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Valve’s Gabe Newell expects living room PCs to compete with next-gen consoles

Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:27 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Valve’s Gabe Newell is of the opinion that PC companies will release living room friendly packages next year which will ultimately compete with next-gen consoles.

Speaking with Kotaku at the VGAs last night, Newell said Valve is looking into ways in which PCs can work better in the living room now that Steam’s Big Picture mode interest has been “stronger than expected.”

Newell said PC packages for the living room could be systems designed to plug into users’ television sets which could ultimately run Steam out of the box.

“I think in general that most customers and most developers are gonna find that [the PC is] a better environment for them,” he said. “Cause they won’t have to split the world into thinking about ‘why are my friends in the living room, why are my video sources in the living room different from everyone else?’ So in a sense we hopefully are gonna unify those environments.

“[Valve will ] do it but we also think other people will as well. Certainly our hardware will be a very controlled environment. If you want more flexibility, you can always buy a more general purpose PC. For people who want a more turnkey solution, that’s what some people are really gonna want for their living room.

“The nice thing about a PC is a lot of different people can try out different solutions, and customers can find the ones that work best for them.”

Newell said Valve is currently working on its next-gen engine, which will provide the firm with “interesting opportunities” for both PC and next-gen consoles.

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19 Comments

  1. freedoms_stain

    Since Intel seem hell bent on eliminating user upgrades with their next generation of CPU’s, he could be right.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Beta

    I’d like to hear Garry Newell’s opinion on the subject..

    #2 2 years ago
  3. CyberMarco

    @1 What do you mean exactly, can you explain?

    #3 2 years ago
  4. TheWulf

    @3

    There was a rumour for a while that Intel was switching to soldered only CPUs. But when someone actually bothered to talk to them about it, their response was pretty much:

    Uh. No. Soldered CPU boards are only one of the hardware choices we’ll be offering. We’re committed to providing socketable CPUs for the foreseeable future.

    So we’ll see how that goes.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. CyberMarco

    @5 So you say, there’s a possibility that future PC will ship with a non swappable CPU, like an all-in-a-box solution? Don’t really like the idea…

    #5 2 years ago
  6. mad1723

    Intel confirmed that this was not the case yesterday. These rumours are probably speaking of laptop CPUs or ULV (Ultra low voltage) packages. No worries about desktop for now.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. TheWulf

    @5

    Except that it would make no sense. None of the sense.

    Microsoft with app store envy being able to take a cut from all application sales by restricting what can be installed on future OSes is something that makes sense. Keep in mind that they have an almost total PC OS monopoly with very little to challenge them. It’s powered by greed. Risk and reward, et al. If the risk is low and the reward is high…

    If Intel were to do this soldered-only thing, however? They’d be shooting themselves in the foot. It doesn’t appeal to most of their target demographics. Their marketing team would likely all quit in a huff. AMD would revel in the insanity and take over as the sole producer of socketable processing units, and Intel would become a much smaller business.

    From a greed perspective, there’s no point in Intel abandoning sockets. And that’s all you need to look at. Does their greed benefit from it? In Intel’s case, the answer is: No.

    As #6 pointed out, this is probably for notebooks and tablet devices, where it would make sense for their greed because those don’t need to be upgraded. In that market they wouldn’t stand to lose out on anything by changing the architecture. In an upgradeable PC world with AMD breathing down their shoulder, they would.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. polygem

    i kinda like this idea. i am a bit sick of my 360 and ps3. really would love to see another option for the next gen and i am thinking more and more about going back to pc. my “machine” seems to die sooner or later. it´s an old can. would love an alternative like this. combined with wii u and 3ds it would be a great gaming set up for me…

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Phoenixblight

    Most of my gaming is 80% PC and the rest on the PS3 because of Sony’s Exclusives. I honestly don’t see myself picking up a next gen console for awhile at least 2 years after their release and it will probably be the next PS.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Erthazus

    @9, Same opinion and Most of my gaming is 80% PC and the rest is on the PS3.

