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Wedbush: Wii U is “two years late”

Monday, 13 June 2011 15:01 GMT By Johnny Cullen

Analyst firm Wedbush Morgan has said that the arrival of Wii U has come “two years late.”

“We think that Wii U is arriving two years late, given that the other HD consoles already have peripherals for movement,” said a note from the company, attributed to Michael Pachter, Edward Woo and Nick McKay.

“As Nintendo did not provide any specifics around the new console’s power or pricing, we are assuming that the Wii U is unlikely to provide greater power than the current HD consoles,” it added, referring to comments made by NoA boss Reggie Fils-Aime that footage of third-party games for Wii U were running from PS3 or 360 versions of those games.

“If that is the case, we believe Nintendo has conceded a tremendous first mover advantage to Microsoft and Sony, which launched Kinect and Move control schemes, respectively, in late 2010.”

Followings its full unveiling last week, Wii U launches next year, with a spring or summer release likely.

Thanks, GI.

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32 Comments

  1. Blerk

    I’m struggling to think of a way in which I could be less interested in Wii U at this point. It just looks… pointless.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. Erthazus

    Dreamcast 2 is here.

    Same shit. I could understand that controller would have a multitask feature but no, just a single touch screen… Nintendo still live in the age where internet does not exist.

    Even Playstation Vita have multitask touch screen.

    It’s super pointless.

    and when it launches for 299$ or 399$ 360 and PS3 will be even cheaper.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. alterecho

    At first i totally didn’t like it but now, i think the controller is cool. Like you can have a tactical mini-map on your hands and give commands.

    The Future Soldier demo in the closed developer conference video for Nintendo really helped to change my outlook on the controller.

    The lack of multiple controller support is dumb and lack of multi-touch too. Its powerful enough to run future soldier on full HD but they should have incorporated more for future titles.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Eregol

    I don’t normally agree with analysts as they all spout nonsense and shit.
    But on this occasions they have got it spot on.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. pukem0n

    Well, Wedbush Morgan is Michael Pachter and he is always right!

    #5 4 years ago
  6. Christopher Jack

    I think the controller would be cool as a tablet or an addon for one but I don’t want a tablet to play on a separate screen.

    #6 4 years ago
  7. El_MUERkO

    The reality is, by being here, on this blog, commenting on the Wii U, we know one thing: WE ARE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE.

    The target audience are the tens of millions of families out there with a Wii under their TV and children who enjoy “teh marios!!!”.

    Pachter seems to think this is Nintendo’s attempt to ‘recapture the hardcore gamer market’, like fuck it is! Did they not see the demo stuff they showed at E3?!

    Sure the system will be powerful enough to run games built for the 360 and PS3 but make no mistake, the players of those games are a tiny part of the market that Nintendo don’t care about.

    #7 4 years ago
  8. Blerk

    All the 8-year-olds my son knows seem to be playing Black Ops these days. :-|

    #8 4 years ago
  9. Stardog

    I agree that it’s 2 years too late.

    If they released a WiiHD a few years ago, they could have had LA Noire, Mass Effect 2, etc, but they’ve missed the boat.

    If you think tactical minimaps will save this, then you’re crazy. Third parties won’t put any effort into utilising the controller’s screen, just like they didn’t with the Wii’s controllers. I think they will still see it as the “side” console, as with the Wii.

    Nintendo’s only hope is their first-party games.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. ManuOtaku

    I think he is wrong, mainly due the fact that is right now that the adoption rate for HD tv is now higher than never before, right now it is aprox. 50%+ rate, going back two years for now i t was not the case at all, adoption rates were struggling to catch the consumers,therefore now is the right time to go with HD consoles, because now is common on the users houses.

