Thu, Nov 22, 2012 | 10:39 GMT
‘Slow, horrible’ Wii U: THQ rep unhappy with the way quote has been spun
Metro: Last Light probably isn’t coming to Wii U, following some rather damning comments regarding the hardware from a developer at 4A Games. Publisher THQ has stepped in to shed light on why the negative comments were made.

Chief technical officer at 4A Games Oles Shishkovtsov originally made the comment during a NowGamer interview, in which he said, “[The] Wii U has a horrible, slow CPU.”
Eurogamer spoke with THQ’s 4A Games rep Huw Beynon to get some perspective on the comment, who said, “I think there was one comment made by Oles the programmer – the guy who built the engine.
“It’s a very CPU intensive game. I think it’s been verified by plenty of other sources, including your own Digital Foundry guys, that the CPU on Wii U on the face of it isn’t as fast as some of the other consoles out there. Lots of developers are finding ways to get around that because of other interesting parts of the platform.
However, Beynon is unhappy with the way Shishkovtsov’s comment has been handled in the press, and suggests that only half of the story has been reported, “I think that what frustrates me about the way the story’s been spun out is that there’s been no opportunity to say, ‘Well, yes, on that one individual piece maybe it’s not as… maybe his opinion is that it’s not as easy for the way that the 4A engine’s been built as is the others.
“What it doesn’t go on to look at is to say that, you know, we could probably get around that. We could probably get Metro to run on an iPad if we wanted, or on pretty much anything.
“Just as in the same way that between PC and current console versions there are some compromises that need to be made in certain places and we strive to get the very best performance that we can from any platform we release on.
It’s a natural practice in the press right now – given the scrutiny placed on the Wii U Format – Bynon suggested, “But I understand that there’s a real appetite in the media at the moment because the Wii U is a hot topic to spam some stories that are going to attract a lot of links if they present it in a certain way.”
Beynon added that a Wii U version is still possible, but rather unlikely, as the small team at 4A Games is currently working on the PS3 version. Given the time required to fully use the Wii U hardware to its potential – rather than just releasing a shoddy port – Beynon suggested it would be a big ask.
What do you think about Shishkovtsov’s comment? Blown out of proportion, or a developer speaking freely? Judge for yourself below.


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#101
DrDamn
26/11/12, 3:04 pm
@94
If the image quality is on par but the frame rate suffers that could well support the idea that it is the CPU which is the weak point though. As a link it does nothing to back up your argument – it only undermines it.
I think the best thing we can say at this point is that given the stage we are at (launch) and the standard of the ports (comparable) then the system *as a whole* is likely a bit better than the current systems. As time goes on and dev teams get more out of the obvious plus points (memory, GPU, architecture) then we should see it pull ahead.
#102
ManuOtaku
26/11/12, 3:25 pm
#102 Doc i agree with you, but the thing is that i did focused on the following ” The Wii U version matches the look of the Xbox 360 game and thus gives it an edge visually over the PlayStation 3 release” i think it is a very possitive thing, if we consider that the PS3 version 3 also do has frame rates issues, and the ps3 and 360 are equal in power, therefore one might think is porting issues, like in the wii, not the horrible slow CPU like the developers mention in this thread, if that was the case it wouldnt had an edge visually over the ps3 version,thats why i see it as a positive thing rather than a negative one, as for the rest of your comment i see it with the same light.
#103
DrDamn
26/11/12, 3:51 pm
@Manu
If it matches the 360 and edges the PS3 in *stills* then that just indicates that the GPU chipset is similar feature wise to the 360. It says very, very little about the CPU. The frame rate issues (vs both the 360 and PS3) are much more indicative of CPU deficiencies. Particularly if they are matching the 360 in still image quality.
#104
G1GAHURTZ
26/11/12, 4:04 pm
I’m pretty sure that WiiU visuals are going to look pretty pathetic, come next E3.
Why all the fuss?
#105
Ireland Michael
26/11/12, 4:11 pm
More importantly, who cares?
Because the average consumer clearly doesn’t.
#106
monkeygourmet
26/11/12, 4:40 pm
@106
Of course, but the ‘gaming’ communities combined wrath and cynisism towards the Wii U has been terrible IMO.
I never seen so much bullshit and trolling articles from supposed quality journalists in my life.
The way people have picked apart the machine is a joke. The pricing easily falls into the same level as the current gen machines (plus kinect or Move as a counter point to the tablet on the Wii U).
It’s Nintendo’s HD console for this gen, next gen hasn’t even been finalised yet and people have been bitching about anything they can think of.