    Can’t wait for the next year The Last Of Us and God Of War while playing multiplat and exclusive titles on my PC.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. rainer

    Who on earth is going to buy this box from Valve ?

    * The PC market is broken down into 3 groups, laptop users, DIY users and boutique PC makers like Maingear, Alienware and now Valve. Alienware already sell such a box Valve is describing.

    * HTPC’s have been around forever and not gone anywhere in fact they have been in decline.

    * If your the tech geek in the family you may love your HTPC but the rest of the family hates it, they are awkward to use, maintain and noisy.

    * To build and very effective HTPC like an Apple Mac Mini means making serous tradeoffs in performance and not being able to update the hardware.

    * You still have OSX, Windows or Linux to deal with and maintain as the underlying OS.

    * People are moving away from PC’s in general when it comes to set top boxes or tablets, phones.

    So a device that is more expensive the game console, more awkward to maintain and not upgradeable, what person is going to buy this over a games console or even a tablet ?

    #11 2 years ago
  12. apollyonbob

    I would hope that statements like this would get people to realize that Gabe Newell is just a guy. He really doesn’t know that much more than any other average gamer about what’s coming up next.

    If he wants to go big into the HTPC business, then by all means, he should start that right up. He can explain to Gateway how people really do want to surf the Internet from their couch. Yeup! That’s what people really want!

    See, he’s making the classic mistake. “If you want more flexibility, you can always buy a more general purpose PC.”

    Or … you could buy a kickass gaming rig, and use it for your general purpose PC. Which is what every gamer everywhere does.

    It’s not that people have their PC and go, “Oh I should use this for games.” People have to buy a PC with games in mind or they probably can’t play any.

    People use their gaming rigs as a PC. Not the other way around. What he’s suggesting is that people spend $$$ on a gaming PC, and then … not use it for the Internet or general PC uses because it’s tethered to their TV.

    Yeah okay buddy. Good luck!

    #12 2 years ago
  13. blackdreamhunk

    I hear some of the news smart tv are going to come with steam setup when you buy it from the retail store.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Erthazus

    “Which is what every gamer everywhere does.”

    Which is not true at all. There are even statistics at STEAM.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. apollyonbob

    @14 A hyperbolic statement. I will stipulate that there does exist people with the money to purchase multiple computers, each one purpose built, some perhaps plated with gold.

    I would bet that there are more gamers gaming on an HD 3000 card than have a purpose built gaming rig that sits solely in their living room – and there aren’t many of those. (I don’t see any Steam stats that point to home theater setups, but feel free to link them.)

    Don’t get me wrong – I’ve got my own HTPC. It costs me $500, or the price of one middle tier gaming video card. You see what I mean right? This HTPC thing has been around a very long time.

    If purpose built gaming PCs for the home theater were going to be a thing, I don’t think gaming laptops would be doing such good sales.

    I mean, in any event, they still don’t compete with consoles.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Dragon246

    Isn’t it bad for intel if they sell soldered cpu ? I mean, most people who upgrade would be buying a intel cpu again, so providing more cash for their coffers.
    I just hope the “next-gen” game they are developing is HL Episode3.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. blackdreamhunk

    @15

    I am going to add this link here

    Apple TV “Jailbreak” with Valve creating a Steam Box to Compete Against XBOX

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLaggDCKh9I

    #17 2 years ago
  18. ManuOtaku

    If it is STEAM on a box console, i rahter pass thank you, but if it is a PC-Console with also physical media as well, then iam in, colour me interested.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. TheDarkWeapon

    Big screen + 360 controller… YES, my PC is my best console ever.

