Sony Japan cutting 2,000 jobs at head office

Comparing number of search results? On a console that’s been out for 6 years prior!?!? That’s the most intelligent way I’ve ever heard on how to settle a debate, bravo! Seriously! You my friend, are a genius!

@51, & 10 out of 10 of my 360 gaming friends had something go wrong with their consoles- therefore 100% failure rate! No one I know have ever had anything wrong with their PS2- therefore 0% failure rate!

Your reasoning is pathetic.

I’m not comparing numbers of search results, tool

I’m comparing disc drive problems.

@Chris

I couldn’t find figures but we know consoles failed so what’s the issue?

This was on Wikipedia, so it’s obvious the PS1 & 2 had failiure issues:

“A class action lawsuit was filed against Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc. on July 16, 2002, in the Superior Court of California, County of San Mateo. The lawsuit addresses consumer reports of inappropriate “no disc error” (disc read error) messages and other problems associated with playing DVDs and CDs on the PlayStation 2.
Sony settled its “disc read error” lawsuit by compensating the affected gamers with USD $25, a free game from a specified list, and the reduced cost repair or replacement (at SCEA’s discretion) of the damaged system. This settlement was subject to the courts’ approval, and hearings began in the US and Canada on April 28, 2006, and May 11, 2006, respectively.”

@54, I know the PS2 & PSOne has their issues, I’m just being a jackarse to the jackarse who seems to see it as some sort of moral victory. My point simply is that they weren’t as bad as this genius is crying on about. I think its time Da Man let his anger go, it’s seriously beyond pathetic how you enter every thread complaining about how Sony raped you.

@53- By search results!

@55

Right, I’ll let you both continue then!

#52 I wasn’t saying because I had issues it means a certain percent of failure rate,

I told you why I know all that, obviously you never opened that piece of shit.

Again, the console didn’t die but the disc drive became useless. Dres, misaligned laser, laser voltage.

#55 I never compared it that way, I just advised you to look it up since you seem to know nothing (or likely, deny it) about those.

Come back to me at 5 in the morning and tell me about anger management.

I googled ‘playstation disc read error’ & ‘xbox disc read error’, got around 50% more results with xbox- we both know that means nothing so what’s your point?

Right, which is why I advised you the aforementioned, Einstein. From the usual Dres through the manual voltage tweaks.

My point is about you saying rrods largely exceeded percentage of failed dvd-roms on pS2. Keep tricking yourself.

@60, But what’s your overall point? Does it matter?

#61

It matters in the sense that regardless of ‘percentage’ both are utter shit.

@62, Then why do you choose to generally only attack one brand?

#63

Probably because of the atmosphere. Besides I didn’t have the chance to comment on Rrods that much.

Also I really prefer consoles dying fast and immediate as opposed to months of agony with alien sounds. Originally, when that happened with Smackdown Here Comes The Pain I thought the disc was touching the drive or something. It was just a really annoying hardware.

I was forbidden from playing my 360 at night because it would keep the entire house awake, my PS3 got bad at points but never sounded like it was going to launch off the ground.

I was shocked to find out the X360S disc drive is just as loud.

It ‘s as if I’m playing with a weed whacker in the background.

@MG
For your reading pleasure, see the Reliability part of ps3 wiki article. It is far less severe than RROD.
“Your the only ‘fanboy’ in this scenario.”
Yeah, when did I use that word in my comment. Replying without reading eh?

And poly, want a link back for your defences of ninty?
Facts dude. If its ranting, then prove that anything of what I stated was erroneous. I will gladly accept it. Your definition of fanboyism is anything against ninty or halo and anything in favour of sony. I can see how my comment will be seen by you like a rant, and not the uninformed things your fellow ndf members post.

And yeah, I love how poly and mg have idealistic opinions of them having every console and others having nothing. Keep spreading your ignorant views dudes.

@47,
I wont go away. So you are free to make a wiki page on me. Its time you acted on what you say.
And fyi, 4chan and wikipedia arent same sites.

