public and mainstream press love Nintendo. Heck wasn’t it Time or People(forgot which) that just game WiiU a second place award for new tech? And, after ipad the new system is the one most asked for as a hoiday gift. Lots of folks like the system and Nintendo, they sell millions of units of hardware and software. Someone must be buying it.

And if I recall, the same Nintendo Sucks chatter was all the buzz with the Wii as well.

There was a great and recent piece on gameindustry.biz that touch on the hate for nontraditional gamers. It made perfect sense, and easily fits with stuff like Wii, WiiU, Mobile, and social gaming. I will bet if you are smart, honest, and can reflect on yourself, you can figure it out. If not go visit that site and read.

The answer isn’t that you(traditional gamers) simply don’t enjoy these games. It has more to do with you folks not WANTing to allow yourself to enjoy them. There is a lot to it.

I am nuts?

Three of the seasons biggest third party games are on WiiU, and from what I have read(even from many game critics and reviewers), the WiiU versons are the better version. But still people spew and hate, while playing Madden13, AssCredIII, and BlopsII on other systems. I am not saying you should buy the system to play thse games, esp if you can play em on hardware you already own. But I am saying you can’t legitimitly say the system is deviod of quality games and stinks.

To me, that is crazy. To me the issue isn’t if someone doesn’t wantthe system, the issue is when someone says the system stinks when they clearly haven’t spent any time on it(no a store demo doesn’t quality time make). And we see it all of the time here, everywhere really. People really are ill informed. Even yiu ghz, to isten to you one might think the system couldn’t read discs, locked/froze if you looked at it funny, had a 12hour patch(min took twtny mins from unboxing to being totaly done with updates, patches, Wii to WiiU data transfers), and ofc they don’t brick left and right. It also isn’t any slower then a xb360/ PS3 UIwise. Some of the apps take a few seconds to load. So does netflix on xbl too. No biggie.

WiiU perfect? Nope. Wasn’t expecting it to be. But is it the cluster f you guys think it is?Heck no, you would know that tho if you put a few hours behind the gamepad.

#13

SpaceDinosaur
09/12/12, 6:12 am

#12 Personally I like the hardware side of the Wii U, but when it comes to the games . . The games that fans would want, Nintendo has a “You’ll get them when and if we decide to make them” attitude.

Would you #12 want a completely fresh Mario, Zelda, Metriod, or Starfox game for the Wii U ?

I’m sure a lot of people who grew up playing the NES, SNES, N64, etc . . Would agree.

But Nintendo hasn’t done it and hasn’t shown any sign that they will =(

We most likely will get a new fresh Mario and Zelda game at some point, but Metriod and Starfox probably not at all =(

#14

OlderGamer
09/12/12, 6:45 am

Tbh, I think Nintendo held back on first party games in th launch window in an effort to cultivate 3rd party sales. Nintendos own games always dominate the software sales for their hardware. Many third parties have expressed concern and reluctance to publish on nintendo harware because of it. I think Nintendo held back thier heavy hitters on purpose. To give 3rd parties space.

NsmbWiiU is more then solid imo. I like the 2D ones better then the 3D ones. I know some disagee, that is ok. But yeah, no doubt the Zeldas, Metriods, Kirby, Poke’mons, and more will roll in down the road. I know Pikmin 3, is right around the corner.

#15

Cobra951
09/12/12, 6:53 am

“I don’t have to set my dick on fire to know that it would hurt.”

Hahaha! Perfect.

@OG:

You keep banging that drum, and it’s getting irritating. We don’t need to buy this thing to express our opinions about it. There is plenty of objective information available to judge its worth, or lack of it. It’s ludicrous to suggest that only the system buyers are qualified to weigh in on it. How sweet that would be for any commercial-propaganda machine: If you don’t want it enough to buy it, you can’t comment.

#16

Telepathic.Geometry
09/12/12, 6:58 am

@14: I think that’s a widely accepted theory, and not only, nor even mainly, to help 3rd party, but also because they know it’ll sell well for a the honeymoon period anyway, and they’re probably holding back the really good shit for late 2013, when the competition launch…

#17

SpaceDinosaur
09/12/12, 6:59 am

#14 I agree with you. I can understand that.

But I really can’t understand why Nintendo wouldn’t at least announce one of the games I said, to get the Mario, Zelda, Metriod, and Starfox fans excited about the Wii U.

If I knew at least 1 of the four games would be available in a couple of months I would buy a Wii U Deluxe and reserve the game that would come out.