    Also if you look at the instaled based of the ps2 130 million aprox., you see that the ps3 it is struggling to get to half of that numbers, which is also almost the adoption rate of HD tv equipment by consumers right now, is this coincidence?, maybe or maybe not, there is almost 70 million ps2 adopters that didnt made the jump to ps3, in the upcoming years they will be doing it as the adoption rates of HD will be getting bigger, therefore i think now is the right time to come with HD consoles, therefore the Wii U will be ok in the consumers eyes, and we dont know yet the power of the Wii U specs wise to tell if it is two years late, we need to have all the variables in the equation to do that.

    #10 4 years ago
  11. ManuOtaku

    #8 please dont said that, it means the our future generation will be lost for sure T_T

    #11 4 years ago
  12. ManuOtaku

    #9, nintendo did survive all this years in all the gens, even with the wii, for their first party maded tittles, and this will continue for sure in all the nintendo life in business, now the question is if they can capture the third party support, if they are able to this, like it seems with this new console, then it will cement their position in this industry, which i hope so.

    #12 4 years ago
  13. Freek

    Nintendo’s strategy has, for a number of years now, been to use existing technology cheaply in new and interesting ways. It’s how the made the Wii, the DS and the 3DS.
    And it means they make money on every single console they sell, rather then MS and Sony who loose money for the first couple years, not to mention the expensive R&D required to come up with cutting edge tech.

    Lets not forget that the Wii and DS sell a metric f#ck ton more then any of it’s competitors.
    You’d think financial analysts would be more aware of this.

    #13 4 years ago
  14. Dralen

    @7 If that’s the case, they should GTFO of our E3. E3 is for the hardcore, simple as.

    #14 4 years ago
  15. HeavenlyGamer

    @ #8, Blerk

    Great joke about letting your 8-year old son play Black ops! Only a fucking retard would let his 8-year old kid play games that involves nothing else but killing people.

    #15 4 years ago
  16. ManuOtaku

    #14, Sorry i do not agree, i think E3 is for gamers of all types , i mean all the people that enjoys videogames.

    #16 4 years ago
  17. Dralen

    @16 Hardcore may not have been the right word. People get a bit angry when you use that word. But who are the gamers that watch E3 at home or go to the press conference? It sure isn’t Nintendo’s target market.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. Blerk

    @15, I don’t let my son play Black Ops. Not only because it’s full of killing and stuff, but also because it’s rubbish and I’d like him to grow up with proper gaming tastes. :-)

    This doesn’t appear hold true for most of his friends’ parents, sadly. Their kids are pretty much all playing COD, Bad Company and Grand Theft Auto, not Mario. Mario is, apparently, ‘gay’.

    #18 4 years ago
  19. Gama_888

    Im pretty sure i said this when the Project cafe was first leaked.

    How the hell do i geta job with these people?

    #19 4 years ago
  20. HeavenlyGamer

    @ #18, Blerk

    Thank god you don’t! Yeah it’s sad. Those are usually the kind of parents that bring their kids to MacDonald’s for a proper, healthy meal.

    I’d say, let kids play games like Tetris, games that actually help with the development of your brain (in a positive way).

    Haha, Mario is gay nowadays? I grew up playing those games and had a lot of fun doing so. I also remember being allowed to play video games for one hour, and not even every day!

    #20 4 years ago
  21. The_Red

    @2 / Erthazus
    Do NOT insult DreamCast :)
    That system showed real promise and some great games. Wii U reveal had PS3/360 footage downloaded from the net. Plus, DreamCast had better graphics than N64 and PSone. Right now, Wii U could still be inferior to PS3/360 in terms of graphical power.

    #21 4 years ago
  22. The Evil Pope

    The 360/PS3 are shit. I still haven’t bought any of them.

    I’ll buy the Wii U…

    #22 4 years ago
  23. manamana

    ^ must be hard, living under a stone. On the dark side of the moon. Titan that is, from saturn, right?

    #23 4 years ago
  24. DarkElfa

    The unveiling of the Wii U went about as bad as when Isildur refused to toss the ring into Mt. Doom.

    IOW, they had one change to destroy evil forever and failed, epic style.

