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E3 BULLETCAST II – The winding down video edition

Thursday, 9th June 2011 09:31 GMT By Patrick Garratt

We appear to be over the peak. Head inside for more video opinions of this year’s E3 and a round-up of the headlines and media from yesterday’s show.

Here’s some reactions on E3 as it starts to wind down:

Here’s the feature content sent back from our journalists in LA in the past day:

Here are the major headlines since yesterday:

The press conferences:

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27 Comments

  1. Patrick Garratt

    I struggle a bit at the end to name stand-out E3 games, but I was very impressed with Battlefield 3, which I didn’t mention. I don’t see a game doing more to further the genre right now, and it has amazing tech.

    #1 3 years ago
  2. Patrick Garratt

    And Uncharted. Basically: Skyrim, Battlefield, Uncharted, Vita, RAGE, Tomb Raider, Dark Souls, Ass Creed, Far Cry, Mass Effect 3. I reckon Skyrim will sweep Game of the Show generally. I love Modern Warfare, but when I saw it in the MS demo my instant reaction was, “I’m not sure I can play this again.”

    I’m sure I will, obviously.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. AHA-Lambda

    I have to agree with MW3 pat.

    I’m sure i’ll play it and i’m not a massive CoD hater like most people on here but seeing it at E3 i have to admit I was quite frankly bored =s
    My pre order is certainly cancelled for now.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. Patrick Garratt

    I just couldn’t get excited by it. It’s the same format. I’m sure it’ll be as mental and as exciting as ever, but it’s just so familiar now that I’m not sure I “need” to play it. I know what it’s going to be.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. AHA-Lambda

    yeah that sums it up pretty well.

    I watched the GT 10 minute demo and all i saw was mw2 again. Its a rental to me now =s
    BF3 will have my money day one now tho ;)

    #5 3 years ago
  6. Blerk

    Great to hear your thoughts, Pat – I’d pretty much agree with all of that.

    It’s been a ‘solid’ E3 for games, but far from ‘exciting’. I can list lots of things that look great and I will certainly be looking forward to buying, but there’s been no real ‘WOW!” moment, very little new IP, everything just feels like an iteration on something that’s been done before – sometimes many times (like in the case of Assassin’s Creed, CoD, etc.).

    The Vita and Wii U reveals didn’t really ignite the internets, and the platform holders announced practically NOTHING for the future, which was really very surprising. I was expecting at least Sony to dump out half a dozen or so new things.

    All seems indicative of an industry that’s treading water rather than progressing. Perhaps Erthazus is right, maybe it’s time for us to start thinking about moving on to the next generation?

    #6 3 years ago
  7. Patrick Garratt

    Battlefield was brilliant. That’s what it needs now. It all needs to move on. I’m genuinely excited about playing that game.

    #7 3 years ago
  8. mojo

    “one of the weakest e3 in years”
    absolutely.

    “doing a podcast after the show with the team”
    absolutely!
    looking forward!

    Game of the show?
    puh.. hard one.

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Patrick Garratt

    Blerk – The tech’s just looking old now. PC hardware’s starting to look like the only route forward if you want to move on from five year-old tech. And we’ve got years to go yet. I mean, all the games I mention up there really do look awesome on the current gen hardware, but we’ve seen the best of it now. I can’t help but look forward to the next consoles, to be honest, and I just really hope there’s a sea-change innovation with the next Sony and MS tech. Can’t believe how flat this week was in terms of overall excitement.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. Schindet Nemo

    This is the reason why BF3 will outsell MW3

    http://i.imgur.com/KQhHE.jpg

    #10 3 years ago
  11. Erthazus

    Of course it’s time to move on. Just look at E3. It’s stale now. No one can’t surprise us, gamers.

    Battlefield 3 was a lucky one, just because they had a PC demo with the latest Frostbyte engine 2 which is going to be used for the next generation consoles in full potential. I’m excited for it to try the maximum out of it this year.

    We really need to let go PS3 and Xbox 360. No matter how some of the gamers feel about the need or… not (because of their empty wallet).
    E3 this year showed that we need new Next Generation.

    Vita was a fresh little thing, but it’s not enough.

    Yeah and i completely agree with Pat on the Modern Warfare 3 demo: “I played this before” feeling is there.

