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Blizzard jumps on Windows 8 “catastrophe” bandwagon

Friday, 27th July 2012 12:42 GMT By Patrick Garratt

Blizzard’s Rob Pardo’s echoed negative comments from Valve’s Gabe Newell in relation to Windows 8, saying the upgrade will be less than “awesome” for the PC game-maker.

Said Pardo in a tweet: “Nice interview with Gabe Newell – ‘I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space’ – not awesome for Blizzard either.”

Newell said at this week’s Casual Connect conference that Windows 8, which releases on October 26, will be a disaster for everyone currently involved in the PC market.

Windows 8 features touch and tablet features, as well as seeking to cater for the current desktop audience. Newell, especially, is backing Linux as an alternative to the new version of Windows as Microsoft is apparently seeking to “close” the platform.

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43 Comments

  1. Edo

    Kill it with fire!Or…just..don’t use it…whatever :D .

    #1 2 years ago
  2. DSB

    Because Blizzard are all about opening their games up… Right?

    #2 2 years ago
  3. MidlifeAxe

    Haven’t really taken a look at Windows 8 but I heard that is was just a different UI and is pretty much the same as 7 with some fancy speed upgrades? If that’s the case then it can’t be much of a “catastrophe” – correct me if I’m wrong.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. G1GAHURTZ

    It’s not Looking like a ‘catastrophe’ for the consumer. Put it that way…

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Maximum Payne

    @3 Pretty much.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. DSB

    I don’t know about that G1GA.

    They aren’t talking about a catastrophe as a certainty, they’re talking about a catastrophe based on what Microsoft are likely to do with Windows 8. It could be paranoia, but then I generally think there’s reason to be paranoid with business the way it is these days.

    They’re introducing their own storefront as a basic component, which obviously isn’t a terrible thing. At least to me, Microsoft seem totally incapable of providing a service that’s anything like what a leading retailer provides.

    Whether it’s poor design, their unwillingness to build their software around the user, or just providing people with a good deal, I don’t see Microsoft as anywhere close to competing with any other major retailer out there.

    But that’s pretty much the problem, isn’t it? EA have the exact same problem with Origin. They haven’t been able to create a service that can actually stand up to the competition, and their response to that has been to cut out that competition, so they can get that 100% margin anyway.

    So the question here is… What’s going to stop Microsoft from doing the same with Windows 8?

    Their conscience? Basic ethics? Belief in the free market? Common sense? I don’t think they give a shit about any of those things.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Hirmetrium

    The fact that Gabe’s comments were not specific enough is causing everyone to go crazy speculating on what exactly he means.

    It’s already been noted that the way Windows 8 is designed is crap for most developers.

    As far as consumers care, its a facelift. And more driver problems.

    I don’t see why the storefront is a problem when Mac’s have been using it for months. Gabe hasn’t been complaining about the App Store, has he?

    I doubt MS will forcefully close the system. That will pretty much destroy their market control.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. DSB

    I think people expect different things from Apple and Microsoft. Apple has always been a dictatorship, where Microsoft has at least been somewhat agreeable in letting people do whatever they want on the platform.

    It’s the regression that scares these guys.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. gnsks

    Hirmetrium, Gabe worries about what Microsoft might do because 95% of their customers are on Windows. Only 5% of the Steam userbase are using OS X, according to their own statistics (Valve survey)

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Da Man

    Apple are so nazi like, Safari is open source, and the shitty Steam is still available alongside their store. They also happen to use OpenGL . Surely e-freedom fighters should be able to read all that while spending every day of their life in the blog comment sections?

    Where do people learn to say so little with so many words?