    First, they needed power. They didn’t really show they had any. Second, they needed games. They showed a handful of titles. Third, they needed to bring back the core gamer group. I think they forgot that altogether.

    They needed a real controller, a blu-ray player, hard core titles as well as golden oldies as well as free online MP.

    #24 4 years ago
  25. TVs Everywhere

    The reality is, by being here, on this blog, commenting on the Wii U, we know one thing: WE ARE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE.

    You clearly didn’t catch the GT interview with Reggie where he LITERALLY said that they’re targeting hardcore gamers with this.

    That excuse ain’t gonna fly anymore. People just need to admit once and for all that Nintendo has completely lost touch with “us”.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. Clupula

    So far, the Mii Too looks like a complete trainwreck.

    #26 4 years ago
  27. JackTheLittle

    i dont know why people think WiiU’s graphical power is less than ps3/360!
    even if the third party game footage’s was from ps3,thats nat a solid reason.
    to show the power of system they showed some nature demo and probably thats it.its alot better than this gen.plus what make nintendo system & games popular even among core gamers is not graphical power,its their innovative and great games!

    #27 4 years ago
  28. Phoenixblight

    @27

    that nature video has no shading and they didn’t reveal any specs for it so naturally people are going to assume it will be less. If you have nothing to show other than Tech demos and other console footage you are hiding something and really shouldn’t have showed off your non existent system. All they were doing is showing off the new controller.

    #28 4 years ago
  29. JackTheLittle

    28@
    what about zelda tech demo?
    they didn’t show their system fully not because they had nothing to show,but because their new way to play with controller was more important that they only focused on it.and i think they did the right thing but maybe not in the right way!

    #29 4 years ago
  30. Phoenixblight

    What about the demo? It was scripted the Nintendo person playing was like a salesman selling the latest gizmo. The demo was not the focus it was a video thats all it was, there was no control other than the lighting of the level or where the player sees.

    #30 4 years ago
  31. JackTheLittle

    ^if it was to show the system’s graphical power,i think it was good enough.
    even if it was not fantastic for graphic freaks it still will appeal to millions of gamers.

    #31 4 years ago
  32. Phoenixblight

    @31

    No it wasn’t the PR was putting that controller right in the way of the video being shown if they wanted to show the power of the console they wouldn’t use Xbox 360 or PS3 footage or show off a cartoony nature video. Or talk through the video and put the WIi pad in front of the video. THey weren’t showing off what the system would do but showing off their new controller.

    #32 4 years ago

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    Bungie has not completely ruled out the idea of bringing a trading system to Destiny. Destiny does not offer any way for players to trade items amongst themselves. But ever since the game’s release, players have never stopped asking Bungie to add one in. While the developer does not have a satisfying answer, it’s still […]

  • Destiny: Xur location and inventory for April 24, 25 – MIDA Multi-Tool edition

    The weekend Exotics market run by Xur: Agent of the Nine is now open for business. Destiny’s bizarre vendor, Xur, has arrived at the Tower. Xur is your man if you’re looking for Exotic armour or weapons. Not only that, but he will also let you exchange your old Exotic gear for new, upgraded versions. […]

  • Warcraft movie delayed yet again

    The Warcraft movie will no longer hit theatres in March 2016. The release date of the Warcraft movie has been pushed back by three months. The movie was expected in March 2016, but Legendary Pictures announced yesterday that it is now due on June 10, 2016. No reason was given for the delay. This is […]

  • Destiny: Iron Banner returns on April 28

    Destiny’s Iron Banner PvP event will return this Tuesday. Bungie has announced that the Iron Banner, it’s once-every-few-weeks PvP event, will make a return with next week’s weekly reset. It was initially due this week, but because of the recent Crucible changes that were implemented with patch 1.1.2, Bungie wanted to wait and see. That […]

