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Quick Quotes: Sony on cross-game chat with Vita, no update on PS3

Friday, 10th June 2011 21:48 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

“No, really not any new announcements to put on that. We know that it’s a huge thing out there. We have continued to do much R&D in the area, but we don’t have anything to announce right now.” – SCE Europe boss Andrew House on whether cross-game chat is still planned for PS3 or not despite Vita getting the tech (via CVG).

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  1. Ge0force

    I think it’s just not possible on ps3 anymore. It would conflict with existing games using the audio recording channel.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. Razor

    I don’t understand the point of this feature anyway.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. Ge0force

    #2 Same here. I don’t wanna chatter when playing singleplayer games, it’s like talking on the phone while watching a movie. But I guess it’s important for achievements hunters who need boosting.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. reask

    Razor said.

    I don’t understand the point of this feature anyway.

    Are you for real m8. :)
    Ask any 12 to 18 year old the importance of it.
    Its the new kids on the block who takes this kind of thing as a normality.
    They are socialising whilst gaming.

    Very hard to underestimate the importance of this feature in today’s world and trust me I know as I have 2 teenage children.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. onlineatron

    It’s a shame that the only platform I would consider using this for doesn’t support the feature.

    I don’t pay for Gold on 360, I doubt I’ll play multiplayer on Vita seriously, it’s not what I want from a handheld device; so I’m left with the PS3, that doesn’t support the feature.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. ultramega

    It’s a nice addition for cohesively organizing games with real life friends. I’d like to see it implemented, even though it’s not a must.

    #6 4 years ago
  7. BraveArse

    Not understanding why it’s wanted doesn’t lessen the validity of wanting it.

    This may seem pathetic as fuck, but I don’t care. :) I’m 40, with a bunch of mates around the globe all of around the same age, all with family. Online gaming has become our pub pretty much, and even though I prefer the PS3 I still use Live more, because of that feature. It’s great for jumping in and saying hello, seeing what everyone’s up to and jumping into the same game. Using PSN to organise things when someone is already in a game is a nightmare by comparison.

    It’s not specifically cross-*game* chat that’s important. It’s about not being in any specific game, being able to drop into a chat lobby with a friend who already is in a game and sorting things out by voice rather than send a text message, waiting for your mate to pause, type message back, rinse and repeat. A 30 second process on Live is a 10 minute one on PSN. It annoys the shite out of me, because I’d rather do a lot of my multiplayer gaming on PSN.

    #7 4 years ago
  8. xino

    no update for ps3?
    that’s because the ps3 cannot multitask with that feature, the extra ram were used for XBM, the XBM even slows down because sony used up the remaining ram xmb for game development.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. Kuwabara

    Fuck i hope theres no planned cross chat , it would kill my single player experiences. If you want to party chat, its better to go on home and voice chat, makes the experience more fun. Not while fucking playing single player games.. Oh and brave arse, u should try home..

    #9 4 years ago
  10. Christopher Jack

    I think the problem had to do with one of their major publishing partners but that still remains just a rumour. No idea why they can’t be open about it & tell us why they can’t manage it, even if it can’t work with all games, there are workarounds.

    #10 4 years ago
  11. HighWindXIX

    There are 2 reasons I cannot fathom the desire for this. One, what’s the point? Two, who in the world that has a PS3 doesn’t have a cell phone? Call, text, whatever. Why do you need PSN to do it?

    #11 4 years ago
  12. Ireland Michael

    It would ruin your single player experience? How? Its not like you’re forced into using it while playing a game.

    Its just kids socialising? That’s funny, I’m 29 and I use it almost every single time I’m on Xbox Live. Why? 1) It means I don’t have to listen to annoying 12 year olds or pretentious stoners while I’m playing a multi-player game, and 2) It lets me sit down and shoot the breeze with my local friends when we’re at home and just want to play some games together.

    We have jobs and other typical responsibilities. Calling to each other’s houses isn’t always a valid option, and you can’t really sit and have four or five person chats over the phone.

    Cross game chat is the sole reason I buy most multi-platform titles on the 360. My gaming experience feels awfully… lonely on the PS3 sometimes.

    I guess that’s the burden I have to bear for not being an antisocial, basement dwelling lard-ass.

    #12 4 years ago
  13. onlineatron

    @12

    Hey, I resent that!

    I dwell in a dorm room, not a basement…

    #13 4 years ago
  14. Ireland Michael

    @13 Hahaha!

    #14 4 years ago
  15. Kuwabara

    Cross game chat is the sole reason I buy most multi-platform titles on the 360. My gaming experience feels awfully… lonely on the PS3 sometimes.”

