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GTA 5 reveal analysis: fancy a threesome?

Friday, 9th November 2012 12:49 GMT By Dave Cook

Grand Theft Auto 5 saw its full reveal last night, VG247′s Dave Cook gives you the facts and discusses how Rockstar’s changes could make this the best instalment yet.

Rockstar really does know how to manage expectations. The original Grand Theft Auto 5 reveal trailer landed November 2nd last year and since then information has been doled out sparingly, like a cruel master teasing a starving dog until it learns to behave itself.

But last night the data floodgates opened and the internet was drowned in a sea of GTA 5 goodness. Game Informer made Rockstar North’s sprawling crime epic its December cover spread and with it, an 18-page feature that blew the doors clean off.

Before I get into the finer details, let’s just have one more long, lingering look at the Game Informer cover shall we?

It was long rumoured that GTA 5 would star three protagonists and last night’s reveal confirmed it. But who are these men, these criminals, and why have they decided to raise hell on the streets of Los Santos?

Three’s company

From left to right their names are Trevor, Franklin and Michael and in the spirit of GTA 5′s focus on money and financial aspirations, they each represent different tiers of the social class ladder.

Trevor is a poor redneck who lives his life as a career criminal and “Revels in chaos”, Rockstar’s Dan Houser told Game Informer. He’s a dependent drug user who is known for violent outbursts at the drop of a hat, and is also an old accomplice of Michael’s during his bank robber days.

Houser called him an anarchistic character who does what he wants on the wrong side of the law, “If Michael was meant to be the idea of some version of criminal control – or some sort of bourgeois criminal who tries to go straight and gets sucked back in – what about the guy who didn’t want to do that?”

“Rockstar has confirmed that players will be able to switch between any of the characters on the fly almost all of the time, and that these three unique perspectives on the topic of money will make Los Santos the most believable and engaging stage yet.”

Keeping in line with the theme of money and the pursuit of wealth, Franklin is a repo man and hustler on the side, and in a weird bit of role-reversal, also sells cars to the poor at a price they can afford. He’s the youngest member of the group, and the smartest.

Finally, GTA 5′s most prominent character is 43-year-old Michael, who has moved to Los Santos under witness relocation to escape his old life as an East Coast bank robber. He hates his money-hungry wife and is completely disconnected from his two kids.

His dream of a better life in San Andreas has quickly fallen to tatters as his money runs dry, prompting him to turn to crime once more. Rumour has it his plot arc and reasons for his return to crime will echo Vince Gilligan’s series Breaking Bad, in which cancer-stricken chemistry teacher Walter White turns to the drug trade to make money for his family.

Rockstar has confirmed that players will be able to switch between any of the characters on the fly almost all of the time, and that these three unique perspectives on the topic of money will make Los Santos the most believable and engaging stage yet.

The decision, Houser as revealed, comes from Niko’s moral turmoil in GTA 4, which saw him complaining about his past life of violence and wanting to remove himself from the criminal equation, but then mowing down a street full of innocent pedestrians. It made no sense.

So by spreading the narrative across three very different people who all view the world in a different light, the notion of moral indifference across the cast becomes a more believable reality. It also serves to break up the monotony tied to previous GTA titles.

For example, say you just finished a key story mission in GTA 4. You would typically take on four or five mundane side-missions or fetch quests to unlock the next one. In GTA 5 you can break that up by switching character and tackling each of their key missions if you get bored.

When you do switch character the camera zooms up above Los Santos like some glorious Google Map and zooms back in on the next character. It sounds like it’s smart design, and as Game Informer pointed out, gives you a quick contrast between Michael’s Beverly Hills mansion and Trevor’s beaten up shack in Blaine County.

Characters are just one part of the dense cocktail that make up a solid Grand Theft Auto experience. In each instalment the game world itself has proven to be just as identifiable and as engrossing as the characters tearing around it. Los Santos is a world like no other.

Rockstar’s biggest open world yet.

Los Santos is bigger than Red Dead Redemption’s frontier, GTA 4′s Liberty City and the old San Andreas combined. Just try to imagine what that looks like and then ask yourself how your social life is going to suffer as a result. It’s going to be big, so you better be ready.

The return to San Andreas was a no-brainer for Rockstar North, Houser explained. Part of the decision came from the unexplored traits of California, from the rampant porn trade, the false glamour of Hollywood and of course, the sense of decay that comes with homeless people on every corner.

