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Rumour – PSP2 “as powerful as the PS3,” uses “media format”

Thursday, 13th January 2011 08:05 GMT By Johnny Cullen

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MCV‘s reporting that PSP2 is set to arrive in Q4 this year, and that Sony has been telling licensees the machine’s “as powerful as the PlayStation 3″.

The Q4 release puts it in line with the release timeline of holiday 2011 that one source told VG247 back in October.

The article says Sony has been claiming the handheld is “is as powerful as the PlayStation 3,” which backs up an IGN article from last year.

A release as early as October is also mentioned, with publishers been consulted for titles at launch.

Sony is “specifically requesting richer, more in-depth content to differentiate its device from app-centric Apple and Android devices,” according to MCV.

A “media format” will be used with PSP2 to keep retail in the loop, but it will offer downloadable content as well as “smaller games and apps” from PSN.

This is in contrast to what we were told last May when one source told us it would be “amazed” if any kind of physical media was used for PSP2.

PSP2 will be unveiled at a “business overview and strategy meeting” in Tokyo on January 27, we were told yesterday, but more info on it will be announced at GDC in San Francisco in March and at E3 in June in LA, MCV says.

Going by the codename VITA, PSP2 has been in the hands of developers for at least a year. VG247 published the first images of a development kit last November.

Netherrealm Studios and EA have openly said they’ve been working with the machine.

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  1. BULArmy

    What will be next? PSP2 as powerful as 3000$ PC.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. Porky

    Expected more news from MCV. This is nothing we haven’t already heard, and still lacks the specifics to make statements they’ve made more meaningful, about power etc. Sort of disappointed no new info, roll on the 27th!

    #2 4 years ago
  3. Erthazus

    Ok, what this thing have SLI 480 GTX in the end?

    Sandy Bridge processor?

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Michael O’Connor

    It’s clearly not going to be as powerful as the PS3. That simply isn’t practical with existing mobile hardware. Even the highest, top of the range phones can’t manage that.

    One thing for sure though is that it’s going to be a beast. I can imagine a close to HD resolution screen, and a damn powerful processor.

    My biggest concern about the PSP2′s ardware oomph is that all this extra power will come with development costs well above what the handheld will be able to justify.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. Dannybuoy

    I don’t see why it can’t be as powerful as PS3. Technology advances pretty quick these days. Just look at what was possible with Infinity Blade on iOS.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. Erthazus

    @4, Michael, to make a PS3 power handheld is a piece of cake.

    PS3 is a 2006 system with 2004 specs at best. There is nothing revolutionary in that handheld.

    ASUS, Motorola make tablet devices with i5 and Dual Core processor with honeycomb already and someone talk about Ps3 power with 7800 Geforce (2005-2006 year) with 512 MB Ram (2001 year) and Pentium 4 processor that is sliced for 7 parts?

    #6 4 years ago
  7. Blerk

    So what sort of media format are we talking about? Solid state, like memory sticks, or some kind a disc – a new UMD based on Blu-Ray tech, maybe?

    All this talk makes it sound worryingly expensive. And what about battery life? When it comes to portable devices, there is such a thing as ‘too much’.

    #7 4 years ago
  8. Porky

    @Michael The flipside of that is that it could help bring costs down if it is powerful enough, and similar enough from a development point of view to their home system, to allow developers to leverage research & development from the home systems on the handheld. If I want to make a Pro Evo game for handhelds, which will cost me more? The one that lets me port over my PS3 tech easily, or the less powerful one that requires more ground-up development? The first is likely to be the cheaper option, and is more likely to end up with the better product. It’s a double-edged sword I think.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. Aimless

    “My biggest concern about the PSP2’s ardware oomph is that all this extra power will come with development costs well above what the handheld will be able to justify.”

    On the other hand if it’s relatively close to parity with the HD consoles it makes a great additional revenue stream for relatively cheap ports; presumably it would cost a pittance to create handheld versions of UE3 games, for instance.

    Not to say that’s what I want from the PSP2 — I’d just play the bigger brothers — but it’s another way to supplement development costs.

    Edit: Seems Porky and I are on the same page.

    What I do want from the machine is variable pricing. It’s really about time we saw that in a big way.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. Porky

    @Erthazus – Cell is far more powerful than anything in mobiles right now. And the best mobile GPUs still lag the home systems considerably. Maybe in a couple of years the GPU situation will be different, but not now. PSP2 can’t really be as powerful as PS3. But a PSP/PS2 type of comparison might be more valid – maybe a fraction as powerful, but because of the smaller screen and resolution you can make games that look sort of similar.

