Wii U to release on December 7 for €349, according to French retailer

No, that wasent aimed at you. I would never mock your posts, I’m serious.

srs bsns
A contraction of ‘Serious Business’.

It’s main use is mocking, when someone takes the internet too seriously or takes a joke too seriously, people will often remark on how it is “srs bsns”.

I was mocking old man though.

#50 OG i think regardless of the troll comments, he sometimes makes interesting points, that sad thing is those comments are covered with troll conotations or undertones sometimes while he fights with other posters, but i want to see trough that, but like i said he sometimes brings something to the conversation, of course with his particular style.

I think blah blah blah blah industry analysis very little about actual games or how anything is going to be an impact of the actual player level.

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See, I was right!

@50

Prob be able to get 500 for one on eBay at Christmas time.

I could have sold my Wii for 400 when I bought it on launch! extra beer vouchers for Christmas!

They always say they’ll be enough stock, then always delay it to look like its sold out… Then they make a killing in the new year when demand is at fever pitch and all the kids have Xmas money from their grand parents!

“I am not saying that CoD BlopsII will sell more on WiiU then it does on xb360. Even PS3 can’t match xb360 sales. But I think it will sell. And because the porting should be easy to get your product on WiiU, I bet alot of 3rd parties will do just that.”

Its actually more difficult than the PS3. Some developers will not be developing for that system because of its dev kit being harder to understand than PS3 at launch. SO developers and publishers have to worry about working with 3 vastly different architecture while the Xbox 360 is very much like developing for a PC. Its no wonder that developers develop on the 360 first than make it for the Ps3 and now the WiiU or they do it like with what EA is doing with Mass Effect 3 and giving it to a independent studio to port the game instead of wasting internal resources.

Oh, so that’s how it is on the internet these days??

So if I mock someone’s attitude or post that means I troll them. Ok.

Troll is a buzzword now, its entered common parlance with all the wrong connotations.

@47,
“So numbers? Shops will sell out, put it that way…”
If you put it that way, vita also got sold out at many shops . And mem cards too.
@OG,
Will ports help the system sales? Unfortunately ninty has made a “closer” system than sony or ms where most top sellers are first party and 3rd party games usually sell poorly, thus explaining poor 3rd party support.
Hell, even best selling ps3 and 360 games are third party.

Nintendo has a history of not having strong Dev kits, one of the dumb things they do. I doubt it is the system, and more of the kits. That is just a guess tho, I have no clue as I am not a dev and don’t program.

But after reading what a few devs have said on WiiU, I get the impression that some studios love the system while others don’t. Prolly a typical response to new hardware.

€349?

Mkay. I have no words.

#57 Da Man, i did use the word “troll” for the lack of better term,i think you use your style agaisnt people you consider are trolling or has double standars, and while you fight with them your style becomes trolling too, thats all, but i would change the word troll if i knew a better one, maybe baiting instead, i dont know.

@59

Why don’t you like the idea of Wii U by the way?

Is it purely the, ‘there selling me old tech at a new price’ argument?

Because that’s how PC gamers feel about the 360 / PS4 and next gen, still doesn’t make them right though…

Nintendo sell at a profit. They managed to beat 2 higher powered consoles with age old tech because they don’t sell at a loss.

Why does that make you upset when they also brought us Mario Galaxy and Skyward Sword? Jelly much?

Pokemon HD with full online multiplayer, Super Mario World 3D with drop in, drop out multiplayer, Monster Hunter HD with full online support or maybe Zelda with full open world.

Four distinct possibilities which would easily seal the deal for many.

@60

Roughly translated:

“They made us have to think how to use the tablet in a meaningful way. We can’t just do direct ports…”

Boo hoo, use some creativity doosh nozzles…

“Will ports help the system sales? Unfortunately ninty has made a “closer” system than sony or ms where most top sellers are first party and 3rd party games usually sell poorly, thus explaining poor 3rd party support.
Hell, even best selling ps3 and 360 games are third party.”

Nope, I doubt that 3rd party games will shift systems for WiiU. But they will be a nice feather in the cap type of thing.

I think you touched on something interesting Dragon. Nintendo systems are about Nintendos 1st party games. 3rd party games just don’t do that well. I think that is a strength. It is nice to have your own franchises leading sales and moving systems. I think you can look at Sony and see their push of their own 1st party games in an attempt to do the samething.

I think it is a bonus.

Tell me MS wouldn’t enjoy seing Halo out selling CoD?

If you can sell your own hardware for a profit(w/o taking a loss on it), and your own games sell 20, 30, even 40million copies, you don’t need anyone else. That is Nintendo.

It is a good strategy, but it is one that pretty much mutes the 3rd party conversation. The long standing console aproach as we know has been about taking losses on hardware sales, and recouping that back with 3rd party licencing/game sales. But because Nintendo does what they do, they can make it on their own, doing their own thing.

