Fri, Jan 21, 2011 | 16:35 GMT

Rumor: Sony to implement PC-style serial key system for PS3

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A source close to PS3-sense is claiming Sony will introduce a serial key system for PS3 games, like the one already in place with PC games.

According to the site’s source, this is Sony’s way of closing the backdoor to its system, which was blown wide open by hacker GeoHot earlier this month.

The source said that new games released for PS3 will include a unique serial key related to the specific disc, which then must be entered for verification before the game can be played. The key can be entered up to five times before it becomes useless.

If true, this has at least two implications for genuine consumers: it will restrict how many time a game can be authenticated, not to mention the impact it will have on used PS3 game sales.

Sony has supposedly already updated PS3′s firmware with the new protection system, and is working on implementing it with new games coming out.

Older games without serial keys will, of course, still work the same.

We’ve sent a mail to Sony asking for confirmation.

Via TechEye.

Thanks, Robo_1.

43 comments

#1

Dr.Ghettoblaster
21/01/11, 4:32 pm

Hmmmm. I don’t like that I’d be limited to five times.

What if my hard drive breaks, or I upgrade, more than 5 times? I’ve already upgraded twice. 3 more installs for my entire lifetime?!

Also, what about rentals?

#2

Erthazus
21/01/11, 4:35 pm

There is no point in that system AT all.

When system was fully broken, they can hack that serial key.

#3

Stephany Nunneley
21/01/11, 4:35 pm

Okay. Edited. Links put in, and updated.

#4

Psychotext
21/01/11, 4:36 pm

I posted it in another news item, but this seems very similar to the patent that showed up before the PS3 was released:

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/08/playstation-3-wont-play-used-games/

#5

varsas
21/01/11, 4:39 pm

This will only really work with games requiring online play; games can still be hacked to not require authentication.

#6

Crysis
21/01/11, 4:40 pm

Maybe, if you have to enter a key, it could be smart to lock the key with the disk so that the individual disk can be used unlimited times but you have to reenter the key every time you put it into new console.

#7

Uncontested
21/01/11, 4:40 pm

Can someone please kill this geohot faggot already so Sony stops making shit more difficult for everyone?

#8

Dr.Ghettoblaster
21/01/11, 4:40 pm

@5
I don’t care about hacking, this is a major annoyance for genuine consumers!

#9

JonFE
21/01/11, 4:41 pm

They could kill more than two birds with this stone: copied games, second-hand games and rentals.

#10

albo88
21/01/11, 4:41 pm

that’s a real good idea as psn is free online like pc

#11

theevilaires
21/01/11, 4:43 pm

SONY you’re stupid. Enough said.

#12

AHA-Lambda
21/01/11, 4:46 pm

oh jesus christ draconian drm is here on consoles the end i nigh!!! D=

#13

Psychotext
21/01/11, 4:48 pm

“Can someone please kill this geohot faggot already so Sony stops making shit more difficult for everyone?”

It’s well past Geohot now. He hasn’t really done anything since the initial key leaks and the “scene” has moved on in leaps and bounds.

#14

DuckOfDestiny
21/01/11, 4:56 pm

Sony, you’re now good buddies with Valve.

Ask them nicely if you can just scrap your current system and use Steam.

#15

OlderGamer
21/01/11, 4:57 pm

tbh I was wondering why they didn’t do this a long long time ago, across all systems.

You put your number in, it syncs with your profile, and won’t work ONLINE w/o it syncing.

Nothing you can do for offline sp games. They shouldn’t need a code to work. But this could drasticly cut down on second hand game sales for online MP games. Might get rid of or replace EA online pass and such.

What does this do for rentals?

I know ea games have limited online passes for renting. I think it allows you to play for a short period, then requires you purchase the game/use the code in booklet.

I don’t see why the samething couldn’t work for renting.

Thing is, and maybe I am missing something – how does this directly help sony or the PS3?

#16

G1GAHURTZ
21/01/11, 4:59 pm

They should just use cartridges in combination with a USB hardware dongle…

#17

MrBambinoDent
21/01/11, 5:00 pm

This is what we get from hackers and pirates.
May them all burn in hell

#18

pukem0n
21/01/11, 5:03 pm

well, want to have a good online system without all that crap?

get an xbox :D

#19

Dark
21/01/11, 5:05 pm

18@
No,sorry i’m a HARDCORE gamer.

#20

OlderGamer
21/01/11, 5:07 pm

@19

No your not, if you were the name and logo on the piece of plastic encasing the hardware wouldn’t matter to you.

Your not hardcore, your a loyalist, pretty big difference really.

#21

G1GAHURTZ
21/01/11, 5:08 pm

@ 19:

Then why aren’t you playing games right now, instead of writing on the internet?

#22

varsas
21/01/11, 5:09 pm

@8: I don’t think it’s that annoying; most people will not need to enter the code more than once. In fact if the serial number is linked to a PSN account then there isn’t even the need to enter the code for multiple reinstalls.

#23

Dr.Ghettoblaster
21/01/11, 5:12 pm

@22
I don’t mind entering the code, I just don’t like the 5 time max limitation mentioned in the article.

“The key can be entered up to five times before it becomes useless.”

There’s a good chance with hardware failure and upgrades, this will be used up and this scares me that I won’t be able to play what I payed $60+ for in the distant future.

#24

NeoSquall
21/01/11, 5:13 pm

Now console players will know what it feels like for PC gamers.