    #10 4 years ago
  11. Erthazus

    @Porky, WHO the fuck is going to put Cell in the mobile phone? For what purpose?

    Sony is creating a GAMING handheld. GAMING Handheld that is powered by sub-HD resolution 720p. You need a decent processor and small videocard chip. Mobile is not a GAMING handheld.

    I repeat myself again. ASUS developed tablet that is powered with i5 processor (that latest Sandy Bridge Intels processor). You need me to repeat again?

    #11 4 years ago
  12. Porky

    @Erthazus I’m not sure what your point is. I thought you were saying that current mobile CPUs are as powerful as home system CPUs. I’m just saying they’re not :P An i5 in a tablet is pretty impressive, but it’s a totally different form factor to a mobile or portable games device, and probably wouldn’t beat PS3′s CPU for raw power anyway.

    #12 4 years ago
  13. rainer

    At least Sony has seen reason to add an app store to it.

    #13 4 years ago
  14. StolenGlory

    Anyway, it doesn’t have to be like for like to the PS3 spec to start with. As people have already said, that smaller screen and by proxy far smaller resolution, mean that they can cut corners in regards to the processing power and still have games that look extremely comparable to their PS3 counterparts.

    #14 4 years ago
  15. Erthazus

    “probably wouldn’t beat PS3’s CPU for raw power anyway.”

    Would not beat PS3 CPU’s?
    i5 Sandy Bridge with power boost is more powerfull then PS3′s CPU in about Five hundred times. It’s the next generation computing processor. The latest one is only Sandy Bridge’s i7

    Cell is an old Pentium 4 architecture that is sliced in 7 parts. There is nothing great about it. It’s a 2006 tech.
    It was already old when Dual Core was announced.

    “I thought you were saying that current mobile CPUs are as powerful as home system CPUs.”

    It’s not, because there is no need for such CPU in the market. iPhone for example have already 512 MB eDRAM that is more powerfull then PS3′s memory for example.

    iPhone is more powerfull then previous macs before it.

    Sony can put 2 PS3′s in it’s new GAMING handheld if they want. Nothing special here.

    #15 4 years ago
  16. Tallon 4

    I’m sure the games will look absolutely jaw dropping op the small PSP2 screen ( small…at least compared to my 42 inch Panasonic ). If the specs don’t match the specs of the PS3 but are close, that is good enough for me.

    #16 4 years ago
  17. Madlink

    @Erthazus,
    It’s all very well pointing to devices that aren’t even available yet such as the Asus Eee Slate EP121, which as you say includes an i5-470M processor, as examples of how Sony could make their new handheld comparable to the PS3, but it’s sort of a moot point really.

    The original PSP launched for $249.99. I doubt very seriously that they plan to exceed that starting price with their next handheld. To include the type of processing power comparable to the PS3 would make for a very expensive device.

    Not saying that it’s not possible, but it simply wouldn’t make sense with regards to cost and battery life.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. Porky

    Erthazus – I don’t intend any offense, but I want to explain why I’m opting out of an argument with you; simply because it seems you don’t know what you’re talking about at all. If you genuinely believe that the i5 is 500 times more powerful than PS3-Cell and that Cell is based on a P4 architecture, and that having as much memory as PS3 makes the iPhone similarly capable, well there’s little more I can argue with you.

    #18 4 years ago
  19. sebbie16

    I sure hope it does have physical media… not too fond of digital distribution.

    #19 4 years ago
  20. 2plus2equals5

    Remember that a smartphone are similar to a pc because its processing power is used by a lot of things, not only by a game.
    An imaginary Apple iplay based on iphone would be a very powerful console.
    Infinity blade is already thousands times better than any 3ds game and is very close to ps3 quality.

    I think that a psp2 with half ps3 power(4 core mini cell processor?) and half resolution will give us incredible results. ;)

    PS:
    I will not be surprised if it will have 2d screen and 3d output ;)

    #20 4 years ago
  21. StolenGlory

    @18

    I do agree. Saying that the i5 is 500 times more power than the PS3-Cell is a silly, silly thing to say and there isn’t a set of benchmarks of tech analysis in the world that would back Erth up on this.

    Same for the Cell, being inherent of P4 architecture which in itself is a laughable statement when you realise that the Cell was jointly developed by Sony, Toshiba and IBM with Intel (makers of the Pentium chip) nowhere to be seen. Again, I don’t believe you’ll find a respectable source anywhere on the web which agrees with you Erth.

