Tue, Aug 09, 2011 | 07:55 BST

John Carmack: Full RAGE 360 install to weigh in at 22Gb

Ouch.

id’s John Carmack has said that those who’ve bought and opted to install a 360 version of RAGE will find themselves with 22Gb less space on their HDD.

For reference sake, id’s Tim Willits told VG247 last year in France that the game would come on two discs for 360, while the PS3 version would be on one Blu-ray.

In terms of the install itself, Carmack gave a simple ultimatum in his Quakecon keynote (as spotted by TSA): everything or nothing.

“On the 360 we don’t have a partial install option; it’s all or nothing, which is kind of unfortunate,” he said. “It means you have to install 21/22GB of stuff which takes a long time but if you’ve got it and you play it on the 360 that’s the way to go.”

RAGE releases on October 4 in the US and October 7 in the UK for PS3, 360 and PC.

70 comments

#51

Maximum Payne
08/08/11, 6:05 pm

I just comment now to be on next page :)

#52

manamana
08/08/11, 6:17 pm

@viralshag no way – its got to be the iomega Zip-drive!

#53

N2O1990
08/08/11, 6:58 pm

>“On the 360 we don’t have a partial install option; it’s all or nothing, which is kind of unfortunate,”

is that mean this game will be like Forza 3/4(you don’t need to change disc if you fully installed)

#54

ManuOtaku
08/08/11, 7:07 pm

Guys speaking of which, and it is somewhat related, like i mentioned before, thanks for the member that responded me, i have a 500 gb external Hard Drive for my ps3, but i cannot put in it the games that i did download, and /or the DLC for the games, and/or the needed instalations, i think it is in the gaming folder, but the external hard drive only lets me save on it the gaming saving data, therefore i check the ps3 and theres is one option back up, therefore the question is i can back up everthing on the hard drive and then erase it on the ps3?, it can be accesed when i do start some old game from the back up or i need to installed again?, again this is related because i think i will need all the space available just for this game, i didnt decide yet which console i will be picking it up.

#55

Christopher Jack
08/08/11, 8:47 pm

@54, Sorry man, I believe your only option is to upgrade, if you use a huge amount of data, I’d recommend looking at getting a 1tb hdd. Remember, any 2.5″ SATA hdd will run in the PS3, the same HDD you would shove into a laptop.

#56

ManuOtaku
08/08/11, 8:57 pm

Thanks Christopher, but the thing is iam not savy on this thing and to tell you the truth iam petrified to open my console and put an internal hard drive, i know there is a high chance for me to screw things up, so i go the safest way external, well i think i will be picking it up on the 360 then, hey by the way do you did a back up operation do you know how it goes, maybe i can do that on the external hard drive?

#58

ManuOtaku
08/08/11, 8:59 pm

#57 thanks i will check that at my home.

#59

Christopher Jack
08/08/11, 9:21 pm

I’m not a tech savvy person myself, but I managed to upgrade with ease. That guide seems to completely skip the part where you need to install the latest firmware update onto some form of external storage, better off watching this guide, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2d3JCMHL4o

it too doesn’t mention it since the requirement is newish, just download it from here http://au.playstation.com/ps3/support/system-software/detail/item384081/Update-features-%28ver-3-66%29/
you will have to put the file into a folder named “UPDATE” & put that folder into another one called “PS3″ which I would leave at the top of the external storage directory if I were you, it has to be in caps in the exact way I’ve written it, to make it simpler, follow ‘method 2′ on this guys post http://www.absolute-playstation.com/playstation-network/expert-playstation-3-hardware-accessory-help-playstation3-ps3-console/6709-how-update-playstation-3-firmware.html.

#60

Mike W
08/08/11, 9:42 pm

@ManuOtaku

It’s really easy bro, the hardest part is that damn blue screw.

#61

Mike W
08/08/11, 9:45 pm

As for this article, it’s unfortunate for the players that have a 20gb 360 they either have to buy MS’s hard drive or buy a whole new system all together. Sucks for the player, great for MS.

#62

ultramega
08/08/11, 9:48 pm

It makes perfect sense, and is completely understandable, if you watch his keynote. The whole thing is a very interesting listen anyways.

#63

minxamo
08/08/11, 10:04 pm

Welp, i suppose it’s about time i get rid of this 20gb HDD and buy a decent one.
I only wish Microsoft didn’t charge so much for so little.

#64

Mike W
08/08/11, 10:15 pm

I was just over at Eurogamer and boy oh boy the comment section for this same article is beyond words. The inbreeds over at Digital Foundry are going to have a field day when they get the chance to put this title under their microscope. I can see it now, their “precious” 360 is going to get a pass on the title seeing how big the install is and they’re going to rag on the PS3 for the littlest thing and praise the PC version of game. Mark my words, this is the power of the internet. When a bunch of fanboy fucks make up some mysterious device that counts pixels and frames (that is only approve by them and no one else) and make 1000s of people believe their bullshit.

#65

Christopher Jack
08/08/11, 10:17 pm

@61, Or melt their 360 by trying to run it from the disk :P
Unlikely unless you already have poor ventilation but running a powerful game on top of it like Rage or L.A. Noire won’t help any.

#66

strikkebil
08/08/11, 11:16 pm

gamesradar said it ran alot better on 360 than ps3. so i dont care about this. i can understand ppl who have old xboxes dont like it. but i dont see what the big deal is really. isnt it optional?

#67

daytripper
08/08/11, 11:52 pm

some of you have to be trolling and not serious.

#68

DaMan
09/08/11, 1:49 am

#64 Cool story, brah.

#69

Henry
09/08/11, 2:59 am

360′s install is optional. (except Forza3)

So, if you don’t have 22GB of space, just don’t install and play by discs. That’s all.

And even if you choose to install, you can install only the disc you are playing. That’s only 6-7GB.

btw, if the game comes on 2 discs, how can it store 22GB data?

#70

Christopher Jack
10/08/11, 8:01 pm

@69, Compression? Haven’t you ever installed a PC game?

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