    #19 2 years ago

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    Deadalic’s gorgeous-looking adventure Silence has been confirmed for a fourth platform. Originally announced for Mac and PC with an Xbox One port one revealed at a later date, Silence is now on its way to PS4 as well. All versions are due later this year. Silence is Deadalic’s first multi-platform release and in my mind […]

  • Mythbusters to tackle DOOM this weekend

    DOOM is the subject of the next episode of Mythbusters. Having been airing for over ten years now, Mythbusters has pretty much run out of myths to bust, which is why we find ourselves in 2015 with an episode dedicating to answering the question “could DOOM be real?” Bethesda has rveealed that the January 31 […]

  • Destiny hosting a Bungie Bounty – go go go

    Destiny players have a chance to take down Bungie employees in return for one of the most exclusive vanity items in the game. Destiny’s Bungie Bounties usually feature guests from the community, and today’s event is no exception. Joining Bungie community manager David “Deej” Dague are several members of Bungie.org, the developer’s most staunch fan […]

  • Elite: Dangerous developer issues lay-offs

    Elite: Dangerous team Frontier Developments has had to let staff go. At least 15 staff have been laid off from the developer’s Halifax studio. According to an investor update, this decision will allow Frontier to focus its efforts at its primary studio in Cambridge, England. “With its business emphasis now on two major self-published franchises, […]

  • Dragon Age: Inquisition tavern songs free for a limited time

    Dragon Age: Inquisition tunes can be yours for the bargain price of zero cashmoney. The tavern songs from Dragon Age: Inquisition will be made available for purchase from various digital distributors sometime after February 9. Until then, though, you can have them for free – including their sheet music. To take advantage of this generous […]

  • Even the Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 teaser is frightening

    Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 is probably going to be just as tense and uncomfortable as its two prequels. This teaser for Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 is the first we’ve heard of the project since creator Scott Cawthon confirmed it is in the works. The third entry in the series is now up on […]

  • 6.6 million Xbox consoles shipped last quarter

    Xbox One and Xbox 360 console sales were strong last quarter, although Microsoft isn’t talking hard numbers yet. Microsoft shipped 6.6 million Xbox 360 and Xbox One consoles to retailers in the quarter ending December 31, the company revealed in its latest financial briefing. This figure wasn’t broken down by platform, and Microsoft didn’t supply […]

  • Homeworld Remastered Collection: five minutes of b-roll footage

    We may not have proper, uncut gameplay footage of the Homeworld Remastered Collection, but we have the next best thing. Homeworld Remastered Collection was confirmed to release on February 25. Gearbox has only showed a trailer, but no extended gameplay demos. There was however a b-roll video showing at PAX South, and we’ve embedded it […]

  • Grim Fandango Remastered looks sharp in these new screens

    Grim Fandango will come back from the dead with the Remastered edition, and it’s looking great. Grim Fandango Remastered has a few new screens available to prove that even old games can look stunning with the right remaster, especially ones with an already well-defined art style. Have a look at them below and get excited. […]

  • Battlefield Hardline: beta weapons, maps, modes, progression system and more

    The Battlefield Hardline beta will include a third new map and a new game mode, on top of what’s already announced. You may remember last week DICE started a community mission for all Battlefield 4 players. The goal was to reach 2 billion points playing Rush mode. That goal has been achieved and as a […]

  • Dying Light launch trailer is one last display of its forte

    The launch trailer for Dying Light is here one day ahead of the game’s release. Techland and Warner Bros. have put out the launch trailer for Dying Light. The trailer is a short reminder of the game’s main selling points: free-running, weapon crafting, drop-kicking zombies. Reviews should start to come out tomorrow for the game […]

  • Watch The Witcher 3 developers stream new gameplay on Twitch

    The Witcher 3 developer CD Projekt RED is hosting a Twitch live-stream to show off brand new gameplay footage and answer some fan questions. The live-stream will start at 7:00pm GMT, 2:00pm EST, 11:00am PST. It will show off plenty of new footage, some of which was shown only to the press so far. The […]

  • Finally, some screens for Final Fantasy 15

    Patience is a virtue and we finally have our hands on a few gameplay screens from Final Fantasy 15. There’s not a lot of them, but they show the impressive lighting and they’re all gameplay as far as I can tell, so take a look. There is no release date for Final Fantasy 15 as […]

  • Here’s 15 minutes of gameplay from The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in 1080p