    Even Uncharted 3 is… Well, not very impressive now. SKYRIM is also with updated Gamebryo engine which looks a bit better, but not so much as people expected it to be.

    #11 3 years ago
  12. Blerk

    I don’t think it needs to be this way, though. There are plenty of ways to innovate with the existing hardware, but we seem to have fallen into a holding pattern – pretty much the only games getting the go-ahead are sequels to things which already sold well or titles which are designed to be similar to things which already sold.

    Can we blame the state of the economy for that? Probably so, in part. But I think publishers have lost their balls for trying new things for the most part – possibly because gamers themselves appear to have become wary of buying anything which seems a little different.

    So much marketing effort is going into so few titles that there’s precious little left to promote the new and innovative. And bizarrely it’s the games which are already guaranteed to sell that get all the money! This is complete arse-backwards. How can they complain that new IPs don’t sell when they sneak them onto the shelves with no fanfare while pumping millions of dollars into Faceshooter 12?

    Perhaps the thing to do at this point is to start reducing RRPs a little in order to encourage people to try different things? Or to put more effort into more innovative XBLA/PSN titles with smaller budgets and price tags? Microsoft’s XBLA stuff from E3 was great, but was basically a side-note alongside the big-budget sequels.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. Patrick Garratt

    I can’t argue with any of that. And yes, I do feel discs are too expensive, but I just can’t see why they’d come down, especially as retail’s being hit so hard by online sales now. But I think that’s a great comment, yes.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. StolenGlory

    @12

    Great post. It’s interesting you should mention about the XBLA stuff being of such quality for MS. My friend who bought a 360 *solely* for XBLA (if you can believe such a thing), does not buy any bonafide 360 games at all; he seems quite content to download and play XBLA games and nothing else. Indeed, when he talks about the 360 that he owns, he referrs to it as the ‘Xbox Arcade Machine’. Mind you, he does smoke a metric ton of weed, but that is neither here nor there :)

    Still, his behaviour raises an interesting point: Could you sustain yourself *solely* on MS’ XBLA offering?

    #14 3 years ago
  15. Blerk

    I guess the question is, is a generation change actually guaranteed to fire imagination any? The Wii U announcement hints “no” – everything announced is an iteration on or port of something that we are already familiar with.

    Of course, the Wii U isn’t ‘super powered’ compared to the current gen, but would more power automatically equal better games? I’m kind of suspecting that we’d just get Faceshooter 13 with even shinier shinies, even with much improved hardware.

    Without a change in how publishing works, I can’t imagine next-gen being a silver bullet for the industry’s current sticking points.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. Patrick Garratt

    I know quite a few of the “old guard” that say in private they only things they play personally now are £6 XBLA games, such as Pac-Man and Limbo. There are a few notable journos that have completely given up on discs.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. Mike

    See, I think the industry is being innovative, we just don’t like it. Kinect, whether we like it or not, is innovative and takes the interactive experience in a new direction. Wii U, same. Also Move is forcing devs to think of new and interesting ways to interact with a game – but again, we just don’t like it.

    Oh, and that coupled with the fact that motion/scanner isn’t as accurate as a pad, really doesn’t help the industries’ case.

    But still, the innovation’s there, we just don’t like the direction it’s going in.

    IMO, obv.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. onefivefive

    Some very good points Patrick. I for one believe that we’re not gonna see any new AAA IPs until the next generation of consoles.

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Blerk

    I don’t think different control methods are the answer, Mike. It feels like the arcade industry did back in the early to mid 90s when consoles started eating into their trade – throwing peripherals at the thing to try and deliver something that the other guy can’t. While that’s certainly innovating in some ways, it feels like a sticking plaster rather than a cure.

    My favourite innovations of the last few years have come from the likes of XBLA and the PC’s indie gaming scene. Bizarre stuff that’d never make it as a $60 disc.

    Look at something like Portal – that’s an excellent example of innovation breaking through. But would that ever have made it if it wasn’t published by Valve and bundled with a bunch of well-known shooters? Mirror’s Edge is in the same category, but didn’t perform anywhere near as well.

    It’s not only the publishers to blame, something needs to be done to get the gamers themselves out of their ‘I’m only buying stuff that I know’ mindset.

