“Lack of diversity” will push 360 below PS3, says analyst

I seriously doubt there is a lack of variety this generation – It was true last gen but I think 3rd party support has been rather diverse. What MS lacks is a varied 1st Party portfolio. Their first party clearly lacks something like God of War/Heavy Rain/Ico sequels but those titles are hardly hardware sellers.

on a worldwide basis, the PS3 may be able to catch up but that’s largely due to Japan. When it comes to combined US/EU, the PS3 will NEVER catch up especially with Kinect around

This should generate some traffic ^_^

“Microsoft has done nothing wrong”, except Kinect.

“Lack of diversity” will push 360 below PS3, says analyst

I agree, SCE Worldwide Studios (fps, plateform, survival horror, jrpg, car games, sport games etc…), Second Party and some production (heavy rain, DS) are really great, SCE think games!

MS has Halo…^^

@alimokrane
“on a worldwide basis, the PS3 may be able to catch up but that’s largely due to Japan. When it comes to combined US/EU, the PS3 will NEVER catch up especially with Kinect around”

I’m sorry, but in EU it’s already outsold Xbox 360. In Japan PS3 sold only for 5.8 million

Sony was always strong in EU. It lacks only in US, but they still managed to sell 15 million units, while Xbox 360 with one YEAR advantage sold 25 million.

@1, individually those titles aren’t Hardware sellers, but the moment The Last Guardian comes out I’m splurging on a PS3 and all those sexy PS3 exclusives I’ve missed and will be able to pick up cheap as fuck.

Heavy rain a game? Can Heavy rain be considered a game?

@7: Yes, but feel free to come up with a new category. It doesn’t matter in the end what you call it.

fucking idiots. If the ps3 was release in usa at the same time, it would be ahead of xbox360.

@7 technically yes since you must use a controller to experience it .Just because it’s different from other genres and not so different from adventure games doesn’t make it less of a game.

Well, i prefer games over movies becouse of the interactivity, the only interactivity that Heavy rain have are quick time events that i hate with a passion…even the walking feels scripted.

I junt can’t get over the “press the right button and your character will stay alive” thing.

I’m used to Deus ex, where YOU change the story based on the choices that you made during the game, who you trust, who you kill, and the gameplay of the game is exellent. The only “gameplay” that Heavy rain have is, like i said, quick time events.

But that’s just my opinion…

@11 exactly your opinion which doesn’t take away the fact that it is a game in it’s own rights

“press the right button and your character will stay alive”

That’s the same in any game, they just don’t display the button.

I see what you mean though.

@1

Actually, PS3 is leading in EU as well. US is where the 360 is strongest. Just wanted to correct that

@10

I’m not sure it’s the controller that defines what is a game and what’s not
After all, what is a game? I’d define games as interactive experiences, boardgames, consoles, PC…you pick one.

@5: Actually, the UK and Dominion countries align much more closely with the US than with Europe. Just look at the weekly and monthly sales charts for the different regions. Anglophones play the same games.

@9: That’s pretty unlikely. It’s 20 million to 12 million in the US. There have only ever been a handful of months that the PS3 outsold the 360. EDIT: unless you mean because the PS3 would have been able to establish its own multiplayer “society” the way XBL did, then that’s a fair argument, even if it’s doubtful because of the price.

Mostly fair comments. Sony dropped the ball with the PS3 launch, MS picked it up and ran with it.

It is no small achievment what MS have achieved in the console space since they entered, but let’s not forget just how cash rich a company they are, and it’s no exageration to say they bought their way to success.

None of that should detract from the very real achievments MS have made with Live and the 360 as a whole, but they’ve sailed in on a bed of cash.

Oh, and I’d hardly class the single biggest defect rate of any console ever launched, and a multi billion dollar repair bill ‘nitpicking’. It cost them my support and I’m sure I’m not alone.

… No, you’re not alone. After 3 RRoDs on my 360 and several scratched disks (without moving the box) I had enough.
The time (2008) was right to buy a PS3 and I never looked back really. Still have my 360 but I don’t buy any new games for it (the only exception was ME2 and I regret this purchase).