Just like its real-life equivalent, Los Santos is a complicated place with a clear class divide. Money talks in GTA 5′s world and if you haven’t got it, well then a life of crime, drug abuse and poverty are your potential reward.

“Many gamers were hoping that GTA 5 would focus all three cities from GTA; San Andreas, but that was an unrealistic goal according to Houser. He told Game Informer that the team opted for one city in order to focus their efforts in making it the best hub they had created.”

The inner cities are surrounded by peaceful suburbs that come with a hefty price tags, while the neighbouring countryside of Blaine County and other areas devolve into wastelands full of redneck values, dilapidation and a lawless nature.

Many gamers were hoping that GTA 5 would focus all three cities from GTA; San Andreas, but that was an unrealistic goal according to Houser. He told Game Informer that the team opted for one city in order to focus their efforts in making it the best hub they had created.

So in many ways it marries the lessons Rockstar North learned from GTA 4′s Liberty City setting, and the efforts of Rockstar San Diego when making Red Dead Redemption’s open frontier. The resulting play-space is massive, rich in detail and feels natural.

Travelling around such a vast region is important, so you’ll be pleased to learn that GTA 5 doesn’t cut back on transport, with a variety of motor and pedal bikes, cars, boats, trucks, off-road vehicles and planes on offer.

In a neat twist, Trevor is the only licensed pilot in the group, so only he can fly aircraft. Rockstar revealed that planes will be available from the start of the game, so you won’t need to glitch or jump your way into any military bases this time.

There is a military base of course, as well as the entire Mt. Chiliad range, Salton Sea region and all of the neighbouring countryside to explore. You can fly, drive, surf on the waves and even perform deep sea dives, although there’s no world on collectible pearls yet. We’re sure at least one person will be gutted by this fact.

Men on a mission

Perhaps one of the common criticisms of GTA games – as big and ambitious as they may be – is that with so many layers of mechanics and scripts running throughout every second of gameplay, certain mechanics feel limp compared to other titles.

Facets of the GTA make-up such as shooting and driving have varied in quality throughout the series, but in GTA 5 Rockstar North has taken real steps to make each individual mechanic as accomplished as a game dedicated solely to each function.

For example, shooting is said to have evolved beyond any Rockstar open world game to date, and actually stands beside dedicated shooters out there today. Houser stated, “We feel like we’ve evolved it on from where we had it in any previous game a long way.”

“GTA 5′s plot is wrapped around a series of heists carried out by the game’s three protagonists, and these missions riff on the popularity of GTA 4′s ‘Three Leaf Clover’ missions, which saw Niko planning a bank job, recruiting a crew and raising hell.”

Driving has also improved beyond GTA 4′s slack mechanics, giving you the option of pulling off wild hairpins and drifts. It’s a big step up from Niko’s shopping trolley turns and resistant manoeuvres, and in the end backs up GTA 5′s attempt to bring the series back into the fun zone.

Houser even went as far as placing GTA 5′s driving mechanics alongside racing games, and that fans of racing sims will find a lot to love about the way Rockstar’s cars handle on the road. So if you fancy yourself as a bit of a Steve McQueen from Bullitt then you’ll get a kick out of GTA 5.

Fisticuffs have also improved, and no we’re not talking Street Fighter levels of finesse here, but few could honestly say that GTA 4′s melee combat was worthy of praise. Although Rockstar North understands that most players will opt for guns over their bare fists, it’s something they wanted to improve upon regardless.

Why go to all of this effort? It’s because GTA 5′s plot is wrapped around a series of heists carried out by the game’s three protagonists, and these missions riff on the popularity of GTA 4′s ‘Three Leaf Clover’ missions, which saw Niko planning a bank job, recruiting a crew and raising hell.

It was a superb mission because there was such a great build-up to the heist itself, and this vibe will run throughout GTA 5. Heists ad other key missions will see all three characters present, and based on gameplay screens revealed by Rockstar, will involve some pretty mad stunts.

“Giving players three points of view during missions and in the open world is intriguing and if Rockstar pulls it off with fluidity and style it could set a precedent for the series. ”

One heist sees the crew rappelling down the side of an IAA – GTA’s spin on the CIA – office block and breaking in through the windows in order to save an informant who is being interrogated inside. But first they have to prepare for the hit. The team begin by collecting a chopper provided by the FIB, and then perch it above the rooftop of the IAA building.