  • Deus Ex devs take the piss out of Black Ops 3

    Deus Ex developers have been having a bit of a laugh at the expense of Call of Duty’s official Twitter account. You would be forgiven to think that yesterday’s Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 ‘Ember’ teaser was part of an ad campaign for a Deus Ex game, with all the biohacking, wearable tech, augmentation, […]

  • Bungie weekly update: Commendations begone

    Destiny’s weekly update is here to determine the fate of all those Commendations you’ve been earning in the past few months. Bungie started off this week’s update with a recap of the details revealed during the recent livestream. There wasn’t really anything on this front that they haven’t talked about already. With the exception of […]

  • This GTA 5 trainer lets you play as almost anything and it’s the best thing ever

    Want to play GTA 5 as a monkey, a cat, a fish, a deer or some other non-human thing that we eat or keep as a pet? ScriptHook has you covered. Not only can you play as critters, it change other game values, according to an explanation from PC Gamer. These values include making changes […]

  • EA Sports moves Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR release date to July

    EA Sports has announced Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR will be released in July. Originally announced for June, the golf game will now release the same week as the Open Championship at St. Andrews, on July 14. EA also provided some more color on gameplay features such as the ability to customize the game by borrowing […]

  • Jason Voorhees joins Mortal Kombat X in May, Kombat Pack owners get first dibs

    Jason Voorhees will arrive for Mortal Kombat X players in May, NetherRealm Studios announced today during the latest Kombat Kast. Jason will be shown for the first time on Monday, May 4 during a special Kombat Kast. According to EventHub which watched the livestream, the developer will also show off the character’s move and Variations. […]

  • The Witcher 3: Nvidia heads to Poland for a behind-the-scenes look – video

    A video for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has been released, taking you behind-the-scenes with CD Projekt RED. Nvidia’s GeForce crew went to the firm’s studio in Poland to talk with the game’s executive producer John Mamais, who provides a look at the PC version of the upcoming RPG. CD Projekt, according to the video […]

  • Microsoft notes decline in Xbox unit sales for Q3 FY15 to 1.6 million

    Microsoft reported its Q3 FY15 earnings today, citing growth in Xbox Live usage as one of the contributing factors to the firm’s reported revenue. However, the firm noted a decline in units sales for its Xbox consoles during the quarter. Microsoft Q3 2014 (yoy comparison) Microsoft Q1 fiscal 2015 Microsoft Q2 fiscal 2015 The firm […]

  • Powerplay is a new feature included in the Elite: Dangerous May update

    The next update for Elite: Dangerous is coming next month and it includes a new feature called Powerplay. According to Frontier Developments, Powerplay allows players to participate in an ongoing battle that “enhances every aspect” of the game. Players can become allies with a number of galactic Powers and guide their strategy, pursue objectives in […]

  • Facebook says it’s “too early” to discuss large-scale shipments of Oculus Rift

    Facebook has said it is “too early” to discuss large-scale shipments of Oculus Rift as the VR headset is still in the development stages. Speaking during a call to investors, Facebook CFO David Wehner said the company had nothing to announce regarding the amount of stock it expected to ship. “We have not announced any […]

  • Battlefield Hardline’s first patch and rental server program hits next week

    Battlefield Hardline’s first patch has a release date for both consoles and PC. PC & Console patch and RSP for Consoles coming April 28th. Fixes include TDM spawns and more: http://t.co/BZYJeomPlr pic.twitter.com/27TCiY8hmf — Battlefield (@Battlefield) April 23, 2015 The update will include fixes to Punkbuster, Nvidia DirectX drivers, TDM spawns, contains weapon balance tweaks and […]

  • Modders can now earn money through Steam Workshop starting today with Skyrim

    Valve has introduced a new functionality within Steam Workshop which will allow mod makers to earn money for their creations, starting with Skyrim. The update will allow content such as mods, items, or maps to be sold through Steam Workshop for titles which have the feature enabled. A new “streamlined process for listing” has been […]