    Why is that?? For online multiplayer games you got time to chat with friends while playing, on the ps3. For single player games, why would u want to chat with others while playing, it ruins the immersion for crying out loud. Do u really need to boast how awesome a game is to someone else while playing or talking about day? And the last thing i want is friends disrupting my single player game or my gf saying lets chat as im progressing through a single player game. I don’t want to have to say NO to them and be a dick. Atleast with typing you can get away with it more. Like i said, if you must talk to friends, get on a session of HOME for awhile before or after playing single player games.

    #15 4 years ago
  16. BraveArse

    It’s not like it’s forced on you, you simply don’t need to use it if you’re that anti-social. What I don’t understand is why the hell choice might be a bad thing. You’re not immediately in cross-game chat, you join a cross game lobby. If you don’t like the idea of it, fine, you simply don’t have to use it.

    And Home? waiting for the latest patch to download, then the area to load up, then finding your mates? Unsure how that beats instantaneous voice comms, when you’re all online for a *multiplayer* session.

    Still, I’m willing to bet you can see the benefit, so I won’t go off on one demanding it cease development, eh? As I said before, not understanding why it’s wanted doesn’t lessen the validity of wanting it.

    edit: To be honest, if it was something that actually did intrude on SP gaming, then I’d be against it too. Fact is, on Live at least, it doesn’t. As I said, you have to actually join a lobby, you’re not automatically in one. In fact all Live comms features are significantly less intrusive in that respect than PSN’s sadly. You can set yourself Away, Busy or Offline something that I really wish PSN had too.

    #16 4 years ago
  17. OrbitMonkey

    Christ theirs a few butthurt ps3 fanboys about. A £40 a year phone service that can be used to talk for as long as you want with any of friends online is a bad idea? Bullshit -_-

    #17 4 years ago
  18. OlderGamer

    Great posts Brave, Michael, n reask.

    I have a son that is headed to the Air Force in a couple of months. We are switching over the Live Family plan, and the idea is to keep LIVE gold for him so he doesn’t have to worry about it while getting started in the AF. The bonus here is we will be able to actualy talk with him, and use Kinect for video anytime we want.

    Its a great feature.

    My kids do exactly what we reasks kids do, they sit there and talk while gaming. Doesn’t matter the game they play. They are just socailizing. Much the same way most of us used to do on the phone or at an arcade or a drive-in/bar/dinner.

    I bet going foward the next PS system will have party chat.

    #18 4 years ago
  19. Kuwabara

    ” Brave Arse”

    The fact that it’s there would mean people would expect you or “want” you to join. I still can’t see the point of it. It takes less than 5 mins to get onto home, and id rather be there in a nice environment talking to mates then staring at a boring screen or while playing distracted. But if u can’t spare the 5 mins waiting time, and u must chat by voice or video, how about having a video chat on the psn or voice chat which supports up to 8 users, more than whats on xbox..

    #19 4 years ago
  20. BraveArse

    “The fact that it’s there would mean people would expect you or “want” you to join. ”

    That’s no different to how it is now. I still get messages and invites to join games, when I’m watching TV or playing SP. If I really feel that antisocial I just sign out of PSN. It really does seem to be such a spurious argument when the addition of cross game chat would in no way affect your gaming experience any differently to the way PSN does now. At least with Live you have numerous options to not get interrupted.

    As for waiting five minutes to join Home, ignoring the fact that wild horses couldn’t drag me back into it or any of my similarly grown up PSN friends, it takes 10 seconds to join a cross game lobby, with minimal interruption to anyone’s gaming. And I fail to see how a video chat would help either, you still to have to arrange everyone to quit their games and log on to the chat room.

    I keep on emphasising the point here is choice. Fine, you don’t see the point of it. That means you’re already well catered for, lucky you. Many others do see the point of it, and it seems like a huge gap that needs filled *particularly when they’re adding it to Vita*.

    Anyway, I’m not trying to convince you. I’m not hating on PSN – the PS3 is my most used console as I don’t do SP/story games on the 360 really. I’m simply pointed out a glaring flaw in what is, after all, a free service ( if you ignore the price paid for the console in the first place that is ).

    #20 4 years ago
  21. lexph3re

    The fact that all four of you just ran a matter of opinion as facts is hilarious. Each one of you act like it crucial to have cross game chat for multiplayers and use teen gaming as a example is laughable. You make it seem like their all playing different multiplayer games when we know its they all play the same thing. Is there not a voice chat enabled in online games already? Or how about the fact that og makes it seem like you can only use live to video or conference chat to stay in touch with his son?

    Does ps3 not offer video conferencing. Or am I playing with an invisible option? A lot of these. Peoples points were they don’t prefer crossgame chat because of their single player games. So, that automatically makes them anti-social? What a pompous assumption on your behalfs. You guys jumped in defending lives oh so can’t live without xchat but clearly as you are on one side of the fence there are others who occupy the other side.

    If you want to video chat or conference chat you can do it on ps3 as well and execute games together from the chat into the game so you can create a room. It isn’t as much of a hassle as you make it out to be. Lives cross chat does have some benefits but its not the end all for a service. Especially seeing how most people already. Play the same games in multiplayer.