    #19 3 years ago
  20. mojo

    10:
    looool
    thats hilarious

    #20 3 years ago
  21. OrbitMonkey

    I think the industry really needs to face up to the fact that their largest demographic are 25-35 men who god forbid have actually matured a little.

    Sure teh kidz can still be pleased new graphics, but I’ve been playing through the same games for over a decade.

    I’m not saying I want a slew of gimmicks, but some intelligent writing, decent scripting & appealing characters would go a long way.

    Damn i’m starting to sound like. my dad :(

    #21 3 years ago
  22. OlderGamer

    “I just couldn’t get excited by it. It’s the same format. I’m sure it’ll be as mental and as exciting as ever, but it’s just so familiar now that I’m not sure I “need” to play it. I know what it’s going to be.”

    To me this speaks volumes. Its why I am so jaded and seem to never seem to have anything good to say. You get to a point where it bleeds from just Franchise fatigue to Industry fatigue.

    There are just too many game companies trying to make the same damn game. And as such they are offering esentialy the same type of experiences.

    And graphics don’t help. The more photo realistic graphics get, the worse the situation will be. There is little room for improvment as it is. A Dodge Viper is going to look the same in every racing game – just like its picture. The samething happens in nearly every genere. It removes any sense of unique style.

    Thats why I only play BF games and not CoD games. I don’t need more then one game of the same type, look, and feel. I don’t need CoD, Brothers in Arms, MoH or anything else like it. I pick the ONE I like most, and roll with it.

    Same is true for almost everything. But that means I have very little to pick from. Because the store shelf is filled with the same ole game experiences.

    As for XBLA. Yes. I go through times where I play Arcade style games almost exclusivly. VC, Steam, PSN, and Live Arcade. Alot of fun and best of all not a lot of investment. Good combo.

    Next is PC. Not because the games look nicer(and they do, even on my modest rig), but because they offer gameplay experiences that are more mature and have more depth. Thus they hold my interest longer. For example Civ V, I am rounding 500 hours played. I can’t think of a console game I last did that on. Actualy I can Phanstay Star Online. But no games this gen, I typicly can’t even finish most games this gen.

    And its not just Civ V. Titan Quest has seen me sink the same type of hours into it. Then there are games like Rift, WoW, Mythos, Guild Wars, EQ, DiabloII, Age of Empires, and more.

    The console side of the industry is not in a rut because they can’t create higher levels of graphics. They are in a rut because they refuse to create better, deeper, and more mature levels of content. They are focused on surface level pick up and play well known franchises that they can then sell DLC with.

    I read a few years back that the average age of a xb gamer was 36yr old. I am way past 36. I understand that I may well be on the older side of things. However it would be nice if the console pubs could get a clue and understand that the bulk of the market is no longer 15 yr old males.

    In ending, maybe these are amoung a few reasons why PC gamers are growing in numbers.

    #22 3 years ago
  23. OlderGamer

    I do get long winded don’t I? ;)

    Anyways, wanted to give a nod to Pat and staff, this E3 might not be the best ever, but your sites coverage has been outstanding.

    Good job and thnxs.

    #23 3 years ago
  24. Blerk

    I totally agree with you on the ‘photorealistic’ front there, OG. I’d love to see more games trying unique visual and art styles. Imagine what an HD Okami could look like?

    #24 3 years ago
  25. LOLshock94

    far cry 3 surely has won something and i think driver 3 has won something but the biggest price goes to skyward sword truely amazing

    #25 3 years ago
  26. OlderGamer

    It would look yum.

    Prolly not going to be a cool thing to say, but graphical style is one of the things I enjoy about picking up the Nintendo made stuff.

    #26 3 years ago
  27. KAP

    Ironic that you think this years E3 was weak, yet this years the best for gaming? with so many triple AAA titles.

    Assassins creed is what it is. A Bloody video games. Geez.
    Luckly ive seem all the conferences and 15hrs of footage of E3 this week and all i can say, theres alot of games to get excited for mate.
    Also you consistantly talk about what other people is thinking about games, I wanted to view your video for YOUR opinion not others.

    This years E3 done it for me.

    #27 3 years ago

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