John Carmack predicts a long future for next gen consoles

Thursday, 7th June 2012 01:04 GMT By Matt Williams

Despite growing competition from the likes cloud and PC gaming, Id co-founder John Carmack believes that dedicated consoles will still remain very much part of the industry.

“I hesitate to predict anything five, six years into the future, but the next generation should last a long time,” Carmack stated at E3 this week.

“Console gaming might morph,” he further explained. “You can certainly see cloud gaming being built into every display device and traditional consoles could become more like the audiophile niche of people who want the extreme experience there.”

Carmack has been at the expo to promote his own Head-Mounted Display, which has been running off an adapted version of DOOM 3: BFG Edition for PC. Despite the decision to showcase the motion-tracking technology on the PC version of the game, Carmack said that console gaming offered many benefits over PC development.

“In many ways this would have been easier to do on consoles,” he explains, “but unfortunately you can’t just plug a USB device into a console and have it work; you have to have it certified and go through a whole process. And that’s a little bit of a shame because even though the PC is ten times more powerful sometimes getting something done at the exact right point is easier on the consoles – it’s a place where you know what scanline you’re on at any point, and so on.”

Thanks, CVG.



  1. stealth

    hes smarter than he looks

    #1 3 years ago
  2. Yoshi

    As long as there’s exclusives, there’ll be consoles.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. mortiferus

    John make a proper next gen Doom. Sorry bro, but Rage was not that great, surrender the wasteland to Bethesda.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. TheWulf

    Id is a technology company, and not a very good one next to Epic, even. I think that their days are numbered, and Carmack is trying to throw his lot in somewhere, just to try and find a niche before it’s too late.

    They stopped being a game developer long ago. Rage was a shallow, squalid, poor excuse for a… well, I wouldn’t even call it a game. Terrible thing. In fact, what was the last enjoyable game Id made? Quake III? That was a very long time ago, as game development goes.

    So, yeah. Right now they’re a technology company, and they’re losing that battle to Epic.

    (A lot of the problem is that–for some reason–Carmack simply has to be unorthodox simply for the sake of being unorthodox. This is why Rage wasn’t modifiable, and was plagued with issues relating to the incredibly buggy and messy megatextures tech. Whereas Epic has been far more pragmatic and sensible.)

    #4 3 years ago
  5. Anders

    @4: id hasn’t been a tech company in the same sense as Epic since id Tech 3 (Quake III). id Tech 4 has only been used by companies closely related to id Software, and only on a handful of smaller titles.

    With that said, the deal with ZeniMax in 2009 is probably a pretty good indication that id hasn’t been doing that well economically the last few years. I don’t think that Doom IV will change that either. They might do well if they hit the launch window of Xbox 720 and/or PS4, but I doubt that it will be ready for release that soon.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. fearmonkey

    Rage wasn’t awesome, but it certainly wasn’t that terrible wulf. i enjoyed it until the third town, then it became a crappy game, it felt like the hurried up and ended it.

    It was a tech demo for what they are going to do with Doom 4, I wonder if they are going to release it for the 360 or just wait till the next gen and make it a launch title.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. xxJPRACERxx

    I really liked RAGE. The gunplay felt really solid and satisfying (on PC at least). Some of the gfx were jaw-dropping.

    #7 3 years ago
  8. blackdreamhunk

    John Carmack and id software are has beens in the gaming Industry and by the way I can still buy game for my pc. Nothing beats the pc and I don’t see a future for consoles!

    E3 2012 – Console Gaming is Almost Dead to Me

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Cobra951

    Someone with a brain speaks. How refreshing.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. hookurs

    @ #8 haahahahahha wut?

    #10 3 years ago
  11. ManuOtaku

    Rage was a good game with great graphics, not a great game but good nontheless,the gameplay was solid, they have yet to release a tittle that is consider terrible, i played on the 360 by the way, therefore for me they are still good developers, i hope we will be getting doom 4 and the next quake(i lost count which was the last), and maybe a better rage 2, were they fix the bad things this game had, and then it will really shine, i hope they hafe the opportunity to do so.

    #11 3 years ago

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