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Jaffe values gameplay over cinematic experiences

Wednesday, 26 October 2011 01:45 GMT By Brenna Hillier

God of War creator David Jaffe has weighed in on the Uncharted 3 debate, saying he has learned to put gameplay ahead of cinematic experience.

“A lot of people ask me if I’d ever make another God of War and I always say the same thing: if it were God of War meets something like Zelda (formula wise), then yes. But if it were God of War using the current formula, I would not,” Jaffe wrote on his blog, responding to the controversy surrounding Eurogamer’s Uncharted 3 review, which praised the game but criticised its adherence to a trend toward cinematic experiences.

“For me – and this is just me personally – directing God of War made me realize that as a game designer and certainly as game director I want our games to serve the gods of gameplay first and foremost.

“My and the team’s desire to tell a story/make a movie may or may not get to be fulfilled, but if we do tell a story, it will never come at the expense of the gameplay – the thing that makes our medium matter and special. Games can have story (and many should, such as God of War) and most games – even pure play games – should have strong world and IP.

“But working on God of War made it clear that if we have to cut a set piece or bit of spectacle because of our desire to put play first, then so be it.”

Jaffe commented that despite the hype for cinematic games, its the “gamey” ones that sell best.

“Look at Guitar Hero, Modern Warfare 3, Angry Birds, Farmville, Mario, Madden, Wii sports, and on and on and on. Hell, even GTA sells to most folks because they just like to fuck around in the world (the game part),” he said.

“Look at the top of the charts: the game stuff sells buckets when it’s themed right and executed well. The experience stuff sells well too but not near as much as the gamey stuff and the experience stuff costs a hell of a lot more to make in most cases.”

Throughout the post Jaffe made it clear he was speaking in general terms, expressed his admiration for what he’d seen of Uncharted 3 so far, and made no judgements of his own on the accuracy of Eurogamer’s criticisms.

Thanks, GameInformer.

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30 Comments

  1. Ireland Michael

    Not based on God of War, you certainly don’t.

    #1 3 years ago
  2. DrDamn

    /cuts and pastes comments from any other thread where Jaffe dared to mention the word gameplay like he might know anything at all about it … crazy fool

    #2 3 years ago
  3. Takeshi

    Lol, the only reason I bothered to play the early God of War games was because I wanted to play the third one which in my opinion was the strongest. It honestly felt a lot like filler most of the time. God of War III was a lot better due to better graphics and more cinematic sequences. There was just a lot more of the stuff that I liked.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. DaMan

    Number 1 is a heathen. Where’s our mighty Gekidami with their Jaffe’s Bayonetta quote, saved somewhere in a Word document and the 9.4 Metacritic ratio, readily bookmarked for times like this?

    Oh, and Gta doesn’t sell because of gameplay, at least not the fourth one.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. Gekidami

    ^ I think all of the crying you’ve been doing over Apple has snapped your mind. You need a vacation.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. Erthazus

    Halo and Apple fanboy says something about the gameplay?

    Give me a break son.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. DaMan

    #5 , At least I don’t practice hypocrisy.

    Erthazus, I have more to say than socially isolated 21 year old bolsheviks living on the internet, and that’s all that should matter to you. Ironically, being a fanboy of Halo would certainly make me more qualified to talk about gameplay.. You’re such an idiot, even for a sin polka.

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Yoshi

    “Jaffe values quick time events over cinematic experiences” FIXED ;)

    #8 3 years ago
  9. DaMan

    ^Exactly.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. Erthazus

    @7 Everytime rednecks like you trying to say something it always makes people laugh out loud. Also, bolsheviks does not exist anymore retard, since Polish–Soviet War and WWII. You already showed your pathetic knowledge and hipocrisy here.

    You should go and play with your pink gay space marine with your stupid online friends. They are awaiting you on Xbox live. :P

    #10 3 years ago
  11. DaMan

    Erthazus, Thank you for proving my point.

    Unfortunately, bolsheviks do exist. They just happen to call themselves democrats now. Not to mention KPRF is the second largest party in Russia. You’re another excellent example, straight from Animal Farm.

