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Valve favours open Linux platform to Windows 8 & iTunes

Monday, 5 November 2012 12:12 GMT By Dave Cook

Valve really dislikes Windows 8 doesn’t it? The studio has poured more fuel on the flaming debate surrounding Microsoft’s OS – and now Apple’s iTunes format – stating that it prefers the open nature of Linux. Find out why below.

PCGamesN reports that Valve engineer Drew Bliss gave a talk at the Ubuntu Summit in Copenhagen recently, where he distanced Steam and Windows 8.

“If you look at the way the world is going,” Bliss began, “where you see Apple completely in control of their system, and at least part of Windows 8 entirely controlled by the Microsoft App Store, Steam is going to be a little bit harder to do – both in the store aspect and in the content delivery aspect.”

“We want to continue developing in open platforms,” Bliss added, “and so we’re looking around, and obviously Linux has become a very viable alternate platform. So we are now looking into doing Steam for Linux and supporting as many of our Steam games for Linux as we can.”

Bliss concluded, “We want to remove one roadblock that people have with Linux usage and keep the open platform alive. If Microsoft goes the way Apple has and Windows and Macintosh are, both completely closed ecosystems, Linux really is the best alternative for everybody. So we want to help it be as good a platform as possible.”

What’s your take on ‘closed’ formats? Is Apple’s walled approach something that puts you off, or do open platforms like the Android Jelly Bean-powered Ouya console present a more palatable format? Let us know below.

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19 Comments

  1. Dragon246

    MS chasing Apples….
    As said in a gamasutra article, pc gaming was perfect in in win7. Now things are changing for the worst.

    #1 3 years ago
  2. Talkar

    These guys really need to chill. Windows 8 isn’t a closed platform by any stretch of the imagination. The only Windows Store apps i have installed are the ones i made myself. Everything else is business as usual.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. roadkill

    @2 It is actually. Any person would choose Linux over Windows if they could play games on it.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. viralshag

    That’s too bad they don’t like the system but really, what can they do? Surely a large portion, if not the majority, of their users will be using Windows in some form or another.

    @3, Got anything to back up the claim that “any person” would choose Linux?

    #4 3 years ago
  5. Talkar

    @3
    I’m not choosing it.
    There, just disproved your theory.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. Freek

    Steam is exactly the same wall garden as the Windows 8 app store or I-Tunes.
    Valve is simply spreading a little FUD to undermine the competition.
    Steam runs exactly the same on Win 8 as it does on Win 7. And the existence of an MS app store does not change that you can install what ever you want on your Win 8 pc. Same goes for your iMac, iTunes is another way to get software, not the only way.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. Maximum Payne

    @6 Pretty much this.
    I don’t know what Valve want to do.Like we are all going to change to linux to play source based game ?

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Pytox

    I bet they think MS is going to make it so only them can sell games on Windows store and no one else could.

    #8 3 years ago
  9. TheBlackHole

    Valve are worried about the competition. They’re worried about being to Microsoft what Zynga are to Facebook.

    Not keen on how often they keep calling MS out over this though. Valve are starting to resemble the kind of company I was always happy they weren’t.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. _LarZen_

    Windows RT is a closed plattform, but that is for tablets etc. PC users have the full version of Windows8 and are just as free as Win7 and back.

    People that say otherwise dont know what they are talking about, and if Valve think that people will drop Windows 8 for Linux they must be crazy or something.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. deathgaze

    The fact of the matter is that Linux nerds have been saying for years that the OS will be able to compete with Windows… and 15 years later, it still hasn’t happened. Is Linux a great server OS? The best! But it’s not good where it counts: It’s still not a consumer-use operating system. Take Ubuntu, for example: Driver support is still abysmal, major releases are still buggy piles of dog shit and the OS is almost completely opaque to anyone who’s never used a command line (which is about 90% of us). Has it gotten better? Absolutely! However, it hasn’t come anywhere close to keeping pace with the likes of Windows and OSX. What’s more, there’s no indication that it will ever be able to keep up.