#59 i think is because gamers get nintendo consoles just in order to play nintendo games,this changed with the wii and the all casual thing, but i think those casuals will become avid gamers, in nintendo systems, and on the other two systems too, the irony of some gamers wanting the nintendo doom, when they help them getting new gamers for their consoles too, but well back on topic since the NES and SNES, when third party games were more dominant that nintendo tittles, make the gamers notice nintendo games, but it was the third party that helped cemented the nintendo position those early generations, once that gamers tasted and see the quality of nintendo games, and later on the continuous bad decisions nintendo took in the way they did handle the third party developers back on those days, while they leave nintendo in the process for all that, put the idea of the worthy nintendo tittles on gamers, worthy enough to get the system just for those, IMHO.

Pokemon toys with NFC codes the tablet controller can read…

That’ll just about win next gen for Nintendo on its own…

€349 is outrageous for the system that have specs of the 6-7-8 year old hardware no matter what manufacture it is. Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo or Apple.

WiiU so far is just a cheap PC box with SD tablet that does not have multitouch.

Ok, i get that Nintendo fanboys will buy it for Nintendo games that are not done yet, but what is for me, for the hardcore gamer? I guess nothing really. The only thing that is interesting for me is probably some platinum game and ma-a-aybe Pikmin 3 even if it is a casual game.

I dunno, i just don’t see the value here even from a software standpoint.

and just for the fact, next year Nintendo Wii U will be “8-9-10″ year old in the hardware thing. For the PC crowd it’s probably 13-14 years. Really…

“but what is for me, for the hardcore gamer?”

A PC.

if priced right: 250-350 euro depending on content/ storage. it will drop like a bomb. i have no doubt about it. it´s the videogame dream for every family interested in a console. you´ll have games for your kids, for the whole family, for wife and some that only husband will enjoy. it will sell sell sell.

@OG,
^ Yeah ofc. I get that.

I just dunno for what audience WiiU is. Casual people? Ehh… the price is too high for a toy.

Like I said Erth, the price hasn’t been confirmed yet. And at launch Nintendo could have sold that system for 500usd and it would have sold.

Once it gets reduced to about €250 and has at least six games that I am actively excited for, I’ll definitely get one. Not a moment before though.

@69

Rubbishes Wii U console…

…Places order or Wii U console and 5 games and hardcore pad

We all know you take the piss out of consoles then buy them all anyway…

Can’t take you seriously.

It’s under powered, yes.

Since when did that matter?

In 3 years your phone will be more powerful than the PS4, who gives a shit?

If anything, Nintendo are clever, there’s prob one generation left before gaming is streamed. Why waste money over engineering a console now?

Especially when PCs will still be the best choice for graphics whores

#72 Erthazus just for the fact that you are gaming, it doenst matter the console, PC or handheld you are playing on, for the people that dont do gaming, we all are playing toys, please we need to broke those conceptions ourselfs, if we gamers think like that among ourselves, how can we ask for anything better on the people that doens know anything about gaming, please start giving the example.

As for the price and tech issues you have, we dont know yet the price and the final hardware, therefore we cannot say how it will fare in the future, is not fact just an opinion or a probability, thats all.

@74

Don’t you write for a blog?

Isn’t it your civic duty to get one (or get given one by Nintendo) so you can make informed discussion based on personnal opinion and hands on time?

@75
“We all know you take the piss out of consoles then buy them all anyway…”

So far i have PS3. You kinda failed.

“Since when did that matter?”

It does not matter. You can buy shit for 9000 USD. Your money obv, but i’m talking to people who have brains not to buy every shit they see on the internet.

@78

It’s all relative to how much playtime you get out of it isn’t it?

For example, £40 or a games is a lot, but when you get 200 hours entertainment from it, fallout, Skyrim for example, it’s great value.

Do you see?

Everything new sells at a premium.

Why don’t you sell your Vita?

You paid full price for it but always whine about it? Hardly good value for money!

“For example, £40 or a games is a lot, but when you get 200 hours entertainment from it, fallout, Skyrim for example, it’s great value.”

for me time is not value at all. I played for example 100+ hours in SKYRIM and for me it’s a mediocre experience once i completed every quest out there.

for some people 200+ hours is a value, sure but not for me. I love Uncharted 2:Among Thieves and it’s a 10 hour experience and for me Great game is a Great value no matter what the price it is.

“Why don’t you sell your Vita?”

1) Cause i’m an idiot for buying it at launch to begin with thinking that Sony learned it’s mistakes.
2) No one want’s to buy it LOL
3) After Gamescom i still have hope after TEARAWAY and I hope for the TGS.

but, i don’t regret to be honest for buying it That much. System is powerfull and I paid money for a decent technology That is future proof, I just don’t like what Sony does with the excellent hardware ’cause Excellent hardware is not for forever.

and that´s where i kind of disagree with you erth. i think excellent hardware can be excellent for a long time if the software is right. the ds still has great games coming out. the last one of the newer ones i bought was kirby mass attack. great software on great hardware. that´s why i think we will have a winner here with wiiu again.

@80

Of course, yes playtime and enjoyment have to be together.

I enjoyed both those games, but yeah you kind of answered my question.

If people are going to love the Wii U then the price isn’t really important. Obviously if it was £600, that’s a different story.

But it’s priced accordingly.