#18

monkees19
09/12/12, 7:11 am

I bought 3 games at launch. ZombiU, NSMB U and Nintendo Land (bought basic)

#19

Francis O
09/12/12, 8:42 am

This doesn’t account for digital sales so its already inaccurate.

I bought, New Super Mario Bros U, ZombiU, and NintendoLand with the Deluxe. The system is fine, its the launch. Give it some time. What system sellers did the PS3 or 360 have at launch? Res Fall of Man, Genji, Kameo, Madden 06? At lease the Wii U had some solid ports at launch. And original titles like ZombiU and Scribblenauts Unlimited (in the US) I’m surprised on how much people are just writing off New Super Mario Bros U? That series has sold over 45 million units. Its for sure a Great game and a system seller.

If anybody thinks the PS4 and 720 are going to launch without ports and a million original day one games….. you smoking something.

#20

Gekidami
09/12/12, 9:11 am

^ …Wait, what? What ports would the PS4 and NextBox actually launch with? Its not like theres already a system on the market with exactly the same visuals they’ll have, and the the current gen consoles sure as hell didnt get a load of PS2 & original Xbox ports at launch because the systems were vastly different. Your “solid port” argument is null, because first off they’re all shoddy ports, literally every port on the WiiU is inferiour to the PS3 & 360 versions bar NG3 which has extra content but is still worst technically. Secondly its getting ports because its tech is equal to the that of 8 year old consoles, ports of games people can play on systems they already own isnt a positive, the fact that people arent buying games for it is proof of that. Once devs move on from the 360 & PS3 they’ll also move on from the WiiU, so bye bye ports, hello vast nothingness.

#21

Erthazus
09/12/12, 9:39 am

Actually PS2 and original Xbox or PS3/X360 recieved at launch PC ports too.

but there is actually a difference in quantity.

#22

polygem
09/12/12, 9:44 am

guys, seriously, if you do not feel like it: don’t buy one. i truly love the wiiu this far. it’s funny: nintendo launches a console with a nsmb game and a great collection of superquality nintendo themed partygames. they have some of the biggest third party heavy hitters as ports (shame on them for giving us games everyone likes on every other platform)…it’s actually something everyone and his mom complained the wii was lacking. guys like clupula still use the ‘soccer mom’ term and he still is complaining about wiiu now, lol. hey, you can play blops2 on it now, it looks gorgeous, you can even play it on the tablet alone but you also have the option to use the fantastic pro controller (which feels almost as good as the 360 pad and i love it)…so nintendo listened to every single complaint people had about the wii and satisfied the ninty fans with some quality launch games too…then there’s miiverse which, to me, is almost revolutionary. pikmin 3 on the way, rayman, a third party exclusive on the way…still they suck, sure. you needed to update your console…wait, what’s that pop up screen on my ps3 saying?

#23

Erthazus
09/12/12, 9:48 am

“hey, you can play blops2 on it now, it looks gorgeous”

I LOLED.

Even on my PC in 2560×1440 resolution it looks like a massive bland texture with ok models with 50 polygons on them
you are smoking too much of Halo weed. Can i get some too?

#24

polygem
09/12/12, 9:54 am

erth…sure it looks better on the pc man, but that’s really not the point here! pc, graphicswise, will always be superiour. but it wont stream on my phone from my pc to play it in bed or will it…that’s a real killer feature. now gimme the number of the guy selling that haloweed so i can relax with that and cod in bed for a while.

#25

Da Man
09/12/12, 10:17 am

Ertharsessus, out of morbid curiosity how many people did you talk to during the last 365 days?

(Not including vg247)

#26

Erthazus
09/12/12, 10:17 am

“but it wont stream on my phone from my pc to play it in bed or will it…”

Onlive, Gaikai?

#27

polygem
09/12/12, 10:21 am

…my phone doesnt have 2 analog sticks and 4 shoulder buttons

#28

monkeygourmet
09/12/12, 10:39 am

I have (before it bricked lol):

Zombie U
Sonic All Star Racing
Nintendo Land
NanoAssualt
Trine 2
Another E-Shop game I can’t remember the title!

The Wii U is great.

Should you buy one now? Maybe if your a fan of new intresting tech and like Nintendo stuff.

What it comes down to is early adoption. Are ANY consoles worth buying first thing?

The answer is almost always no. 360, PS3, Vita, 3DS… None of these consoles had a reason to purchase over your existing console with a huge back catalog of games.