Once there, Michael leaps out and begins his walk down the structure while Franklin provides sniper cover from afar. The player remains in full control the entire time, and upon finding the right window, must smash their way inside to grab the target.

As Michael dangles there with his gun out, using the target as a human shield, a pack of IAA operatives have drawn their guns on him. At this point the player can remain as Michael or switch to Franklin to snipe the attackers. It’s fluid and it gives a different perspective on the action.

With the operatives dispatched, Trevor arrives to extract the group. Once in the air players can control the chopper at Trevor, unload at their pursuers with an assault rifle as Michael or snipe pursuing craft as Franklin. It’s entirely up to you.

Giving players three points of view during missions and in the open world is intriguing and if Rockstar pulls it off with fluidity and style it could set a precedent for the series. If anything it gives rise to more content, plot detail and character than ever before.

We’re waiting.

GTA 5 isn’t out until Spring 2013 so there’s a lot of waiting around to be had until then. It’s almost unbearable for some gamers, and who can blame them, given the immense hype surrounding Rockstar North’s potential opus?

But just like gamers waiting around killing time, there will be plenty of things to do during your downtime in Los Santos. You can take in some yoga, buy yourself a new outfit, drink in some entertainment, or play a full round of golf. The options are staggering.

Many gamers will be pleased to learn that dating has been removed from the mix, as it was something Rockstar North felt went against the nature of GTA 5′s ensemble cast. No matter which way you slice it, it’s clear that Rockstar isn’t cutting back on content, and looks set to deliver a staggering array of content.

With so much to do and see, you can bet that GTA 5 information will come thick and fast following Game Informer’s reveal, and as always VG247 will be on hand to report it as it happens. There’s just the little matter of the game’s second trailer to get through first. Look out for it on November 14th.

Disclosure:

  • This article was written in-part with the help of information gathered in Game Informer’s December issue, bought digitally by Dave personally for £2.99 via the magazine’s iPad app.

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66 Comments

  1. Mike W

    Damn….I have yet to beat any of the GTAs and RRD

    #1 2 years ago
  2. absolutezero

    No female main character.

    Theres three of them now for God sake.

    Disgusting…

    #2 2 years ago
  3. LuLshuck

    @2 Thats women to decide, not you.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. pha1r

    @2 I really don’t understand people like you.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. absolutezero

    Point stands.

    There have been black, Chinese and hispanic main characters before but its too much of a push for one to be female?

    [TRIGGER WARNING]

    Rockstar hate women. Or it might actually just be the Housers, look at Max Payne 3.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. OrbitMonkey

    @4 He was joking macho man, no-one is threatening to emasculate your videogames.

    *edit*

    Ok… Maybe he’s serious. Point still stands.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. viralshag

    No, it doesn’t stand. Adapting a story/game to include a female for the sake of ticking boxes is just stupid.

    If there is no scope for a female lead, then there is no scope for a female lead. There’s nothing sexist about that. That’s just the way it is.

    Is there a male character I can play in the new Tomb Raider? If not, that’s totally sexist then, right?

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Dave Cook

    Pandering in either direction for the sake of popularity is wrong in my opinion. I’m all for male and female protagonists being handled with humility and respect, but decisions need to be taken with care, not taken lightly.

    That’s my two cents.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. absolutezero

    I’m being half serious.

    Tomb Raider does not change character every single game, its always been Lara and the games are developed with that in mind. GTA on the other hand is not really based around the sex of the main character, the guy from Chinatown Wars could have easily been female, along with the two PSP spin-offs and either of the two GTA 4 expansions. In fact it might have lead to even better stories.

    Force them out of their comfort zone and create a morally grey, avaricious female lead with all the character flaws and inner strength of the series main-stays.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. pha1r

    @6 That wasn’t what I meant really. What I meant is that I don’t understand how no female protagonists is an issue. GTA 1 had female characters, that didn’t really do anything for the game. I suppose you’re a bit right, I am annoyed by these “women in games” complaints that just keep resurfacing.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. lama

    i dont like the idea of having 3 protagonists, id rather play a female char!

