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Guild Wars 2 beta event detailed – no NDA, Lion’s Arch open

Friday, 20th April 2012 04:19 GMT By Brenna Hillier

ArenaNet won’t muffle the cries of “pure awesomesauce” expected to arise from next weekend’s Guild Wars 2 beta event.

Being a public beta, you’re free to share your experiences by whatever means you wish; there’s no NDA on anything.

Testers can create charr, humans, or norn, will have access to all eight professions, and can roll multiple characters.

World vs World multiplayer will be available on four maps, in addition to several small group PvP areas, and the city of Lion’s Arch will be playable for the first time.

The developer notes that entry to the beta is guaranteed for those who have pre-purchased – but not the million or so registered testers waiting in line.

The Guild Wars 2 beta event kicks off on April 27. Full launch is expected later this year.

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  1. TheWulf

    Looking forward to this so much… I’ve been doing so for half a decade.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. endgame

    Me too. Too bad it’s a whooping $67.45 even on gmg.com. :(

    #2 2 years ago
  3. viralshag

    @2, Agreed. If they had a release date and a little lower price tag, I would have probably pre-ordered the standard edition already. Already got burnt by those tactics on TOR at the end of last year with a high pre-order price and no release date.

    This will probably be the first time I buy a standard edition of an MMO but their in-game bonuses are really quite shitty and certainly not worth an additional £15 on top of the already high £50.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. GrimRita

    What is going on with these stupid prices lately? GW2, I can kind of understand as its free to play. But customers are being asked to use their bandwith(digital versions) so surely the cost should be lower?

    #4 2 years ago
  5. NeoSquall

    “but not the million or so registered testers waiting in line”
    lol, that’s just a scam…

    @3 at least you didn’t have to pre-purchase the game at FULL PRICE to gain a spot in the beta.

    Really, even the lifetime subscriptions of certain MMOs like Champions Online, Lord of the Rings Online and Star Trek Online where more ethical than GW2 pre-purchase program.

    “Why?” you may ask, and I’d simply answer “because 1. you didn’t have to pay before the game release and 2. at least you KNEW the release date when they opened the pre-ORDER program”.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. viralshag

    @5, What I find funny is that only the other day people were on here, I think it was OG, talking about the drug-selling mentality of pay2play mobile games and I think the golden-carrot dangling in terms of a guaranteed beta entry is just as bad tbh because there are plenty of people out there that will pre-order at whatever price they shove it out at just to play some of the game early.

    I signed up for the beta ages ago, the pre-orders are already sold, if I was given a beta key to try out the game I would probably decide right away if I would get it or not.

    And before anyone says anything about it being a beta test and not a demo… I think that ship sailed long ago. Beta’s these days are more a marketing tool than anything.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. NeoSquall

    @6 A beta with no NDA is not a beta, it’s just a bad masked demo.

    I am one of the million people that registered for the beta and I concur that giving us a spot inside would be a better publicity than a thousand of nerdgasming previews; I know it because I only got SWTOR (aside from the game value) after getting in the beta with a preorder box purchased in a whim, for 5 euros.

    FIVE EUROS Arena Net, not 60-150 Euros, FIVE.

    And you know what, Arena Net, I even purchased the Collector’s Edition, for 150 Euros ON RELEASE DAY, and I assure you the Darth Malgus statuette is 1000x better than your Charr.

    If a company asks its customers to pay full price in advance for a product, giving only the golden-carrot of the guaranteed spot in the beta and some ingame swag as a reward, I read it as a “WE ARE OUT OF MONEY. PAY US NOW IF YOU WANT THE GAME THEN.”

    You don’t look good when you ask people to pay in advance for something you don’t know when it’s out, unless it’s a Kickstarter fundraising.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. viralshag

    @7, I agree, I’m also signed up and honestly if I could play in a non-NDE beta, or a demo if you will, at this stage it would very much determine whether or not they got my money now.

    I really don’t like the pre-order beta guarantees, I generally think you should keep it open to any and all that have signed up and give pre-orders a decent early entry.

    Right now, you get a few guaranteed betas, which could be one or ten, and three day early access which is the same no matter what edition you buy, which I would feel is lame if I’m a CE purchaser.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. DSB

    I can’t remember the last time I bought a CE. I contemplated getting the MW2 one, but I couldn’t justify it in the end.

    The pricing is pretty silly, and I don’t think it has anything to do with ArenaNet panicking, I’m pretty sure they have loads of backing.

