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Modern Warfare 3 shown in London – shots, impressions

Thursday, 26th May 2011 13:00 GMT By Keza Macdonald

Activision officially pulls the curtain back on what will almost inevitably be the biggest game of the year. New screens, gameplay details.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

Out November 8 worldwide.

Joint development between Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer Games.

Follow-up to Modern Warfare 2, UK’s best-selling game of all time.

Kept closely under wraps since West and Zampella’s controversial sacking from Infinity Ward

Rather than waiting for E3, which by the looks of it is hardly going to be short on fucking HUGE announcements, Activision has decided to show the next instalment in the unstoppable Call of Duty franchise a few weeks ahead of time. In a North London studio on Monday, Infinity Ward’s Robert Bowling and Sledgehammer Games’ Glen Schofield took to the stage together to demonstrate

Of course, Modern Warfare is particularly interesting this year because of the ex-Infinity Ward execs versus Activision wrangling that’s been plastered all over this and every other website since the middle of last year. Then there’s the collaboration with Sledgehammer Games, which also raises an eyebrow. What direction will these two studios take the series in? Are we going further down the setpiece-heavy action movie Modern Warfare 2 route, or will this new title reclaim the tension and relative seriousness of the original Modern Warfare?

On the evidence of this reveal demonstration, we’re definitely looking at the former. What we saw was heavily, heavily scripted, all-action setpiecing – but good lord, these are some impressive setpieces. As the latest trailer shows, Modern Warfare takes place in cities all over the world, from Paris to New York, London and, from the looks of it, Berlin. We saw what looks to be the opening level, set in the Big Apple, before being transported to Canary Wharf for a second mission.

“All-out war”

Modern Warfare 3 picks up immediately after the end of MW2, with the world in a state of all-out war. The level opens as the player pulls himself out of a crashed helicopter on a New York street amid the familiar, cacophonous noise of gunfire and explosions, as a nearby sergeant screams at him to get out of the wreckage. Our first glimpse of the city is a vertical view up to the sky, the sun blooming between skyscrapers as the helicopter door is forced open – then we’re chucked some ammunition and told to make our way to the stock exchange.

Modern Warfare 3 picks up immediately after the end of MW2, with the world in a state of all-out war.

As our demonstrator fights his way through the streets and buildings of New York, recognisable landmarks like the Crown building and the stock exchange itself stand out a mile. Enemies take cover behind boardroom couches, jewelery store counters shatter under gunfire as he sprints out into the street from a department store, and a copter, broken blades still spinning, is lodged in the side of a skyscraper.

This, along with the dirtied American flags drooping over the wreckage and the blown-out cop cars littering the streets, is powerful imagery, designed (rather like Homefront’s) to get right at the heart of America’s power complex. It’s all narrow street combat, as befits New York’s close, vertiginous streets and grid-like layout.

“Powerful imagery”

On the roof of the stock exchange, our demonstrator uses a Reaper drone to clear the rooftops around of enemies before leaping onto a fast-departing extraction helicopter. What follows is a ridiculously high-octane air battle, with the player holding onto the mounted machine gun as the pilot waves around towering skyscrapers, evading the missiles of pursuers.

We couldn’t help but notice at this juncture that the actual buildings, despite being hit with missile after missile from this airborne firefight, displayed no progressive damage – not so much as a bullet-hole. At one point in particular, when the fight centered around a skyscraper still under construction, the plastic netting, steel constructs and random materials seemed entirely unbothered by the constant stream of bullets, until a helicopter crashed into it and everything promptly ignited.

Eventually, our own copter was hit, sending it spinning downwards and bashing into buildings whilst our demonstrator hung out of the door by his fingertips. It’s worth mentioning at this point that MW3 is as good-looking as you’d expect, the lack of dynamic destruction notwithstanding. Schofield mentions that it’s running at a constant 60fps, which is not difficult to believe.

MW3′s first gameplay trailer from earlier
this week.

