Analyst: Up to 1.5 million could be playing SWTOR pre-access

Monday, 19th December 2011 14:44 GMT By Johnny Cullen

Cowen & Company analyst Doug Creutz has claimed that up to 1.5 million users could be already playing Star Wars: The Old Republic via pre-access, as the BioWare MMO prepares to launch for all tomorrow.

As of this past weekend, EA has had 140 servers running as part of pre-launch access, up from the 106 operational when early players first logged-in on Wednesday.

In a note, Cruetz said the average player densities had “increased meaningfully.”

“Based on the number of servers now in operation, and the relatively high densities thereon, we feel fairly comfortable estimating that the game already has in excess of 1 million players, and potentially could have as many as 1.5 million, with the official launch date of the game yet to come,” he said.

“We note that EA gives players the first month free, so ‘players’ does not yet signify paying subscribers; however, our estimate does at least signify the number of people who have bought the game (and thus far, includes only a subset of those who pre-ordered the title).”

Cruetz said he remained “comfortable” that EA would meet the analyst firm’s estimate of reaching 2 million subs by FY2013.

Three years after it was first announced, SWTOR fully launches tomorrow.

Thanks, CVG.



  1. John117

    Wanna try this game, just for the sheer awesome class quests. Just need a buddy or two to join me, just need to convince people it aint “just like WoW” >_<

    #1 3 years ago
  2. mongbatstar

    Yea … it’s only quite like WoW.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. absolutezero

    The Level cap has already been reached. Its not even out yet.

    Brace yourself for a tonne of people complaining about a lack of content in a short time.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. DSB

    @3 How long has it been running? Granted, I know jack shit about how it works, but I’ve known people who literally didn’t sleep, or only slept for an hour or two purely to compete to be the first to reach the cap in WoW.

    It doesn’t neccesarily mean that people can’t spend days getting there, just that some people have pretty weird ambitions.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. Razor


    #5 3 years ago
  6. GrimRita

    Ive been playing it for a couple of weeks now and the class ‘story’ is really a small part of what you actually do. The rest are traditional long drawn out fetch quests.

    The biggest problem with this game is the UI. Its probably THE worst UI I have seen in an MMO. It clutters the screen, you cant zoom out far enough and, importantly, you cant customise it or actually move any bit of it around.

    Raid icons overlap your left side tool bar, when your companions complete a mission, a box 1/4 size of the screen appears no matter where you are and just gets in the way.

    Overall, its a very limited, linear experience. PvP has some potential but the tabbing is a joke and your pvp tokens you collect are limited to 1000. Which sounds a lot but when you only have pvp items from lvl 10,20,40 and 50 – there is a massive gap of items between 20-40. Once you reach your pvp token limit, thats it.

    Its clear that Bioware needed a bit more time to fine teak key areas of the game but EA wanted to get this out in time for Xmas. The game is polished (apart from memory leaks on Taris), massive Qs to get in. Its just a generic MMO that doesnt really set the world alight. But if Bioware actually be brave, instead of playing it so safe, this game could have potential to be a winner.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. absolutezero

    I think the early access started on the 13th, so just under a week or so.

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Erthazus

    the worst thing about this game is User Interface and UI is the most important part for MMORPG genre. It’s much more important than story, graphics, brand, gameplay, raids and etc.

    UI is important part of the success of any MMORPG since Ultima Online. If Bioware won’t fix that trash, they can GTFO the same way Galaxy went.

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Phoenixblight


    Their Internal testers can get it done in 3 days. Your point? People that know how to powerlevel will do it and the people that do will be the first to leave the game.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. Talkar

    Despite GrimRita and his constant whining about the game, i fully enjoy it. The class story alone is absolutely amazing! They are true Star Wars stories, and the PvE and PvP combat, OMG it is awesome! I also like how there is no LFG auto tool like in WoW, because it actually forces people to do something to be in a group! So the risk of someone joining, who is afk, is a lot smaller.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. absolutezero

    My point was that its not even officially released and there are already people at the level cap.

    Thats been a bad sign for any and all MMOs that its happened in.

    #11 3 years ago
  12. Talkar

    Powerlevelers, what do you expect?
    On my server the vast amount of people are at the early 20′s, and this server has been live since day 1 of early access.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. Phoenixblight

    Same here. Very few people are above 20 and even more so for people at level 50. If people want to blow through all the content and wait for people to catch up to them to do raids, instances, thats their business.

    The game has been going since the 13th people have blown through all MMOs at launch, they want to get at the end of the race. Then you see people in the forums complaining about not enough content, well they are not the majority nor are they the major consumer base.

    In WOW people got to level 60 within 4 days, this is nothing new at all.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. GrimRita

    @10 – Yeah I guess that major design flaws is a ‘whine’. Grow up.

    Someone in our guild reached level 50 today – 7 days. I believe all they did was follow the class grind…whoops, story.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. Phoenixblight


    Nice trolling there because you can’t level through Class stories there isn’t enough so eventually you get to block of not being high enough to do the class quest so you have to do the other quests in the surrounding area, PVP or flashpoints or old fashioned grinding.

    Really Grim you bitch and whine about every single thing and yet you play the damn game. Why? DO you also like cuttiing your wrists aswell? Really your complaints are like watching a child cry for attention because they don’t want to play at the park. My 2 year old daughter cries less than you. You been bitching about the game from day one and now that you are playing it is supposedly proving you right so it is obviously not for you. Move on, go play something else.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. Se_7_eN


    I fail to see why some people even play games, GrimRita being one of them, since I have never seen her post a positive comment on anything…

    I find TOR to be amazing! Really enjoying it, and definitely NOT ruining it by trying to speed level.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. Droid

    Most likely more than 1.5million. The queues to get on at peak times are very annoying though.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Talkar

    I agree with #15 and #16.
    Please go back to WoW Grim, you obviously aint cut out of this game.

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Ireland Michael

    @16 Grim actually made a number of positive comments about the game, such as how well polished in general it is, and the quality of the class quests.

    But apparently everyone wants to completely ignore that fact simply because she made some (well thought out) comments on obvious flaws in the design. You people do know its possible to enjoy something while still being critical of its faults, right? That’s how things improve.

    Seriously people, grow up. Attacking someone simply for making some critical observations? That’s pretty much the exact same thing that the rabid WoW fanboys do.

    #19 3 years ago
  20. trinket

    I do wonder why those complaining its too easy, and the story is boring, and the UI is rubbish – are STILL playing? Quit already! go find something else to do with your time. Get a new hobby, go for a drive, learn to drive, go to college, get a job, get a partner, watch a movie, go out for a drink – the choices are almost endless!

    And as a plus point, those million of us who are actually really enjoying the game, the story, and the slow levelling (yes thats right, some of us dont RUSH to the end as quickly as possible!) get to enjoy it without listening to you whining on like 10 year olds at a birthday party.

    #20 3 years ago
  21. DSB

    It’s not an MMO if people don’t half love and half hate it though.

    I reckon that’s a brilliant proof of concept.

    #21 3 years ago

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