    Not only you’re not a bright one, but incredibly shallow at that.

    #11 3 years ago
  12. Charlie Sheen

    @10 worst insult ive ever heard.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. Yoshi

    *YAWN* Hey people, ever heard of the saying. Stay on topic?

    #13 3 years ago
  14. Gekidami

    @7
    Sure you do. You rattle on, negatively about the PS3 whenever possible, using childish terms like “PoS3″, then later moan about platform trolling to Pat. You’re one of the biggest hypocrites on this site.

    In fact sheer fanboy rage has caused you to totally derail this article, and obsess over me. Like i said, you need a vacation.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. Christopher Jack

    I mostly agree with him, there’s nothing wrong with linear movie-like experiences like Uncharted & L.A. Noire, they’re some of the best games around, but they simply don’t make the big bucks despite their relatively high sales when compared to their development budget, don’t have as much lasting appeal & aren’t exactly easy to jump into when compared to the likes of simple FPS like CoD.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. DaMan

    #14, Taking things out of context they were originally put in doesn’t help you either, or selectively posting links at that.

    I don’t really negatively comment, if I did, then I would follow your sad example and probably say how Uncharted 3 metacritic ratio is outrageously unfair. But alas, I hardly said anything about Sony in the recent months. At least not in the context or circumstances being brought up here.

    Instead, all I recall from my recent Sony related posts is how I stated that 3ds looks visually more appealing to me, and little Gekidami instantly appearing. As I said, perhaps you should revaluate own perception.

    Besides, there’s consistent, continuous platform trolling, and random snide remarks. More so circumstantial.

    I call you a hypocrite because I’ve lost count how many times you ‘ve used Metacritic to validate something, yet instantly dismissed it the moment it doesn’t help to prove any of your points. Either you use it as a viable source or not.

    I’m not obsessed with you, I made an observation.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. viralshag

    I thought Space Marine balanced the two quite well. I think there is room for both story and gameplay heavy games in the industry and I have a feeling we’re only around the corner from someone striking that balance just right.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Joe Musashi

    Jaffe’s God of War was fantastic. There’s no more QTE in that game than, say, Bayonetta which I also adore. The latter often sees you finishing off a boss (and in-game combat) with pure button-mashing though.

    I’d go as far to say that the story (or more specifically, Kratos’ backstory) was one of the strongest motivators of the first God of War. I can’t say the same for Bayonetta.

    Still, Jaffe has as much right to express his opinion as anyone.

    JM

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Gekidami

    @16
    Source me commenting on UC3′s metacritic score.

    And pointing out an instance where i called you out on your platform trolling is a poor example.

    #19 3 years ago
  20. DaMan

    #19 I was saying how you recently commented on Arkham City, and if I were the same, I would surely make one or two remarks about Uncharted 3. Alas, there’s none.

    Again, there’s the trolling and the random snide remarks, besides I ‘m hardly ever the origin. I just happen to troll back at times.

    #20 3 years ago
  21. viralshag

    I borrowed a friend’s PS2 to play GoW1 & 2 before the launch of 3. I have to say after the first game I was too burnt out to even finish 2 let alone get into 3. Boring repetitive gameplay imo, don’t think I will ever bother going back to GoW.

    #21 3 years ago
  22. Christopher Jack

    @20, You’re trolling via derailing this thread, Geki is almost as bad but in his defence, you started it all.

    @21, Agreed, not a fan of repetitive gameplay unless it’s not the only point of the game, for instance I can handle RPGs having basic combat mechanics but there should be much, much, much more depth in a linear combat game.

    #22 3 years ago
  23. Gadzooks!

    I agree with Jaffe this one (and likely only) time. Gameplay is king, it is as simple as that.

    Glossy but shallow, gameplay-lite, QTE-ridden dross is the reason I abandoned the PS3. I like to play. Movies are for watching.

    #23 3 years ago
  24. DaMan

    #22, Fine, although I’ve made an observation.

    #24 3 years ago
  25. Christopher Jack

    @23, Video games are interactive entertainment, there is nothing else that truly defines a video game. Although I also agree that game play is almost always king, then the story tends to be the next most important factor followed by visuals but they all work best when blended together with nice doses of each component, although not every game needs a good story or high visuals but good gameplay is what makes a good game, a good game.

