Fri, Jan 14, 2011 | 09:59 GMT
Geohot being sued over PS3 jailbreak for “making Sony mad”

George “Geohot” Hotz has overnight defended his jailbreaking of PS3, saying he’s being sued by Sony for “making” the company “mad”.
Speaking on G4′s Attack of the Show last night, Geohot said that his jailbreak has set “precedent” after his previous victory in jailbreaking the iPhone for the first time.
The iPhone hack challenged the law related to such hacking in the US and found it legal, according to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).
“Currently the difference is the DMCA says specifically mobile phones, but the same precedent should apply. If they decide a phone is a closed system, where the manufacturer controls all the software that runs on it, if you can Jailbreak one closed system, why can’t you Jailbreak another,” he said.
“Right now, still legally, you can go to my website and download my Jailbreak for your PS3.
“It lets you install homebrew applications, which have been developed by anyone. You can develop your own application or go download some and put them on your Jailbroken PS3.”
Hotz insisted that his jailbreak was not to be used for piracy and said he made a “specific effort” to make sure it was considered not to have done so.
“The way piracy was previously done doesn’t work in my Jailbreak. I made a specific effort while I was working on this to try to enable homebrew without enabling things I do not support, like piracy.”
Asked why he was being sued by Sony, Hotz said it was for “making Sony mad”.
And when asked at the end what was coming next, Hotz joked that PSP2 was on the list.
“When does the PSP2 come out? No, I’m kidding,” he said.
Sony issued a restraining order against GeoHot and hacker group fail0verflow this week for publishing the console’s root key, which has apparently exposed the hardware once and for all.
Yesterday, it was reported that jailbroken PS3 systems could be banned even without PSN access.
We published a broad piece of the recent spate of PS3 hacking yesterday morning, featuring insight from analyst Michael Pachter and Braid developer Jonathan Blow: read it here.
Watch the full Attack of the Show interview below.


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#51
OlderGamer
14/01/11, 5:07 pm
@Holesome
About spot on perfect.
#52
Gheritt White
14/01/11, 5:10 pm
@ 56: The point about complete absence of RAAAAAAGE remains, though.
#53
Gekidami
14/01/11, 5:13 pm
^Seems like you’re mad the 360 didnt get as much attention when it got hacked.
And anyway, “rage” about what? That MS was banning pirates? Not much to rage about really.
#54
RandomTiger
14/01/11, 5:14 pm
(off topic)
@39 Lots of things adding up to big problems, it seems to me the publisher / developer model is broken, I think games could be made better and cheaper if developers weren’t constantly subject to day to day mechanics that have come from short term thinking and/or technical decisions that are made on the basis of marketing or the risk avoidance strategies of publishers. In turn developers need to become more reliable and disciplined with the way they deal with publishers. I could go on and on but I believe most of our real problems are internal issues with the way the industry works and what it expects of people and companies. There’s a lot of necessary short term thinking with developers due to the way we, or most of us are funded.
At the moment everything is changing, platforms, business models, peripherals, distributions models, too much is changing really to make sense of it but at the end of the day there more than enough customers and money to keep a very healthy industry going and its quite sad that publishers and developers struggle to break even at the best of times.
#55
Gheritt White
14/01/11, 5:22 pm
@ 53: Not really, frankly I don’t really care as it doesn’t directly affect me anymore. I just don’t like all this SDF angst masquerading as genuine concern for “the industry”.
Why? Boredom, mostly. It’s been a slow couple of days.
#56
TheWulf
14/01/11, 7:32 pm
Sigh. Analogies. They’re just not necessary. It all boils down to this:
- Sony doesn’t add Other OS to the PS3 Slim. No one has any issues with this since it’s not an advertised feature.
- Sony removes Other OS from the older PS3 models, because apparently it’s too expensive to maintain. However, this wasn’t their call to make considering that it was an advertised feature that the consumer owning the hardware had every right to use.
- A hacker group hosted a security seminar in which they detailed a security exploit, and unveiled a practical proof of concept wherein the system could be hacked to restore the Other OS functionality and allow for homebrew.
- It’s pretty clear at this point that the patch doesn’t invite piracy and doesn’t make the process easy for pirates to enjoy free games on the PS3. It’s about the security flaw, homebrew, and regaining Other OS.
- People on Internet forums go into Bilious Dialectic Mode, and start spewing nonsense and FUD about how pirates were handed the magical key to the city, and how no one has to pay for their games any more, because the pirates have already won.
- Some people — more informed people — sigh and shake their heads.
/sighs and shakes his head.
#57
Benjo1981
14/01/11, 7:42 pm
@The Wulf
“It’s pretty clear at this point that the patch doesn’t invite piracy and doesn’t make the process easy for pirates to enjoy free games on the PS3. It’s about the security flaw, homebrew, and regaining Other OS.”
Firstly, we only have their testimony to go on. For all we know, piracy and malicious use of the PS3, could have been their intention. They’re not totally stupid, they wouldn’t come out and openly admit to promoting piracy in such a public fashion.
However, what I just suggested could be said to be drenched in paranoia. After all, we can claim almost anything with that reasoning.
It’s not simply about the security flaw becauase they could have dealt with that by going to Sony. Why publish it online for others to use?
It might very well have been for homebrew apps and the retrieval of the OtherOS feature. But, again, why release it to the public?
I’m no expert, but it’s my understanding that this hack does indeed give pirates the keys to, well, pirating games more easily. No?
#58
osric90
14/01/11, 8:32 pm
Geohot, you’re days of youth will be over in jail…unless you break! Got it? JailBreak? Meh, never mind.
#59
MushroomStamp
14/01/11, 8:47 pm
Some of you don’t understand that he did not break any laws here in the US. In the US, Jailbreaking is legal.
Also, MS does NOT brick consoles. It prevents them from gaining access to Live. Sony doesn’t own a network, so I don’t see much that they can do. Well they can probably stop you from the Paid version of PSN+, but that’s it. At least here in the US.
#60
Lloytron
14/01/11, 9:00 pm
Looks like Sony isn’t winning the fight. The restraining order apparently was not granted.
“As of 2:00 PM EST, 1/14/2011, I am not subject to any TROs”
Source, the man himself on http://www.geohot.com/
#61
Psychotext
14/01/11, 9:04 pm
Aye, first round to Geohot: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/14/no_playstation_hacker_order/
#62
MushroomStamp
14/01/11, 9:15 pm
Because he didn’t break any laws
This is how innovation happens. Someone wants to do something that isn’t being done.. and finds a way to do it. It’s a cat and mouse game… Geo is playing by the rules, and Sony doesn’t like the loophole… but that’s business.
#63
Psychotext
14/01/11, 9:18 pm
That’s only one small stage of the process Mushroom. Long way to go yet.
#64
MushroomStamp
14/01/11, 9:23 pm
*Previous post removed, was placed in wrong forum*
P.S. Tea, i mentioned nothing about morals and conduct, merely stated the guy didn’t violate any laws, Stop trying to troll and stir the pot.
#65
theevilaires
14/01/11, 9:30 pm
A pirate giving lessons on conduct and morals….WOW I’ve seen it all now
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