The next mission is set in London’s Canary Wharf, and starts out as a covert operation before exploding into a full-on assault on the docks. This being London, it’s rainy, dark and atmospheric – the tall buildings of Canary Wharf’s skyline tower blearily in the background, their lights blurred through the damp.

There’s support from helicopters, whose sweeping searchlights cut through the gloom to illuminate enemies (who don’t seem to have much of an instinct for cover or self-preservation, incidentally, but in this series, they never have.) Sniper lasers, too, penetrate the darkness – this is hardly a one-man war.

It’s the conclusion of this section that provides the demo’s most impressive set-piece of all, a chase after tube train full of enemies down the sprawling tunnels of the London Underground. Manning the mounted machine gun on a truck, you’re in hot pursuit, veering wildly out of the way of oncoming trains and trying to avoid mowing down the fleeing passengers as you zoom past a platform.

You can catch a glimpse of what happens next in the trailer – the tube train explodes, flies off the rails, and proceeds to demolish what looks like half of the structural support of the Underground. It really is a hell of a spectacle.

It’s interesting to see FPS developers moving en masse towards urban combat as opposed to the dusty desert-style battlefields that have been obsessing them for the past few years. There’s an undeniable black thrill to seeing such iconic symbols of modernity torn apart by war, to fighting in a setting that’s familiar.

The battle ahead

Here’s the question we’re all thinking about, though: is it as good as Battlefield 3? DICE’s shooter definitely had the more jaw-dropping reveal demonstration, showing astonishing destructibility, tense pacing and serious graphical grunt that the Modern Warfare 3 demo did not match – but then it was running on a PC the size of a Shetland pony. What Modern Warfare 3 shows us is gameplay running on a console, locked at 60fps – Battlefield 3 isn’t possibly going to be able to do that.

This MW3 demo also had the edge in terms of sheer full-on sensory assault – stuff never stopped happening for a second. (Given that Modern Warfare 2 knew how to change the pace up at least a little, though, we can assume that the finished game will give us a little more time to catch our breath.)

This is the first year in a long time where we’ve had real, tooth-and-nail competition at the top of the shooter ladder. Activision has a lot more to worry about here than they did with Medal of Honor last year. When Infinity Ward/Sledgehammer and DICE start putting their multiplayer cards on the table, this is going to escalate into an all-out war for the shooter-fan dollar.

And let’s remember, that’s extremely good for us. It will drive creativity and change in a genre that, let’s be honest, hasn’t really been known for either of those things in a while. It’s going to be an interesting year.

Modern Warfare 3 ships for PC, PS3 and 360 on November 8.

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71 Comments

  1. NightCrawler1970

    I was wondering how much money Acti gonna put down, to make sure it will sells like hot-cakes on the market when the game will be released???

    #1 3 years ago
  2. DSB

    That certainly sounds familiar. Is Schofield actually leading development on MW3 Keza?

    It’s a common complaint we only get 5-6 hours worth of gameplay every time, but personally I’m more than done after 4, with all the crap popping up and exploding everywhere. Especially on the higher difficulties where you tend to hit the dirt quite a bit.

    PS. Gotta love those crappy placeholder weapons in your HD screenshots :P

    #2 3 years ago
  3. monu-mental

    You know, it’s a shame that I usually login to VG to stop folks like DBS who only seem to hate on the COD franchise. If you love BF then good, but the COD hate as arrived to an all time high, and the more you look at it, the more you realize the hate’s coming from Battlefield fanboys who are just so butthurt that Modern Warfare 3 will once more leave DICE’s efforts in the garage.

    Listen, if you love BF, then cool. I do too. But this COD hate’s ridiculous – and you know what? It’s only going to help the game break yet another record that it’d set before.

