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Family business: Sony’s Gara on PS3, Move and Vita

Tuesday, 2nd October 2012 09:29 GMT By Stace Harman

As Sony introduces its new slimmed-down console to the European market, VG247 catches-up with the managing director of PlayStation UK to discuss the offerings of the many members of its extended family.

“The 12Gb [Super Slim PS3] is targeted at who I best describe as the Book of Spells player, who will never need a big drive. The just need some space for some game saves and the occasional bit of install. It’s for those people that will never miss a higher capacity disk drive but who really appreciate the lower-entry price point.”

At the end of last week, Sony launched its new, 500GB super-slim PlayStation 3. From an aesthetic perspective, the new-look chassis represents a significant hardware revision, while the 500GB hard drive offers 56 percent more digital storage space that the previous 320GB premium model.

Despite its headline features, neither Sony nor its retail partners have yet begun to market the new model in earnest. Sitting down with Fergal Gara at this year’s Eurogamer Expo, I quiz him on the thinking behind launching with relatively little fanfare ahead of the industry’s key end-of-year quarter.

“We will make a bigger push at a slightly later stage,” assures Sony’s MD of PlayStation UK. “There are two models coming: the 500GB launched [Friday, September 28] and there’s the 12GB coming in a couple of weeks time. So, we’ll be making a bigger push in the UK once the two models are on the market.”

As should be apparent from the hard drive specs, these two SKUs are aimed at two very different consumers, as Gara explains.

“What you’re chiefly seeing with the new models is greater clarity in which model is for who. Previously, you had a medium and a high-spec offering, whereas now you have a specific model that’s better equipped for medium to high users. That doesn’t necessarily mean only high-gaming users but we do see download games as one of the biggest growth areas and so we’re giving them very big capacity for download games. So, it’s bigger capacity as well as being lower power consumption and a sleeker profile.

“The 12Gb model is almost the opposite and is targeted at who I best describe as the Book of Spells player, who will never need a big drive. They just need some space for some game saves and the occasional bit of install. It’s for those people that will never miss a higher capacity disk drive but who really appreciate the lower-entry price point.”

There’s also the potential for existing PS3 owners who find themselves seduced by the latest hardware revision to buy the 12GB model and swap out their existing PS3 hard drive. However, the 12GB model with its lower price point does raise a potential issue for those buying a PS3 for the first time.

The PS Plus quandary

PlayStation Plus has received a major push in the last few months, with the introduction of its Instant Game Collection initiative. Through this value-for-money proposition, high-profile titles such as Borderlands, Dead Space 2 and Red Dead Redemption have been made available for free to PS Plus subscribers. What this means is that, now more than ever, a PS Plus subscription requires a substantial hard-drive.

This translates to the potential for confusion amongst those new to PlayStation. In particular, the large number of parent-shoppers who are set to descend on retailers in the coming weeks. These are consumers who might be attracted by the allure of the excellent value for money that PS Plus represents, without fully understanding that in conjunction with the “attractively priced” 12GB PlayStation 3, PS Plus is effectively of no value whatsoever.

“I think that’s a fair challenge that we have to get across in marketing and in the training of store personnel that they know that a PS Plus consumer needs to have a hard drive, whether that’s an older model or a new model. But that’s a very fair point and absolutely right,” acknowledges Gara.

“We’re actively driving [digital development] on fronts like PS Plus and working with partners to bring the digital business into retail. So, we’re increasingly aiming at not having two silos; the two worlds are no longer separate.

“The presence of the digital proposition is a big reason to want to buy the console in the first place and the digital sales will be better if they have higher visibility with a presence at physical retail. Plus, we can support physical retail by giving them a slice of the digital action, so it’s no longer two separate worlds and we’re bringing them together.

“However, there are distinct segments of the market representing a lot of consumers – and we can see this from usage data – who do not need a drive. So, we’re giving them an easier access point and ensuring that our retail partners are well-informed of our products and services.”