I agree. When you see PS3 exclusives like Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2, and Killzone 3, you see that there are not only great exclusive shooters, but also adventure games, race simulating games etc. Xbox 360 has a lot of exclusives, but mainly shooters (Halo, GoW, etc.)

PS VG247.com : Why do you keep using pictures of the old consoles? They both got a redesign and you’re still using old images? It has been 6 months since the Xbox 360 redesign and almost 14 months since the PS3 redesign.

What puzzles me is why analysts often claim that the xbox is “…primarily the platform for FPS games…”. Is it because of XBL? I would rather say that there are more FPS on the PS3.

Edit: @dylan you mention GT5, UC2 and KZ3 for diversity and then you say XB has got only shooters by mentioning Halo and Gears. Put in Forza and you have nearly the same three picks…

@19 I’d say Live has more people playing shooters (millions more?) at any given time, hence the 360 rep. You could argue that xbox brought online fps’s to the casual masses.
Other Sony exclusives: Little Big Planet, Infamous & Ratchet and Clank.

In north america, where it is most important, the ps3, is way too far behind to catch up. Not that it matters, I think this story is nothing but flame bait anyways and I don’t think it has anything valuable in it but bait for the resident trolls. C’mon vg let’s not START the flame wars.

demon souls. flam3 wars are hard to start. they have been in constant movement since forever.

too bad Demon Souls 2 is multiplatform. Mhwwwuuuaaaaa.

Oh Look, it’s EraTWATzus.

yeah a game i can actually play on my xbox 360 whooo besides netflix and twitter. god microsoft is so fucking hardcore yo!

itsucks, Demon’s souls is owned by Sony, if you’re going to be a troll, atleast use facts, retard.

sony owns everything including Kuwabara’s child raping penis.

@19 because the ps3 controller is a clusterfuck when it comes to shooters. People at least want triggers and analog sticks in an ergonomic position. This is the reason I primarily play my 360, I just hate the ps controller. Plus, fps is the most popular genre, xbox is the most popular system, so it makes sense more people are playing fps ON 360.

they play more fps? it seems like its two games to me cod and halo. thats all they play year after year just another cod and another halo. micersoft are hardcore yo. no ones makes sequels like they do.

The general feel & the triggers on the 360 are better imo, but i prefer everything else about the DualShock3 (bumpers, D-pad, buttons, sticks) Sony has always had poor designs for their triggers, my dualshock 2 buttons went inside of the controller
Hopefully next time around, Sony will study the feel of the controller so that they can finally improve it, the dualshock just isn’t conformtable, & while sturdy, feels like it’ll break given enough pressure.
On a side note, I’m glad that within the past couple of years Sony has gotten their act together with the PS3′s games, & looking at the upcoming title, Sony is the clear winner by miles, MS literally only has 2 notable games (Gears & that Crytek game) which is why i expect a new MS console unviel by 2012 & released by 2013, glad i invested in both conoles though, but i only use my 360 for exclusives & everything else on my PS3 (normally the other way around with multi console owners).

@29 totally agree. Hopefully the next iteration of ps controllers are more ergonomically designed. Also we NEED at least 2 major consoles to drive competition, without that I think gamers as a whole will suffer.

i liked the xbox s controller. id still rather have that though with the black and white buttons swapped for shoulders buttons like they did with the 360. the shape of the 360 controller doesnt feel as good as the xbox s controller.

@28 both of which are fps, yo.

@32 really? hmm, i thought they were action adventure yo. my bad honest.

@33

bye bye x360.

Talking of controllers has anyone got the black ops controller for the ps3? Is it any good? I really like the Dualshock, but only after I brought trigger guards. They should be part of the design imo.

@itsucks
Project Dark is not DS2

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/oct/28/games-ps3

Wrong.

Shooters are what the public want, not diversity.

Plus Kinect is already giving the 360 an added buzz, I predict GREAT sales for the console in 2011.

Right, there’s my prediction, where’s my large sack of money for making ridiculous claims?!

I disagree with them. Ps3 has an alternative point and click adventure, a level editor game, GT and an yet to be released Ico sequel, both consoles’ libraries are diversive enough. 360 has Fable, Alan Wake, jrpgs, Forza. not that different then.

besides, it’s not a bad decision to have emphasis on shooters, since that’s was sells millions today.