    I’m done.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. Lounds

    No need to swear Keza

    #4 3 years ago
  5. monu-mental

    Agreed with Lounds…lol. Great piece, though.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. Patrick Garratt

    I’m adding in links to previews elsewhere for you at the bottom there.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. Maximum Payne

    I really cant wait to see MP because that will ultimately define fate of MW3

    #7 3 years ago
  8. StolenGlory

    @3

    DSB doesn’t hate COD though.

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Erthazus

    @3, DSB, doesn’t hate Call Of duty franchise.

    PS: anyway, from a trailer perspective and with fake Russian voice acting from teasers…

    I expect nothing special. So, everything depends on the multiplayer right now.

    Infinity Ward|Sladgehammer promissed bigger environments, destruction. I will believe it when i will see it.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. Deacon

    @8 – I sure do.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. StolenGlory

    @10 Did you used to be a COD fan but got bored of it or did you simply just not enjoy it that much in the first place?

    #11 3 years ago
  12. KAP

    So errrr, lemme guess?

    Its there job to hold this preview event to pursuade the journalists who originally thought that MW3 is another one of the same BS Micheal Bay setpiece after setpiece shallow arse game to a battlefield 3 contender?

    And its vg247s job to pursuade us with the same bollox right.

    Save it. Please.

    I’d LOVE to see MW3 full on its arse come release, and Battlefield 3 take all the coins. Please god make it so…..

    #12 3 years ago
  13. Exzeerex

    CoD was good when it wasn’t mainstream and bloated with a shitty graphics engine. I’ve been playing CoD since the first one in 2003. CoD: MW wasn’t all that mainstream, but MW2 sure did change that… And not for the better.

    Fact is, I’m not tired of CoD. I’m tired of what ignorant popfags and Activision made it to be.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. Fin

    I intend to buy both MW3 and BF3. Sweeeet!

    #14 3 years ago
  15. Erthazus

    @13, i still remember the first one. Best Call Of Duty singleplayer campaign period.

    Best singleplayer moment was with the Stalingrad battle level. At it’s time ID Tech 3 was impressive and everything looked really gorgeous and fantastic for it’s time.

    With each installment later it’s worse and worse and everything ended with WAW and MW2.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. DSB

    Monu-mental indeed.

    I think MW2 is pretty much the best multiplayer shooter since BF2 (or since CoD4, if we’re being cheeky) and I tend to make that fairly clear. The fact that I like a particular game doesn’t mean it’s above criticism, and does in no way obligate me to like any other game vaguely tied to it, like the piece of crap that is BLOPS.

    Nor does it mean that I adore BC2. I think it’s a fairly sloppy effort that mostly gets doted upon for being the underdog, and having a grandfather that was pretty awesome. I got my money’s worth playing it, but nothing more than that.

    Take a chill pill, and what not.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. Talkar

    @15
    I actually think that the first CoD was quite buggy. However i loved CoD2.
    Holy shitfuck have i spent a lot of hours on that game x)

    #17 3 years ago
  18. OrbitMonkey

    More than happy to be playing in a more urban warzone, a European warzone at that.

    #18 3 years ago
  19. StolenGlory

    @16

    Being more than a bit ‘CoD’ ignorant these days (I enjoy the game, but haven’t really kept up with it since the CoD 2 days) and you being someone who obviously enjoys the game a fair bit, what was so fucked about BLOPS that it made a great many folk revert to MW2 in your opinion?

    #19 3 years ago
  20. G1GAHURTZ

    Sorry, but there is no competition.

    None whatsoever,

    Even the biggest CoD hating BF3 loving fanboy in the world knows it deep down inside.

    End of story.

    #20 3 years ago
  21. DaMan

    All i recall from the original one are bugs, asinine AI, crappy animations and dull shooting range fest.

    #21 3 years ago
  22. StolenGlory

    @20

    No competition? In what sense do you mean? Sales?

    #22 3 years ago
  23. G1GAHURTZ

    Sales.

    Metacritic.

    Most played charts.

    #23 3 years ago
  24. Moxifool

    @20

    Yes you are right; there is no competition – BF has always been the better quality and superior game. We have known this for sometime and as such; it is high time you mindless CoD loving mouth breathers get with the program.

