Wii U graphics “maybe even better” than 360 and PS3, says Sumo

@51:

@51

If you had to pick the demographic that had the largest number of Mario fans, what would it be?

The argument’s never been that people can’t enjoy Nintendo games, it’s that Nintendo games are made primarly for children. Which they are. Like I said, I enjoy the Zelda series, but I’d never call it mature or adult. Saying it’s more mature or adult than Skyrim is laughable.

Ye can pretend like Gears of War etc aren’t mature games (even by saying they’re immature), but that doesn’t the fact that they’re geared (har har) towards an older target audience.
Like it or not, mature games are violent, swear, have more than a save the princess storyline.

Essentially, people who don’t care about Zelda or Mario don’t care about Nintendo consoles.

To be honest while the comment is a bit absurd (woo we’re probably a bit better than 6 year old hardware), I don’t see why a Nintendo console would ever need anything better than current gen.

Let’s be serious, they will never be the target platform for your gritty GTA, COD or BF type games or gamers for that matter.

Current gen hardware can easily handle the Metroid, Mario, Zelda and Pikmin sequels that are no doubt going to spring up. They’ll also look fabulous because Nintendo generally have great visual style. I daresay some of their games would lose their charm if they started to get too realistic.

I’m on the fence about the Wii-U so far. I might be pushed over if it has BWC with the wii and cube, if not I’m not yet seeing anything that would convince me to replace my current library. I’m not excited about the new pad either, it just seems a gimmick and I have very little space to store things in my house as it is.

@Fin: “If you had to pick the demographic that had the largest number of Mario fans, what would it be?”
i am 100% sure it´ll look something like that: males 22 to 45

@Brenna
chapeau, headline works!

@53, That’s my point.

@54, The problem is Ninty has never really tried to grab that audience, they’ve handed it on a golden plater to Sony, MS & formerly Saga too. Video game consoles are quickly becoming all in one devices, you shouldn’t need to own a WiiU on top of a PS/3/60 just to enjoy both Ninty games & the likes of GTA, Assassins Creed & Battlefield.

@silk good points. But I thought its already clear that it will be BWC to Wii butwont have BWC to GC games …

@55,
Nope, it will not. Something like 7-15 and 30 or 35 above.
Here are the reasons-
1. Ninty games have more appeal to kids eg. pokemon. (7-15 group)
2. People who are nostalgic about ninty games (30 above)
You are in second category. But as you can see, it has both adult and young audiences. Although most of the new gamers mario games get are kids like pokemon.

@Gadzooks!
“Mario games are aimed at Mario game fans. Age is irrelevant.”

You still have to have a target audience in order to expand your Mario game fan base though. Visual/Artistic style is a huge part of target audience. Again target audience does not mean the only audience who can appreciate and enjoy the games, but where you aim with those will be used to categorise the games by others.

#59

Provide ANY evidence to back up your preposterous claim.

You won’t, of course. Because you can’t.

Fear can cause people to make rediculous statements. You must be VERY afraid of Nintendo.

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This thread reminds me of my family holidays as a young ‘un. My younger brother would cry and scream when he was given a childs meal when we ate out.

He didnt complain at all when his childs portion of dino-bites was served on an adult sized plate.

Yes, we are very afraid of Nintendo. You got us. I lay awake at night, terrified that Lance Henriksen is going to summon Reggie Fils-Aime to get revenge for that accident with his son.

My god, with how defensive you guys get that over the fact that certain franchises are aimed at children, how can I think of you guys as anything but creepy middle-aged men in cum-stained Tingle outfits? You’re like that “It’s still real to me, dammit!” guy who started crying when a conversation when the behind-the-scenes aspects of professional wrestling were discussed at some convention or the other (look it up on Youtube). Just face the facts, you like kid’s games. It wouldn’t be creepy if not for how defensive you all get about it. Like accepting the fact would make you have to accept your boy love or something.

I’ve already said that adults can enjoy them, but the target demographic is children. Plain. Simple. True.

@54: wii bc but not gc has been confirmed. i want infos if i can play games like dkcr or the wii kirby games on the tablet alone. that would be awesome. the tablet will also be great for the VC games.
@59. we both don´t have proof about that numbers…i think i am more close to the reality here, you think you are.
@57:if wiiu will gain third party support -and it looks like that, i personally see the need for owning ps360´s fading. but that could just be me.
i am with #54 though, i don´t think more horsepower is needed for nintendo games, sure i cannot wait for hd mario and zelda, but for the most part the wii was absoluteley enough.
third party is the key here. i also think that most third party games will look just as good on the wiiu as on ps360´s. even with the launch of the next ms and sony machines i don´t think that the wiiu ports will look much worse than on the nextbox ps4´s for a few years…then there could be another nintendo console after 5 years, with a nintendo online service that works well…could very well become a perfectly timed coup, since nintendos decission to not buy into hd current gen really paid out in the end or did i t not?

“@57:if wiiu will gain third party support -and it looks like that, i personally see the need for owning ps360´s fading. but that could just be me.”

Of course, it’s just you. You’re creepy like that.

@62: man, if someone is creepy here it´s you pretending gears or halo isn´t as immature as mario.
i am not defensive just to be defensive, again you are painting a picture of me being ignorant, while you post stuff like: all nintendo games are kids games, generalising stuff like, well a kid. this stuff is just not true and every time you´ll post that trash and i´ll read it by default, i´ll tell you again.

…and again

#62

Wow! You must have testosterone literally dripping from your hairy muscular MAN-BODY!

Your not-at-all-subtly-vieled paedophilia insinuation sure was in poor taste though.

CoD, Halo and other such games are extermly popultaed with teens and preteens. No one is beating a war drum about their ages or your maturity because of ascoiciation when playing the same games. No one is saying in every thread that Acti or MS are targeting younger, even underage audiances with their marketing campaign, and they are btw.

So why do people feel the need to claim that Nintendo games are for kids. That is one of the craziest things I see on this forum, and on game sites in general. It is like the kettle and pot and whatnot, throwing stones whilst living in a glass house.

And for what? Your toy is cooler then someone elses? Really, grown adults arguing over the net over the maturity and validity of a toy?

Kind of silly folks.

@68, I’m just claiming that a kids game is a game you’d let you <10yo kids play, Mario is, CoD isn't- it's that simple, really. If you do let your kids play CoD, I ain't judging- so long as you don't just plop them in front of the tv without any context. Guns are bad, M'kay. I was playing, Medal of Honor & Dino Crisis at 7 years old & I turned out fine.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Halo_86e066_524139.jpg

I think the rating is a very clear view of the main target audience for a game, an everyone game is very different for a kids only game, and pretty much all the core nintendo games are torwards everyone rahter than kids only, therefore saying is for kids, is a pretty narrow view.

Nintendo games are a bit like Pixar studio movies. They can appeal to multi age brackets. But just like Acti doesn’t just do CoD, Nintendo doesn’t have just one franchise. Not really fair to lump them all together.

Just because kids do play some Nintendo games doesn’t make them kids games, anymore then a tweenies playing CoD make it a kids franchise.

@72
Exactly.

@67 – I wasn’t aware it was thinly veiled. I do many things well. Subtly is not one of them.

#74

Take that shit elsewhere. Its not wanted here.