RIFT players will “never” be offered a lifetime subscription option, says Trion

Friday, 26th October 2012 15:27 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

RIFT players will “never” get the chance to purchase a lifetime subscription to the game, according to Trion global brand director Jim Butler.

Speaking with A List Daily, Butler called it a “financial disaster” for the companies relying on subscriptions for funding.

“Nope, never,” he said. “I was against the idea when we did it at Turbine, and it won’t happen on my watch here at Trion.

“Lifetime memberships are a great deal for consumers that plan to spend the next few years playing the game, and a financial disaster for subscription-only companies that have to continue paying for new feature development, salaries, server costs, marketing, etc. Ultimately, it’s a bad deal for the consumer in the long-term.”

Star Trek Online, Lord of the Rings Online, and Champions Online are just some of the MMOs out there which have offered players a lifetime subscription option in the past. Most offers were limited-run, and allowed the player to play a one-time fee in lieu of paying a monthly or quarterly subscription fee.

Players who took advantage of these offers still have to fork over cash for expansions, and for the MMOs which are now free-to-play, lifers still have to pay for items up for grabs via the in-game stores – although many games hand out VIP or lifetime players a stipend of game currency on a monthly basis.

Thanks, Massively.



  1. dsr

    F2P in a few months confirmed


    #1 2 years ago
  2. TheWulf

    Because the lifetime subscriptions hurt Lord of the Rings Online and Star Trek Online so much financially. Oh… wait. No it didn’t.

    This seems like the higher ups in business told their ‘face’ to cook up a line for them about why lifetime subscriptions are bad. And it’s painfully obvious that that is indeed what’s happened, because he’s full of it. I can’t imagine that he’d say something like this of his own volition.

    Then again, who knows? There might actually be people out there who’d actually believe him. Perish the thought.

    — Edit —

    Also, that article is incredibly misleading, Steph. You can’t pay to win in either Champions Online or Star Trek Online. It’s impossible. The options on the store are more benign than what World of Warcraft has on its store.

    For example, WoW will sell you a mount. That is buying power. Champions Online will sell you a skin for your character, or your character’s power. You look different, but your power output doesn’t change. You continue to be on the same level playing field as someone else. Same with Star Trek Online.

    I mean, consider: In Champions Online I can buy the halloween critters costume pack, the distortion speed travel power, and be the same as everyone else, just looking different. In STO, I can buy an Exeter-class ship, and be the same as everyone else, just looking different. In WoW I can buy a mount and skip having to spend money on one in the game, whilst having the bonus of a top speed flying mount from the earliest point in the game (bypassing a lot of costs).

    #2 2 years ago
  3. treborr

    The last bit about being able to bypass buying the best flying is incorrect TheWulf. All mount fly at whatever skill level you have.

    Where does it mention pay to win?

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Stephany Nunneley

    @2 I never said you “pay to win” anywhere in there. I just plainly used those examples to prove that just because you are a lifer doesn’t mean you no longer “pay” money for anything.

    Lifers still have to pay for items up for grabs via the in-game store, they still have to buy the expansions. Those things are not free. Ergo, just because you are a lifer doesn’t mean the developers will no longer get money from you.

    As a LOTRO “lifer” I can attest to this as I have purchased every expansion, and the list of horse mounts I have purchased from the store is ridiculous. They need to come up with a “Herdmaster” title for mount collectors like me. Don’t even get me started on cosmetic cloaks or resurrections.

    In conclusion: even though I am a lifetime subscriber, Turbine still gets plenty of money from me.

    #4 2 years ago

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