    #25 3 years ago
  26. daytripper

    i think 8/10 is a great score amongst a pit of even bigger scores, i class myself as a big fan of the uncharted series and i will be buying this, i like to support developers who’s products appease to my taste.

    as for all the moaning about certain reviews, this would not be as bad if the game was multiplatform, this is sonys biggest exclusive of 2011 – with that there is going to be people who will always scream and whinge if anything negative appears and will patronise and gloat as if the product was produced by themselves if unified praise is given. that says more about what type of person they are than to get annoyed about them. leave them be, like it or not, whatever platform, there will always be people of this kind, next generation and generations after that. it’s just the way it is.

    I thought the Gears 3 8/10 reaction was bad, twitter especially, cringeworthy shit writtten, then i saw the likes of neogaf after eurogamers uncharted review and i was glad, being a member, of the reaction in a way as it gave a guideline as to who to avoid and who’s opinions you should flush down the fucking toilet.

    #26 3 years ago
  27. triggerhappy

    @ Viral “I have to say after the first game I was too burnt out to even finish 2 let alone get into 3. Boring repetitive gameplay imo, don’t think I will ever bother going back to GoW.”

    EXACTLY my feelings towards GOW. Each to their own but im not into button mashing. I bought 1 & 2 for PS3 in preperation for 3 but sacked it after 2. I kind of liked the story though and was surprised how much I ended up liking Kratos as a character.

    #27 3 years ago
  28. Ireland Michael

    @7 Erthazus would shut up sooner if you simply ignored him. And sorry, but it takes two to tango. You’re both derailing the thread.

    @25 Well said. *claps*

    #28 3 years ago
  29. viralshag

    Don’t get me wrong, I like the character and the setting, even the story at a push. But generally, it was always going to end in Kratos slicing, dicing, chopping or maiming someone. I don’t mind some mindless fun, like I mentioned earlier, Space Marine, that’s pretty repetitive, I guess. Maybe I’m not so harsh on that because of the setting.

    I’m glad to see I’m not the only one that felt like this. A lot of people banged on about GoW being the next best thing since sliced bread. I would happily take the other GoW exclusive any day, tbh. ;)

    #29 3 years ago
  30. triggerhappy

    ^ Yeh it’s always kind of been a bit bigged up. I was expecting something more epic from the titles that supposedly pushed the bar on PS2 twice. My friend from work loves them and told me I missed out not playing them when they first came out, I suppose theres the whole nostalgia thing to factor in.

    #30 3 years ago

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    Club Nintendo members in Europe can once again pick up The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds soundtrack. For 3000 Stars, members of the program will receive the double-CD soundtrack which features 89 tracks with liner notes from Ryo Nagamatsu and 12 sheet music excerpts. It also comes with 16 Milk Bar Musician pieces. […]

  • HTC apologises over “confusing” Half-Life VR comments

    HTC has misspoke when it talked about Half-Life coming to VR headset Vive. HTC chairwoman Cher Wang has apologised over the comments she made yesterday about the possibility of Half-Life coming to Vive, the VR headset it’s manufacturing with the help of Valve. Sources close to Valve, have indicated to the BBC that the developer […]

  • What do Heists and Daily Objectives tell us about the future of GTA Online?

    Daily Objectives could be more important to GTA Online than Heists. These theories and more, from a giddy Matt Martin. Yesterday Rockstar dropped a bombshell. Not only is it releasing Heists next week – the mythical 4-player missions for GTA Online – but it’s also going to be introducing daily challenges and more modes to […]

  • Breaking down Hardline Premium, is it worth it?