  • Play Skyrim for free this weekend on Steam and take 75% off while you’re at it

    Skyrim is free this weekend on Steam providing wanna-be Dragonborns who have procrastinated on wetting their blades with Stormcloak blood the perfect opportunity to give the RPG a try. Head over to Steam and download the game and play for free until April 26 at 1am PDT. The game is also 75% off if you […]

  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 “Ember” teaser video released ahead of full reveal

    Activision has released a Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 teaser video titled “Ember” and you can watch it right here. Here’s the video blurb: “In the next 50 years, technological advancements will lead us into a world where only those who risk going too far, will find out how far we can actually go.” […]

  • Dragon Age Keep update includes more customizability and control

    Bioware has updated Dragon Age Keep after listening to community feedback. The update includes more customization and control over heroes, world states, career and more. Players can now customize hero portraits or delete Dragon Age: Inquisition heroes from the Hero section. They can also remove playthrough states from the World State Manager and keep up […]

  • Here’s a look at some Conker community creations in Project Spark

    Conker’s Bug Reunion releases today, and below is a video showing some of the community creations you will be able to download using the creation pack. Project Spark is a free download on Xbox One and Windows 8.1, and you can download the Conker Creation Pack today. It contains 350 assets in order for users […]

  • Rainbow Six: Siege video shines spotlight on the British Counter Terrorist Unit

    Ubisoft has released a Rainbow Six: Siege video which gives you a look at the British Counter Terrorist Unit which features “the best of the Army, Navy, and Air Force.” The firm said that over the next few weeks it will introduce the public to each of the units in the game. Rainbow Six Siege […]

  • Mario Kart 8 DLC and Mewtwo for Super Smash Bros. headline eShop update in North America

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with an update and new DLC for Mario Kart 8 and the Mewtwo DLC for Super Smash Bros. Other highlights include Mario Kart DS on Wii U Virtual Console, the continuation of International StreetPass Week and more. Full update is below. Nintendo eShop Mario Kart […]

  • Square Enix host E3 2015 conference this year on June 16

    With Final Fantasy 15, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided on the horizon, it should come as no surprise to learn that Square Enix will be hosting a dedicated E3 2015 conference this year. The presentation will take place Tuesday, June 16 at 9am PDT/12pm EDT/5pm UK. It will be broadcast […]

  • Final Fantasy 4: The After Years 3D remake releasing on Steam next month

    Final Fantasy 4: The After Years has been given a makeover and will be released on Steam of PC next month. You can now pre-order it on Steam and take 10% off for the time being. The game will be released on the digital service May 12 and will include trading cards and achievements. Thanks, […]

  • This Project Cars video shows off the racer’s multiplayer

    Project Cars developer Slightly Mad has released a new video giving you a look at the game’s multiplayer. The game is out next month, and if you would like to refresh yourself on the tracks included,  give this a look. While you are clicking links, here’s the minimum and recommended PC specifications which dropped last […]

  • Looks like Logitech is getting out of OEM mouse production business [Clarification]

    Logitech will no longer produce “low-end” mice, citing a decline in PC accessories. This story has been updated to include a clarification. According to a Reuters report, per MCV, the firm will instead focus on video accessories and streaming music, as its wireless Bluetooth speakers are now its best-selling product rage. This will help offset […]

  • Win! We have 1,000 Heroes of the Storm beta keys to give away

    Must have more MOBA? Win one of our 1,000 Heroes of the Storm beta keys and see if you’re more Blizzard than LoL. Can’t wait for June 2? Of course you can’t. We have 1,000 closed beta keys for Heroes of the Storm to give away this week, allowing you access before Blizzard’s MOBA goes […]

  • Xenoblade Chronicles X Nintendo Direct airs tomorrow, April 24

    A Nintendo Direct devoted entirely to Xenoblade Chronicles X will air this Friday, April 24. The video showcase will start at 11am PDT/2pm EDT/7pm UK. After the showcase, a new Nintendo Treehouse: Live presentation featuring the game will air. This is the second Xenoblace Chronicles X Nintendo Direct, but the first in English. The first […]