@42
I read that article a while ago while visiting vgchartz. Its a good read.
But do you know what Michael Dell said when he was asked how steve jobs can revive a floundering apple? He said jobs should shut it down.
For me the biggest problem for them was a foreign chief in a japanese conglomerate. He was unable to extend his influence on japanese branches on sony.

Grunt246, for someone constantly citing 4chan as an example you surely have a sarcasm disc drive of their quality.

Careful or you’ll rrod.

@67

Others were throwing the term around again, I just directed at you as you’re a great example.

Im honestly baffled by your stubbornness. It’s okay to be critical of something you own, it doesn’t mean I hate it.

I honestly hope Sony sorts it’s shit out but judging by their huge consistent string of mistakes it doesn’t look likely.

PS3, Home, Vita etc.. Have all been handled with typical arrogance brought on by assuming this gen would just be a repeat of the PS2 success.

Facts are, the markets changed and Sony’s stubbornness to move with the times could cost them.

Look at the title of this article, it’s not looking good my friend.

As for RROD and reliability, of course PS3 is better than 360, but it’s not exactly perfect. I’ve gone through 1 PS3 and 2 360′s, but considering I play the 360 a lot more it’s not surprising. The PS3 only gets wheeled out for exclusives.

How are these views ignorant by the way? Everything can be backed up by facts regarding Sony’s continuing struggle and bad decisions…

no need for a link, i said i defended nintendo against you and your crew pissing all over it saying they are irrelevant for gaming, only nintendo fans and fat moms do care, not real gamers because they do not produce real games anymore, only kids games, shovelware, wii´s collecting dust blablablablabla. again: you only hear what you wanna hear and i am sure if we talk with each other a year from now you will be able to see things a bit different yourself. call me arrogant now if ya like.
how many fucking times do you want me to tell you that i freaking love jak and daxter but don´t like the dualshock pad? that i love halo but hate the ads ms is forcing me to watch. that i love mario but…well i seriously cannot find many bad things about nintendo…because i honestly don´t think the wii needed xchat or great online or anything like that. call me a fanboy now if ya like. i don´t care anymore.

@69
“Others were throwing the term around again, I just directed at you as you’re a great example. ”
Says the guy who is blindly optimistic about wiiu, a console not even released. Thats what a fanboy does.
And remember the pie you will give me on new years.
@68
“Grunt246, for someone constantly citing 4chan as an example you surely have a sarcasm disc drive of their quality.

Careful or you’ll rrod.”
Do you know what you are saying? Improve your english. Your english is worse than a 5th grader.

being optimistic about a console which hasn´t been released makes you a fanboy?
aha ok….i would call that a passion for gaming.

@72
Missed the word “blindly” eh?

And can you provide me a link where I said ninty is for kids or irrelevant to gaming?

“well i seriously cannot find many bad things about nintendo…because i honestly don´t think the wii needed xchat or great online or anything like that.”
^ Shit like this makes you a fanboy.

Grunt246, are you for real and did you notify parents that you created this account?

@64
“Probably because of the atmosphere. Besides I didn’t have the chance to comment on Rrods that much.”
That proves that you dont know shit about what you talk. Always going with the “atmosphere” like DaTrolls do.

@74
Double standards. But its ninty, so its alright, nuff said.

^Just keep on crying in every Sony related article while simultaneously ignoring any MS/Nintendo/Acer/Benq/whatever.

Tell us more about double standards and atmosphere.

dragon: not nuff said. you said nothing. geki: your comment proves shit. does that make you a shitboy now?

Grunt246, finish the fight.

I could make a list of MS related products I find poor. Can you say anything negative about the precious?

@Dragon

I’ve made a lot of bets with you, care to remind me so I don’t have to trawl through articles?

Blindly optimistic?

There’s nothing blind about it.

