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Report: New disc format for Xbox 360 adds 1GB of space

Wednesday, 30th March 2011 15:58 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

A “highly placed” development source close to Digital Foundry has said that the “updated Xbox 360 disc format,” being tested by Microsoft will add 1GB storage for the console’s game discs.

The maximum space for game data on 360-discs currently stands at 6.8GB with 1GB of the 7.95GB dual layer DVD alloted to anti-piracy and other security measures. Digital Foundry believes the video partition has “either been drastically reduced or omitted completely in the new format Microsoft is looking to roll-out.”

Those who are accepted into the beta of the preview program are getting Halo: Reach as a test disc-reward, and will obviously contain whatever format Microsoft is testing. Since users’ Xbox 360 DVD drive could be from either Samsung, Hitachi, Benq or Liteon depending on the model’s year – it’s no wonder the firm is looking for “multiple thousands” of testers.

Reach itself took up 6.6GB of disc space, so DF believes “ether padding or additional content will have been added to this new edition,” or data is being allocated to areas of the disc “the video partition would have previously occupied.”

Developers would appreciate the extra 14-15 percent disc room, obviously, but it might also be a way for Microsoft to implement new anti-piracy measures.

“MS will introduce XBG3 – this will add more AP checks, CVI (content integerity) checks, increase the disc size and adds a new layer for protection issues – all in the 20500 sdk,” said Xbox 360 DVD firmware hacker “Commodore4eva”, before adding “bring it on.”

Likely someone will spill the beans soon once the discs start rolling out to users.

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  1. G1GAHURTZ

    HAHA!

    Blu-ray is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than that!

    LOL!

    #1 3 years ago
  2. KAP

    Sony: “Look, Microsoft. Would you like us to give you our 25Gb bluray disc with bluray drive to use.”

    Microsoft: “No… No thank you, we’ve found a disc that will let us sqeese an extra 1Gb of memory. We call it……. Poo-Ray”

    Sony: “lol”

    Microsoft: “woosh”

    Apple: “Dics-formats…. Pah” *counting all the money*

    #2 3 years ago
  3. Blerk

    Face-palm on standby!

    #3 3 years ago
  4. Gama_888

    @2 made me lol

    #4 3 years ago
  5. ManuOtaku

    I just want to point out that few games on the PS3 uses all the capacity of the blue ray, most of the games use only a small percent, so i dont see the point in laughing at this, besides the games look almost the same on both formats DVD and Blue ray. o_O

    #5 3 years ago
  6. drewbles82

    MS dont wanna invest in blu-ray as theres no point, its not gonna last for a start.
    HVD can hold 500gb and is said to be out the next yr or so.
    No point adding a blu-ray drive to the xbox when they are working on the Nextgen consoles.
    NextGen is gonna be harder to judge tho with what to go with. Digital downloads only or the latest format which will prob be Hvd.
    Already a lot of ppl download and a lot of the game developers want it to be download only to cut down on piracy, pre-owned etc as they loose a lot of money.
    Doing digital only from my point of view would be a very bad idea as it would mean only ppl with the net can get games and not everyone wants to play online. I have a terrible connection and our ISP limits you to 4gb a day, go over and they cut your speed for the week, so it would take me two weeks to even download a full game.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. Cygnar

    This is good news. More room for content on 360 discs means the possibility for more content in multiplatform games. However, this will probably not stop people bitter about only having one HD console from turning this story into a disc-measuring contest, if you follow me.

    Space limitations can be awful. While Crysis 2 is a technical marvel on consoles, especially given that this is Crytek’s first outing on either HD platform, the experience is marred due to the high degree of video compression obvious in all the game’s FMVs–there is significant artifacting in both console versions. On the other hand, cutscenes occupy the majority of Killzone 3′s 42Gb footprint in order to prevent compression from being noticeable. The extra space doesn’t translate to richer gameplay, but it can mean higher-quality assets. One more gigabyte on the 360 disc could make a world of difference in FMV sequences, etc.

    I recall space considerations becoming an issue in the development of Capcom’s Lost Planet 2 and Id’s Rage. These are multiplatform titles, friends. Space limitations for one platform become space limitations for everyone. So maybe it would be a better idea to look at the possibilities rather than focusing on restraints. You’re missing what gamers have to gain from all this.

    #7 3 years ago
  8. RandomTiger

    @7 Well put.