    #21 4 years ago
  22. Blerk

    Cell comes from a PowerPC background, doesn’t it?

    #22 4 years ago
  23. StolenGlory

    It sure does, yup.

    #23 4 years ago
  24. Erthazus

    @2plus, “Infinity blade is already thousands times better than any 3ds game ”

    Absolutely not. Have you seen Resident Evil? That game blows by graphics Infinity Blade away.

    @Madlink, it’s possible to include Ps3 and make profit. It’s already… almost 2 years since SLIM Launch. 2 years since all the architecture is cheap + remember, PS3 use BLU RAY player that is expensive.
    Of course there will be no Blu ray device in PSP 2. So it should cost not much and i think they are not going to use Nvidia G70, they can use even better: PowerVR 5XT series that are going to be cheap as hell.

    They absolutely can make a Ps3 little device and make a profit out of it. It’s just depends on their 10th/5th life cycle plan that they always plan to.

    @Porky, so i5 470M processor is weaker then Cell? Are you out of your mind or some kind of another Playstation fanboy?
    “and that having as much memory as PS3 makes the iPhone similarly capable”

    They all have equal memory. Just different architecture and different purpose. If you remember rumours, PSP2 is going to have 1GB Ram for example.

    @StolenGlory, it’s not based on Pentium 4, but it have a similar power to be honest. Or some cheap Dual core processor. Yes it’s more powerfull then Xbox 360s’ 3.2 GHz PowerPC Tri-Core Xenon so what?

    #24 4 years ago
  25. OlderGamer

    Three things and three things only.

    1: Backwards compatibility. It needs to the play DD games already purchased from PSN. A PSP to PSP2 transfer “cable” would be nice but is prolly too much to ask for.

    2: Must have a PSP2 to TV HD cable. If I can’t use this on something larger then an over grown credit card sized screen its no dice for me. I want to play it on TV and don’t want the screen chopped/capped as bad as PSP TV screen was.

    3: Price. Simply put it needs to be at least 250usd OR less. Anything higher is just arogant and ignorant pricing.

    That being said if they could get PS3 power out of something so small it would get so over heated it would melt your hands; that or the PS3 Slim should get a drastic reduction is size.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. StolenGlory

    “@Porky, so i5 470M processor is weaker then Cell? Are you out of your mind or some kind of another Playstation fanboy?

    Uhh, Erth. He didn’t say that the i5 was weaker than the Cell. He said that the i5 wasn’t 500 times better than the cell (your own quote).

    #26 4 years ago
  27. 2plus2equals5

    @erth
    You are reaaaaaaally wrong
    Look at this:
    http://www.nineinchsandwich.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/RE-Chris.jpg
    probably not in game, dark, no background, only half chris. We can safely assume that this is the maximum level of detail for the character.
    Don’t you see the horrible fingers? An the low poligon count?
    Muscles aren’t made of poligons, infact light mapping and bump mapping(that is used to make more realistic a flat stone wall) are used.
    Now look at this
    http://www.sync-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Infinity-Blade-b.jpg
    ingame, 2 full body characters in action, sunny, background.
    Don’t you really see the GREAT difference?
    And don’t forget that iphone has higher resolution.

    #27 4 years ago
  28. Erthazus

    @2plus2equals5, Oh thanks for the bad Resident Evil screenshot. You of course can’t search for something better.

    http://www.ripten.com/gallery/resident-evil-revelations/RE_Revelations_002_bmp_jpgcopy.jpg.php?z&p=full-image

    Here you go for example.

    + Infinity blade gameplay is not wide open compared to Resident Evil where you go there and shoot that.

    But lets not stop here and i will show you the ultimate graphics game:

    http://itoptech.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/1d20f5d7833d7710.jpg.jpg

    http://www.3dsbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/metalgear3d-3ds.jpg

    See? MGS: Snake Eater 3DS blows the shit out of the Infinity Blade.

    iPhone how much on the market? Exactly. 3DS on the market is not even out and look what game launch lineup looks like.

    #28 4 years ago
  29. Blerk

    Terrible?

    #29 4 years ago
  30. StolenGlory

    @29

    Yeah unfortunately. All the stuff that I want for it (SSFIV3D nonwithstanding) is due out much later on – Kid Icarus, MGS, RE: Revelations etc…

    #30 4 years ago
  31. spiderLAW

    Erthazus is funny trying to simplify the architecture/build/power of the cell processor as if he builds them himself. Silly.
    Techies all over, that careers are based around such technology, have even said themselves that the cell processor is much more complicated than that buddy.