    Linux nerds like Gabe Newell and Drew Bliss need to take their inbred superiority complex and shove it. Linux sucks for consumers. That’s not to be taken a judgement of open systems as a whole, but Linux demonstrates (just as previous versions of Windows did/still do) the problems that can be caused by having open computer systems: They’re unreliable. They often fail to account for outside use scenarios. They require expert knowledge to fix if something goes wrong (which often does, because it runs ANYTHING!). I dunno about you guys, but I like my computers to WORK.

    If Gabe Newell and Company want to keep kicking up dust over Windows 8′s supposed deficiencies, they should open Source Steam and open THEIR platform up to the masses. Then we’ll see how great “open systems” really are.

    Bottom line is this: Windows Store is not the end of the world. It’s not the end of open Windows operating systems and it’s certainly not going to impact Gabe Newell’s pocketbook. At the end of the day, I’m left scratching my head as to what Linux nerds are actually trying to accomplish. Linux is certainly a great operating system. It’s just not great for the masses and it never will be. The sooner Linux nerds recognize this, the sooner we can worry about Apple crushing both Microsoft and Linux.

    #11 3 years ago
  12. Omelette

    I don’t know why you’re bashing on Linux so much. As I see it, Valve is only saying that they are porting Steam and their game on to Linux, WHICH ISN’T EVEN REMOTELY A BAD THING. I still didn’t see anywhere that Valve is going to withdraw their support for their Windows version.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. Nelius

    Not keen on using any MS product with a Metro interface, that includes the newly released Metrotiles 8.

    Sure it makes ‘consuming’ the (irrelevant) micro content easier on tablets and phones but for any purpose larger and more complex in scope it is lacking (such as advanced Window, File and Item management) and the new Start screen UI layer is just an added hindrance (for efficient multitasking).

    Metro is also signalling that Microsoft intends to head further into a closed and more regulated environment. Desktop is already being called legacy and Office is already being adapted for Metro. If every product and service ends up being centralized around a MS controlled Metro environment this will seriously affect innovation. Thus far anyone could develop innovative services, software or content and benefit from it by releasing directly to interested users. Whereas in Metro your product will be subject to MS approval and could be easily declined or sidelined if it ‘conflicts’ with their (monetary) interests or if MS does not share your foresight. The latter quality of foresight has spectacularly failed MS over the years and has resulted in behemoth rival companies. Innovative products and services such as Steam, Google, Youtube, Facebook, iOS etc would never have come to fruition in a MS controlled Metro environment without being dismissed as irrelevant or being sidelined by MS branded (less featured) equivalents.

    So why shouldn’t I prefer an OS that operates fully in a desktop environment where there is no compromises and restrictions on the end-user operation and on innovative development. I’d also prefer a more efficient (keyboard & mouse oriented) UI that includes a Start button menu to boot. If that means Windows 7 will be the last MS product I will use before switching to Linux so be it.

    As a PC gamer I could not be happier with Valves decision to push game developer and driver support for the open Linux platform.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. xxJPRACERxx

    All Gabe is saying is MS is slowly but surely making each new version of Windows a closed system. Win 8 is still open but the new app-store is a hint of the direction MS is heading, so Valve is preparing themselves.

    Making Linux a viable game OS should take years so it’s a good idea they (now Valve, maybe later nVidia and AMD) start now, not when it will be too late, probably with the release of Win X.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. GwynbleiddiuM

    @11 as a free platform, I’d say it worked out pretty well. YES, it’s completely free, you download it out of Ubuntu’s website, and install it, the installation is also pretty easy. Linux never had the marketing campaign that Microsoft sat up for Windows, Linux does not have a gigantic development budget, and it serves its purpose just the way intended as a free all around OS that does many things, not everything, it is certainly achievable if it gets the right amount of attention from interested parties. It’s a free platform for all, users, devs, everyone, compared to a $100 USD Windows.