  • Blizzard will have 500 game stations set up at gamescom 2015

    Blizzard is heading to gamescom 2015 in August and it will have 500 game stations set up for attendees to get their hands on five of its titles. The developer will be set up in Hall 7 and those who stop by will be able to get hands-on with the latest content for Heroes of […]

  • PS4 price cut to £299 in UK

    Sony has dropped the price of the PS4 in the UK. For a limited time only, you can grab the console for £299.99 from Argos, Game, Tesco and Very. Go to Amazon.co.uk and you’ll get it for £289. You’ve only got until April 28, then it goes back up to £349. Go, go, go. For […]

  • Mad Max: first ever gameplay footage revealed

    Today, we get to finally take our first look at gameplay from Mad Max. Avalanche and Warner Bros. have shown off the first gameplay trailer for Mad Max today. The trailer below offers a look at melee combat, car combat, customisation and much more. Give it a watch below: There are a few new screenshots […]

  • Overlord: Fellowship of Evil has four-player co-op like we figured

    Codemasters has pulled the veil back on the next Overlord game, and its a four-player co-op game called Overlord: Fellowship of Evil. Rhianna Pratchett is back to write the story. The game may be co-op at its core, but it can still be played single-player. Each of the four playable character have strengths and weaknesses, […]

  • Update now available for Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, Pokemon X and Y

    Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire along with Pokemon X and Y are being updated by Nintendo to fix a few bugs and in-game text. There’s also the possibility of a few hacks and exploits being fixed. Per Nintendo Life (via Serebii), both patches are 250-270 blocks in size, and it’s a mandatory update which […]

  • Side-scrolling cover shooter Not a Hero gets a demo

    Not a Hero, the upcoming game from OlliOlli developer Roll7, has received a demo. The demo for Not a Hero was made available today on Steam. In the game, you play as Steve, the campaign manager for BunnyLord. A time-travelling rabbit who’s running for mayor of London. Think this is an absurd premise? This trailer […]

  • You have until April 30 to export your Green Day: Rock Band tracks to Rock Band 3

    Harmonix has announced that those looking to export their song collection from Green Day: Rock Band into Rock Band 3 can only do so until the end of the month. April 30 will be the cutoff date for anyone who wants to export tracks from Green Day: Rock Band into their Rock Band 3 library, […]

  • Batman: Arkham Knight minimum, recommended, and ultra PC specs revealed

    Batman: Arkham Knight is looking like it’s going to be quite a taxing game. Nvidia has released a list of the minimum, recommended, and ultra PC requirements for Batman: Arkham Knight. Here’s the full thing: Minimum OS: Win 7 SP1, Win 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required) Processor: Intel Core i5-750, 2.67 GHz | AMD Phenom […]

  • Bloodborne patch 1.03 is live, reduces loading times, fixes suspend/resume bugs, more

    Patch 1.03 is now live for Bloodborne. The patch reduces loading times, adds item descriptions to loading screens, and fixes other various bugs. From Software has pushed update 1.03 live to all Bloodborne owners. As promised, it reduces loading times by approximately 5 to 15 seconds. Another new addition is showing item descriptions instead of […]

  • Battlefield 4: first look at Community Map in action

    Get your first look at the map designed by the community of Battlefield 4. Battlefield 4′s community-designed map is a reality. DICE has recently updated CTE to include an early version of the map. It’s not fully textured as Westie is about to show you, but the layout is nearly finalised. Westie goes over the […]

  • Microsoft apologises for uploading misleading Witcher 3: Wild Hunt footage

    Xbox’s YouTube channel uploaded a video of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt yesterday that was captured from the PC build. The most recent gameplay video for the The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt appeared on the Xbox YouTube channel and showed a quest from the game’s opening section. A few minutes after it had gone live, […]