    #31 4 years ago
  32. theevilaires

    Fools the CELL is the most powerful thing in creation nothing can top it. The government even uses it that’s how advance the CELL is. Sony doesn’t even need to use another processor in the PS4 just update the graphics chip and add more ram.

    Kutaragi is a genius.

    #32 4 years ago
  33. Blerk

    Medic!

    #33 4 years ago
  34. StolenGlory

    ^ This.

    #34 4 years ago
  35. themadjock

    @32 – Sandy Bridge say hello

    #35 4 years ago
  36. Dr.Ghettoblaster

    Well, it’d make sense to me if it had at LEAST a 32GB internal drive, and a slot for a 32GB M2 card, double setup of their PSPgo.

    #36 4 years ago
  37. theevilaires

    1..2…3.. thats it only 3 people who fail to realize the sarcasm. And Kutaragi is a genius thats why I didn’t add that sentence with the others ;)

    #37 4 years ago
  38. spiderLAW

    TEA,
    you’ve lost me.
    Anywho, Cell isnt the most powerful, but arguably has the most potential. Sandy Bridge has opened up a lot of doors as well.
    But back on topic. No the PSP2 wont be as powerful, but with such a small screen, rendered images will look pretty damn close to the naked eye. But im sure just how the PSP looked close to the PS2 graphics on its tiny screen, when connected to a TV it didnt look anything near it, same shit will go down with PSP2 vs PS3.

    #38 4 years ago
  39. TraceableX

    It’s gonna be a beast.

    BTW, we are talking about PSP2 here. N00bs.

    #39 4 years ago
  40. theevilaires

    spider my comment 32 was riddled with sarcasm.

    The cell being the most powerful thing in existence…

    The government using cell cause its so powerful yet they can’t stop a group of so called terrorist who live in caves…

    Sony not needing a new processor for a new high end graphics card…………..

    yea its sad to see people think of me so much as a SONY loyalist to not see when I’m clearly joking. It was bait and 3 of maybe 25 took the bait cause they were probably logged on at the time.

    Kutaragi still is a genius though :D

    #40 4 years ago
  41. themadjock

    You are certainly one stange fruit TEA

    #41 4 years ago
  42. Bond James Bond

    Sony should’ve put a “real” CPU in the PS3. The Cell was a mess and Sony fuckin know it. $400 Million down the crapper indeed.

    To make matters worse Sony (and MS) got their arse handed to them by a little console known as the Wii. A console that can’t render HD and cost a fraction of the price to manufacture.

    Clowns would be the word used to sum up Sony this gen.

    #42 4 years ago
  43. spiderLAW

    @TEA
    O, hahah i got it. How dare you speak of your beloved sony in that way!!! lol

    #43 4 years ago
  44. 2plus2equals5

    @erth:
    No offense, but don’t make me laugh with that re screenshot!;)
    That is a movie screenshot.
    Maybe i wasn’t clear, i choosed a screenshot of the best case for re(only one character, no background etc), and the worst case for ib(in game, open background etc).
    Do you want another picture?
    http://cdn.softsailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Resident-Evil-3DS.jpg
    Here is even clearer the low polycount, look at the arm in the bottom right of the picture.
    Or look at this
    http://www.fearnet.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2010516/ResidentEvilTease.jpg
    look at the fingers, the arm etc…
    These screenshots represent the game, not the one you posted. ;)

    What about mgs?
    look at this:
    http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t275/Arnon_01/MetalGearPortableComparison.jpg

    3ds has shaders, effects and better textures, so mgs 3ds looks better, but look at snake’s model, probably it’s the same with the same polygon count(if not less judging by the ear).
    And we are talking about consoles with 6 years of difference!

    Don’t be fooled by 3ds shaders and effects, 3ds hasn’t a big polygon count.

    PS:
    from edge
    “According to a source with experience of working on the device, the reports are “a perfectly reasonable description of the hardware’s capabilities.” Our source also notes that in comparison to 3DS, PSP2’s processing power is “comparable to the difference which exists between PSP and DS.””

    #44 4 years ago
  45. theevilaires

    @43 don’t mock me or I’ll chuck my two XBOX 360′s at you :D

    #45 4 years ago
  46. spiderLAW

    @44
    You are right dude.
    Thats what i was saying to everyone a while back.
    3DS falls short in polygon count but has decent shaders and effects.
    @45
    So we can watch the poorly built machine break into pieces at my manly physique? muahahaha

    #46 4 years ago