    #24 3 years ago
  25. stretch215

    I think mw2 was horrible. Suppressors on lmg’s? Overpowered shotguns SD SECONDARY weapons? Give me blops any day. @4 this is the not a kids website, you don’t want swearing watch some t.v. , and after that fuck off :)

    #25 3 years ago
  26. Erthazus

    @20 you are correct. There is no competition between Call Of duty and Battlefield franchise.

    Because gamers know what will be better this year :D BATTLEFIELD 3

    #26 3 years ago
  27. StolenGlory

    @23

    Hmmm. Isn’t BF:BC2 actually a point higher than Black Ops on the 360 according to MC?

    No competition according to sales I agree with; primarily due to the postive word of mouth that series has coasted along on since CoD2 onward; before fully exploding when CoD:MW1 arrived.

    And ‘most played’ charts, would tie almost directly into the above.

    For the record, I don’t even believe that Battlefield 3 will sell as well as MW3; but for people who love BF it doesn’t really matter. So long as the game sells well (and it will) and the servers are consistently full (which they will be) people shouldn’t really be too bothered if it doesn’t clock 12M plus in sales.

    #27 3 years ago
  28. stretch215

    @ 24 I play a lot of cod but I will DESTROY you in battlefield As well. Also, superiority is an opinion. Insulting people for their opinion is uncalled for.

    #28 3 years ago
  29. StolenGlory

    @28 Agreed. I enjoy both games, I just happen to prefer Battlefield because it suits me better in terms of what I want from an online shooter.

    #29 3 years ago
  30. el duderino

    Reading the comments is…amazing! Although i don’t agree there’s no competition in metacritic,it’s just amazing to see gamers(who are mostly above average intelligence)just ignoring that money makes the world go around.Sometimes i wonder if it’s just me since i study economics or are you guys being immature?…Yes bf is good for multiplayer,it is the king bla bla(it really crushes the cod’s multiplayer on some aspects)
    But FOR F**K’S SAKE accept that cod crushes bf3 at sales department.Cod buyers are idiots and will buy anything popular or what’s being fed to them,whatever just accept it man.I saw bf3 trailers,watched/read interviews.But after seeing a single trailer of MW3,i realized history will repeat itself.Soooo,keep playing your bf or whatever you enjoy.Just stop defending a video game that you have no connection to.

    Good Luck on your long journey of denial and hatred.

    #30 3 years ago
  31. stretch215

    @29 exactly. I don’t know why some people hate either game. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Bashing a game on the ‘net is just a waste of time and energy. I will be enjoying both games upon release.

    #31 3 years ago
  32. DrDamn

    @27
    “And ‘most played’ charts, would tie almost directly into the above.”

    It’s not just tied in to sales though. Take a look at the most recent XBox Live currently playing stats. MW, MW2, WaW and Blops are all in the top twenty still. People buy ‘em but they also keep playing them too – for a very long time.

    I’m another for preferring the BF series but the success of CoD is not just down to clever marketing. It ticks the right buttons for an awful lot of people.

    #32 3 years ago
  33. G1GAHURTZ

    @ Stolen:

    Yes, but BF:BC2 was trying to compete against a 4 month old MW2, which smashes it by an entire 6 points.

    Treyarch’s games have never done as well as IW’s when it comes to Metacritic.

    #33 3 years ago
  34. M. K.

    @30: Reading your comments I hardly doubt that you are able to study economics :D

    #34 3 years ago
  35. Erthazus

    @30, Sales are not the quality. For F. Sake.

    I really don’t care about sales, because i won’t get a CENT from them. So why should i care about Bobby Koticks money? Why should anyone care about it?

    someone goes to watch Twilight movies and their sales are impressive. So what? That does not mean that Twilight is a masterpiece or a king of Movies.