    It’s simply because they don’t have a subscription, same as the micro-transactions. They need every buck they can get to keep it running.

    80 dollars for a Digital Deluxe edition is just a ridiculous barrier to entry though. And that’s for content that obviously couldn’t ever justify a pricetag like that.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. NeoSquall

    @8 The edition of the game you purchase shouldn’t determine what advanteges you gain prior to game release, only what you get after it’s open to the public.

    About the need to preorder to get in some Closed Betas-Open Betas/Demos, I think it’s more of a way for the publisher to have some kind of purchase predictions and user volumes prior to the game release and set up a proper server infrastructure.

    When a game goes into “true” open beta, when really everyone can enter, it basically means they’re making stress tests on the infrastructure, hoping to obtain some bug feedbacks from clever users.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. NeoSquall

    @9 ArenaNet will charge you when you’ll want more character slots, they will charge you for expansion packs and they will eventually charge you for some kind of boosts.

    Given this, charging you even before the games is released (or actually HAS a release date, for crying out loud) is not a good sign.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. TheWulf

    Anyone talking as though you need to be in the beta to enjoy the game is an idiot.

    FACT.

    You don’t have to be in the beta at all. In fact, if you preorder (not pre-purchase) the normal edition of the game, you still get in the headstart. The only thing you miss out on is the beta weekends.

    And less ethical than other systems? Oh for fuck’s sake, stop talking out of your rosy red arseholes, please. For the sake of my sanity, do.

    Star Wars: The Old Republic, charged you a price for preorder, and sold preorders on a prepurchase limited edition basis. (They used “Hey guys! Buy now because we only have a limited amount of these beta keys in stock!!1″ to actually make people pay for a preorder alone.)

    This system of pre-purchasing is just there for the fans who absolutely want to experience the beta weekends. And note – this isn’t an extended beta event, this is just the odd weekend here and there, at the end of which all characters will be wiped. The original Guild Wars did a similar thing.

    Do you know what misinformation does?

    It makes you look like the town idiot, the kind of drunken moron you find on a street corner spewing out endless conspiracy theories.

    Seriously.

    Try some dignity for once. I find that having enough dignity to actually bother to do some research before you post information is actually not that common amongst gamers. Many gamers frequently have THEIR ARSE as their only source of information.

    And then you people go and attack VG24/7 for their articles?

    What a fucking joke.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. TheWulf

    Now to highlight more idiocy, because idiocy is fun!

    “ArenaNet will charge you when you’ll want more character slots,”

    Did your research, did you? Guild Wars 2 already comes with a generous amount of character slots available, only those who’re going to create every race with every profession are going to need to buy more character slots. It’s going to be for the obsessive altaholics.

    “[...] they will charge you for expansion packs and they will eventually charge you for some kind of boosts.”

    You mean like WoW does? Like Lord of the Rings does? Like Everquest II does? Like Star Wars: The Old Republic will? Like every subscription-based MMORPG ever has?

    Are you stupid? Is that your problem?

    The idea here is that you pay NO subscription. Not a subscription AND for expansion packs.

    “Given this, charging you even before the games is released (or actually HAS a release date, for crying out loud) is not a good sign.”

    They’re not. Again, is being stupid your issue?

    They’re offering pre-purchase as an option to fans. You can also preorder from a number of retailers. Whether you preorder or pre-purchase is your choice. You’re talking as though you don’t have a choice because you didn’t bloody RESEARCH THE MATTER before you posted.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. TheWulf

    And now more stupidity!

    “The edition of the game you purchase shouldn’t determine what advanteges you gain prior to game release, only what you get after it’s open to the public.”

    Pfff. Let me know when you get back to earth, eh? Where the rest of us live. Have you been paying attention to every triple-A preorder and special edition EVER? Really. Look at Saints Row: The Third, look at Mass Effect 2 and 3. Look at Dragon Age. Look at whatever the hell you want.

    This is commonplace these days. And yet you pick out one company doing it because you’re butthurt and bittter.

    You honestly didn’t think we’d know better?

    “When a game goes into “true” open beta, when really everyone can enter, it basically means they’re making stress tests on the infrastructure, hoping to obtain some bug feedbacks from clever users.”

    Bullshit. Anyone with a sensible head on their shoulders knows that open betas have existed as a trial for subscription based games for a while now. They give you the trial as a taste so that they can tempt you into playing for the subscription.

