Mon, Aug 06, 2012 | 09:05 BST

Game violence to blame for rise in knife attacks, says police commissioner

Games have been publicly slammed by a police commissioner in Australia for inciting a rise in knife crime, because they let children act out ‘virtual crimes’ and earn incentives for violent acts in-game.

Speaking with the Telegraph Australia, New South Wales Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione stated, “How can it not affect you if you’re a young adolescent growing up in an era where to be violent is almost praiseworthy, where you engage in virtual crime on a daily basis and many of these young people (do) for hours and hours on end.”

Scipione’s statement comes a week after PEGI became official law in the UK, giving parent’s clear guidelines on which games are safe for children to digest.

“You get rewarded for killing people, raping women, stealing money from prostitutes, driving cars crashing and killing people,” Scipione added.

“That’s not going to affect the vast majority,” Scipione continued, “but it’s only got to affect one or two and what have you got? You’ve got some potentially really disturbed young person out there who’s got access to weapons like knives or is good with the fist, can go out there and almost live that life now in the streets of modern Australia. That’s concerning.”

What do you think of the above statements? Is game violence an old issue that should be put to bed, or is it still relevant today?

32 comments

#1

Telepathic.Geometry
06/08/12, 8:45 am

What a stupid bastard. What’s his solution, ban games? How about he and the other police enforce the fucking age restrictions on those products instead of complaining about their existence. Isn’t that part of their job anyway? Or is that some other law enforcement group, like some body governing business practices or something?

#2

Yoshi
06/08/12, 8:45 am

“You get rewarded for killing people, raping women, stealing money from prostitutes, driving cars crashing and killing people”

The only games that do this are 18′s so if parents aren’t dumb shits you can sleep at time.

#3

dex3108
06/08/12, 8:46 am

So less then 1% of gamers could be affected and because of that games should not be violent?

#4

almostnot
06/08/12, 9:07 am

Sometimes I think that the potatoes are telling to kill. I AM THE 1%

BAN POTATOES!

#5

gaz
06/08/12, 9:22 am

I am unaware of any legally available game at retail that rewards rape. This man is ill informed and sounds to me like he’s panicking about rising crime statistics.

#6

Fin
06/08/12, 9:22 am

in b4 gamer rage

Too late :(

#7

HauntaVirus
06/08/12, 9:29 am

Ban all violent movies first…

#8

Mineral4r7s
06/08/12, 9:33 am

Blaming games for rise of violence? History really repeats it self. Back then it was the witch hunt, nowadays its once again the game hunt. The reason why violence raises is because poverty explodes all over the world. But they dont want to hear the reasons, they dont want to know, they just want to blame something. sick people…

#9

viralshag
06/08/12, 10:04 am

In Australia? Aren’t video games ridiculously censored and sometimes banned there? Really, if he is blaming games, with their tight classification and all, that just makes me think their system is clearly flawed.

To be honest if you read the source article, it sounds like video games are the least of their problems.

#10

Gheritt White
06/08/12, 10:34 am

Seriously, Australia has plenty of its own unique social own problems that it should look towards fixing before starting to blame interactive media.

#11

Christopher Jack
06/08/12, 10:47 am

The problem is the amount of sociopaths in today’s society. It’s terrifying how many people grow up with out any basic morals, how they can threaten or even take another person’s life & think it’s hilarious or awesome. I think the parents tend to be the root issue, I knew someone who neglected their children & they drowned a litter of kittens. Now I know some children are uncontrollable not matter how the parent is, but I reckon most these problems can be stamped out during childhood.

#12

drewbles82
06/08/12, 11:27 am

Ban most movies then, ban most stuff you see on tv as well, ban a lot of sports cuz you get idiots who cause violence. Shield your kids in a room and never let them do anything ever again till they are 18.
No single men allowed in parks anymore you maybe a pedo.
Ban dogs, they bark, its a sign of violence.
Ban sex.
Ban being happy and smiling.

Why not just fine the hell out of parents for letting their kids play under 18 games, that might scare them, esp since no one can afford it.

#13

friendlydave
06/08/12, 11:33 am

@12 “No single men allowed in parks anymore you maybe a pedo”

Right I took my little sister to the park (8 years old) and sat on the bench while she played, and I got the most evil looks and one parent even approached me to ask who I was, what I was doing and to prove that I was really there with my younger sister, it’s ridiculous.

But back to topic, Articles like this annoy me, If a kid was truly going to do bad things they would do it regardless of what media they are surrounded by.

#14

MidlifeAxe
06/08/12, 11:43 am

@13 That’s atrocious. I hope you gave the parent approaching you a piece of your mind.

#15

friendlydave
06/08/12, 11:46 am

@14 Sadly as much as I wanted to, I did not, If I done that it would probably of only gotten worse.

#16

Beta
06/08/12, 11:48 am

A whole medium swept aside by one man who’s probably read about GTA in a tabloid.