    The Witcher 3 has a new direct-feed, 1080p video available that’s 100% gameplay. Would you like some gameplay of The Witcher 3 in beautiful 1080p? Why, of course you would! The gameplay below shows combat, conversations, travelling. In short, it’s a small sample of everything the game will offer. If you’re looking to learn much […]

  • Two Mortal Kombat X characters to be revealed this week

    Mortal Kombat X will get not one, but two character reveals this week. Mortal Kombat creator Ed Boon has been at again on Twitter, teasing all kinds of reveals over the past few days. Firstly, Boon tweeted this image, which at first glance appears to show a character holding a bow. However, further examination by […]

  • Planetside 2 successfully claims the Guinness World Record for biggest FPS battle

    The Planetside 2 community has successfully organised an online battle involving over 1000 players, breaking the previous Guinness World Record. The event, which was organised by Planetside Battles was pitched to the community last week. 1,158 players have answered the call, smashing the record for “Most Players Online in an FPS Battle.” The previous 999 […]

  • Microsoft aiming for Xbox One-to-PC streaming to function while you watch TV

    Streaming Xbox One games to PC while you watch TV on the console through the HDMI pass-through is something Microsoft is hoping to achieve when the service launches with Windows 10. Microsoft’s Phil Spencer has been on Twitter answering fan questions following last week’s Windows 10 event. One interesting bit that came out of those […]

  • Everything we know about The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is sure to be one of the biggest RPGs of the year, due for release in May on PC, Xbox One and PS4. Delayed since its target release of 2015, CD Projekt Red’s latest game takes the series to a true open world environment, and charges the player with tracking […]

  • Battlefield Hardline beta date leaked – rumour

    According to an email sent to some YouTubers, the upcoming beta for Battlefield Hardline is scheduled for February 3. The date for the Battlefield Hardline beta is believed to be February 3. It comes from an email that’s been sent by Ronku to various YouTubers reminding them of the starting date, February 3. Ronku is […]

  • The history of The Witcher: beyond the Road With No Return

    We take a look at The Witcher franchise, from the original short stories to its blockbuster video games. The world was first introduced to Geralt through a set of short stories called The Witcher (English translation) written by author Andrzej Sapkowski. The first short story was published in the Polish fantasy and science fiction magazine […]

  • Bringing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt to life

    In The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, CD Projekt RED takes a whopping enormous map and fills it with stuff you actually want to see and do. Do you remember back before Oblivion came out there was a lot of chat about how much more lifelike and realistic the NPCs would be? Rather than just hanging […]

  • The big Witcher 3 questions answered: delays, playing as Ciri, and why enemies don’t scale

    Spending some time with The Witcher 3 level designer Miles Tost we were able to put some of our immediate questions to him after playing the game for over 4 hours. “That sense of improvement doesn’t happen if the monsters around you remain the same strength, there’s no sense of achievement.” Tost is a relaxed […]

  • The Witcher 3 sets a new generational standard for graphics

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is the new standard in outrageously pretty. “The Witcher 3 is more than just eye-candy. Destiny, once the loveliest thing I had ever looked upon, has been outclassed.” The Witcher 3 is even better looking than the screenshots would have you believe, and until you see it in motion, running […]

  • The Witcher 3: hands-on with the RPG of the year

    Getting to know a bawdy hero; Geralt of Rivia’s third outing is accessible, untamed, and dripping with story. Warning: some spoilers are inevitable. “The Witcher 3 is horror and violence. It’s charming, witty and cheeky. Like Geralt, it knows what it wants and it’s going to grab it with both hands.” The Witcher 3: Wild […]

  • Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel gets Lady Hammerlock DLC tomorrow

    The Lady Hammerlock DLC for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel will be released on PS3 and Xbox 360 tomorrow, January 27. The new playable character comes with three skill trees and the action skill Cold As Ice. If you haven’t bought the season pass for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel you can download the DLC for $9.99, you lucky […]