Also, this system could be good if the key was also bound to my PSN account, thus not requiring other authentications

#25

Blerk
21/01/11, 5:23 pm

This is officially ‘not very good’.

#26

OlderGamer
21/01/11, 5:26 pm

Ya know what springs to my mind Doc?

Xbox One. I bought a fair amount of the arcade games that came out here in the US. I also invested in games like Mechassult and a stable of other online games. But now those games and services are gone. MS pulled em when they felt it was time to focus on their newer system and its games. They restrutured LIVE and the arcade offerings, leaving me to rebuy the same games in order to even play em(because inorder to use xbox one arcade games they had to verify with the online servers to even launch).

What I learned, really, was that I don’t own anything. None of us do. We simply buy the rights to use the games via the liscensing argreements. The rights to pull the plug or alter the service and or that contract always stays with the holder(Sony/Nintendo/MS/EA/Acti/etc).

Its their show, we just buy tickets.

I think Sony will refine their system if they go forward with something like this. Like Crysis said, prolly will be linked to your PSN/profile/account. Prolly only enter the number once and prolly will have unlimited acsess to it so long as Sony wants to keep the service going.

I used to collect games. I have a wall long book case with shelf after shelf of old games. Now I see how foolish that is. Not only does old hardware wear out with even normal use(I am replacing my Dreamcast this weekend), but in the case of modern day gaming, they are very much dependant on online services being provided.

Really it makes me feel as if there is little left to collect.

I say bring on the cloud subscription based stuff, let me play and be done with it. Less hassle, more games, less price – no book case needed.

#27

Dr.Ghettoblaster
21/01/11, 5:44 pm

OG,
Good insight. I too have a very much valued (personal value) of video games going all the way back to Atari 2600. It’s the non-online, mainly the cartridge ones, that I feel safe in knowing as long as the materials hold up, I can play these games with my someday grandchildren if I so desire.

I think it really sucks that with the integration of online and digital distribution in gaming, we seem to be losing such rights in the long term.

#28

Rhythm
21/01/11, 5:58 pm

Heh, I called this the day of the hack. Won’t make a slight bit of difference to piracy (in fact it might even encourage it) but it’ll kill pre-owned stone dead.

In a move that will piss off 360 owners too, Acti and EA will make sure this requirement is carried across to 360 too

#29

blackdreamhunk
21/01/11, 6:02 pm

ps3 was hacked a long time a ago

#30

DSB
21/01/11, 6:09 pm

DRM is a declaration of failure. You’ve failed to preserve an attractive market for your products, and it’s supposedly being devastated by free copies, which are ultimately more reasonably priced according to your former marketshare.

Pirates might be vicious and arrogantly selfrighteous in copying IPs as systematically at they do, but I genuinely think the problem is with the publishers themselves.

I caved and bought two Games for Windows Live titles during the Steam sale – One HAD to be restarted no less than 4 times in order to complete updates to the DRM before it would play, the other had to be restarted 2 times. I left it at that and played something else, out of sheer spite.

That’s such a completely ridiculous failure, and a gift to pirates everywhere, because they sure as fuck don’t harass their users anywhere near what these systems do.

I have no sympathy for pirates and I won’t validate them by using torrents, but they’ve never had a stronger or more obvious justification for doing what they do. As an honest consumer you’re just being inconvenienced more than I can remember in almost two decades of gaming (except for very few shortlived, draconic measures) and you’re paying the exact same price for it.

Not that the same thing applies to consoles, that are usually pretty convenient DRM machines for all involved.

#31

Hunam
21/01/11, 6:15 pm

If this is true it will tank all the progress sony has made in the last year and a half. Utter catastrophe awaits them.

#32

G1GAHURTZ
21/01/11, 6:24 pm

“I have no sympathy for pirates and I won’t validate them by using torrents, but they’ve never had a stronger or more obvious justification for doing what they do.”

Being inconvenienced is no justification to steal anything.

Theft is theft.

Theft of a luxury good that you wouldn’t miss one bit if you lived your whole life without even hearing about it, is inexcusable and unjustifiable.

#33

topdoog1
21/01/11, 6:27 pm

Rumors are still rumors.

#34

G1GAHURTZ
21/01/11, 6:34 pm

Actually, if you think games are bad.

Have a look at this.

Apple doesn’t even want you to see inside the product you’re supposed to own.

#35

sebbie16
21/01/11, 6:38 pm

Gamefly will be screwed with this then. No point in renting a game if it can only be used 5 times.

#36

Filofax
21/01/11, 6:47 pm

@34 Wonder how long it will be before we start seeing Pentalobular screwdrivers.

#37

G1GAHURTZ
21/01/11, 7:04 pm

Days, probably.

#38

Bond James Bond
21/01/11, 7:53 pm

Sony lol.

#39

Anders
21/01/11, 8:00 pm

#40

Cee
22/01/11, 10:40 am

One of the reasons I jumped ship from PC gaming, when I decided to purchase a PS3 …was to escape all the PC bullshit copy protection methods.

#41

NeoSquall
22/01/11, 11:59 am

@40 Thank the pirate faggots who decided to jump ship to PS3… to escape all the PC bullshit copy protection methods.

Heh.

#42

Cee
22/01/11, 3:55 pm

ok

#43

Psychotext
22/01/11, 4:02 pm

“Days, probably”

The security bit set I have already has those. They’re not actually new, they’re just very rarely used.

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