    #10 2 years ago
  11. Kabby

    Safari isn’t open source.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Da Man

    I meant webkit, or whatever that thing is called. I didn’t get that from throughfully reading Wikipedia, you see.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. GrimRita

    Im safe. I wont be getting Windows 8. Havent tried it but its an ‘inbetween’ version. They did their best to destroy PC gaming with Vista *shudders* so there is a chance Win8 will be a pain in the arse.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Phoenixblight

    I like how these guys are being as vague as possible about why WIndows 8 is a catastrophe. I guess its just a form of fear mongering. As I said in another thread it doesn’t have any effect for the consumer, its a face lift with faster booting. The only thing that is new is the market. Maybe if they were more open and say what about windows 8 is a catastrophe and I would be more reluctant to get it but vague statements aren’t enough and I still plan on getting it at least for one of the computers.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Hirmetrium

    Well, the PC will never be closed (it will cause windows to drop like a stone) and the EU anti-trust laws will kick in long before the store is bundled with windows 8.

    If Valve weren’t American, they would have nothing to fear.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Gadzooks!

    What, like antitrust laws prevent google play on droid and app store on iOS?

    #16 2 years ago
  17. TheWulf

    This is preeeetty much all about UEFI. A lot of people have been getting their knickers in a twist over that, though I can’t exactly blame them.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. GwynbleiddiuM

    Well, imagine this, every software you buy is directly obtained from apple store (itunes and whatnot) imagine Xbox Live Market place on xbox 360, everything has to go through there and be exactly as what Microsoft and Apple would approve in order for that product to get to consumers. This might seem acceptable for tablets, consoles, cellphones, but on PC it’s just unacceptable. I think the world is moving toward elimination of the Personal Computer, soon there’ll be nothing personal about the devices you own, everything should be according to what the owner of platform wants to improve sales figures and profit.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Phoenixblight

    @18

    Thats not whats happening though you will still be able to get your software from other sources just like Apple.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Da Man

    Anyone can download Mac or iOS sdk, and put pretty much anything there, as long as it isn’t some vulgar or racist content in contrast to Sony Posn. And there’s the Steam available to every single Mac user.

    There’s as well freely available Xna and the indie marketplace, in contrast to Nintendo or Posn.

    It’s unbelievable how whether you can or can’t get some allegedly creative toy directly from OS marketplace decides whether your machine is ‘personal’ or not. *headdesk* I don’t know if it’s some unwitty paranoia or just people being dense. Videogames aren’t the centre of the universe.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. DSB

    “anyone can… put pretty much anything there, as long as it isn’t [something that offends the Dear Leader]”

    There’s your problem.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Da Man

    It’s not my problem, because e-freedom fighters for the sake of e-freedom fighting is depressing.

    But hey.

    I really hope you don’t’ think censorship has anything to do with offending corp execs.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. OrbitMonkey

    For all the hand wringing doom mongers, theirs a few hackers rubbing theirs in glee at the thought of jailbreaking any possible future *restrictions*

    Imagined or actual.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. DSB

    That’s terribly offensive. I’m sure all the e-freedom fighters are crying their hearts out.

    I don’t really care who it’s offending, or what their justification might be. The end result is the same, a subjective review based on marginal values.

    Forcing your norms onto other people isn’t worthy of anyone in a position of leadership. It’s typically been one of the hallmarks of a very small person.

    If you aren’t smart, confident or motivated enough, just compensate with brute force. Apparently that can be said for a lot of major businesses and their executives these days.

    Someone’s inability to accept and work with the world around them never justified putting the blinders on everybody else. It’s just a pathetic attempt to put the minority above the majority.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Da Man

    Thank you for proving my point.

    You have issues. And you aren’t helping our society by criticizing a corporation which censors content people put on their store. They developed the handset, the OS, the sdk, the tools, the store, the rating system, and everything the likes of yourself entertain themselves with.

    Should developers consult your shitty, opinionated soulless pseudo intelligent attitude when making something? I don’t think so.

    You rebellious spirit. You liberal customer.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. DSB

    And I’m the one with issues :P

    I don’t believe you’ve ever argued anything on merit here. The moment you, or your apparent loyalties are challenged, you resort to petty namecalling. Is it really that difficult for you to make your point?