    #35 3 years ago
  36. StolenGlory

    @32

    Oh yeah for sure. I had a discussion about this with DSB the other day. As an extremely focused, twitch-based frenetic test of FPS skill, without the additional burden of vehicles, destructible environs and so on, I can see why so many people adore it. Not only that, but I also accept that it is far more accessible than BF too (since if you don’t have a decent team in the latter, you will be FAR more penalised than in the former. Not to mention of course the fact that CoD has always had free-for-all modes which lend itself better to instant play to begin with).

    @33

    This is true and again, this sort of ties in to what I mentioned above in so far as any ‘BF-lover’ with even the most blinkered view can’t realistically deny the fact that CoD is simply the more accessible title. Period. As a result of this, I have always personally believed that this has played a significant part in the critical praise the series receives.

    You make a good point actually with highlighting the disparity between the Treyarch and IW games in relation to their critical scoring. This actually brings me onto thinking how well MW3 will score given the fact that it isn’t just IW’s baby anymore. I’m sure it’ll still do admirably, but as good as the MW1/MW2 hayday? We’ll wait and see I guess :)

    #36 3 years ago
  37. freedoms_stain

    Why is the 1:29 trailer repeatedly referred to as “gameplay trailer” There’s maybe 10 seconds all in (if that) of anything that looks like gameplay.

    #37 3 years ago
  38. el duderino

    @35 Yeah they are not.But they’re the fuel of entertainment.If it goes like this,every fps will try to copy whatever’s the financially most successful at the time.Did bf series ever have scripted sequences before? (not counting bc 1&2 but even they hardly had any) Well as all of you know bf3 will have more than a few.That’s keeping up with the industry.Like over the shoulder camera being the tps standard after re4.

    If you say single player doesn’t matter that much,well you’re right and BF3 will pull of mp really nice and smooth……for serious gamers.Casual shooter player who play games just to relax after a boring/long day or to have fun with friends will buy cod series and what you know and need to fully embrace is,that serious gamers are near extinction.That’s why bf3 will not sell nearly as good as mw3.Not because mw3 is better,but because the audience for bf3 is getting smaller and smaller thanks(!) to apple’s mobile business model.

    I too would like to see games like bf3,braid or independent movies be much more successfull(in real world,we call success ”money”) than they are currently;but that’s not the world we live in anymore and never will be.Just like communism perishing completely this century

    #38 3 years ago
  39. G1GAHURTZ

    @ Stolen:

    Indeed.

    This is the first post walkout release from IW, so they have a lot to prove.

    It certainly is ‘wait and see’ time, rather than the usual certainty of quality, for MW3, which we might have had prior to the walkout.

    This is Acti’s flagship title though, so while there may be doubts about the new triple studio set up, I’m pretty sure they’ll give it the kitchen sink treatment.

    #39 3 years ago
  40. minxamo

    @1 i’m jealous of whoever manages to sell 5.6 million hot cakes in a day…

    #40 3 years ago
  41. DSB

    @StolenGlory There were a lot of differences between BLOPS and MW2. I can only speak for myself, and I haven’t studied things like the exact weapon damage in BLOPS, so I can’t say anything about that, but in MW2 everything was geared towards pitting player against player, with only the actions of either really playing into who won the day.

    In MW2 the maps were essentially divided into three compartments, with three avenues going through them, which meant that while one team would usually be able to make an impenetrable chokepoint in one or two avenues, the opposing team could usually flank around the third, and get them off-guard. That keeps the game moving, and means that if you’re the guy succesfully flanking, you can have a huge impact on the way a match is going.

    The weapons were extremely precise as a whole, and the weapons you started out with essentially just had “older brothers” in the upper tiers. The M4 was 90% identical to the ACR, the SCAR was 90% identical to the TAR-21, and the FAMAS was 90% identical to the M-16, with the damage being essentially the same, but the accuracy being slightly offset. That way you had something to play for, without feeling like cannonfodder when starting from scratch. LMGs and SMGs were somewhat different, but they all had relatives in the other categories, making for some excellenct balance.