Get back to work and solve some real crime, instead of sounding a narrow minded moron.

#18

MidlifeAxe
06/08/12, 12:57 pm

How many times has this topic came up and how many times have professionals replied (with evidence) stating the two are not linked? When will they shut up and accept that they might just be doing a poor job of enforcing the rules and that’s the reason for the increase.

#19

Puggy
06/08/12, 1:46 pm

Hm, with all due respect to the comments here, let us not be as judgemental as the people we are complaining here.

We do not know how it was said and what the circumstances were. Maybe a friends child recently got hurt in a knife fight or he had a generally bad day and was acting a bit emotional. Most people have to vent at times and we all are not too proud about it afterward, at least most are I would assume.

So lets cut him some slack. We all get angry and leash out at others at times, that’s okay.

So yeah it is an old topic, it was talked over so many times it really got old. But still it is common human behaviour. We need to blame bad things on other things. If the crop does not grow it has nothing to do with the missing fertilizer or that I did not water it, the Devil is to blame.
If the database of some game goes down the river Styx it was not the fault of the company for not making backups, it were hackers. If some troubled kid goes out and shoots/stabs some people, it was not the fault of parents, weapons dealer or similar, it were videogames.

Yes, blaming something bad on something gives people the illusion of control (even if they have to blame it on themself). It is better then admitting not having a clue why it happened. Makes them feel powerless and all.

And for the record, some videogames, do help you to learn how to properly hurt others. Not very efficiency or elegantly, but most Melee moves in videogames nowadays are borrowed from military grade melee techniques (most people in videogames being super elite ex soldiers/elite force anyway so it does make sense), so most of the time it should work in real life.
Does not mean it makes you want to go hurt others. Just saying you do get some hints from games if you know how to look and how to translate it into reality.

#20

Mineral4r7s
06/08/12, 1:54 pm

@ 19 You also get lots of hints from books its just that kids dont read anymore.

#21

OrbitMonkey
06/08/12, 2:03 pm

Ban knives and let them try killing with a spork!!

#22

tmac2011
06/08/12, 2:52 pm

police officers are idiots anyways, oh yeah everytime i play GTA it mqakes me want to do the same thing as on a game LMAO someone fire him please

#23

drewbles82
06/08/12, 3:42 pm

@13, dude sorry to hear that. It was on the Wright stuff, last year where a new law was being discussed to ban single men from parks. Stupidest thing I ever heard, they were all against the idea, had calls from guys saying how on a Summers day, go and have lunch or walk.

#24

Dragon246
06/08/12, 4:28 pm

Here is another fact for this policeman , porn is the cause for all violence against women especially rape. Now does he want to ban the thing he watches the most on youtube?

#25

Freek
06/08/12, 5:58 pm

So where are all these super tough guy harcore criminal gamers?

Wait I found a pic of these criminal super villains:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/26/penny.arcade.jpg

Christ man, get those guys in jail before they start murdering people!

#26

Talkar
06/08/12, 6:03 pm

Please, if video games had any such kind of influence i would constantly try to force choke someone to death instead of using a puny knife!

#27

ManuOtaku
06/08/12, 7:06 pm

The sad thing is this will happen time and time again, is sad, and like previous commenter mentioned violence in our time and society is a reflection of multiple issues, games being the leastest.

But what you can expect if even in the recent Shooting in the Batman Movie premier, the media also put the fault on the movie Batman as one of the reasons for the shooting, dishonest and uninforme people is everywhere, and affects anything in life, especially or time consuming hobbies.

#28

burrsalem
06/08/12, 8:01 pm

It’s amazing how much the non gaming community laser-focuses on GTA type games as indicative of the entire industry. What’s this game where you’re rewarded for (or even have the option of) raping women? I understand it’s a generational thing to some degree, but a huge chunk of that is bias. And it’s harmful. To everyone, gamer and non-gamer alike. Also, these games are rated. Kids aren’t supposed to be playing those games.

#29

Dansolo
06/08/12, 11:34 pm

Crime has been going down steadily for years in Canada. I blame video games. Thanks Video games, you’re the best!

#30

silkvg247
06/08/12, 11:51 pm

If somebody is a rapist, they’ll rape. If somebody has urges to murder, they’ll probably attempt murder.

Games don’t turn people into something that they never were to begin with.

It’s time for the finger pointing at games to stop, it just makes the person doing the pointing look like they’re missing a braincell or two.

#31

DSB
07/08/12, 12:13 am

@30 We should really start a petition to blow that comment up by about 500% and plaster it on a wall somewhere close to parliament.

I don’t think you become a rapist until you actually rape someone, I mean strictly speaking.

You’re probably more of a deviant before you do something like that. At least in the real sense of the word.

#32

TD_Monstrous69
07/08/12, 2:20 am

This perpetutated fallesy isn’t even worth all the comments it has gotten here.

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