  • A limited edition 20th Anniversary PS4 just sold for $128,000

    Sony has just auctioned one of its limited edition 20th Anniversary PS4 consoles for over $128,000. The model had the serial number 00001, according to the Wall Street Journal. “We appreciate all who participated in the auction and are surprised at the highest bid price, which was higher than our expectations,” said a rep for […]

  • Here’s Killer Instinct’s new Omen and Golem fighters in action

    Microsoft has revealed Killer Instinct Season 2′s fighter Omen in a new trailer. Stick around for the end of the video and you’ll also get a peek at another new fighter, Golem. Omen is a bonus character and as such isn’t available as part of the main season roster. He’s available for free to Ultra […]

  • Digital copies of Far Cry 4 are being deleted from Uplay

    Ubisoft appears to be deleting copies of Far Cry 4 bought through digital third-party retailers. According to the Ubisoft support forums, copies of the game acquired via G2Play and G2A are being removed from Uplay. Users had not been given any warning by publisher Ubisoft that the game will be removed, although it is now […]

  • Gearbox wants “badass” talent for the next Borderlands

    Borderlands 3 may not have been announced at PAX this weekend, but studio boss Randy Pitchford is currently recruiting for the next game in the series. We are recruiting for next Borderlands. This is the big one. Industry badass? E-mail me: heyrandy@gearboxsoftware.com pic.twitter.com/ZG9dLytX1B — Randy Pitchford (@DuvalMagic) January 26, 2015 A recruitment push would suggest […]

  • Destiny: less grind, fairer economy in House of Wolves DLC

    Destiny developer Bungie has said it aims to lessen the grind in House of Wolves, and it won’t repeat mistakes it made with rewards in The Dark Below. Gear rewards will be fairer, according to lead designer Luke Smith in a Neogaf thread. For example, buying from a vendor should not invalidate gear rewarded for […]

  • Halo: The Master Chief Disaster

    Over two months since release and Xbox One’s big Christmas game is still a turkey, says Rich Stanton. “The game has now been available for two-and-a-half months, including the blockbuster Christmas season, and by any reasonable standard it doesn’t work.” Halo: The Master Chief Collection launched worldwide on November 11, 2014. Intended as something of […]

  • Homeworld Remastered Collection dated, first gameplay footage released

    Homeworld Remastered Collection has a release date, and as promised, the gameplay footage of Gearbox Software’s remake has been released along with the news that Homeworld Shipbreaker development continues. The video was shown during the Inside Gearbox Software panel earlier this morning at PAX South. Last year, Gearbox had said hoped to release the title […]

  • Clock Tower spiritual successor Night Cry has landed on Kickstarter

    The Kickstarter for Clock Tower spiritual successor, Project Scissors, recently announced as Night Cry, has launched. A teaser directed by The Grudge director Takashi Shimizu was released for the game earlier this month, and the full short film can be viewed below. Shimizu is also creative director on the project and Silent Hill creative and environment […]

  • Toukiden Kiwami mission trailer released, pre-order bonuses detailed

    Pre-order bonuses for Toukiden Kiwami have been announced for PlayStation 4 and Vita. Here’s the pre-order bonus list for each participating retailer: North America GameStop – Armor inspired by new slayers Reki and Soma’s costumes and classic armor from Toukiden‘s six original NPC slayers. Amazon – 2 exclusive pieces of armor: a set of Tenko […]

  • More Final Fantasy Type-0 HD, Final Fantasy 15 info doled out by Tabata

    Final Fantasy Type-0 HD director Hajime Tabata took part in a Reddit AMA yesterday, and answered a variety of questions pertaining to the game and Final Fantasy 15. According to Tabata, the first playthrough of the game will last around 40 hours, but “the real fun” starts from the second playthrough which contains new events. […]

  • This video gives you an idea of what Borderlands Online is like

    A video for Borderlands Online, the China-exclusive title from 2K, Shanda Games and Gearbox, has been released. Posted on MMO Culture, the video was released to announce the “technical test” which started today. Borderlands Online is an instance-based online shooter, and will probably never reach western shores. Still, you can have a look anyway.