    Having been announced just a few days ago, the Premium service for Battlefield Hardline has been a topic of constant debate among the Battlefield community. Many look at Hardline as a Battlefield off-shoot that will just tide everyone over until Battlefront comes out in the fall. EA has other plans however, announcing a $50 Premium […]

  • Watch Dogs sold more than GTA 5 and FIFA 15 in Australia in 2014

    Watch Dogs outsold GTA 5, and FIFA 15, at retail in Australia last year. According to data obtained by the Interactive Games & Entertainment Association (IGEA) from the NPD Group Australia, last year’s year retail sales charts look a bit different in Australia. The top-selling game was Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, followed by Watch […]

  • Watch PC footage of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt from GDC 2015

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has a new gameplay video available that shows a bit of action from the PC version. The video below was captured from Nvidia’s GDC conference live-stream. Developer CD Projekt RED was on hand to show off The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt‘s graphical prowess running on a PC. Thanks, GamesHQMedia.

  • Dying Light: Hard Mode and Ultimate Survivor Bundle out March 10

    Dying Light’s second DLC drop, the Ultimate Survivor Bundle, and the free Hard Mode, have been given a solid release date alongside a new trailer. Dying Light developer Techland has confirmed that the Ultimate Survivor Bundle, the game’s second DLC drop, will release March 10. The DLC is part of the season pass, but will […]

  • Exploration puzzler Ether One is coming to PlayStation 4

    Ether One, the first-person exploration game that puts you in the minds of other people to help change events of their past is coming to PlayStation 4 this year. Ether One is coming to PlayStation 4 this year, developer White Paper Games announced at GDC 2015. A retail version will also be available alongside the […]

  • Larian “murdered” Divinity: Dragon Commander to focus on Original Sin

    Divinity: Original Sin developer Larian talked very candidly about the business side of development and the many unfortunate events that took place for the game to come out as it did. Larian Studios founder Swen Vincke gave a post-mortem on the troubled development of Divinity: Original Sin, and how it managed to overcome all of […]

  • Firewatch probably has the most natural dialogue of any game to date

    Firewatch developer Campo Santo has revealed the first ever gameplay footage of the upcoming exploration game. Firewatch is the first game from super indie studio Campo Santo. The game is set in the Wyoming forests where the player will be exploring the environment and act as a fire lookout. The game features extensive voice-acting as […]

  • White Night launch trailer is a noir thriller trip

    White Night is here, not long after it was revealed and with a mysterious launch trailer. White Night, the black-and-white survival horror set in 1930s Boston, has revealed its launch trailer. White Night is mix of old-school horror, exploration and puzzling solving in an eerie, noir setting. The game’s main mechanic is light. any object […]

  • Free-to-play is “a significant part” of PlayStation’s digital future

    Free-to-play games on PlayStation 4 have seen enough growth that Sony is now considering the model a major part of its future digital business. Sarah Thompson, senior account executive for PlayStation’s free-to-play business said at a GDC panel that Sony has witnessed impressive growth in the free-to-play sector. “We’re really looking at this as a […]

  • Double Fine Adventure Kickstarter documentary releasing free on YouTube

    Broken Age making of documentary Double Fine Adventure will be made available to all. When Double Fine turned to crowdfunding, changing the industry forever, it promised to give an unprecedented look behind the scenes with a professional documentary of the whole development process of Broken Age. That documentary was initially restricted to Kickstarter backers, but […]

  • Gone Home console ports cancelled following Midnight City difficulties

    Gone Home won’t be made available to the console masses after all. Indie hit Gone Home was announced for console release almost exactly one year ago, and we’ve heard absolutely nothing since then. Turns out, that’s because it’s not happening: developer the Fullbright Company confirmed to Eurogamer that the ports have been cancelled. “Our publishing […]

  • Microsoft rang Mojang the day Notch joked about selling

    Minecraft developer Mojang was sold because founder Markus “Notch” Persson made a joke on Twitter. Ever wondered how Minecraft came to be a Microsoft property? It’s actually a pretty great story. Remember when Notch tweeted this? Anyone want to buy my share of Mojang so I can move on with my life? Getting hate for […]

  • Halo: The Master Chief Collection matchmaking update rolling out

    Halo: The Master Chief Collection has been updated to help fix its tragic matchmaking. Again. Now almost four months old, Halo: The Master Chief Collection was still pretty broken as of this morning, with rubbish matchmaking and plenty of other issues to go around. 343 Industries is still trying to fix it, and has today […]