    What all these software devs are worried is that every platform closing up tight, therefore every product distributed through these platform has to be exactly according to the terms and rules that are set for that platform. This will effect the freedom that the developers have in terms of developing a product according to what they envisioned, it has many other cons to. There are are positive aspects to it as well, but the way I see it all that these outspoken devs are saying is the fact that they don’t want to enter an era that each platform is as closed as a smartphone with a little appstore providing what customers need according to the limitations that the platform owner dictates.

    PC always have been an open platform and Microsoft always was the dominant OS provider, now they want to own the PC, and set the bar as they see fit and the way it would work for them.

    Have you guys learned nothing from the wisdom of Old Snake? “The age of deterrence has become the age of control.”

    And he who controls the PC, controls the market.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. DSB

    I think the consumer should be the one to worry. It’s not like every company abuses that model, but every company who does use it, can.

    See the difference between a company like EA who feels that a proprietary client should be used to do away with sales and allow you to gouge prices, and Valve who feels that their marketshare is better used to dump prices.

    One is great for me, the other is really only great for the proprietor.

    That being said, it’s not like Valve are calling it just yet, they’re just using the potential of that happening to get on Linux.

    Microsoft does work in mysterious ways, but completely undermining their own platform just so they can be like Apple and tickle a few platforms just strikes me as unusually self-destructive.

    Then again, I’ve tried a Zune. Self-destructive is definitely within their repertoire.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. AmiralPatate

    I agree with #15. Ubuntu is a good, free OS that can do many, many things. It can do basically everything I do on Win7. Except games. The day I have a Linux system capable of running games, I’ll seriously consider leaving Windows forever, especially if it has become a closed system.

    In the meantime, Win7 runs fine so I’m certainly not moving to Win8 (which I only heard bad things about).

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Christopher Jack

    His problem is he can’t have a start menu app without following MS’ strict guidelines. I am running Windows 8 & really dislike Metro apps anyways, might suit a tablet but for my non-touch laptop, desktop is a million times better.

    To be frank, if I were to choose between an Android, Windows RT & iOS tablet, I’d definitely pick up the Android, even if I could get the iPad mini at the same price as the Nexus 7 or the Surface & 4th gen iPad at the same price as the Nexus 10, I’d still grab the Nexus tablets first. Android isn’t by any stretch perfect, but that’s kind of its charm, we all have a different perspective of perfect & Android allows you to adjust quite a lot to try to obtain that yourself.

    There’s also the app selection, afaik the iPad only runs apps optimized for it & that’s a double edged sword, you get better optimization but I think you’d have more to choose from Android (most scale well but variation can also be a double edged sword) while Windows RT is pretty much naked.

    #18 3 years ago
  19. blackjauer

    @5 Fuck you.

    #19 2 years ago

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  • Bungie weekly update: Commendations begone

    Destiny’s weekly update is here to determine the fate of all those Commendations you’ve been earning in the past few months. Bungie started off this week’s update with a recap of the details revealed during the recent livestream. There wasn’t really anything on this front that they haven’t talked about already. With the exception of […]

  • This GTA 5 trainer lets you play as almost anything and it’s the best thing ever

    Want to play GTA 5 as a monkey, a cat, a fish, a deer or some other non-human thing that we eat or keep as a pet? ScriptHook has you covered. Not only can you play as critters, it change other game values, according to an explanation from PC Gamer. These values include making changes […]

  • EA Sports moves Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR release date to July

    EA Sports has announced Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR will be released in July. Originally announced for June, the golf game will now release the same week as the Open Championship at St. Andrews, on July 14. EA also provided some more color on gameplay features such as the ability to customize the game by borrowing […]

  • Jason Voorhees joins Mortal Kombat X in May, Kombat Pack owners get first dibs

    Jason Voorhees will arrive for Mortal Kombat X players in May, NetherRealm Studios announced today during the latest Kombat Kast. Jason will be shown for the first time on Monday, May 4 during a special Kombat Kast. According to EventHub which watched the livestream, the developer will also show off the character’s move and Variations. […]