    #11 2 years ago
  12. absolutezero

    Plus I’m not saying they should shoe horn a woman into an already existing story, I’m saying that it would have been surprising and refreshing to have that woman be the center of the story from the off-set.

    If theres no scope for a female lead then theres no scope for a female lead, but there has not been scope for a female lead in the series entire history. Thats 13 games by my count. Each and every story has called for a male lead? Everytime?

    I don’t see what Luis being a man added to the story in Gay Tony.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. viralshag

    @9/12, Why do they have to be forced out of their comfort zone? They make decent games the way they are. It’s their choice at the end of the day, why should they have to change it?

    Go and play Saints Row 3 if you really want to have a female character in a GTA-like game. Or just accept the game for what it is.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. absolutezero

    Saint’s Row is a character creator driven title with place-holder dialogue depending on a choice at the start of the game.

    What I mean by pushing them out of their comfort zone is that Rockstar have to my knowledge never created a game with a female main character, most of the games they created do have create progression and a story for those male characters to move through.

    Its not as if they don’t have any idea when it comes to good female character creation, look at Bonnie in Red Dead.

    Simply dismissing this as “Don’t like it, don’t play it” is depressing. There could be a great story lurking here if only they’d take the jump and 13 games in I fail to see any reasonble explanation as to why it has not happened yet.

    This is entirely me just bumping my gums on the internet though, in this specific comment section no less. It just occured to me now because of that front cover, three main protagonists and all of them are men, previous titles have covered various races and nationalites, just not the opposite sex.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. viralshag

    I’m not saying it’s case of “Don’t like it, don’t play it” but really I’m saying it is entirely their choice at the end of the day.

    They very well may have considered having a female lead but if they’re good at creating a game with a male lead, why change it for the sake of changing it? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

    There’s nothing stopping someone else from creating the kind of character you’re looking for in a game like this.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. RedGrapes

    So, one minute VG247 is trumpeting its new ethical editorial policies. The next, it’s running an article under the title “GTA 5 gameplay reveal” – which strongly implies that the link will contain details – or perhaps even footage of – the game actually running.

    That disclosure statement at the bottom of the page is a massive understatement. This piece wasn’t “written in part with the help of” the GI piece. It’s based *entirely* on content written by one of your rivals.

    I don’t object to you covering the new details – this is GTA, and an article like this will no doubt net you lots of traffic. What I do object to is titling such a piece as if it’s a preview – pretending that these details are ones that you’ve seen for yourself.

    The approach you’ve taken is cheap and misleading. To dress up a piece of churnalism like this, so soon after Pat’s song and dance about journalistic standards… well, it smacks of hypocrisy.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Dave Cook

    @16 that’s a mad assumption mate, sorry. Anyone who knows their gaming knows that Game Informer published a gameplay reveal last night, and every site under the sun is basically stripping that piece for key data and creating cheap list-based articles on the matter.

    My piece talks about the connotations of said information and theorises about why the new features will help the game shine. If you choose to read the headline that way then that’s fine, but it’s in no way misleading.

    Also, the disclosure at the bottom makes sense. You seriously have no idea how many sites and magazines out there do this because they don’t admit it, trust me :)

    #17 2 years ago
  18. SplatteredHouse

    “It’s based *entirely* on content written by one of your rivals.”

    I’d be surprised if that were true. The information that’s been released by Rockstar is what it is (I don’t have time to dig out GI’s original article, nor inclination to give them the traffic to compare this to the 18-page chunk…) and GI presented it to their readers, as Dave has here for his.

    He did mention in an earlier story response that his GTA V piece (which he was at the time writing) would not be a collection of pulled quotes from the magazine.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Dave Cook

    @18 Thank you, my point exactly mate. I’m not having a go at RedGrapes because people can think what they like. But how is this that different from every site under the sun taking out data from a press release and putting their own spin on it?

    In fact of all the sites doing it with the GI piece – and that’s all of them by the way – my piece has the most effort put in by a mile, rather than just listing information.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. RedGrapes

    “When you do switch character the camera zooms up above Los Santos like some glorious Google Map and zooms back in on the next character. It’s smart design, especially when you see the contrast between Michael’s Beverly Hills mansion and Trevor’s beaten up shack in Blaine County.”