Something that Gara is not able to shed light on in relation to PS Plus is the frustrating delays experienced by European subscribers who have long had to endure a discrepancy between the service’s EU and US offerings. This was highlighted most notably in recent months by TellTale’s The Walking Dead episodes. Gara acknowledges that it’s “an interesting conversation to have,” but that it falls outside of his remit as UK MD.

Could it be magic?

Gara’s earlier dubbing of the segment of the market at whom the 12GB model is aimed as “the Book of Spells player” is, of course, no coincidence. Book of Spells is Sony’s first title for its Wonderbook franchise and features original writing from high profile children’s author JK Rowling. Set to launch in November, this PS Move-centric peripheral is expected to generate significant interest among younger gamers.

Unlike its motion sensing Microsoft counterpart, Kinect, Move has not drawn the ire of gamers irritated with attempts to shoe-horn it into core titles, but neither has it been able bask in the light of any high-profile titles of its own. This is something that Gara believes is about to change, for the right crowd.

“I think that Move has found its killer piece of software a fair way down the line,” he offers. “Book of Spells is definitely the best piece of software that I’ve seen for Move; the technology is very robust. It isn’t the sole focus of our software development, but I definitely feel that as we go into Christmas that we’ve got the best piece of software and the sequel to the best piece of software before that.

“Sports Champions has been our best seller to date, so Sports Champion 2 comes this Christmas and we see an opportunity to give [Move] another lease of life. It does work very well, it’s just a question of whether we have the great experiences to put around it, and I think that now we do.”

Vita victorious

Sony’s handheld console got off to a slow start at retail and lacked a strong presence at this year’s E3. While Gara acknowledges that the handheld has had a quiet few months, he believes Vita to be well-placed in the run in towards Christmas.

“We’re generally happy with how it’s been received by consumers, we’re want to get more sales, we’re very happy with the line-up going into Christmas, we’re certainly very committed to it and will be spending very heavily to get push into Christmas,” Gara says, as he counts the points off on his fingers.

“We have been pretty quiet over the summer as there was very little software coming out on, well, frankly on any format, so in terms of a big marketing push at that time we thought it better to wait. But we have now been back on TV for the last couple of weeks with Little Big Planet, which has sold pretty well and that we think we sell much better as the installed base grows. Plus, we’ve had FIFA 13 come out today [Friday, September 28], so there’s two landmark products and as we go into the key season there’ll be plenty of others to come. We’ll see tastier bundles, tastier pricing, tastier software and our commitment to marketing.”

One of Vita’s key strengths has often been highlighted as its power to interface with its bigger, home-console sibling. However, Gara won’t be drawn on how that relationship might be developed as the inevitable transition to PlayStation 4 takes place over the next 12 to 18 months, saying only that, “I think that what we have made sure if is that they do a great job together but that they are independently powerful.”

Whether or not this will be PlayStation 3’s last big Christmas hurrah remains to be seen but as we move into the all-important northern-winter period, Sony looks to be in a celebratory mood with a number of new propositions across its extended product family. It can only hope that they find their way on to Christmas lists across the breadth of Europe and beyond.

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  1. woe

    Im still confused on why they are selling a 12GB system of which the majority of its games library requires mandatory installs.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Gadzooks!

    So… Lies, avoidance, bluffing and blind optimism.

    Endearing.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. vivien

    #3 2 years ago
  4. ps3fanboy

    12gb is totally useless… but a company like sony also have to do something for the cheapskate. nintendon’t and mickey$oft do this all the time… its nothing new.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. OlderGamer

    Sony likes to promise the moon, and will tell you it is a bright and sunny day, even if wearing a raincoat and holding an umbrella.