Thing is, when have Nintendo released a console even remotely in that price range? We aren’t debating the merits of the system so much as the right price for a console, any console. It doesn’t matter if it wipes your arse after you take a shit, that is not a mainstream selling price and that is not what Nintendo normally does.

@83

There were a few placeholders we’ve seen.

For all we know the 350€ console comes with a game, and hardcore pad and more?

Also Nintendo will be the only one next gen who won’t charge for online, Sony and MS will have to.

I still think it’ll between 250 and 300 for a base package, prob nearer 300 tough.

They can kind of charge more this time because their the only new console around for he next year.

“Also Nintendo will be the only one next gen who won’t charge for online, Sony and MS will have to.”

You have no evidence of SOny “having” to charge for Online. PSN has proven to worth the sub but I can still play online for free. ALso Nintendo has left the online compoent up to the developers and publishers so devs and publisher have to put more money into making an online component for their games which who do you think they will give that price to?

@85

Okay, let’s call it another ‘prediction’ then…

Since its almost 100% sure Sony and MS will prob sell they’re next consoles using some kind of subscription based service, that’s kind of what I’m getting at…

Sony couldn’t charge for online this gen because the PS3 cost an arm and a leg at launch. It wasn’t because they were being ‘nice’ to the consumer! It would have been business suicide…

Yeah here’s our new £550 console, and guess what, we’re going to charge for online too…

That was never going to happen.

And, lo and behold, as soon as the system price dropped, PS Plus appeared.

Next gen, thy will both offer online pricing alongside season passes, mark my words.

Everything will be ubscription based from the evidence I have seen.

MS Sony will go for a full subs cheap entry price service model. At least as an option. Like live and ps+ combined. Monthly fee. but @84 last point is a very good one. High price now, global launch and they’ll sell out to the faithful at least.

So, what exactly does the price of the Vita have to do with anything?

Personally, I think the problem with the Vita is that they aren’t selling it at the same price as the 3DS. It is too expensive. I agree with you on that. When they were equal in price, the Vita was looking to destroy the 3DS, but then Nintendo lowered the price and there was no reason to buy the more expensive handheld. If Sony lowered the price of the Vita to the same the 3DS is selling at it, it’d sell a lot faster.

This is only going to sell to the Nintendo crowd, especially at that ridiculous price. No one is going to buy a Wii U to play games they can already get on PS3 and 360.

And I seriously doubt Sony will ever charge for basic online services. Of course, they’ll add things to sweeten the deal for Plus service, but to just out and out charge to get online. Won’t happen.

“Next gen, thy will both offer online pricing alongside season passes, mark my words.”

Yeah 3rd party on WiiU will be doing the same it doesn’t make it better or worse. Its what it is. The business model works for the publishers and they won’t be letting that go and it will be on the WiiU as well since Nintendo is letting the devs and publishers have free reign with their online stuff.

You are wrong about PSN they didn’t change the model of it because it was free to begin with that was one of it USPs at launch. PS Plus is just a service to give you discounts and free games for 15$ a month like a discount card from retailers. It doesn’t stop me from going in to the store and getting stuff but it does encourage me to buy stuff.

“It´s the videogame dream for every family interested in a console.”

Do Nintendo fans ever speak in anything but hyperbole?

@89

Again, we’ll see next gen!

They will, even if it’s some kind of stealth system like PS plus is.

Better value, but it’s still a subscription.

“stealth system like PS plus is”

Trolololol

They can charge for everything but basic online play/patches and I’ll be happy. As long as I can go on Street Fighter V and play against my cousins without having to pay anything, I’ll be perfectly fine.

Nintendo, on the other hand, everything I am hearing about their online service just screams chaotic mess. It sounds like what the PS3 network was like for the first year or two. Letting developers decide whether or not to put achievements in their games, letting everyone work with their own systems without any uniformity…it’s going to be a mess. Like the Konami code bullshit, but on a much, much larger scale.

Not to mention, still using “friend codes” instead of getting with the rest of the world and just giving people screennames. It sounds like the Hindenburg of online systems.

@90

And wait till Sony move the goal posts with PS Plus for PS4.

I bet it’ll become mandatory for online play just like Gold Xbox Live.

It’s what they do, they’ve suckered people into paying, then they’ll remove features, add a more but charge a greater amount.

Again, just my opinion but well see what happens eh?!

@93

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

And yes, I am aware that’s hyperbole. I’m speaking Nintendo.

But they haven’t suckered people into paying. I look at the people on my PSN and only four of them have PS+. It’s not a popular program and it’s also why I believe FFXIV will flop on PS3, because Playstation gamers are not willing to pay a subscription fee, and Sony knows that.

Do you think they WANT to give free games to people? Of course, not. But they know that they have to sweeten the pot a great deal in order to get us to pay at all. Forcing us to do it outright is just going to fail for them.

@94

Tank, tank, tank already shows online with photos of each player above their vehicle while playing! Sounds fun to me!

“You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig”

That is probably the most ironic thing anyone who says that the Wii U is a dream come true could possibly say.

@98 That sounds annoying actually. I barely tolerate people’s screennames ruining the illusion of a game, nevermind a full picture.

Not that it has a single thing to do with what I said.