    These ‘open betas’ you talk of have been polished and feature complete. It’s just a way to try and bring in more people, it’s marketing. But you may not have noticed (and knowing you you probably didn’t) but Guild Wars 2 doesn’t have a subscription, therefore it doesn’t need to do this.

    Thus, the beta weekends are actually betas, they are NOT feature complete. They’re using the feedback from people to fix things. Want an example? They had shit on the in-game store that people didn’t think would do well. Their response? They pulled it.

    Try RESEARCH first.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. TheWulf

    One of the biggest problems here is due to the incredibly clueless nature of people. I mean, really… these idiots attack VG24/7 whenever their article writers make a typo or a small error, and then they go and do the same thing by never bothering to read anything. Anything at all, ever.

    It’s just the sheer fucking hypocrisy of this that bothers me, and I will continue to pick them up on this because it makes them not only clueless, but complete arseholes to boot.

    The problem with them being clueleess here is that they don’t understand the difference between a pay-to-play beta and an actual beta.

    As I pointed out, a pay-to-play beta is just an event that they do in order to get people in and looking at the game to tempt them to pay the subscription. It’s not an actual beta because this ‘open beta’ is feature complete and polished, just how every open beta has ever been. I’ve been playing MMORPGs long enough to not be talking out of my arse about this.

    I actually have a clue. Seriously guys, having a clue is so important.

    No, this is actually a BETA. They’ve still got stuff in there that doesn’t quite work yet, things that are broken, and stuff they need to polish. There’s still stuff they’re deciding on (like the cash shop), and things that they want feedback on to finalise. This is how an ACTUAL BETA works. This isn’t the fantastic open beta which is already polished and perfect by the time it opens, which expects and listens to no player feedback.

    How can you tell the difference?

    Simple! Are they listening to player feedback?

    No open beta ever has taken player feedback into consideration. And if you look at some open betas, then this has clearly been a stunt to get people subscribing. I mean, Champions Online, back before Cryptic got their shit together, pulled this.

    How?

    They had their ‘advertising beta,’ then they landed a day one patch which made everything for the subscription-based players 100x more grindy, and it really nerfed the shit out of players in every regard. The information is out there if you want to read it. You know… RESEARCH.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. TheWulf

    So once again, here I am… cutting through the shit and proving that there are just commenters here who don’t have a fucking clue. Guys, save me having an aneurysm and at least bother to read once in a while so that I don’t have to clean up your rabidly rampant misinformation.

    I don’t do you the same disservice. Whenever I say something, I always have research to back it up. I’m always reading.

    At least do me and everyone else the same favour.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. viralshag

    ^ Someone needs to go wank off some stress over their pre-purchased copy of GW2 me thinks.

    And really, the biggest arsehole here is the one with overly long pointless fanboyish based blog posts. Honestly, if you want to write a whole fucking article, go start your own website.

    I don’t even understand how you’re not banned. All you do is troll and flame other people and talk down to most with such an air of condescension it’s ridiculous considering half the time you are talking out of your arse.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. absolutezero

    “At least do me and everyone else the same favour.”

    I think its just you.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Da Man

    I… I…

    ….
    ..
    .

    I.. never played Guild Wars. Does that.. make me a casual softcore !?!

    But then, I never played any mmo. Well, I once did some Shin Megami Tensei Something for a few days.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Talkar

    It seems people have forgot that a CE is meant for Collectors, and not for the average person. Well some may be, but there still are some that really are for collectors, and thus a highly priced. Nothing new here.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. viralshag

    It just makes you one of the smarts ones, clearly. Unlike the rest of us sub/no-sub grindtards.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Talkar

    lol xD

    #22 2 years ago
  23. DSB

    Speaking of oblivious people who may need to check themselves before they wreck themselves in a comment section, I think this is worth a look:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

    http://people.psych.cornell.edu/~dunning/publications/pdf/unskilledandunaware.pdf

    It’s interesting reading. I can’t say I’m an expert, but I’ve found that usually the drunken morons are the ones who go on the longest rants.

    No offence, OG. You’re good.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. wormsby

    Poor Wulf.

    He’s not a bad guy really. He’s just a bit unhinged. Particularly about GW2. Mention an MMO, he brings up GW2. Challenge anything about GW2, he loses it. Bans eventually follow.

    Miss you on RPS.

    #24 2 years ago