    And I agree 12GB is pointless. I also think that bundles are almost as pointless. Good bundles sway some gamers. But nothing like an honest straight up lower price would. Entery price point is as important as anything else. But you can’t put out a 12GB system, wait till buyers try and download something, install something, patch something, and the real stregnth of their system is PSN+. Good luck getting anything out of that with 12GBs. They will end up pushing gamers away. Now if they allowed you to attach an extrenal HDD(ala WiiU), that would solve their problem of storage and make a lot of sense.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. lexph3re

    Its fumny, a 4gb xbox was said to be pointless towards the mass populus and low and behold it drastically increased sales and if im correct even you bought a 4gb xbox.

    Ps3S also have always been able to connect a external HDD and house back up data. But seeing how you can purchase a 2.5In sata from 20-100 bucks. This is really not as big as the community wants to make it out to be.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Gadzooks!

    #7

    Big difference mate. One can run games from disc, one can generally not.

    Mandatory installs render the 12gb model worthless apart from for replacements.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Dragon246

    Again similar stupid hating comments from xbots. 12GB serves its purpose, just as the article stated, its NOT for the hardcore audience. Also, most games require install of LESS THAN 8gb, which means it still offers more space than 4gb 360 version.
    @6,
    Really? What about increased sales then? Price cut will happen eventually. It would have been better with a price cut, but 360 isnt receiving a price cut too.
    “Sony likes to promise the moon, and will tell you it is a bright and sunny day, even if wearing a raincoat and holding an umbrella.”
    Examples please. Sounds like something ninty does, announcing games that arent even properly in development yet.
    ” Now if they allowed you to attach an extrenal HDD(ala WiiU), that would solve their problem of storage and make a lot of sense.”
    Lex correctly you.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. lexph3re

    Theres also a big difference in the variant technology from the two. And, like dragon said majority of noteworthy games run 5 gbs and down. The casual gamer plays 1-2 games at a time outside of the devote that plays 4-6 at a time.

    The device isn’t worthless at all. I think its ugly and hate the tray but nothing about it is impractical.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Da Man

    You can install Xbox360 videogames onto external flash memory. I have several Xbla ones on an external one, and run them from there.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. Gadzooks!

    SDF: Defending the undefendable since 2007.

    It’s a paperweight and you both know it.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. OrbitMonkey

    If this was a WiiU article, it’d be Gad defending & Dragon attacking… Probably using near enough the same rhetoric the other is using now :-P

    Attack/defend your toys boys! Your corporate overlords need you!

    #12 2 years ago
  13. lexph3re

    Well thats a logic fallacy. Only thing i did was point out the apparent audience and use for the device. Its actually quit sad to see you on the offensive towards other peoples discussion.

    The simple facts are this 12gb models are as desired and fit the Sony model just as the 4gb models fit the 360 model. There is no argueing that unless you are hailing blind hatred towards a piece of equipment.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. ManuOtaku

    #11 Da Man may i ask how is done?, i didnt realize that was possible and right now iam hiting only 9GB memory left on my 360, i really appreciate your tutory about this, iam not tech savy here, and seen the bunch of great XBLA tittles i want to get, i really need the advice.

    #10 Lex “The casual gamer plays 1-2 games at a time outside of the devote that plays 4-6 at a time.”

    I dont think that notion is neither right or wrong, or worth discussing, because it will need data and investigations, but i do think is not the whole true/picture or that applies to everyone / everybody, sony aiming to the casual should consider the casuals can and should play more games over the years, therefore 12GB even for casuals is not enough because of the mandatory installs, if it wasnt for those installs, i would have agreed that it is sufficient even for casuals, like the 4GB of the 360 and the 8GB for the WiiU, or that those installations can be done on an external device, but this isnt the case here.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Gadzooks!

    #13

    And it would still be you egging on the fight, tossing in a comment here and there to keep it going, but never actually contributing anything of substance. ;)

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Da Man

    ManuO, I just plugged in a Flash drive, formatted it and copied some videogames onto it.

    It’s under the Storage on the rightmost dashboard tab.


    Funny thing is, in threads about teh Blu-ray Sdf state the importance of teh storage. Now they state the opposite basically by insisting that games don’t really need that much. I bet if Sony didn’t go with a blu-ray drive they would be convincing themselves how dvd is totally fine.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Dragon246

    @12,
    “So… Lies, avoidance, bluffing and blind optimism.”
    So this is what being a xbot means.