    So you’ve actually seen this for yourself, then? Because it certainly sounds like you have.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Dave Cook

    @20 I’m not understanding the problem here though. The industry does the same with other articles and previews every day. Why are you singling this one article out? Is it because you were hoping to see more? If so, then I apologise, but it’s not fair to have a go at me for something everyone in this industry does.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Ireland Michael

    @21′I think his issue is with the idea that the headline suggests that it’s going to reveal new information, whereas it’s more about analysing the context of the information we already know.

    The article is great, but the headline is a bit of a bait and switch. =P Never underestimate the power of a headline.

    I do think he’s being overly harsh and reading way too much into it though.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Dave Cook

    @22 I don’t mind changing the headline if it’s a concern, I’d rather people asked me calmly instead of launching into a tirade against me. I seriously get so down with working in the games press at times given the amount of nasty stuff I have to filter through to get the job done – not aimed at Ireland Michael or RedGrapes or anyone here.

    I’ll soften it then, how’s about that? Most sites wouldn’t respond by actually changing it, but I’m happy to do that. Let me know if the new one is better.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. G1GAHURTZ

    Don’t let the pedants get you down, Dave.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. RedGrapes

    You haven’t played GTA 5, but you’re writing as if you have. That’s misleading, and ethically dubious. You wouldn’t review a game on the basis of someone else’s review, so why do it for previews?

    Just to be absolutely clear: there’s nothing wrong with covering the new details. It’s interesting stuff, and totally worth covering. And it’s fair play to analyse or even guess at things on the basis of newly-revealed details – as long as you make it clear what you’re doing, i.e. writing off the back of something revealed elsewhere. My problem with this piece (which is well-written, incidentally) is that you seem to be pretending that you’ve seen the game. And you haven’t.

    Contrast your coverage with the way Eurogamer or CVG have done things. The former sticks the new details into an extended news piece; the latter runs them as a list. But neither author makes comments like…

    “It’s smart design, especially when you see the contrast between Michael’s Beverly Hills mansion and Trevor’s beaten up shack in Blaine County.”

    … when they haven’t seen the game for themselves. Given VG247′s supposed emphasis on honesty and transparency, this approach seems really questionable.

    EDIT: Fair play – that’s a better headline, and I give you credit for that. My points might sound pedantic, but that’s the scrutiny you’re open to when your site stands up and makes a noise about standards.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Dave Cook

    @25 What you’re not grasping here though is that it’s not been done intentionally to mislead. If that part bothers you so much then I’ll change that too. I wrote this piece while doing a million other things today so some word choices might have got mixed up in the wash, but again, whenever gamers react to games writers no quarter or understanding is given. It’s honestly draining at points.

    I’ll edit that bit too if it will help put you at ease somewhat.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. AmiralPatate

    So, GTA obviously needs a 3-way coop now.

    Plus having a female playable, or at least prominent, character, would definitely be interesting.

    I mean, the three characters “each represent different tiers of the social class ladder”. To me, it clearly shows they want to depict something like, I don’t know, the impact of the financial crisis on the Western society; or the disparities between the rich and the poor.
    The differences between men and women and their place in society is a worthy subject, and would totally be relevant in the man’s world that is GTA.

    So, not saying they should add women for the sake of adding women, but that if they have the opportunity to add a decent female character relevant to the story, they should definitely go for it.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. RedGrapes

    With hindsight, it was harsh of me to accuse you of being deliberately misleading; I have no doubt that wasn’t the case. And I’m sure it’s very tricky to write something like this against the clock.

    All I’m saying is, you have to be aware of the ways in people might perceive the things you write. That’s not just true for you, but for all games journalists.

    Anyway, thank you for replying. And I apologise if I’ve taken a dump on your Friday afternoon.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Dave Cook

    @28 RedGrapes not a problem, and I have to stress again that I wasn’t having a go at you because your feedback was fair. It is a harsh job at times being on top of news and writing features, but hey we all make mistakes.

    And I agree entirely that it’s something that game journalists at large need to address among other things. Regardless I appreciate all feedback good or ill, as it’s helpful to bettering my work.

    Have a good one bud.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. MadFingerz

    I don’t get all the fuss about a non-playable female character..

