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Wedbush: Wii U is “two years late”

Monday, 13th June 2011 15:01 GMT By Johnny Cullen

Analyst firm Wedbush Morgan has said that the arrival of Wii U has come “two years late.”

“We think that Wii U is arriving two years late, given that the other HD consoles already have peripherals for movement,” said a note from the company, attributed to Michael Pachter, Edward Woo and Nick McKay.

“As Nintendo did not provide any specifics around the new console’s power or pricing, we are assuming that the Wii U is unlikely to provide greater power than the current HD consoles,” it added, referring to comments made by NoA boss Reggie Fils-Aime that footage of third-party games for Wii U were running from PS3 or 360 versions of those games.

“If that is the case, we believe Nintendo has conceded a tremendous first mover advantage to Microsoft and Sony, which launched Kinect and Move control schemes, respectively, in late 2010.”

Followings its full unveiling last week, Wii U launches next year, with a spring or summer release likely.

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32 Comments

  1. Blerk

    I’m struggling to think of a way in which I could be less interested in Wii U at this point. It just looks… pointless.

    #1 3 years ago
  2. Erthazus

    Dreamcast 2 is here.

    Same shit. I could understand that controller would have a multitask feature but no, just a single touch screen… Nintendo still live in the age where internet does not exist.

    Even Playstation Vita have multitask touch screen.

    It’s super pointless.

    and when it launches for 299$ or 399$ 360 and PS3 will be even cheaper.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. alterecho

    At first i totally didn’t like it but now, i think the controller is cool. Like you can have a tactical mini-map on your hands and give commands.

    The Future Soldier demo in the closed developer conference video for Nintendo really helped to change my outlook on the controller.

    The lack of multiple controller support is dumb and lack of multi-touch too. Its powerful enough to run future soldier on full HD but they should have incorporated more for future titles.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. Eregol

    I don’t normally agree with analysts as they all spout nonsense and shit.
    But on this occasions they have got it spot on.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. pukem0n

    Well, Wedbush Morgan is Michael Pachter and he is always right!

    #5 3 years ago
  6. Christopher Jack

    I think the controller would be cool as a tablet or an addon for one but I don’t want a tablet to play on a separate screen.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. El_MUERkO

    The reality is, by being here, on this blog, commenting on the Wii U, we know one thing: WE ARE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE.

    The target audience are the tens of millions of families out there with a Wii under their TV and children who enjoy “teh marios!!!”.

    Pachter seems to think this is Nintendo’s attempt to ‘recapture the hardcore gamer market’, like fuck it is! Did they not see the demo stuff they showed at E3?!

    Sure the system will be powerful enough to run games built for the 360 and PS3 but make no mistake, the players of those games are a tiny part of the market that Nintendo don’t care about.

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Blerk

    All the 8-year-olds my son knows seem to be playing Black Ops these days. :-|

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Stardog

    I agree that it’s 2 years too late.

    If they released a WiiHD a few years ago, they could have had LA Noire, Mass Effect 2, etc, but they’ve missed the boat.

    If you think tactical minimaps will save this, then you’re crazy. Third parties won’t put any effort into utilising the controller’s screen, just like they didn’t with the Wii’s controllers. I think they will still see it as the “side” console, as with the Wii.

    Nintendo’s only hope is their first-party games.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. ManuOtaku

    I think he is wrong, mainly due the fact that is right now that the adoption rate for HD tv is now higher than never before, right now it is aprox. 50%+ rate, going back two years for now i t was not the case at all, adoption rates were struggling to catch the consumers,therefore now is the right time to go with HD consoles, because now is common on the users houses.

    Also if you look at the instaled based of the ps2 130 million aprox., you see that the ps3 it is struggling to get to half of that numbers, which is also almost the adoption rate of HD tv equipment by consumers right now, is this coincidence?, maybe or maybe not, there is almost 70 million ps2 adopters that didnt made the jump to ps3, in the upcoming years they will be doing it as the adoption rates of HD will be getting bigger, therefore i think now is the right time to come with HD consoles, therefore the Wii U will be ok in the consumers eyes, and we dont know yet the power of the Wii U specs wise to tell if it is two years late, we need to have all the variables in the equation to do that.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. ManuOtaku

    #8 please dont said that, it means the our future generation will be lost for sure T_T

    #11 3 years ago
  12. ManuOtaku

    #9, nintendo did survive all this years in all the gens, even with the wii, for their first party maded tittles, and this will continue for sure in all the nintendo life in business, now the question is if they can capture the third party support, if they are able to this, like it seems with this new console, then it will cement their position in this industry, which i hope so.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. Freek

    Nintendo’s strategy has, for a number of years now, been to use existing technology cheaply in new and interesting ways. It’s how the made the Wii, the DS and the 3DS.
    And it means they make money on every single console they sell, rather then MS and Sony who loose money for the first couple years, not to mention the expensive R&D required to come up with cutting edge tech.