    @13,
    You read more of my comments. Atleast I dont use stupid and ignorant arguments like him.
    “Probably using near enough the same rhetoric the other is using now”
    At least read my ninty comments before making a blanket statement.

    @Manu
    There are many youtube tutorials on this.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. lexph3re

    I think the numbers are already laid oug for you with needing to pull from sites. Granted the vast majority only play CoD or a Sports game example being Madden 2k’s etc those games only require 3-4 gbs on the hdd and if you out them towards the 12gb after Os you still have 7-6 gbs left over.

    Mandatory install are few and inbetween with recent releases such as Assassins Creed etc.

    In the end you can understand that this is not a problem

    #18 2 years ago
  19. lexph3re

    @Daman storage is without a doubt very important….. To the intense gamers like us. But, seeing how we can construct a logical arguement from this articlee which states itself the device is meant for those who dont care about size and those who just want to upgrade. It becomes moot to use any past discussions that reflected upon personal use.

    This use of SDF is invalid for this topic and should remain seperate. Unless you get someone who chooses to say how great Sony is and how garbage others are. Like psychops3truth

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Gadzooks!

    #19

    You and I both know that is a straight-out lie.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. lexph3re

    No its not a straight-out lie.Seeing how i can personally list a ton of casuals that work off this policy. I can take the average family that owns a 360 alone for just CoD games and nothing else. You could figure that one out too.

    Now, if you take that mold of 360 out and put ps3s there you got the model of people that would want a device like this. And from a business position in which they are reacting to you have a system that feeds towards their desires.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. ManuOtaku

    #18 dragon i barely use my laptop, only for buying games and anime on amazon, thats pretty much sums it up, thats is also why i dont game on PC, and looking in retrospect i mostly surf the web while iam hard at work, i mean hardly working, like right now ;), because i spend my short and my little free time gaming and watching anime/movies, i dont want to waste it surffing the web and whatnot, sorry i prefer the feedback of fellow gamers here on this site, which is my main one by the way, this and MAL of course.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. lexph3re

    And if you need a list of games that are perfectly fine without mandatory install i can list a feew for you.:

    Dead Space
    Dark Souls
    Castlevania los
    God of war all
    Fear2
    Uncharted 3
    Soul calibur 5
    Tekken 6
    Madden 12

    I can keep going, and i guess you might forget about the optional installs too

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Gadzooks!

    #22

    The principle is sound. Of course it is, it was directly copied from MS’ successful, working model.

    The detail of there being so many huge forced installs on PS3 games completely ruins that principle though.

    12gb is simply too small.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. lexph3re

    Riiiighht because MS is the first people to start the model. God forbid anyone else is allowed to exploit a HUGE opportunity at increasing the market and install base.

    This is simply how things need to be to expand gaming. Affordable entry level consoles that open up potential software hikes. Yeah we would never want to see that in the gaming community

    #25 2 years ago
  26. DrDamn

    It’s useful as an replacement machine and for those who have a spare drive or those want a drive bigger than 500Gb. Not so useful for anyone else. I don’t think they are even bothering with it in the US are they?

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Dragon246

    @lex
    Arguing with him is useless. He has never said anything good about ps brand. Just pure hating comments.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. ManuOtaku

    #24Lex I understand that and i agree, there are a lot of games that dont require the mandatory installation, and maybe they are even more than the games that require so, but thats not the issue, the issue is what an X person would pick or want to pick, if he/she has the bad luck to want 3 or 4 games that do require the install, he/she will have a hard time choosing or restraining what he/she will end up picking, which also will hurt the sales of the games on the console too, even more if there is a casual that will plan to play the Sony MMO based on the DC universe (i forgot the name), therefore in my eyes this is not bashing Sony for the sake of it, it is really an strange call on their part IMHO, this based on the nature of their games library.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Dragon246

    @Manu,
    You can always uninstall older ones. I think as stated in the article, its not intended for “hardcore” gamers. Also they price the caddle for less than 10$ so that users that want upgrading hdd should be able to do so cheaply.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Gadzooks!