    Same as it happens with movies, the majority of people prefer male leads in videogames. Business-wise, it makes more sense to relegate female characters to supporting roles. And that’s what R* seems to be doing here. Judging by the GI info, they have female characters, like Michael’s wife, that are still well fleshed out.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. Dave Cook

    @30 What could be quite interesting is – within GTA V’s focus on finance – is to do an expansion that focuses on a mother who gets hammered by the recession and can’t afford to look after her kids – similar to Michael, but then turns to crime to fund her family.

    Proper Breaking Bad with a female hero. That’d be ace.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. Phoenixblight

    @31

    like Weeds? I am all for that especially if she were to go from small time dealer to big time distribution.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Dave Cook

    @32 yeah! that’d be ace :D

    #33 2 years ago
  34. absolutezero

    Its not about a non-player female character, its all about a playable female character.

    Weeds is the perfect example, you guys hit it perfectly.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. loudpackk

    Fuck it, its good as it is, doesn’t need a female, every other game rockstar made was successful without it, so why change it, just because a small percentage of females want a female as the main? pssssh. Dont see it happening.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. strikkebil

    female character for gta? really?
    i get that people want more diversity in games but youre playing as a gangster and a criminal. it would be either unrealistic or extremly boring to play as a female in gta. go ahead mass effect, battlefield etc. add female characters in story aswell as mp. but putting a female protaganist in gta would probably be a very stupid idea.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Phoenixblight

    @36

    There are plenty of criminal female character in the GTA series and its definitely possible to do. Don’t be so narrow-minded.

    I am all for what this game will do and accomplish but I am not going to say no to a female character as a protagonist in the series. That would be moronic.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. DarkElfa

    I’ll tell you why they should have done a female character, because they haven’t before and it would be interesting to play as one. Using your feminine wiles to distract and destroy.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. strikkebil

    @37
    maybe im just thinking of a gta game like we know it. looking back i cant imagine playing as female character in any of the past games. i could however easily imagine playing as a woman in red dead for example, or even hitman. i wouldnt not buy the game if the main character was female, i just dont see any need for it in this series.
    @38
    great idea
    LOL:)

    #39 2 years ago
  40. Levester

    fact is, is that the VAST majority of gta players are male, and its easier to connect with your character when he/she shares your gender. Gender will dictate things like mannerisms, background, awareness, and all environmental interactions.
    theres nothing wrong with having a female character, but forcing it on a game just so the studio can appeal to women is stupid. the game isnt about your character’s sexual encounters. granted that was present in other games, but it wasnt the focus.
    the “fans” who claim that the game needs a female protagonist aren’t real fans at all, because they dont know what the game is about.

    #40 2 years ago
  41. Mike

    Nice sex reference on the headline. Goes well with the tits on the poster. Hopefully we’ll get some nudity next. Maybe a couple of girls frolicking with each other. All R* tongue in cheek of course, then it’s ok.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. death_489

    May GOD have mercy on you Dave , lol

    i like how you respond to the comments , just try to listen to the fans of the website if they insist on something like put only news , i don’t like to repeat reading the same things , but i think they are too harsh on you , unless if the website made an opinion threat or something like that , this article would be really welcomed to me especially on a game like gta or gt or ff versus or the last of us ..etc

    I wouldn’t mind playing a female character , just make the story serious , i think that would be something new , special and evolving , they just need a story of a girl that suffered and had a hard life but didn’t give up and get over it in her own way …

    #42 2 years ago
  43. NocturnalB

    Who knew not having a female protagonist in a video game would cause a god damned international incident on the VG247 comments board. Get over yourselves, really. What are you gonna do, start a class action lawsuit over how someone is running their own intellectual properties?

    #43 2 years ago
  44. Moonwalker1982

    IGN is promising a full week of GTA V next week. All exclusive content every day of the week. Apparently a video with gameplay too.

    #44 2 years ago
  45. Phoenixblight

    @43

    Only one commenter is actually boycotting the game because the lack of female protagonist. Everyone else is saying it would be a good idea to do it in the series. Hyperbole much?

    #45 2 years ago
  46. NocturnalB

    @45 Spare me the trolling, really. Every one of you commenting on that subject complained. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

    #46 2 years ago
  47. Phoenixblight

    Prove it.

    I know what I said and it was in no way complaining.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. NocturnalB

    Fine, whining, whatever word you want to label it with.