  • Nvidia unveils Shield, an Android 4K Smart TV set top box

    Nvidia has named yet another product “Shield” in an attempt to render us all hopelessly confused. The heart of Nvidia’s GDC 2015 press conference was the Shield, a $200 Android set top box launching in May. Apparently the “world’s first 4K Android TV”, the Shield supports 4K content encoded with h.265. The box runs on […]

  • Star Wars Battlefront footage shown behind closed doors

    Star Wars Battlefront is being shown to retailers. Now we want EA to show it to us. Star Wars Battlefront is expected sometime this year, so it’s about time EA gave us a look at DICE’s latest. It turns out that while press and gamers have had to twiddle their thumbs, EA is showing it […]

  • Dragon Age lead creative moves onto mysterious new BioWare project

    Dragon Age creator David Gaider is leaving his baby behind. Dragon Age is a team effort, but Gaider was one of the key creatives behind the franchise, creating the setting of Thedas (which, I was recently amused to learn, is an acronym: “THE Dragon Age Setting”). He was lead writer on all three games and […]

  • Unity 5 available for free with “no fucking around”

    Unity 5 looks amazing, and you can download and faff about with it for free right now. “We’re not nickel-and-diming people. When we say it’s free, it’s free. We’re not charging a royalty, which I think is akin to looking for whales.” Unity Technologies announced the release of the fifth version of its popular, simple, […]

  • Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 may be the end of the series

    Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 released yesterday, and many fans theorise that it marks the end of the series. Five Nights at Freddy’s developer Scott Cawthon has released a new teaser image on his website, but rather than pointing to a new game, many fans believe the teaser signals the end of the series. The […]

  • Source 2 announced, will also be free

    Valve has formally unveiled Source Engine 2, the third major engine to go free to developers at GDC 2015. Source 2 is the successor to the engine Valve has been using since Counter-Strike: Source and Half-Life 2. Valve didn’t have much to say about the technicalities of this long-awaited release. It is apparently focused on […]

  • SteamVR: Valve’s Lighthouse tech allows you to walk around while playing

    SteamVR’s key differentiator is a piece of tech allowing headsets to connect with other devices for extra accurate, room-scale tracking. Valve has announced a new bit of technology called Lighthouse, which it is making freely available to any hardware manufacturer. Like the extra tracking LEDs on Sony’s updated Project Morpheus, Lighthouse improves the headset’s accuracy, […]

  • Steam Machines, Controller, streaming box to launch in November

    Steam Machines will finally become a reality before the end of the year. Valve’s living room PC systems will release in November, the company announced today. Well, I say Valve’s – the idea behind Steam Machines is that a number of manufacturers will offer variously priced systems. Alienware and Falcon Northwest are among the dozen […]

  • Telltale veterans form new team, announce teen thriller Oxenfree

    Oxenfree is a supernatural teen thriller from some of the team behind Telltale Games’ award-winning adventures. New indie Night School Studios unveiled Oxenfree at GDC 2015. It tells the story of a group of friends who accidentally open a “ghostly rift” at an overnight party on the coast. Night School, which is made up of […]

  • PS4 global sales now stand at over 20.2 million

    The PS4 has sold 20.2 million units worldwide. Sony announced the new PS4 sales milestone at GDC 2015 today. It’s a hell of an achievement and salt in the wounds for Microsoft, which hasn’t updated us on Xbox One sales since it shipped “almost” 10 million back in November last year, and has fallen back […]

  • PS4 VR headset Morpheus out in 2016, capable of 120 FPS – video

    Sony’s VR headset Project Morpheus has some impressive grunt. Virtual reality and Morpheus were the heart of Sony’s GDC 2015 presentation today, ahead of its newly announced first-half 2016 comemrcial launch. SCE Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida detailed the headset’s impressive capabilities, notably the fact that it can handle 120 FPS VR games. The PS4 […]

  • Papo & Yo developer making a VR game about dinosaurs

    Some days you write a headline and it makes you so happy that that you have to do a little chair dance, you know what I mean? Papo & Yo developer Minority Media, whom I would personally go to the wall for after they cut out my heart and stomped on it via the medium […]