Wii U is no different. But to blindly bash Nintendo as if these factors are unique to them is just stupid.

I love tech. When 720 comes out, i’ll buy that. When PS4 comes out, i’ll prob get that too at some point.

Will they be the second coming… No.

Launch games will prob be up-ressed ports of stuff we already have.

Will people experience problems with launch machines, almost certainly…

If you want some fun, by all means, pick up a Wii U. It’s a great machine with some excellent couch co-op already, and it’ll have some great games in it’s lifecycle.

There are also great games coming out next year for all consoles, so the other option is to just enjoy those. (Hence why Far Cry 3 has kept me occupied till my Wii U gets back).

This constant bitching needs to stop, just realise, it doesn’t matter what Nintendo does, you’ll still all be ragging on them.

Christ, when they announce Bayonetta 2, everyone complains!!!!

Mental attitutde, but also typical of short sighted fan boys who can’t look beyond brand loyality.

#29

CyberMarco
09/12/12, 10:42 am

@27, like this or this?

#30

polygem
09/12/12, 11:44 am

@29: no, better than that. much better…

#31

Mrleelongi
09/12/12, 11:50 am

@10

You just made me laugh.

- Current gen specs that struggle with ports of supposedly graphically weak games. (I really haven’t noticed frame rate issues or anything that has been mentioned other than maybe during cutscenes in Batman). So, if the fps is dropping it’s not enough in the three games (that are ports) that I have, for me to notice. So it’s okay to forget launch games for the PS3 and 360? No, I’ve heard that their launch games didn’t look as good either. They looked like last gen games and look at the games now. Wii U games look like very late current (last) gen games, so games in two years or so should look way better than they do now. Do you really expect devs to take the time to pretty the games up for a new console if they’re ports, or do you think they’re more than likely to just do a quick and sloppy or in some cases good, port?

- needs a huge day 1 patch

Most tech needs day one patches. Heck the compture you’re one probably had patches on day one!

- all too easily bricked, and eats DVDs

As stated already, idiots are idiots and do the big no no, turning off the system during the update process. Some of course got lemons (few) and others were just unlucky and had their system freeze. Heck even the 3DS firmware was a little buggy when it launched. Heck wanna talk about the firmware when Vita launched? Eats DVDs? DVDs that have 25 freaking GB worth of space! That’s more than Microsoft’s dual layered discs for the 360. We’re also talking about a single layered discs here for the Wii U.

- freezes up all too regularly

I’ll sort of give you that but it has been fixed by an update already.

- slow UI

I’ll give but it’s not really that bad.

- comparatively weak online system (although only if you’re really into online MP)

??? Not sure how people are really even judging that. I’d say it’s to early still to judge that. Wanna talk about how bad the 360′s or PS3′s online system was within it’s first month or so… Yeah give it time.

- regularly slaughtered by the gaming and mainstream press alike.

What’s new? Nintendo’s the only company that’s probably “died” like 10 times or more. Point being that everyone has always been counting Nintendo down and out for a long time now. You’d think people would learn not to but then again we are talking about… well… uh… I’m not even gonna go there.

#32

Dragon246
09/12/12, 12:52 pm

Man, same old people defending their beloved company. Is it that hard to take any negative news about your beloved company?
Its nobodies business if you like a console, but berating them for not owning a (niche right now) console is not wise.
WiiU may or may not be a success. But at this rate, the later seems a better bet. Also remember that ninty could ill afford a price cut now like 3ds.
Ninty, not sony or ms will be the first one to quit hardware business, if anyone would. Reason is very simple, they cant afford losses like sony or ms can. And hardware is a volatile business. Everybody would have laughed 30 years ago if someone said Apple will be the biggest mnc in the world.
Also both sony and ms have stated the gaming business as a core part of their group. Core businesses are the most financially stable businesses, and very few companies leave their core business.

#33

Old MacDonald
09/12/12, 12:53 pm

I think the theory that Nintendo are not releasing any big hitters to help third party publishers get a foothold is pretty unlikely.

First of all, because it would be a really bad business move for them. For any console manufacturer, in fact. They need a “killer app” or two, all console launches need that, don’t think for a moment that the next Xbox won’t launch with a new Halo or Gears of War, and more. The launch period is not the time to “give the other publishers a shot”, that time _may_ come later, but certainly not during the single most important time in the console’s life cycle.