    Also, cool vitas getting x chat that will definetly increase the social prospects of the portabledevice.

    #21 4 years ago
  22. Christopher Jack

    @21, Ah, finally! Somebody speaking some common sense.

    #22 4 years ago
  23. OrbitMonkey

    I’m a ps3 only guy, but even I can see how great cross game chat is. Maybe cuz I see it as a easy to use phone service I could plug into whilst watching a movie, playing a game whatever. No real difficulty other than pausing, sending an invite to party chat & then going straight back to what I was doing.

    And party chat, thats something Sony could do with. No need to pause every othet muppet in the lobby. These thi.gs may sound petty to the Sony faithful out there, but good tech is good tech.

    #23 4 years ago
  24. Christopher Jack

    As I’ve stated earlier, I don’t really care if we get cross game chat on the PS3, I’m not the most social guy but I do want Sony to directly address us with the reason why they can’t give us X-game chat, I’m going to assume that it’s a RAM problem, probably the same reason we can’t listen to music.

    #24 4 years ago
  25. BraveArse

    *sigh* one more time.

    If you don’t want it – good for you. *Fact* is some of us do. Why should that be a problem? I haven’t used teen gaming at all in my posts, maybe you should read them. In fact I’ve used quite the opposite, as did Michael.

    As a user of both machines I’ll state again, one more time. I find it simply much easier on Live, that is a fact. That fact being that *I* find it easier. It’s a *fact* that makes it a no-brainer to get my non-exclusive multiplayer games on xbox live, the same choice that most of my mates make too.

    The main thrust of all of our “pro-cross-game-chat-fanboy” posts has been that the feature would not affect single player games. That the discussion has now spawned a tribal anti vs pro cross game chat argument among people who all use the PS3 is frankly ridiculous. Some people are way too defensive.

    And as for anti-social, yes, if you don’t want social contact then you’re being anti social at that point in time. I’m like that quite a lot. :) That’s all I meant by it, pomposity was not part of the deal.

    Anyway, this discussion is no longer fun, it’s just a string of facepalms. Laters.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. Christopher Jack

    @25, You assume that just because I don’t care for it that I won’t accept it. To me, it’s like getting a pair of socks for Christmas, I won’t reject it & will likely use it but it doesn’t even rate on my wish list.
    I think that it’d be stupid to say that I don’t want an OPTIONAL feature on the PS3, the way I see it, the more options, the better, it’s why I like Windows & Android over Mac & iOS respectively.

    #26 4 years ago
  27. lexph3re

    @bravearse read. Comment 4 in case you didn’t get the wider audience that the comment was directed to. My *fact* was your *fact* is a matter of *opinion* when it comes to xchat. Have I oi directly said xchat wouldn’t be a good option? No I didn’t, I said the assumptions everyone made towards it isn’t valid for an arguement and will be an opinion and preference.

    #27 4 years ago
  28. KL

    what does social life has to do with gaming?seriously.Being social or not doesn’t count in front of a screen and a controller in hand.Social life is out in real life.
    one might say that rarely has the time to meet friends,so Messenger,skype,cross game chat are the ways to go?
    How about turning the off button once in a while and spare some of that free time meeting with each other instead?that’s where real social life kicks in

    #28 4 years ago
  29. Kuwabara

    Well xbox 360 is more about the social aspects than gaming. While on the ps3 however it focuses more on the games and exclusives, thus no need for x chat. I really pity those who chat during single player games on xbox 360. You buy a console to game, not chat. And theres always the option to mute people if they’re annoying during online games. Would your lives be less better had microsoft not announced cross chat? If the feature comes to ps3, the immersion of games will be lost to many casual players out there who dnt game often and will be caught up in the whole damm craze. The last thing i want is sony following microsofts footsteps, to the point where the put gaming and exclusives behind, hell even a dent in the way things are going at the moment.

    #29 4 years ago
  30. Erthazus

    Anyway, who really want Cross Game chat on PS3 must know that because of 256 Mb ram (GDDR3)

    you won’t get it ever. PS3 is very bad when it comes to multitasking. Thats so 1998-2001 to be honest.

    and thats the reason why they can’t make decent changes with XMB. The best you can get is a simple OS that looks like a Web Page. Because it’s the most basic and the best you can get. People that likes homebrew have even serious problems installing Windows 95 not to mention make it working LOL :D

    Thats really shows how Sony developed it’s console. Through Kutaragi’s ASS.

    #30 4 years ago
  31. Kuwabara

    And thats why erthazus your a dumb xbox fanboy. You’d rather chat than play games lol.

    #31 4 years ago
  32. ExxonValdez

    So much anger in you…lol nah I’m just kidding xD but yeah erthazus have fun on your half ass game console that has little to no games.

    #32 4 years ago

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