    Lets not forget that the Wii and DS sell a metric f#ck ton more then any of it’s competitors.
    You’d think financial analysts would be more aware of this.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. Dralen

    @7 If that’s the case, they should GTFO of our E3. E3 is for the hardcore, simple as.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. HeavenlyGamer

    @ #8, Blerk

    Great joke about letting your 8-year old son play Black ops! Only a fucking retard would let his 8-year old kid play games that involves nothing else but killing people.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. ManuOtaku

    #14, Sorry i do not agree, i think E3 is for gamers of all types , i mean all the people that enjoys videogames.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. Dralen

    @16 Hardcore may not have been the right word. People get a bit angry when you use that word. But who are the gamers that watch E3 at home or go to the press conference? It sure isn’t Nintendo’s target market.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Blerk

    @15, I don’t let my son play Black Ops. Not only because it’s full of killing and stuff, but also because it’s rubbish and I’d like him to grow up with proper gaming tastes. :-)

    This doesn’t appear hold true for most of his friends’ parents, sadly. Their kids are pretty much all playing COD, Bad Company and Grand Theft Auto, not Mario. Mario is, apparently, ‘gay’.

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Gama_888

    Im pretty sure i said this when the Project cafe was first leaked.

    How the hell do i geta job with these people?

    #19 3 years ago
  20. HeavenlyGamer

    @ #18, Blerk

    Thank god you don’t! Yeah it’s sad. Those are usually the kind of parents that bring their kids to MacDonald’s for a proper, healthy meal.

    I’d say, let kids play games like Tetris, games that actually help with the development of your brain (in a positive way).

    Haha, Mario is gay nowadays? I grew up playing those games and had a lot of fun doing so. I also remember being allowed to play video games for one hour, and not even every day!

    #20 3 years ago
  21. The_Red

    @2 / Erthazus
    Do NOT insult DreamCast :)
    That system showed real promise and some great games. Wii U reveal had PS3/360 footage downloaded from the net. Plus, DreamCast had better graphics than N64 and PSone. Right now, Wii U could still be inferior to PS3/360 in terms of graphical power.

    #21 3 years ago
  22. The Evil Pope

    The 360/PS3 are shit. I still haven’t bought any of them.

    I’ll buy the Wii U…

    #22 3 years ago
  23. manamana

    ^ must be hard, living under a stone. On the dark side of the moon. Titan that is, from saturn, right?

    #23 3 years ago
  24. DarkElfa

    The unveiling of the Wii U went about as bad as when Isildur refused to toss the ring into Mt. Doom.

    IOW, they had one change to destroy evil forever and failed, epic style.

    First, they needed power. They didn’t really show they had any. Second, they needed games. They showed a handful of titles. Third, they needed to bring back the core gamer group. I think they forgot that altogether.

    They needed a real controller, a blu-ray player, hard core titles as well as golden oldies as well as free online MP.

    #24 3 years ago
  25. TVs Everywhere

    The reality is, by being here, on this blog, commenting on the Wii U, we know one thing: WE ARE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE.

    You clearly didn’t catch the GT interview with Reggie where he LITERALLY said that they’re targeting hardcore gamers with this.

    That excuse ain’t gonna fly anymore. People just need to admit once and for all that Nintendo has completely lost touch with “us”.

    #25 3 years ago
  26. Clupula

    So far, the Mii Too looks like a complete trainwreck.

    #26 3 years ago
  27. JackTheLittle

    i dont know why people think WiiU’s graphical power is less than ps3/360!
    even if the third party game footage’s was from ps3,thats nat a solid reason.
    to show the power of system they showed some nature demo and probably thats it.its alot better than this gen.plus what make nintendo system & games popular even among core gamers is not graphical power,its their innovative and great games!

    #27 3 years ago
  28. Phoenixblight

    @27

    that nature video has no shading and they didn’t reveal any specs for it so naturally people are going to assume it will be less. If you have nothing to show other than Tech demos and other console footage you are hiding something and really shouldn’t have showed off your non existent system. All they were doing is showing off the new controller.

    #28 3 years ago
  29. JackTheLittle

    28@
    what about zelda tech demo?
    they didn’t show their system fully not because they had nothing to show,but because their new way to play with controller was more important that they only focused on it.and i think they did the right thing but maybe not in the right way!

    #29 3 years ago
  30. Phoenixblight

    What about the demo? It was scripted the Nintendo person playing was like a salesman selling the latest gizmo. The demo was not the focus it was a video thats all it was, there was no control other than the lighting of the level or where the player sees.

    #30 3 years ago
  31. JackTheLittle

    ^if it was to show the system’s graphical power,i think it was good enough.
    even if it was not fantastic for graphic freaks it still will appeal to millions of gamers.

    #31 3 years ago
  32. Phoenixblight

    @31

    No it wasn’t the PR was putting that controller right in the way of the video being shown if they wanted to show the power of the console they wouldn’t use Xbox 360 or PS3 footage or show off a cartoony nature video. Or talk through the video and put the WIi pad in front of the video. THey weren’t showing off what the system would do but showing off their new controller.

    #32 3 years ago

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