Secondly, because it builds on the idea that the reason third party games aren’t selling well on Nintendo consoles are the first party games themselves. I think that’s a very simplistic and unrealistic way of looking at things. The situation is much more complicated, and it’s not like Nintendo can force people to become more interested in third-party games simply by not releasing any major first-party games.

Honestly, I think the most likely explanation is that there are problems going on behind the scenes. That’s a theory, not something I’m sure of, but I can’t imagine them not releasing a new Zelda or whatever now if they could. We know making good games is difficult, especially for a new console and control system, and we know Nintendo have very high standards. So maybe, just maybe, things haven’t gone as smoothly as they wanted. Maybe their big-name titles just aren’t good enough to be sold or even shown off, and need more development time (or even a restart).

#34

polygem
09/12/12, 1:01 pm

there’s nsmbu and nintendoland. 2 great and very solid nintendo launch games. pikmin will be released soon. the metroid and zeldas wont take too long. at least that’s my guess. wiiu has more than enough solid launch games. it would be stupid to launch more now, it’s better to wait until spring with the second wave.
@Dragon…we’ll see about that.

#35

Fin
09/12/12, 1:43 pm

@34

|at least that’s my guess

Didn’t you “guess” that Nintendo were going to announce a major first-party game for launch?

#36

DrDamn
09/12/12, 2:03 pm

Just out of interest, what is a normal or good launch attach ratio and what proportion of WiiU sold in the US are premiums? Anyone know?

E.g. in the UK 80%+ of the machines at launch were premium packs with either Nintendoland or ZombiU packed in.

#37

polygem
09/12/12, 3:33 pm

@35: launch window…

#38

Da Man
09/12/12, 4:16 pm

Everybody would have laughed 30 years ago if someone said Apple will be the biggest mnc in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mac_OS

You ‘re a moron…

Why would they laugh at that possibility when it was the dawn of the regular customer PC market and they were among it’s pioneers.. That’s like saying you would laugh at the notion of Bungie or id being successful when there were practically noone around at the time they started.

One of the most idiotic and inane bs I’ve read this week.

Now 15-20 years ago, everyone would laugh indeed.

#39

monkeygourmet
09/12/12, 5:06 pm

Same old people talking shit.

How coincidental it’s almost always Sony fanboys. After many, many forum posts its easy to see they are the most delusional Company zombies in gaming.

They attack MS and Nintendo in equal measure, with equal misinformation.

The only time is see people attack or criticise Sony is for things Sony themselves have over sold or over promised. To me, that’s fair game…

Sony usually leave themselves wide open after stupid promises they can’t keep or basic lies…

See over promised PS3 abilities and Dualshock fiasco etc…

#40

ryan.schoon
09/12/12, 5:18 pm

The reason the WiiU isn’t selling is because everyone who is a serious gamer ALREADY bought all those games on the other systems. Batman? COD? Rayman even? Check, check, and check. I plan on getting a WiiU this Christmas and the only game I’m going to get besides the included Nintendoland would be ZombiU. This is not a strong launch lineup. They are trying to get me to buy games again that I already own, which I won’t do.

And to the casual gamer, Nintendoland is probably enough for them.

#41

OlderGamer
09/12/12, 5:34 pm

Just my opinion, but the WiiUs GamePad is a Killer App. So is MiiVerse. Killier Apps and reasons to purchase are not always just a 1st party game.

I also think that Nintendos big gun ips will come out later to sustain sales and compete with ms and sony. But I believe that Pikim3 is done. I fully belive that holding it back makes sense on two fronts. Keep in mind the efforts Nintendo put into making 3rd parties happy, just like the pro controler for actis cod. If Zelda launches with the system…where would consumer and media focus be?

I think Nintendo has a great strategy.

As far as people getting tired of me and others saying they like the system…why? Why should that bother you guys? Same old voices defending? How about same old people attacking? And you guys don’t even own one.

There is a lot of “info” out there on the system. Belive me or not, but I am telling you most of it is exagerated or just plan wrong. No system is perfect. But gamers still play Xb360 despite RRoD. And despite a very high launch price and a complete lack of Killer Apps, people still enjoy the PS3. WiiU has had a few launch bumps. None of them doom the system or Nintendo.