  • The Witcher 3: Nvidia heads to Poland for a behind-the-scenes look – video

    A video for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has been released, taking you behind-the-scenes with CD Projekt RED. Nvidia’s GeForce crew went to the firm’s studio in Poland to talk with the game’s executive producer John Mamais, who provides a look at the PC version of the upcoming RPG. CD Projekt, according to the video […]

  • Microsoft notes decline in Xbox unit sales for Q3 FY15 to 1.6 million

    Microsoft reported its Q3 FY15 earnings today, citing growth in Xbox Live usage as one of the contributing factors to the firm’s reported revenue. However, the firm noted a decline in units sales for its Xbox consoles during the quarter. Microsoft Q3 2014 (yoy comparison) Microsoft Q1 fiscal 2015 Microsoft Q2 fiscal 2015 The firm […]

  • Powerplay is a new feature included in the Elite: Dangerous May update

    The next update for Elite: Dangerous is coming next month and it includes a new feature called Powerplay. According to Frontier Developments, Powerplay allows players to participate in an ongoing battle that “enhances every aspect” of the game. Players can become allies with a number of galactic Powers and guide their strategy, pursue objectives in […]

  • Facebook says it’s “too early” to discuss large-scale shipments of Oculus Rift

    Facebook has said it is “too early” to discuss large-scale shipments of Oculus Rift as the VR headset is still in the development stages. Speaking during a call to investors, Facebook CFO David Wehner said the company had nothing to announce regarding the amount of stock it expected to ship. “We have not announced any […]

  • Battlefield Hardline’s first patch and rental server program hits next week

    Battlefield Hardline’s first patch has a release date for both consoles and PC. PC & Console patch and RSP for Consoles coming April 28th. Fixes include TDM spawns and more: http://t.co/BZYJeomPlr pic.twitter.com/27TCiY8hmf — Battlefield (@Battlefield) April 23, 2015 The update will include fixes to Punkbuster, Nvidia DirectX drivers, TDM spawns, contains weapon balance tweaks and […]

  • Modders can now earn money through Steam Workshop starting today with Skyrim

    Valve has introduced a new functionality within Steam Workshop which will allow mod makers to earn money for their creations, starting with Skyrim. The update will allow content such as mods, items, or maps to be sold through Steam Workshop for titles which have the feature enabled. A new “streamlined process for listing” has been […]

  • Play Skyrim for free this weekend on Steam and take 75% off while you’re at it

    Skyrim is free this weekend on Steam providing wanna-be Dragonborns who have procrastinated on wetting their blades with Stormcloak blood the perfect opportunity to give the RPG a try. Head over to Steam and download the game and play for free until April 26 at 1am PDT. The game is also 75% off if you […]

  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 “Ember” teaser video released ahead of full reveal

    Activision has released a Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 teaser video titled “Ember” and you can watch it right here. Here’s the video blurb: “In the next 50 years, technological advancements will lead us into a world where only those who risk going too far, will find out how far we can actually go.” […]

  • Dragon Age Keep update includes more customizability and control

    Bioware has updated Dragon Age Keep after listening to community feedback. The update includes more customization and control over heroes, world states, career and more. Players can now customize hero portraits or delete Dragon Age: Inquisition heroes from the Hero section. They can also remove playthrough states from the World State Manager and keep up […]

  • Here’s a look at some Conker community creations in Project Spark

    Conker’s Bug Reunion releases today, and below is a video showing some of the community creations you will be able to download using the creation pack. Project Spark is a free download on Xbox One and Windows 8.1, and you can download the Conker Creation Pack today. It contains 350 assets in order for users […]

  • Rainbow Six: Siege video shines spotlight on the British Counter Terrorist Unit