    #26

    Hahahaaa! Sure, yeah whatever. Sony didn’t just release an Arcade PS3 using a business model unheard of in the console industry until MS did it with PS3′s direct competitor.

    You SDF are the biggest hypocrites around. You should refresh your memory on SDF posts around the original (and fully fit for purpose) Arcade model launch.

    MS’ business model wasn’t so fricken hot back then I can tell ya!

    #30 2 years ago
  31. lexph3re

    Thats very selective though now isn’t it. I could through a catalog of games that would be high on the list for purchase. Lets say the 4 gamee they do buy are MW3 black ops 2 Assassins creed3 and infamous collection. They would still have enough storage to buy a 5 game and delete data (if AC3 requires an install)

    This isn’t an issue you really just have to look past your own standing and consider others.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. ManuOtaku

    #30 Dragon to tell you the truth i do that, i mean unistalling games, because my library is quite big, not to brag about it, but most of the time i really want to revisit a game and then i remember i did unistall it, therefore really i dont like it that much when that happens, is a little bit restrictive IMHO, but well the option is there so that counts for something.

    #32 Lex yes truthly, there is going to be a lot of scenarios, like the rolling of dices with infinite permutations, just stating that it will be people that will be affected by this, as much as people that will not, which is something the manufacturer should need to pondered too, you want to have the best product for all people, not an X quantity of users, specially when you have an specific target for it, thats my point, nothing more nothing less.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. lexph3re

    Arcade model didn’t have ANY memory. Thats not comparable at all to this topic. And your so hell bent on calling others a SDF your not realizing how bad your coming off as a troll/fanboy.

    Not one person here is being a hypocrite outside of yourself though

    #33 2 years ago
  34. Gadzooks!

    Uninstalling/reinstalling would be bearable (barely) if it didn’t take an hour+ in a lot of cases to install and patch.

    Anyway, when the public get hold of this worthless piece of garbage and word gets out that it simply isn’t fit for purpose, Sony will either chuck more memory in it or withdraw it to stem the flood of complaints and bad press.

    12gb, LOL. What were those mongtards smoking!

    #34 2 years ago
  35. Dragon246

    @33,
    Its a bit restrictive, but not overtly so imho.
    @Lex
    He is just a troll, ignore him.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. Gadzooks!

    #34

    The Arcade is not comparable to the 12gb? You are so full of shit I dont even know where to start.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. OrbitMonkey

    @35, That ps3 you said you had, was it powered by hamsters? I can’t remember the last game that had a hour patch, or install…

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Gadzooks!

    #38

    No, it was the same clunky piece of shit the rest of you own.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. Da Man

    Oi, as I said if it was a discussion on disc drives you guys of all people would be here, ‘stating the obvious’ how ‘superior storage’ ‘logically’ leads to ‘superior machines’.

    Keep tricking yourself.

    #39 2 years ago
  40. lexph3re

    Ok something wrong with me but you keep saying a device with 0 memory is compareable to one with actual memory. You know what? Im just gonna pass on you.

    Manu in actual retrospect a company that caters to all needs of the consumer is one that cares for its consumer. The 12gb model isn’t the only model on the market and there are people who want one with a ton of memory and people who want one just to play a few games netflix and watch some DVDs.

    Tbis obviously is being met in this field.

    #40 2 years ago
  41. DrDamn

    @40
    Size of Bluray doesn’t have much to do with usefulness of a 12Gb PS3. Speed of bluray yes, but size no. A 12Gb PS3 should be for people who just want to play from disc and not download stuff. Hence nothing to do with bluray capacity. However bluray seek speed is rubbish, hence some games needing mandatory installs.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. lexph3re

    Lol WHAT!? Lmfao you are a funny guy da man. Completely inconsistent and off of topic and discussion, but a funny guy nonetheless

    #42 2 years ago
  43. Da Man

    Yeah right..