    It’s obviously your choice, and unlike Apple I don’t have a need to censor everything I don’t personally approve of, but let’s not kid ourselves that you actually something to contribute here, except for that sadly bitter bile of yours.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Kabby

    On the internet, no one can hear you scream.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. OrbitMonkey

    Ooh DSB & Da Man are fighting!! (I feel like mouse out of the matrix now)

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Da Man

    Erm.. I’m not the one paraphrasing blogs and posting criticism of a mobile entertainment store.

    Why would a person continuously go on about censorship and freedom on a videogames blog? Issues, obv. Perhaps you’re just overdoing it while aiming for a peaceful chat.

    I contributed some common sense, guy. Apple aren’t preventing Nabokov from putting his book for everyone to read. You? An echo of internet e-freedom rebels.

    My choices have nothing to do with iPhone videogames.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. OlderGamer

    “The moment you, or your apparent loyalties are challenged, you resort to petty namecalling.”

    I have to agree with DSB on that one.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. Da Man

    Well, I’ll take the namecalling over inane rants and hyperboles any day of the week.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. Kalain

    “Apple aren’t preventing Nabokov from putting his book for everyone to read” – Actually, if you used Apples own authoring software, you can only publish it on the iBook store and lose all rights to future publishing rights.

    So if the person you mentioned did use Apple’s own software, then Apple are stopping him from putting his book out for everyone and anyone to read.

    Just thought I’d put that in here since it’s part of the current thread :)

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Ireland Michael

    @30 Why are you two even wasting your breath on him? You both know how it is.

    #33 2 years ago
  34. G1GAHURTZ

    Oh?

    Interesting…

    #34 2 years ago
  35. Da Man

    #32, that’s a good one :)

    Problem with O’Connor and Co. is that you folks think all opinions are equally valid by default. Also have quite a twisted view on progress and freedom of speech. As I said though, but hey.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. Kalain

    #35 http://9to5mac.com/2012/01/19/ibooks-author-end-user-license-agreement-sparks-controversy/

    Although this is old, it may have changed…

    Also, I thought that all opinions are valid because they are opinions? That’s the beauty of an opinion, it is always different and always valid.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Ireland Michael

    @36 “Also, I thought that all opinions are valid because they are opinions? That’s the beauty of an opinion, it is always different and always valid.”

    Yes, but that would be a logical way of viewing things.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Da Man

    Not O’Connor’s kind of ‘opinions’.

    Whether someone agrees with this or not, sometimes people state what’s known as ‘bullshit’. No matter how you put it.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. DSB

    I can’t begin to guess why you need to do what you do Da Man, but I’m not interested in contributing to even more of your childish antics.

    @33 Actually I’m pretty clear on the fact that I don’t want to cause yet another 50+ thread starring Da Man versus everyone desperate enough to keep him going :P

    @36 Yessir. Some might even argue that a difference in opinion generally tends to make you smarter and more informed.

    “If you’re stupid, surround yourself with smart people. If you’re smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you.”

    I always liked that one. Even if it is fucking annoying that everybody fails to think exactly like I do most of the time.

    #39 2 years ago
  40. Da Man

    I hear ya. Please do carry on ‘contributing’.

    Contributing to a pointless discussion of something that ‘s not going to happen, ‘discussing’ imaginary outcomes. Fighting for freedom of putting porn on the App store.

    In my opinion Half Life is more artistic than Faust. Deal with it.

    #40 2 years ago
  41. DSB

    We can’t all be geniuses like you, you know. Shame that.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. Da Man

    Indeed.

    You might try and exercise some common sense though.

    #42 2 years ago
  43. Da Man

    Also, due to a lack of PMs I ‘ll post it there, since we’re into srs bsns and quotations, in regards to Dsb and pretty much everything he stands for, I happen to recall a good quote, which encompasses the likes of Google perfectly.. to paraphrase it, when these wonderful companies choose to be or not to be, they choose to be at any price.. A well worded saying xoxo Just my humble opinion.

    #43 2 years ago

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