    That meant that you were always competing on the same footing. You had weapons like the G18 which was very unbalanced, and shotguns had some pretty bad lag, and pistols were boring, but ultimately there were ways around all of that if you were familiar with the weapons and their limitations.

    BLOPS was the same old thing you get anywhere else. They added more recoil – and more critically – dispersion to the weapons, which meant that suddenly you had an element of randomness, and like most other developers, they designed maps to be as pretty as they were functional. That’s impossible to balance, just as it was in the original Modern Warfare, where one side would always have the upper hand on terrain at the beginning of the match.

    They also made the maps bigger, which made spawning harder to control, whereas in MW2 you’d almost never spawn in “enemy territory”. And for me personally, I think it’s also a bonus to simply press a button and be playing the game you want to play within seconds, without having to sift through a sea of servers.

    Then there are killstreaks. It seems to me like the people who hate them are usually on the recieving end. Personally I think it’s a great reward for playing well, and that’s not there in the same way in BLOPS.

    #41 3 years ago
  42. Noodlemanny

    Anyone remember how I said those leaked shots of the MW3 symbol and the cover were real? Anyone want to point out I was right? Anyone want to point out to all the others that they were wrong?

    #42 3 years ago
  43. Hybridpsycho

    DSB, stop spewing loads of shit please.

    To anyone here, sure you can enjoy Modern Warfare 2 ‘n Black Ops. But fact of the situation is that ALOT less time was put into these games than should be, they were poorly created with a crappy story and a horrible engine that should’ve been updated some time ago.

    Anything related to “Modern Warfare” was tossed out the Windows the second they started having Generals walkin ’round with Revolers, Snowscooters jumpin across 100m cliff-openings and just overall ridiculous and not at all connected to reality shit.

    Modern Warfare (CoD4) kept it all just close enough to reality not to fuck us over ‘n turn it all into sci-fi.

    CoD 2 has by far the best Multiplayer in any of the game, the new is just bollocks with idiots runnin around getting kill-streak rewards that are just as stupid as the players themselves.
    CoD4 had 3 different kill-streak rewards, how do they innovate that? Add 20 or so more that are just meeeeeeeeeh and doesn’t even make sense in any way.

    To anyone thinkin it’s just Battlefield Fanboys hatin on CoD, me ‘n alot of people I know didn’t start playing Battlefield for reals (maybe on occasional LAN’s) until Bad Company 2 was released, we said “fuck off” to CoD since CoD basically said that to us PC gamers.

    Sure, now I might be a Battlefield Fanboy, but that’s the Dev-teamm/Publishers of CoD’s fault :)

    #43 3 years ago
  44. Dralen

    I hate COD! There you go I said it. I used to adore the series but no thanks to Activision, the series will now be bled until it’s veins are sapped dry, just like it does with every successful series it owns or owned. I’m pretty sure that’s what is going to happen to Bungie’s next game too.

    Don’t get me wrong it’s a fantastic formula, but we’ve seen 4 games now with the exact same gameplay and graphics (4!!!). How it is possible to not get bored of that I don’t know, especially considering the amount of hours most people put into it everyday. But for me, I struggle to play the multiplayer for more than 10 minutes before I have to stop. The sad thing is, at the rate this franchise is going, more and more people will grow to hate it because clearly that is what is happening.

    #44 3 years ago
  45. M. K.

    `more and more people will grow to hate it because clearly that is what is happening.“

    Do you live under a rock? The exact opposite is happening.

    #45 3 years ago
  46. Erthazus

    I don’t hate COD, but i hate the development team behind that franchise, because they clearly can’t do shit. They are at the level of Polish developers (except you CD Projekt. You are awesome.). The only impressive stuff were only soundtracks since MW1… Hans Zimmer is awesome

    Everything else: Bad coding, bad support, bad engineers and programmers, horrible writers, fake russian voice actors. Bad in almost everything.

    and the most impressive stuff is coming from a PR team that makes fantastic trailers after you want to buy a game.