    ‘What I said is simple truth’ . Lack of storage and ‘hardware limitations’ and all that.

    If Sony makes something inferior it’s ‘different’ and ‘aimed at a different audience’. On the other hand, if MS makes that, ‘as a matter of fact’ it’s ‘limitations’ are ‘obvious’.

    Poor hardware configuration is poor.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. Gadzooks!

    #41

    The Arcade actually has 4gb on board. The core model didn’t initially.

    #44 2 years ago
  45. Christopher Jack

    Gadzooks hates Sony, the PS3 & everybody who uses one. /thread
    (seriously, he only leaks hatred on every sony article we’ve had the displeasure of him posting on, just ignore him)

    #45 2 years ago
  46. lexph3re

    I think its been made clear that this business model is ideal across the board. Not just MS not just Sony, but even the up and coming Wii U emplores this model in an effective manner.

    Poor hardware configuration would mean there is zero ability to change the current state its in. Seeing how you can increase the memory format of all the devices there isn’t a failure at all.

    #46 2 years ago
  47. Da Man

    It’s a poor configuration, as pointed out by Gz. A waste of money.

    That it can be of use to someone being content with heavy limitations is another topic.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. Gadzooks!

    #46

    Pointless ego-stroking ‘social commentary’ post master jerks himself off in public yet again.

    The stench of smug is quite unbearable.

    #48 2 years ago
  49. lexph3re

    Right… Thats the most pathetic attempt for a reaction I have ever seen

    #49 2 years ago
  50. Christopher Jack

    See what I mean? No body but trolls or bratty children would say/type anything lile that.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. Da Man

    3ds isn’t inferior graphics wise. It’s aimed at a different audience, who don’t care.

    I can buy a poor computer and later upgrade it, it ‘s still a poor computer at the time of purchase.

    #51 2 years ago
  52. lexph3re

    Your idea of poor is purely personal.

    #52 2 years ago
  53. Christopher Jack

    “3ds isn’t inferior graphics wise”
    “It’s aimed at a different audience” How does something being aimed at a slightly different demographic prevent it from comparing its shortcomings? It’s like saying that a Ford Focus isn’t shit looking next to a Ferrari because they’re aimed at different demographics.

    #53 2 years ago
  54. Da Man

    Exactly, it doesn’t.

    Which is why this model is a poor purchase.

    And it’s not so personal due to ‘the facts’ pointed out by sensible Gz.

    #54 2 years ago
  55. Gadzooks!

    #51

    See, if you were to shut the fuck up, and fuck the fuck off, we wouldnt have to waste several minutes of our lives listening to you say nothing about nothing.

    Now you’ll keep posting, again and again and again, climbing higher and higher on that high horse of yours, as you always do, stroking your ego as you go, emitting smug cloud after smug cloud until we get bored of you.

    *sigh* Noses, other people business, etc..

    #55 2 years ago
  56. Christopher Jack

    @55, Not unless you plan on extending that memory or are unlikely to use up the installed memory. The mandatory installs don’t help & has always been a pet peeve of mine about the PS3.

    #56 2 years ago
  57. Da Man

    Yes it is. Your justifications of it’s shortcomings are purely personal.

    I don’t need Psv graphics for a handheld, 3ds is still inferior graphics wise.

    #57 2 years ago
  58. OrbitMonkey

    Da Man “GZ so sensible”

    GZ “Fuck the fuck off!”

    Lol! A fine double act :-D

    #58 2 years ago
  59. Dragon246

    @Lex and everybody else except haters
    Ignore them . They are a bunch a pathetic fools who think they were born in this world with the intent to spew hate over sony all over.
    Hint- only these people use f-wattage here to prove their stupid arguments.

    @Stace
    On the topic, why its titled “family business”? Didnt see the sense there.