It’s a new style of gaming, it’s affordable (to me), it’s got great launch games, I’m very interested in Nintendo network, I love couch multiplayer.

All these things are true.

Compare that to the PS3 launch.

Over priced, launch games were worse than 360 games, Bluray drive no one wanted.

The question is:

If Sony went bust and stopped making Playstation products, would you quit gaming altogether?

You act as if you would and that’s very sad. If you enjoy gaming you should be able to enjoy any console. Your loyalties limit your outlook, but hey, it’s your choice.

Also, is Geki your alt account so you can agree with yourself?

@79
As you have much time for trolling, you can visit vita and studios shutting pages and see my comments. Unlike DaTrolls and NDF, I can point out any company, not going with the atmosphere.

@78
Continue on.

Grunt246, fact is you never ever criticized your shitty precious oriental company.

Oh, much time you say? You mean like you do, with these defensive whiny little essays daily?

If you never went with the atmosphere, then you would react equally to MS or Nintendo dissing, which you never do. Instead, you sit there and type even more shitty flamings like the little troll you are.

True story.

@81
Considering how NDF stays together, I think all your accounts belong to a single ninty guy.

A lineup which contains ports of games released months ago. Amazing lineup indeed.
Although 23 games at launch is a good start.

@83
DaTroll states the fact, news to me.
“shitty precious oriental company”
Which one? DaTrolls incorporated?

Grunt246, just keep on quoting posts in isolation, posting shitty defensive paragraphs and accusing anyone who isn’t a Sony fanboy.

Then tell me about trolls and that 4chan which you regularly visit.

Pretty much what Poly said, good posting bud.

This Site just goes in cycles…. Officially gone to the shitter

^ The site is fine, the forumites just need a little fresh meat

What we all need the most is a next generation of hardware and games.

@88: nah come on…sure it is repetitive a bit. we are at the end of this console gen, so discussions become a bit like how they have been when it started. just natural.

(we gotta thank nintendo for the 3ds and wiiu….otherwise we´d have nothing new to talk about…ooops. sorry)

@og: thx

Edit: ha, just saw your last post after i dropped mine. so yea, definiteley need new gen.

Oh people going on about build quality. The same could be said for laptops i.e. PC v Mac.

But I used to be a Mac hater because I saw that my PC did the same things for a much lower price. I recently got given a Macbook air from work and I can honestly say the build quality is second to none and the OS is so simple and intuitive, there’s no nonsense on Mac OSX, on Windows I always feel I have to make it work. The only reason I have a PC is for gaming.

PS3 hasn’t failed it’s just over shadowed by the success of the PS2, and I’m sure if the DC didn’t die so quick the PS2 might of not grown as fast as it did. TBH Sony got luck with there timing of release of the system, but the library of games is crazy and in years to come it will still be known as the best gaming console to have ever been made fact.

@92

SNES says hello

@92
True

@93
ps2- 160m
snes-41m

#93 – True dat. Mega Drive, PSX and Nes too.

#94 – CoD Blops 16 million, FF X – 6 million. Tool246.

@94

He said ‘best’ gaming console, not most sales

My favorite is my penis. I play with it everyday, it never gets boring. Sure I guess it’s not as shiny as it used to be, but it hasn’t broken yet & the control system is so intuitive!

Oh you guys ain’t masturbating? Certainly seems like it to me :-/

fact is: my penis is much better than yours. it´s always on and has the most exclusives. if you think i am wrong: prove it.

Oh no! I’m not starting a cockfight! This thread is already hard to swallow, it doesn’t need anymore inches!

I hate my penis… he’s a filthy mess sweating everyday throwing up when I don’t want him to. And don’t get me started on his rude methods of waking me up in the morning.

I found the PS2 without GTA and Pro Evolution Soccer to be pretty useless, found the PS1 to be a more enjoyable experience due to the array of games that suited my tastes same as the incredible SNES

@Orbit
Your comments arent as funny as you think, taking the useless “holier than thou” approach.