  • Wasteland 2, Shovel Knight and more in big ole bunch of indies coming to Xbox One

    Xbox One owners are about to receive a pile of great new indie games. At GDC 2015, Microsoft revealed a list of new indie games headed to Xbox One. Some of these titles have already released on other platforms, so it looks like Microsoft has really relaxed the parity clause of ID@Xbox – or perhaps […]

  • Here’s an indie VR game made with Unreal Engine 4

    GDC 2015 is blowing up with indie games, VR and Unreal Engine 4, so here’s a video combining all three. Loading Human is a virtual reality adventure from indie developer Untold Games. It’s in the works for Mac and PC, and Sony has given an early green light for Project Morpheus, too, so expect it […]

  • GTA Online: Daily Objectives and Adversary Mode coming next week

    Heists aren’t the only thing coming to GTA Online next week: players can also expect Adversary Modes, new Daily Objectives and other Freemode activities. GTA Online’s Adversary Modes are new PvP modes which feature a range of competitive challenges and will unlock as players progress through Heists. Here’s a rundown straight from Rockstar: Come Out […]

  • Syndicate is the latest free game download on Origin

    The latest free title to be added to EA’s Origin service is 1993′s Syndicate. For a limited time, you can download the game for free and keep it, much like previous titles such as Theme Hospital. The isometric, real-time, tactical-action game was developed by Bullfrog Productions and released in June 1993. It is a favorite […]

  • Ancient Labyrinth DLC for Lords of the Fallen now available

    The Ancient Labyrinth DLC for Lords of the Fallen is now available for PC, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. It will run you $7.99 and builds upon the existing lore, characters, and storyline. Have a look at some new screenshots in the gallery below.

  • Shadowrun Online gets a name change and release date

    Shadowrun Online developer Cliffhanger Productions has announced the game’s name has been changed to Shadowrun Chronicles: Boston Lockdown and a release date for April has been set. The new title was formed via the developer and its Kickstarter backers, with the goal being to let those unfamiliar with the game know by the title alone […]

  • Amazon hosting Rockstar and 2K Games sale

    Amazon is hosting a Rockstar Games and 2K Games sale with discounts Max Payne titles, Bully and more. Here’s just some of the offerings listed: Manhunt 2 PC Download $3.00 Max Payne 3 PC Download $4.00 Bully: Scholarship Edition PC Download $3.00 LA Noire Xbox 360 $2.95 L.A. Noire: The Complete Edition PC Download $6.00 […]

  • Destiny weekly reset video shows off Inferno Crucible gameplay

    We have a gameplay video featuring Inferno Crucible gameplay featured in the Destiny weekly reset for you. In it, Arekkz Gaming gives you a look at Inferno Crucible and goes over the various intricacies. You can read up on the weekly reset through the links.

  • Resident Evil: Revelations 2 Episode 2 available from today

    Episode 2 for Resident Evil: Revelations 2 is now available. If you’ve purchased the Complete Season, you’ll be able to download Episode 2 on PS3, PS4 and Xbox One. Steam players should see the episode go live around 9-10pm PST, and Xbox 360 owners should be able to download very early tomorrow morning, per Capcom […]

  • Here’s a sneak peek video for Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide

    Fatshark Games has released a sneak peek video for its upcoming Games Workshop title, Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide. Vermintide is a FPS, co-op action title coming to PC, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, and its set during the End Times of the Warhammer universe in the city of Ubersreik. Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare video shows Ascendance DLC early access weapon

    As you know, Xbox Season Pass holders now have early access to the Ascendance DLC Pack bonus weapons for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. Now you can watch a trailer for the weapon. The OHM directed energy hybrid weapon can switch between an LMG and Shotgun “on the fly,” and it also includes the OHM-Werewolf […]

  • March PS Plus games include OlliOlli 2, Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty, more

    March PlayStation Plus titles have popped up on the PS Plus page. Noticed by NeoGAF user skynidas, the titles include: OlliOlli2 (PS4/VITA) Valiant Hearts: The Great War (PS4) Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty (PS4) Counterspy (PS4/PS3) Papo & Yo (PS3) Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishment (PS3) A notice has also been posted on the EU PS […]