    #59 2 years ago
  60. Cygnar

    I’ve been enjoying my Vita. Uncharted, Wipeout, LBP, Gravity Rush, Mutant Blobs, and the definitive version of Disgaea 3 have made it a pretty decent buy so far. I can’t wait to hear what their plans are for it next.

    And what a wonderful day for our commenting community. It really is a wonder how video games can generate this sheer level of hatred about brand names. There’s enough venom on this page to burn a hole through my monitor.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. Dragon246

    @61,
    I already bought a new screen because of it :P

    #61 2 years ago
  62. monkeygourmet

    The PS3 is not really a good console for the casual.

    The 12 gig model is particularly worthless unless you instantly swap out the HD, kind of rendering the point moot.

    It’s interface is too clunky
    It needs constant updating of firmware and software
    Things like move are not as easy to get calibrated as wii remotes
    The bluray drive is slow as hell

    The front end was originally intended to mimic high end audio / media centres…
    It’s not really casual friendly as much as you’d like to think. So, what’s the point of this new SKU?

    Fun story:

    I just turned mine on today to play a quick game of Motorstorm…

    Updates, updates and more fucking updates.

    Also, these updates are mandatory and slow as hell to download…

    Then once I download, I have to install after?! Why fucking ask me? Just install the god damn patch…

    Man, PSN sucks sometimes…

    #62 2 years ago
  63. DrDamn

    @63
    You don’t swap out the 12Gb. It’s solid state and built in, you just add to it if you want with a HDD.

    Disagree on the interface. It’s uncluttered, easy to use and functional. Very quick and easy to get to your games.

    Agree to an extent on the Move. It focused on precision, which was great for the core but not for the casual. Sports Champions for example has a tonne more depth and variety than Wii Sports, but for the majority Wii Sport is simply more fun to play. I am not looking forward to the wiimote syncing merry go round when I get my WiiU mind.

    #63 2 years ago
  64. Gekidami

    @61
    Indeed. Always the same pathetic children too, speaking in the most infantile way possible.

    “fuck the fuck off” Thats something you’d hear in primary school from a kid who thinks swearing is super cool.

    #64 2 years ago
  65. Gadzooks!

    Aw diddums, did a little bit of colourful language upset your gentle sensibilities?

    You poor things. You poor, fragile things.

    Takes focus away from how pointless the 12gb is quite nicely though, eh? Interesting how that happens.

    #65 2 years ago
  66. Clupula

    @65 – You know what that reminds me of? Ever see any of the Youtube videos of 12 years old on XBox Live, saying things like, “I fucked your mother so hard last night she flew out the window,” which I’m still trying to figure out the logistics of.

    #66 2 years ago
  67. Dragon246

    @67
    :)

    @Monkey
    You never really say anything positive about sony do you?
    I could say the exact things will be a lot worse in wiiu and ninty network.
    Also most of those casuals wont need that much upgrading. I dont even think they would use ps3 to connect to net, like wii.
    And Blu-ray is slow as hell? You really make ignorant comments. Here are facts for you-
    http://asia.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=23916169&user=skektek

    Remember the humble pie at christmas.

    #67 2 years ago
  68. OlderGamer

    Ok, so I can plug in my usb external 1TB HDD into my PS3 and use it to store and play games on? Because that is what I was talking about. That is what WiiU will do. If it does allow you to do that(PS3/external) then I would really apreciate the info. I have a 60GB, BC, Fatty, and being a PSN+ member, I am always out of room.

    #68 2 years ago
  69. lexph3re

    Umm Yeah, I got several friends that do that. Of course that is also the ones that have other OS functional on theirs. It was something that is best done with the fat models.

    Slimmer models (to my knowledge) don’t support it anymore. When I get the info for you I will give it to you.

    #69 2 years ago
  70. OlderGamer

    TY Lex, you can pass that info on to me on PSN or here. And thnx again, while I have a fatty I don’t know how to work the other os stuff. It pretty much needs to be plug and play for my pee brian to grasp it lol.

    #70 2 years ago