@16
Of course they bought their way to success. Nintendo and Sega were on a spending spree back in ’85. And of course when Sony came in with the PS1, they out spent em all. Securing exclusives is a time-honored method of establishing dominance. Microsoft was just taking its turn at the wheel. If people pay attention, you will notice that Sony opened up their coffers earlier this year and now “suddenly” all these 3rd party exclusives are being announced. It is not a coincidence. This is hardly a dirty practice.

@18,19, etc
About half-a-year ago, someone actually counted up the games per platform into their primary genre. To no one’s surprise, the big winner on both the PS3 and the 360 is sports titles. The only reason to declare one console or another to support primarily “X genre” is so that the group of people with disdain for that genre can feel smug and superior in their console choice. Black Ops sells what? 5 million the first day? If you were going to make a console I sure hope you plan on being the #1 choice for FPS players too.

@25 It is owned by From Software and was published by Sony in Japan. Meanwhile in the US it was published by Atlus and in the EU, Namco-Bandai. This is even a more loose relationship than Microsoft had with Bioware when they developed Mass Effect, and yet we see the sequel coming to the PS3. Demon Souls 2 being multi-platform would hardly be a surprise.

i do not think it will make any impact on console sales really. there is variety on 360. sony is definitely stronger there though. 360 needs some mature or family platforming games (like ratchet and clank), and some fresh adventure style ips. talking about ps3 exclusives i didn´t enjoy heavy rain at all, hated little big planet, liked kz and uncharted but not enough that it would make me purchase a ps3 again. r+c, resistance and wipeout are the games i love on the ps3. but there´s halo, mass effect and fable on 360 you know. if they finally make a medievil for ps3 i´m back in – it´s such a cool ip. i really don´t understand why there isn´t a huge AAAAAAAA ps3 medievil in the pipeline.

Quiiick said:

November 14, 2010 at 2:31 pm… No, you’re not alone. After 3 RRoDs on my 360 and several scratched disks (without moving the box) I had enough.
The time (2008) was right to buy a PS3 and I never looked back really. Still have my 360 but I don’t buy any new games for it (the only exception was ME2 and I regret this purchase).

The fact that you bash ME2 at the end of your fanboy rant only confirms your a real sony fanboy. ME2 is probably the greatest game this generation.

@42, he probably regrets the purchase because it’s out on PS3 next year…

@21 why it is most important exactly?

@40 Sony totally owns the IP of Demon’s Souls,SCEJ hired From Software and in collaboration they developed it. SCE published it only in Japan.
Also proof to that is a recent announcement from SCEJ that they will make DS2 at some point in the future since the first title is so well supported

What matter is not if Sony suddenly sell more consoles after 6 years… what matter is- do it sell games? and what i can see it never really does.

http://www.vgchartz.com/#first

@45 “it never really does” an ignorant statement.Off course they do and pretty good.It’s just happens that most multiplatform titles sell a bit more on the 360.There isn’t a huge difference as you make it out to be.

Psychotech:

Worldwide Software Totals
Console Weekly (change) Total (tie ratio)
X360 3,994,325 (-8%) 403,012,359 (9.01)
Wii 3,969,294 (+6%) 534,271,896 (7.06)
DS 2,706,330 (+10%) 593,972,684 (4.36)
PS3 2,186,911 (-26%) 285,685,643 (6.99)

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Call of Duty: Black Ops Sells 7 Million Copies on Day One:
Xbox 360 takes the largest proportion of sales with 59%, 36% for PS3 and the remainder on PC, Wii and DS

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82685/call-of-duty-black-ops-sells-7-million-copies-on-day-one

Those numbers are pulled out of VGC’s arse Jan. They have no relation to reality.

All this statistical cock waving & analytical naval gazing is so much bs. Bottom line, 360/PS3, similar shit, slightly different smell. Neither is in danger of doing a dreamcast anytime soon.

@47 even if those early numbers were accurate ,36% sounds bad to you?Pull yourself together.You’re exaggerating.