    Ubisoft has released a Rainbow Six: Siege video which gives you a look at the British Counter Terrorist Unit which features “the best of the Army, Navy, and Air Force.” The firm said that over the next few weeks it will introduce the public to each of the units in the game. Rainbow Six Siege […]

  • Mario Kart 8 DLC and Mewtwo for Super Smash Bros. headline eShop update in North America

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with an update and new DLC for Mario Kart 8 and the Mewtwo DLC for Super Smash Bros. Other highlights include Mario Kart DS on Wii U Virtual Console, the continuation of International StreetPass Week and more. Full update is below. Nintendo eShop Mario Kart […]

  • Square Enix host E3 2015 conference this year on June 16

    With Final Fantasy 15, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided on the horizon, it should come as no surprise to learn that Square Enix will be hosting a dedicated E3 2015 conference this year. The presentation will take place Tuesday, June 16 at 9am PDT/12pm EDT/5pm UK. It will be broadcast […]

  • Final Fantasy 4: The After Years 3D remake releasing on Steam next month

    Final Fantasy 4: The After Years has been given a makeover and will be released on Steam of PC next month. You can now pre-order it on Steam and take 10% off for the time being. The game will be released on the digital service May 12 and will include trading cards and achievements. Thanks, […]

  • This Project Cars video shows off the racer’s multiplayer

    Project Cars developer Slightly Mad has released a new video giving you a look at the game’s multiplayer. The game is out next month, and if you would like to refresh yourself on the tracks included,  give this a look. While you are clicking links, here’s the minimum and recommended PC specifications which dropped last […]

  • Looks like Logitech is getting out of OEM mouse production business [Clarification]

    Logitech will no longer produce “low-end” mice, citing a decline in PC accessories. This story has been updated to include a clarification. According to a Reuters report, per MCV, the firm will instead focus on video accessories and streaming music, as its wireless Bluetooth speakers are now its best-selling product rage. This will help offset […]

  • Win! We have 1,000 Heroes of the Storm beta keys to give away

    Must have more MOBA? Win one of our 1,000 Heroes of the Storm beta keys and see if you’re more Blizzard than LoL. Can’t wait for June 2? Of course you can’t. We have 1,000 closed beta keys for Heroes of the Storm to give away this week, allowing you access before Blizzard’s MOBA goes […]

  • Xenoblade Chronicles X Nintendo Direct airs tomorrow, April 24

    A Nintendo Direct devoted entirely to Xenoblade Chronicles X will air this Friday, April 24. The video showcase will start at 11am PDT/2pm EDT/7pm UK. After the showcase, a new Nintendo Treehouse: Live presentation featuring the game will air. This is the second Xenoblace Chronicles X Nintendo Direct, but the first in English. The first […]

  • Blizzard will have 500 game stations set up at gamescom 2015

    Blizzard is heading to gamescom 2015 in August and it will have 500 game stations set up for attendees to get their hands on five of its titles. The developer will be set up in Hall 7 and those who stop by will be able to get hands-on with the latest content for Heroes of […]

  • PS4 price cut to £299 in UK

    Sony has dropped the price of the PS4 in the UK. For a limited time only, you can grab the console for £299.99 from Argos, Game, Tesco and Very. Go to Amazon.co.uk and you’ll get it for £289. You’ve only got until April 28, then it goes back up to £349. Go, go, go. For […]

  • Mad Max: first ever gameplay footage revealed

    Today, we get to finally take our first look at gameplay from Mad Max. Avalanche and Warner Bros. have shown off the first gameplay trailer for Mad Max today. The trailer below offers a look at melee combat, car combat, customisation and much more. Give it a watch below: There are a few new screenshots […]

  • Overlord: Fellowship of Evil has four-player co-op like we figured

    Codemasters has pulled the veil back on the next Overlord game, and its a four-player co-op game called Overlord: Fellowship of Evil. Rhianna Pratchett is back to write the story. The game may be co-op at its core, but it can still be played single-player. Each of the four playable character have strengths and weaknesses, […]

