Carmack: Wii U tech level “brings it up to parity with other consoles”

Monday, 13th June 2011 07:51 GMT By Johnny Cullen

id tech boss John Carmack has the technology found in Wii U brings Nintendo to a level grounding alongside “other consoles.”

In an interview with GameSpot, he admitted that there was a presentation on Wii U held for all ZeniMax/Bethesda-owned studios before the console’s unveil at E3 last week.

Carmack opted to skip it to finish work on RAGE, but admitted there is now equal footing with the new console.

“The technology level on there brings it up to parity with the other consoles, which is nice for us,” he said.

He added that, whilst it was “not suitable” to bring id Tech 5 to Wii, it was possible to create a RAGE title for Wii using the iOS tech used in RAGE: Mutant Bash TV. Nothing ever came of it, though.

“Previously, the Wii was not a target. Id Tech 5 was just not suitable for the Wii at all. We seriously talked about possibly using the iOS Rage technology that I built for that for a Wii game. It would fit perfectly from a technology standpoint, and I think would have been really pretty cool as a Wii game, but we decided that it wasn’t the right time to jump into the Wii market.

“But now that we’re looking at another platform that is eminently suitable for the technology, I’m sure we’re going to try and bring it up on there. But it will become a market question of do we think that there will be people there that won’t be served by one of the other SKUs?

“If you’re going to have a serious hardcore game on there, the Wii is usually the hardcore gamer’s second or third console. Even if we could have shipped Rage in full glory on the Wii, it probably wouldn’t have made a whole lot of sense because people that want Rage probably also have a PC, 360, or PS3 that could do the game better justice.”

Carmack went on to further add that he’s excited for the touch-screen controller.

id’s next game, RAGE, was recently held back a couple of week to the start of October for PS3, 360 and PC.



  1. dtyk

    I’m really sorry but SERIOUSLY!? Nintendo were wondering why their stocks plummeted because they released a console with technology from half a decade ago?

    Mah gawd.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. triggerhappy686

    Yeh before it was properly shown I was thinking this might have been the start of the new gen but it is definitely not. This is a late entry into the current gen. Overall im quite disappointed, only time will tell though.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. Christopher Jack

    You would expect a next gen console to be setting the bar for the future, not being on parity with consoles from 5 years ago, then again, it is Nintendo, they’ve been like this since the DS & Wii although to be fair, they cater to a slightly different audience than myself.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. PsychoPCG

    @1 It has nothing to do with the stocks drop.
    Nintendo did the same thing last time and guess what ? Has already won the generation.
    Stop being fooled by the spec sheets.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. Telepathic.Geometry

    I’m not much for specs now, but i think that any console that’s released from now on needs to be capable of 720p, 60FPS with AA in any game they release. And 1080p should be an ideal.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. ultramega

    Console sales =/= software sales

    Nintendo hardly ‘won’ this generation.

    #6 4 years ago
  7. drewbles82

    yeh so nintendo finally catch up tech wise next year when sony n microsoft will most likely announce their new consoles for 2013 holiday release and end up even further ahead tech wise.

    #7 4 years ago
  8. DrDamn

    I’d agree with that and even go further than 1080p should be the target not ideal. 30fps/60fps should be a consideration, but the hardware in terms of memory/internal bandwidth/gpu should support 1080p without any serious limitations.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. frostquake

    The way he talks about this and Hints about it, it sounds more like he is comparing it to the iPad 2! IMO.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. IL DUCE

    @4 yeah that’s a joke if you think nintendo won this generation…they had initial sales because it was a new gimmick and had all these gimmicky games for it and never grew out of that phase…just gimmick games and some more zelda, mario, dk…blah blah same old shit…if you look at one of the articles on this site I believe and see the Wii’s sales they have been in a sharp decline after their first year and haven’t increased since…and the touch screen controller isn’t even that original its basically a PS Vita as a controller…like hmmm people like tablets let me just stick some buttons on it and make it a controller like its some amazing device…it may have unique uses but it is in no way as original as the Wii…so in a couple of years we will be saying once again how no one developes for the WiiU because their graphics and processing power won’t be on par with the next gen of consoles…

    #10 4 years ago
  11. TVs Everywhere


    They didn’t “win” this generation any more than Justin Bieber “wins” music just because of sheer sales.

    I wish people would just stop using sales as a simple-minded measurement of platform quality. I hate to break it to you, but the Wii’s the Britney Spears of the gaming industry. Low-powered, low-quality hardware with tons of sales and poor attach rates.

    Quoting sales means nothing to me. If the library is crap and the hardware is a joke I could care less if the console sells a billion units. Suggesting that Nintendo’s right in repeating what they did with the Wii is essentially saying you totally think Britney Spears should continue polluting music because hey, it’s selling like hot cakes! She’s “winning” at music, so what is there to change at all?

    #11 4 years ago

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