Honestly I feel sorry for those that could afford to buy a WiiU, but won’t because of the hate, missinfo, or just the logo on the box. You will be missing out on some very cool gaming experiences. We are gamers, it is the games that should matter the most. I didn’t miss outbon LBP because it was on a PS3. And I didn’t miss out on Gears of War because it was on a xb360. And I did not miss out on game of the year canidate, Xenoblade Cronicles just because it was a Wii game. And I sure as hell won’t miss out on one of the best damn systems I have ever played just because it is a Nintendo system. I know the Nintendo IPs will continue to validate the purchase.

Boys, I am a Gamer! What are you?

#42

Clupula
09/12/12, 5:46 pm

The Miiverse is supposed to get me to buy a system. Seriously?!?

#43

polygem
09/12/12, 6:00 pm

@42: why not? it’s great. in combination with games, like nsmb for example, with all the ingame drawings and tips of your friends, it is clear to see that this is the future of social gaming. with miiverse now even xbl looks kind of outdated to me in a way…i am obviously mainly with monkey and og here, but i am out of this discussion now. this stuff is getting old. wii u is plain awesome, if you don’t want one, fine…pissing all over it while not even having played it is just plain stupid. it just is. no words in this world will change that. it is your loss you hardcore gamers you.

Edit: just checked. i’ve putted approx. 12 hours into miiverse yet. have the system how long now? 10 days?…sounds pretty killer app to me. havent played that much halo 4 yet (and i am a huge halo fan)

#44

OlderGamer
09/12/12, 6:02 pm

Nothing Nintendo can do Clupula, would make you want to buy a WiiU. But yes MiiVerse is an amazing feature.

#45

Dragon246
09/12/12, 6:05 pm

@41
You missed LBP vita, Sound Shapes (Best handheld game of the year), Gravity Rush, Uncharted GA, Mutant Blobs and so on, all of them either GOTY or contenders with vita games sweeping every handheld awards this year. Easily proves its the best handheld in the market, with 3ds winning the wooden spoon.
Sorry dude, the defensive comments here are borderline ridiculous. Lamenting console non owners even worse.
Vita is the best console imo. I played the shit out it and still play it everyday. But I do not try to spin the sales, or memory prices or other bad news surrounding it. No one does it here for any console here except , BINGO! the wiiu owners, who lament how others are not buying a console that’s sold on a profit, when neither ms or sony does it and hence, both of them provide a hardware that is better than a pc of same cost. While ninty thinks its Apple and continues to sell poor hardware at an overpriced cost.

“We are gamers, it is the games that should matter the most. ”
Yep, and yet all I hear you lamenting is “Woah, vita is over-priced even though its the most powerful handheld and sold at a loss”. Keep up your double standards.
None of the mario rehashes won anything this year.
And yeah, I played both your wii games, last story is good, as expected for the founder of ff games, with amazing cover art too , while xenoblade was mediocre. And both were ruined by pathetic hardware of wii, both in graphics and controls department.
And I played them last year.Something you cant do because of the pathetic region locking system that ninty has.
Looks like I am the true gamer here. You have a bigger list to play.

#46

polygem
09/12/12, 6:13 pm

clupula and dragon. it is hard to stay polite when you guys are around. i give it up. every time i read your comments i get hellraiser images in my head. don’t know why but it’s a true story…maybe it’s because your brains must be full of rusty nails as well. take a deep breath and then look in the mirror. or get yourself a social worker you can talk to or whatever. i wish you’d leave this page. it was better here without you.

#47

Dragon246
09/12/12, 6:21 pm

@46
Maybe you should stop getting worked up on a company? Every single thing I said is true, and none of it is speculation like you do with sony, and I don’t get angry regarding that, no one gets angry with stupid stuff like this.
Maybe count 1 to 10? I heard it works for some.

Some smileys for you..
:) :) :)

#48

polygem
09/12/12, 6:24 pm

just read your last egomanic, selfish, unreflected post…then take the needles out of your brain, one by one.

#49

monkeygourmet
09/12/12, 6:37 pm

@47

Fuck, you just don’t get it!!!

Head meet wall… Bang bang….

The Vita HAS some great games! I just told my friend to purchase one, he was going to get a PSP but I swayed him over to the Vita because of games like tear away etc…

But SONY’S treatment of the system has been awful, that is a fact.

What’s the point of having these great games if the console may die prematurely?

Same with the PS3 to an extent… Sony have been full of lies and half truths based on the systems abilities. Grow up and wake up…

#50

Gekidami
09/12/12, 6:41 pm

“Same old people talking shit.”
Yep. monkeygourmet, polygem, OlderGamer. And none are quite as good at talking shit as those three, thats for sure.

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