Thu, Jan 13, 2011 | 11:01 GMT

Rumour – Hacked PS3s can be banned even without PSN access

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A NeoGAF user is reporting that Sony has the abillity to ban hacked PS3s without online access.

According to the poster, Sony could ban users once a machine’s connected to the company’s servers, which it apparently does the second the console boots up, and not when it connects to PSN.

This is what was written. Might need to get a cuppa, or something:

On boot the system contacts the server and uploads the play list etc. this list alone is enough to get anyone that goes online banned as it shows the bootmanger etc. has been running. Here is the list and what they do, I port sniffed this a while ago before I went online with a retail unit >.> because I am not stupid hehe.

fus01.ps3.update.playstation.net > Update Server (sys updates)
mercury.dl.playstation.net > What’s new ads
nsx.np.dl.playstation.net > playstation store preview
nsx-e.np.dl.playstation.net > ads
(main file exchange connections)
us.np.stun.playstation.net > on boot initiates connection
ena.net.playstation.net > SSLv3 connection after above connection
dus01.ps3.update.playstation.net > secondary update attempt (could force updates)
auth.np.ac.playstation.net > SSLv3 authentication server
(destination servers)
service.playstation.net (has multiple IPs if only the ip address is blocked)
(Error Reporting)
creepo.ww.hl.playstation.net (uploads crash reports etc.)

Almost all connections cannot just be port blocked, the port will continue to increment until it connects, you have to block the entire domains.

The news after Sony issued a restraining order against GeoHot and hacker group fail0verflow this week for exposing the console’s root key, which has apparently exposed the hardware once and for all.

We published a broad piece of the recent spate of PS3 hacking this morning: read it here.

Via CVG.

20 comments

#1

Doomsayer
13/01/11, 11:04 am

So just dont plug it into your network or reroute dns to some fake ips ;)

#2

Gekidami
13/01/11, 11:11 am

Rerouting the DNS wouldnt do much seeing as Sony can actually block the console itself from connecting to PSN, not just an IP address.

#3

Blerk
13/01/11, 11:12 am

Sort of depends on whether it remembers and grasses you up if you ever dare to plug it in again. To be honest it doesn’t sound worth the risk.

#4

OrbitMonkey
13/01/11, 11:13 am

#5

BULArmy
13/01/11, 11:23 am

I am playing right now a game which is not even released on PSN and without a developers SKU. Glory to fail0verflow and Hotz.

#6

Fin
13/01/11, 11:30 am

@2

I think he meant changing the DNS manually to a DNS that resolves the domains to 0.0.0.0 or whatever. It’d prevent communication with the Sony/PSN servers.

In terms of actually blocking, it’d probably be done on mac address/serial number.

#7

unacomn
13/01/11, 11:43 am

Soo, does the PS3 have magic always on Internet? Can’t you just unplug it? Or get a lousy provider that never works?

#9

mojo
13/01/11, 12:10 pm

“Rumour – Hacked PS3s can be banned even without PSN access”

i would have assumed that anyway.
is that realy surprising?

“Soo, does the PS3 have magic always on Internet? Can’t you just unplug it? Or get a lousy provider that never works?”
PSN Acces is not the same as connected to the internet.

#10

NinjaMidget
13/01/11, 12:22 pm

@5 People work damn hard on those games man. What you’re doing is pissing on them and their hard work. Have some bloody respect for hard working developers who risk quite a lot, especially independent developers, for your pleasure.

#11

Psychotext
13/01/11, 12:24 pm

@10: People don’t give a shit. They seem to think games come out of magic pixie land, created by bunnies and stardust for our enjoyment.

#12

Blerk
13/01/11, 12:27 pm

They aren’t? :-(

/bubble bursts

#13

Psychotext
13/01/11, 12:30 pm

Sorry. :(

#14

BULArmy
13/01/11, 12:36 pm

Actually I am in the team which is making that game :D I just want to see if Sony will ban me.(they don’t know who am I so it is more of an experiment :)
For now I don’t even think that they acnowledge that I am playing a game that is not even released :D
P.S. Guys think first, how can I obtain a downloadable game for PSN if I am not somehow connected to the project.

#15

raloB
13/01/11, 1:01 pm

You could always delete your playlist and other file after each session! Maybe there is something out there already that does it for you. ;)

Just Saying!

#16

themadjock
13/01/11, 1:53 pm

Well BULArmy if you are actually part of the team creating a game why would you post something as stupid as “Glory to fail0verflow and Hotz”?

#17

Dr.Ghettoblaster
13/01/11, 2:32 pm

Question.

When someone gets ahold of an officially released PS3 title at least a week prior to the retail release date and plays it, can Sony see this and ban you for playing it early?

#18

Gekidami
13/01/11, 3:43 pm

^ They can see it but they’ve never banned anyone for it.

#19

BULArmy
13/01/11, 6:54 pm

@themadjock So now I can create games only for the sake of fun and not be tied to Sony. Ofcourseit is bad that many games will be pirated but I think that it will not be a videspread phenomenan. It is not so easy as with PC or PSP games.

#20

TheWulf
14/01/11, 7:45 pm

@10 & @11: …sigh.

He’s obviously talking about some thrown together homebrew game or port of a free, open source game, just to wind you up.

That he says it’s not out on PSN yet is quite the tell, if you ask me. To have a game pirated that isn’t out on PSN is unlikely to the point of inconceivability.

Essentially – he’s trolling, and you just bit without even bothering to research first.

Well done.

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