    #48 2 years ago
  49. Phoenixblight

    @47

    Again grabbing at straws. Where do I say anything related to whining,complaining or whatever similar word you have thought up. You have nothing.

    #49 2 years ago
  50. stretch215

    While thinking of GTA , the last thing that comes to mind is “I wish I could play as a woman”. Who fucking cares? Just make the game fun.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. Clupula

    You know, I’d like to play as a female character in a GTA game, BUT the majority of criminals do tend to be male, so I can see why they haven’t ever written a female protagonist. I mean, you do have to look at the setting. It’s like when people complained that John Marston took orders from a rapist in RDR. Well, yeah, look at the frigging setting and his circumstances. He’s trying to see his family again, so I think he would’ve worked with the devil himself if it got him to what he wanted.

    Look at the story and see if the type of protagonist you want would actually fit before complaining.

    #51 2 years ago
  52. OrbitMonkey

    GTA is male orientated gangster fantasy… It will never feature a playable, female lead…

    Unless she’s a ex-stripper, turned assassin, lesbian, mud-wrestler…

    Who used to be a man.

    #52 2 years ago
  53. GwynbleiddiuM

    @Orbit, lol man, spot on.

    #53 2 years ago
  54. polygem

    indeed!

    #54 2 years ago
  55. Clupula

    Well, exactly. Let’s be 100% serious here. The guy who said he is going to boycott this, because it doesn’t have a female lead…tell us exactly what you think the female character’s backstory should be.

    #55 2 years ago
  56. xxJPRACERxx

    A female lead would be totally unrealistic. I know there’s female criminal, but they don’t do the kind of stuff you do in a GTA game.

    #56 2 years ago
  57. Phoenixblight

    @56

    Because GTA is totally based off reality? Male criminals totally take a bike into a building so they drive through it to get to another skyscrapper. Reality doesn’t apply in videos games.

    #57 2 years ago
  58. xxJPRACERxx

    @57

    GTA games are caricatures, but they’re based on reality.

    When I watch the news and they mention high-speed police chase, robbery, hold-up, shooting, assassination, etc… 99% of the time, people committing these crimes are males.

    #58 2 years ago
  59. Phoenixblight

    @58

    Thats irrelevant. Its a video game and because of that the studios and developers can create their own rules for their games. There are plenty of female criminals and Rockstar has them in the series.

    In San Andreas there was a “girlfriend” that you would drive around and you would stop at places for her to go around shooting places and killing people. SO apparently Rockstar didn’t get the memo.

    There are also plenty of female gangs especially in the LA area that do exactly what the male versions do.

    #59 2 years ago
  60. xxJPRACERxx

    @59

    I know there’s female gangs and criminals but they’re generally less extreme than males.

    I wouldn’t mind playing a female lead but I think they should have to change the gameplay a lot to fit.

    But the real difference is that I want my GTA game to be realistic as possible (GTA IV was the 1st GTA I liked because it was more real than the others) but you seem to want your GTA games to be less realistic. So I don’t think we’ll ever agree on this one.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. Sylrissa

    @60

    This does seems to come down to a matter of taste in what you want from a GTA game, as GTA IV was the first one I didn’t like (until they released The ballad of gay tony, which was amazing), I found both Sleeping dogs and Saints row the third far more to my liking then GTA IV, and while I will give GTA V a fair chance, I’m not a fan of the “realistic as possible” direction they are going in.

    #61 2 years ago
  62. Uncontested

    The only people that want a female lead in GTA are the same socially inept losers who make female characters in MMOs with the excuse that they “rather stare at a girls ass than a mans ass”

    #62 2 years ago
  63. OrbitMonkey

    @62, & Women themselves… Oh wait, girls only play Cooking Mama & the like… My bad :|

    #63 2 years ago
  64. Sylrissa

    @63 I was supposed to be playing games like those?. I’ve been playing games wrong all these years and didn’t even know it! :P

    #64 2 years ago
  65. monkeygourmet

    Should have skipped a gen and gone with PS4 / 720…

    Can’t help to think this will be a shell of what it could have been.

    #65 2 years ago
  66. Dragon246

    Its GTA5! Although I will be disappointed if they concentrate on making a bigger world than a living world. Big world with less activities to fill it would suck. Glad they are making a game at the tail end of the gen as now they can fully utilise the hardware without any technical problems they would have faced early on.

    #66 2 years ago

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