    Formula in COD titles is great. Old School QUAKE 3 arena arcade running and gunning gameplay in modern warfare setting, but it’s freakin stale with just +20 killstreaks.

    If you want your game to be good, innovate and go further. Not just stay in one place.

    #46 3 years ago
  47. Dralen

    @M.K

    Yes, of course you’re right, because clearly everyone on this site love’s Call of Duty.

    In fact just to prove my point, go to any site that has user reviews for Black Ops, and check out all the negative reviews from people that are just hating on the game.

    #47 3 years ago
  48. Fin

    STFU

    #48 3 years ago
  49. Cozzy

    I swear this is the COD4 engine…again.

    #49 3 years ago
  50. Maximum Payne

    I agree with Erth they need to start to inovate like they did it with Cod4.But hate it as long as you want but MW2 is in one hand innovative.Spec Ops mode,Chopper/ac130 in mp,thermal,lot of attachments,re-design perks and create a class…

    #50 3 years ago
  51. deadstoned

    Spoliers:

    Here’s your objective: Blah blah blah blah, Secret Base. Blah blah blah land. Blah blah blah Nuclear missile blah. Blah blah blah counting on you, utmost importance, win, good luck.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_msAKWdOs

    #51 3 years ago
  52. ManuOtaku

    I do prefer Battefield BC II, for me is the best multiplayer FPS game, with halo reachComing really close , and like so many before me stated, i dont hate COD, i like it a lot too in the past, for me the best on the singleplayer and multiplayer front was COD 2, since then it became almost the same thing whitout any innovation, especially in the last four games, i dont see this changing with MW3, therefore i will not buy it, and i will buy Battlefield 3, but if i see in some reviews that theres something new and with a little touch of innovation then i will try COD MW3, but like other put it i blame activision for this,is the way they work, and thats the reason why the thing with IW happened last year, they didnt want this to the COD franchise, i mean repeat the same thing year after year, whitout anything new to say.

    #52 3 years ago
  53. DSB

    I fail to see any kind of point in the babble you just posted Hybrid Psycho, except for the fact that I suck – Or something. Which is great.

    I was being pretty specific, and those elements are easily verified by anyone who cares to play those games. What you choose to prefer is none of my business, I was simply offering my personal view to StolenGlory, as for why Black Ops has managed to lose a very large part of its players to MW2 after an otherwise impressive launch.

    In my case it’s because Black Ops is more of a conventional shooter, whereas MW2 is geared towards being competitive.

    #53 3 years ago
  54. M. K.

    @47: Why the hell should I? I just look at the sales and see that on every guy who flames against CoD there are atleast another 100 who love and buy it :D

    #54 3 years ago
  55. G1GAHURTZ

    @47:

    You have no point, because the sales figures prove you wrong.

    If “more and more” people were hating the game, it wouldn’t keep breaking all the sales records.

    Indeed, the opposite is true.

    More and more people are coming to the game and more and more people are buying it each year.

    It’s just people with petty grudges, like elitist PC gamers, who feel the need to hate on the entire franchise because of a lack of dedicated servers in a 2 year old game.

    Don’t forget the people with inferiority complexes who just hate the popular choice because they can’t handle the fact that people that they loathe for some entirely irrational reason are really happy when they play the game.

    The fact that the vocal minority might be constatnly speaking out, has no bearing on what the majority are feeling.

    #55 3 years ago
  56. Dralen

    Fair enough guys, you have your opinion I have mine. But I would bet money that this franchise will not last. Just like Guitar Hero. Also sales figures mean nothing in this day and age, there’s plenty of average/poor games and film’s out there with huge box office numbers.

    #56 3 years ago
  57. Gekidami

    @51
    You know whats really funny about that?; Its actually a lot closer to the plot of Bad Company 2 than any CoD game.

