Chivalry dev believes women don’t want female characters

Jesus Christ what a bunch of bollocks.

Bullshit. They were just too lazy to create female models and that’s it.

I actually don’t think they have to explain themselves. If they choose not to include female characters so be it, it’s their game. But that Bullshit doesn’t help anyone.

Whats the point in adding something when people wont use it, plus did woman fight in the medieval times?

meh, as a guy i play males if it’s first person perspective or camera far away, but females if right behind the character for “dat ass” effect. But I wouldn’t cry about it if only female toons were present.
Also, females typically look better in armors etc, see d3 or any mmo i guess.

WELP. Considering the nontrivial quotent of lady gamers I know of hanging around on tumblr, I’m almost tempted to drop this on mine just to watch the hellstorm that would assuredly arise from it. It’s tempting, but I’m not really into schadenfreude.

Still, this is a bunch of baloney. What women don’t want is sexualised characters, they don’t want women who’re there to be drooled at by horny virgins. That is what those I’ve spoken with are not fond of. But when you have something tasteful and modest, like the engineer from Torchlight II, they’d support it greatly.

So long as you didn’t put your women in chainmail bikinis, and you actually treated them with the same respect that you’d treat your men, you’d find that women would have more interest in your game.

But hey, what do I know?

“What women don’t want is sexualised characters”

I must be a woman then, because i hate that too.

@3

Yes. Yes they did.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=did+women+fight+in+medieval+times

@6

Same here. I was trying to put it from a sympathetic angle, though, as I tend to hear that a lot. I don’t want to say this as ‘hey, this is something I don’t want’ because this isn’t my view alone. This is the view of pretty much every woman I’ve talked to on the topic.

So you don’t want it, I don’t want it, and the women I’ve spoken with don’t want it. The sad part is is that this is then taken by some people (this dev) apparently as ‘we don’t want women in games.’ And that’s bizarre. We do want women in games, but we want them to be shown to be as respectable as men are.

His point is that the maturity level of gamers is such that they will teabag all the female characters.

It’s nothing to do with the female characters being sexualised from a character design standpoint.

@8: The thing that pisses me off the most is that many devs actually do want to include women in erm, realistic clothes, but then comes some asshole advertiser/publisher and says “MAIK DEM MOA SXE! POPEL LUV SEX! SX SELLS!”

Not knowning that Sex attracts, but is not the reason why things sell.

…

Aside from porn that is.

But that’s the thing, why would anyone buy a game because the girl on the cover isn’t wearing anything? They can fap to porn anytime they want! It’s ridiculous and it alienates a huge chunk of the possible user base. That is one of many reasons why i avoid MMORPG’s. That genre is just full of over sexualized female characters.

@9:

“His point is that the maturity level of gamers is such that they will teabag all the female characters.”

So what?

@3, Joan of Arc says “Bon jour ”

Still a bit saddened , no big tittied wenchs running around in bikini chainmail

@7 I can’t believe I’m responding to you, notorious as you are at making bad points ad nauseam, but…

You do realise there are far more female gamers than there were female warriors during the medieval times? Female soldiers and especially knights were rare, rare enough that Joan of Arc remains a historical milestone and a reference in nearly every discussion on the physical equality of either gender.

As for Torn Banner, should’ve just gone with the historical accuracy excuse. At least that would’ve been more plausible and warrant less sensationalist articles.

Not very chivalrous of them.

Sounds like a very old fashioned excuse to exclude women, along the lines of “women, with their delicate sensibilities, should not be expected to endure the harsh realities of a mans world, and shall therefore be excluded, for their own protection” except with a modern bullshit spin.

1880 called…

C’mon guys, its a well known fact that women are delicate little flowers who shrink away from violence & are completely at the mercy of big strong men!

These are the awkward catch-22 situations you get when people try too hard to find controversy, and developers are put in a tough situation.

They could include women and risk being declared misogynists/rape supporters and face a media attack over anything that happens ingame, a baseless accusation of violence against women can easily snowball without having to make any sense, so long as it’s emotionally charged it can explode and get out of hand.

It only took Battlefield 3 a single line from an NPC “I’m getting my shit pushed in over here”, for Kotaku to write a lengthy article declaring the game to be homophobic.

Or they could take the less moral but safer route and exclude women overall and avoid the paranoia altogether.

The developers of God of War recently claimed that they would no longer allow women to be harmed in-game the same way as men, as a response to various controversies.

I can see this potentially reaching a point where female characters are treated the same as children in games, given an invincibility field and only killed off screen to avoid controversy.

It seems like the feminist trends in gaming are pushing to infantalize women and discourage female characters from being put in the same situations as men. We are going backwards because negatives make better headlines than positives.

The Chivalry devs will be damned for excluding women, and inevitably other devs with be damned far worse for including them and allowing them to face harm or some controversial situation, it only takes one blogger to “perceive” some form of implied rape to get the ball rolling.

Gaming is such a messed up place for girls. I know a bunch of girls that game, and they get down to bid-ness! Girls truly don’t care about playing male characters most of the ones i know do play male characters(and kick ass), but on the same note that’s usually because they don’t have much choice.

And ALL the girls i know who play stay off of stuff like Xbox Live comms, because of the idiots, unless it’s people they know. Pretty stupid how people get, I’ve been on comms with them before. Girl i knew who said something once in a public Black Ops game, soon as they heard a girls voice she had to leave because they all started harassing her so badly they weren’t even playing the match anymore, just messing with her and being disgusting.

Why is it such a big girl to meet a girl who plays games? I’ve been through 2 girlfriends who gamed as much as i do. I just don’t get why it’s like that every time.

Can’t believe I’m saying I agree with TheWulf only on his first comment.

Also, woman in military roles are underrated and undermined in history. A few examples can be found here: http://womenshistorymonth.wordpress.com/resources/women-and-series/women-and-war/female-warriors/

Well for starters this isn’t War of the Roses, trying to recreate an authentic medieval conflict, so historical accuracy can’t be an excuse.

Chivalry is set in a fictional world so they could introduce what they want, and as long as the female characters were outfitted in the same level of armour coverage I wouldn’t see the problem.

However if they don’t want to include female characters, then that’s fine, but just say so, don’t try and give me some justification for it.