  • Update now available for Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, Pokemon X and Y

    Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire along with Pokemon X and Y are being updated by Nintendo to fix a few bugs and in-game text. There’s also the possibility of a few hacks and exploits being fixed. Per Nintendo Life (via Serebii), both patches are 250-270 blocks in size, and it’s a mandatory update which […]

  • Side-scrolling cover shooter Not a Hero gets a demo

    Not a Hero, the upcoming game from OlliOlli developer Roll7, has received a demo. The demo for Not a Hero was made available today on Steam. In the game, you play as Steve, the campaign manager for BunnyLord. A time-travelling rabbit who’s running for mayor of London. Think this is an absurd premise? This trailer […]

  • You have until April 30 to export your Green Day: Rock Band tracks to Rock Band 3

    Harmonix has announced that those looking to export their song collection from Green Day: Rock Band into Rock Band 3 can only do so until the end of the month. April 30 will be the cutoff date for anyone who wants to export tracks from Green Day: Rock Band into their Rock Band 3 library, […]

  • Batman: Arkham Knight minimum, recommended, and ultra PC specs revealed

    Batman: Arkham Knight is looking like it’s going to be quite a taxing game. Nvidia has released a list of the minimum, recommended, and ultra PC requirements for Batman: Arkham Knight. Here’s the full thing: Minimum OS: Win 7 SP1, Win 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required) Processor: Intel Core i5-750, 2.67 GHz | AMD Phenom […]

  • Bloodborne patch 1.03 is live, reduces loading times, fixes suspend/resume bugs, more

    Patch 1.03 is now live for Bloodborne. The patch reduces loading times, adds item descriptions to loading screens, and fixes other various bugs. From Software has pushed update 1.03 live to all Bloodborne owners. As promised, it reduces loading times by approximately 5 to 15 seconds. Another new addition is showing item descriptions instead of […]

  • Battlefield 4: first look at Community Map in action

    Get your first look at the map designed by the community of Battlefield 4. Battlefield 4′s community-designed map is a reality. DICE has recently updated CTE to include an early version of the map. It’s not fully textured as Westie is about to show you, but the layout is nearly finalised. Westie goes over the […]

  • Microsoft apologises for uploading misleading Witcher 3: Wild Hunt footage

    Xbox’s YouTube channel uploaded a video of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt yesterday that was captured from the PC build. The most recent gameplay video for the The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt appeared on the Xbox YouTube channel and showed a quest from the game’s opening section. A few minutes after it had gone live, […]

  • Assassin’s Creed creator’s new game is Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey

    Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey is the game Assassin’s Creed creator Patrice Desilets has been working on. Patrice Desilets has just announced that the next game his indie studio Panache Digital Games is making is called Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey. The announcement comes from Desilets’s keynote at the Reboot Develop event in Croatia. The trailer started […]

  • Bloodborne: Cathedral Ward closed door mystery solved

    The mystery of the locked door at the bottom of the Cathedral Ward in Bloodborne has been solved. Bloodborne, like earlier From Software games, is filled with doors that don’t open the first time you try them. Some will give you “locked” messages, others “does not open from this side”. Some of these will open […]

  • Assassin’s Creed creator Patrice Desilets is revealing his next game now [UPDATE: ended]

    Patrice Desilets, one of the original creators of Assassin’s Creed is hosting a presentation where he’s expected to talk about his next project. Patrice Desilets has emerged once again. This time he’s attending development conference in Croatia. Desilets is giving a live keynote and there’s a good chance we’re going to hear about his next […]

  • Destiny House of Wolves: everything you need to know about gear upgrades & The Reef

    Bungie revealed plenty of important details in last night’s Destiny stream. Let’s go over everything. Alex wants to make sure you don’t miss any of the information revealed yesterday. Most of it affects all Destiny players too, even those who don’t intend on buying House of Wolves. During the first stream, Bungie explained the armour […]