    #57 3 years ago
  58. G1GAHURTZ

    Fact: Acti believe that they have a winning formula.

    They will not ‘innovate’ a single bit until they feel the need, and they almost certainly won’t feel the need until sales start to decline.

    They’re a business at the end of the day.

    Just like Coca Cola, KFC and whatever else have had the exact same recipe for years, so will Acti continue with the same engine and the same gameplay until sales start to become a negative issue.

    At that point, they’ll probably try to innovate, and if that fails, they’ll just drop the CoD brand and go for something else.

    That much is clear from their past actions.

    This article points out that competition helps to make games better for the gamers, but I don’t see BF doing that, because they’ve been trying for years and not really come close.

    I reckon that Respawn Entertainment are the only devs with a real chance of killing CoD off.

    If they come out with a new engine and the classic CoD4 gameplay, I’m sure we’ll see a new FPS king.

    #58 3 years ago
  59. M. K.

    @56: It’s not about your opinion. It’s fact: Hate it or love it, the sales are exploding :)

    #59 3 years ago
  60. xino

    7/7

    #60 3 years ago
  61. DSB

    I still reckon that CoD will have to reboot at some point. No matter how solid your gameplay or your brand is, you’re going to have to upgrade somewhere down the line.

    My guess is Sledgehammers own title is going to give them the room they need to implement a new engine.

    #61 3 years ago
  62. Dralen

    More and more people buy it so more and more people hate it, exactly, my theory is proven :P.

    #62 3 years ago
  63. Fin

    Jesus would you all just shut up, nobody cares about the CoD/BF pissing match.
    Both games have people who enjoy them, both games have people who hate them, both games are going to have high sales, deal with it.

    STFU

    #63 3 years ago
  64. Bloodyghost

    Call of Duty.

    The Copy Pasta game franchise that still wows many of us rational gamers as it sells more then the better games of the year.

    When will kids, MLG “PROFESSIONALS”, and immature teens learn.

    #64 3 years ago
  65. M. K.

    `more then the better games of the year.`

    Oh yeah? Tell me only one shooter that had better Gameplay/Performance over the past four/five years?

    ps: It’s a rhetorical question ;)

    #65 3 years ago
  66. manamana

    If anyone is a prototype CoD player, than its gotta be jaieazy: hilarious fun for real!

    #66 3 years ago
  67. M. K.

    I kinda like this guy :D

    #67 3 years ago
  68. DSB

    @64 So somehow deciding that everybody playing a certain game have to be kids and immature teens, based on the fact that you don’t prefer said game – Isn’t childish?

    Haaaaah. Okay!

    @66 I can’t decide whether I love that, or prefer the European way (total eerie microphone silence)

    #68 3 years ago
  69. ZephyrWarrior

    “inevitably be the biggest game of the year”, bs, Battlefield 3′s gonna own MW3, end of story.

    #69 3 years ago
  70. manamana

    @DSB The European way is more pleasing, while I find jaieazy’s version much more entertaining! At times that is.

    #70 3 years ago
  71. polygem

    @52. same here. bfbc2 and reach are the top mp fps this gen on consoles so far – annnnd cod 4. i play cod4 right now and i really enjoy it (again). played all the cod´s and enjoyed them all. cod4 is my mp cod hero – it just has the very best maps imo and is balanced well. i enjoyed the hell out of blops as well. mw2 was kind of broken imo (killstreaks, shotty problem etc) but still a good game – didn´t keep me hooked for long though…..i believe bf and reach are the much better, much more thought out games though.but i need that more fast paced, arcadish cod gameplay as well from time to time – it´s very challenging for competitive play and i love it. the gameplay is superb – it´s just cod. to me this is videogame history. good gaming memories. nothing bad to say about cod at all. it´s repeating over and over but i like what´s repeating there a lot. i´m a shooter lover. i will never be able to resist a good shooter – i will most definitely buy both of these two beasts anyway and i can´t wait.

    #71 3 years ago

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