So many articles making mountains out of mole hills.
It smacks of a short sighted viewpoint and a way of grabbing website hits, a very poor show indeed.
VG247 hasn’t been as bad, but sites like Kotaku, CVG, Eurogamer to an extent have had nothing but doom and gloom to spout, even though the console hasn’t reached UK shores yet.
Then of course when Mario, Zelda etc… Come out, they’ll be all over it again like a rash.
People have very short memories when reporting on intendo consoles and seem very quick to judge.
#107
polygem
26/11/12, 5:01 pm
yep monkey, the same guys will praise the shit out of the wii u when the full potential will be shown in upcoming games (zelda, metroid, new ip?)
press really has been quite harsh, what did they expect?
@DaMan: true. they get me all the time though. i try to ignore. sometimes i just can´t.
#108
OlderGamer
26/11/12, 5:13 pm
I think the hate just comes from knowing that for an entire gen that the Wii outsold both the hardware and the software of the stuff they “love” and value. So it builds up. Along comes a new Nintendo system and it is “ready, set, aim and fire”.
The funny part is that it doesn’t matter. The vocal core audiance isn’t what it used to be. It isn’t the backbone for the industry. Not that they don’t matter, but they are no longer the only thing that matters. And for 7years they were remined of that. So they unload on the WiiU.
The thing is, Nintendo didn’t need them last gen(or the gen before that nor the one before that). Nintendo just do their own thing. They don’t live or die on having to be the chosen platform for CoD fans. Or any other 3rd party.
I doubt WiiU reaches even 60% of what Wii sold. But I doubt MS or Sony will either. I bet this(next gen) is the last gen for traditional consoles for all involved.
So in the end to each their own. They are only toys after all. We should all count our blessings if deciding what toy to play with is such a big issue in our lives.
#109
Joe Musashi
26/11/12, 5:28 pm
I asked Chris Hecker and he told me that the Wii-U cpu is just two Wii cpus duct-taped together.
JM
#110
Dragon246
26/11/12, 6:55 pm
Another 100+ ninty defense article. Don’t you get bored doing this? Maybe ask Reggie to throw a pay check towards you, you all deserve it.
Keep hating anyone who doesn’t look at ninty with rose tinted glasses, those glasses are in short supply.
@Poly
Your comments are just hateful insults towards others now, as you have not got anything useful to say.
No more replies from me. Enjoy your party.
#111
monkeygourmet
26/11/12, 6:55 pm
@112
Very desperate attempt to get people to engage with you, you win a biscuit.
@108, 109
Of course!
As soon as the new Mario and Zelda are announced it’ll be back to kissing Nintendo’s arse like always.
They rarely fuck up when it comes to the quality of gameplay and anyone with half a brain knows that.
Christ, even with less than half the power of the 360 / PS3, the Wii still managed to create some of the best pure gameplay experiences we’ve yet to see.
I can understand fan boys slagging the machine off, but seeing proper gaming journalists and devs write it off so suddenly makes me pretty annoyed. Maybe the gaming sites need some new blood, or some staff who are not completely jaded by gaming in general.
The Wii U offers some great potential if people can be bothered to think out of the box. I guess it’s not going to happen though, and Nintendos first party efforts will once again have to pave the way.
Kudos for Ubisoft for trying something new with Zombie U though.
I just don’t understand the power issue though.
We have a glaring example that power alone doesn’t matter in the Vita…
It’s technically the best handheld out their yet its doing shit sales wise…
And, unlike the PS3, Nintendo has hardly over sold the device specs wise (apart from Reggies dodgy comment today). In fact, Nintendo has tried it’s hardest to get away from the focus on specs which I find quite appealing.
Once again, they sell the machine at profit which will create a huge margin by the time the PS4 and 720 get released.
Now, supposing MS and Sony both offer up subscriptions, Nintendo will still be in a good place for the Wii U becoming a second console in the home.
People will hardly want to have 2 subscriptions on the go next gen, but they may purchase a Wii U outright and a 720 subscription for example.
Next gen could really separate Sony and MS even more if this happens, and I can only imagine Sony loosing out more because of this.
#112
polygem
26/11/12, 7:33 pm
dragon, i gave you 3 smileys and a kiss…hows that insulting or even hatefull?
#113
Da Man
27/11/12, 2:20 pm
Pretty much..
Let the deprived kids ease their emptiness by nagging about srs bsns ‘quite frankly that said although ultimately by all means’..
They really live for this shit.
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