    #8 3 years ago
  9. theevilaires

    Does this mean 360 won’t hold back PS3 when it comes to having the original content on the disc rather than DLC?…

    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1070312p1.html

    http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-360-lost-planet-2-content-due-to-space-limitations-164191.phtml

    http://www.ps3blog.net/2010/02/19/a-significant-amount-of-content-cut-from-lost-planet-2/

    http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7288

    #9 3 years ago
  10. Erthazus

    I can’t believe that 95% of the world are idiots.

    This is an APRIL FOOL JOKE from Microsoft!

    #10 3 years ago
  11. albo88

    i dont get it why are this developer so lazy to make the fucking game in to 2 DVD DL i know for fact that even 4 dvds DL are still not as expensive as a blue ray disc
    in Greece the original DVD DL or white disc how you call it cost very very cheap and it come from china
    by the way MS is not doing shit against piracy cos there are verbatim DVD DL that can hold 8.5 gb

    #11 3 years ago
  12. albo88

    #9

    that’s a bushiness tactic it has nothing to do with limitation

    #12 3 years ago
  13. M. K.

    I don’t know which post makes me laugh more, 9 or 11 :D

    #13 3 years ago
  14. wiozan

    @6
    HDV? Have you even looked at reading rates on that thing? its like 120mb/s for a TB capacity thats the twentieth of the speed of a proper hdd with the same size, thats really really slow.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. Hybridpsycho

    @10
    Would make sense, it’s not april 1st yet tho is it? >_>

    #15 3 years ago
  16. jeremycafe

    @6, HDV will not replace DVD/Blu-ray for movies/games.

    1. There is no need for that much space.
    2. The cost is unreasonable for any practical uses in either mediums

    @14

    “HVDs will have a storage capacity of 3.9 terabytes (39,000 GB) and a data transfer rate of 1 GB/s, which is at least six times more than the speed of DVD players”

    You are reading info on competitors to HVD.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. bluffbluff03

    I think its okay. They are still improving thei disc formats. That they did not trust in BluRay might have been a mistake…but this Generation it would be senseless to support a BluRay integration for the 360…..

    #17 3 years ago
  18. theevilaires

    jeremycafe said: “HVDs will have a storage capacity of 3.9 terabytes (39,000 GB)

    Ummm sir thats wrong I believe the correct calculation is 3.9 TB = 3,900 GB (in simple terms) not 39,000 GB. 1024 MB = 1GB, 1024 GB = 1TB (in proper calculation terms)

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Wesker

    I’m fine with that, if the load times (of the disc itself) aren’t much longer.

    Can’t say that for a Blu-ray …

    #19 3 years ago
  20. jeremycafe

    @18

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
    http://www.tech-faq.com/hvd.html

    I didn’t write the article. I was simply copying a line from the one he referenced. Hence the quotation marks.

    #20 3 years ago
  21. jeremycafe

    @19 Do you actually ever find yourself waiting for a period of time that felt too long? None of my blu-ray players take longer than expected to start my movies and the PS3 loads up just fine.

    #21 3 years ago
  22. roni1175

    As a PS3 owner I think its great. Multi platform games will be better with more storage available for game developers

    #22 3 years ago
  23. jeremycafe

    @22, when has the storage space EVER limited PS3 port compared to a 360/PC?

    Yes, DVDs are becoming a bit tight on space, but it has not happened. Companies can still use multiple discs if they feel its needed. I would be happy if Microsoft adapted Blu-Ray as well, especially with next gen. But statements like that are just absurd.

    The only way HVD would benefit over Blu-Ray in that sense is that it could store both the platforms versions on one disc – but that would never be desirable.

    #23 3 years ago
  24. Dr.Ghettoblaster

    All this back and forth talk is silly.

    It’s a good idea from Microsoft, should have been tackled years ago, better for developers, better for consumers, and the testers (me) get a FREE copy of Reach?

    What’s not to like?

    #24 3 years ago
  25. Wesker

    @21: It’s just that I’m not used to “load times” when watching movies, y’know?
    I know there is the pirate warning and stuff, but an actual spinning BD + logo that tells me “Wait, I’m loading!”, was not what I expected when I bought my Blu ray player.

    It’s not killing the joy of HighDef for me, but it’s … something that needs time getting used to, I guess.

    #25 3 years ago
  26. AJacks92

    If it’s for security purposes, then sure. But squeezing and compressing video is unncessary…360 had like 2 or 3 discs for FFXIII. No biggie.

    Lol @ MGS4 when Otacon told Snake to switch to disc 2: “Oh wait! We’re on PS3 system! It’s Blu-ray disc! Dual-layered too – no need to swap.”

    “Damn it, Otacon, get a grip!”

    xD

    #26 3 years ago