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Xbox Live Silver to be renamed Xbox Live Free

Wednesday, 20th October 2010 19:26 GMT By Johnny Cullen

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Xbox UK community boss Graeme “AceyBongos” Boyd has revealed Xbox Live Silver will be renamed Xbox Live Free.

He made the tweet last night. The news comes after Microsoft revealed a re-designed Xbox.com earlier today.

Just been told that ‘Xbox LIVE Silver Membership’ will now officially be called ‘Xbox LIVE Free Membership’. The times they are a-changin…”

Indeed.

You can find the new redesign for Xbox.com here.

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48 Comments

  1. LOLshock94

    W….T…..F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 4 years ago
  2. Happy Hardon Harry

    Can’t believe the retarded still pay for XBL…

    #2 4 years ago
  3. choochoo

    Xbox live is Head & Shoulders above PSN which is a shamble and pathetic. Microsoft are smart and thats why they are swimming in $$$ compared to ps3 which is in Debt lol.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Psychotext

    I genuinely laughed out loud at the new name.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. Syrok

    I have a genuine question about Xbox Live Silver. Can you download games of the store if you only have that or do you need Gold?

    #5 4 years ago
  6. ThePlatypus

    @5 Yes but when new demos come out they’re available to silver a week later

    #6 4 years ago
  7. Syrok

    Ah, ok. Thanks.
    Getting demos later would not really be a deal breaker for me. :)

    #7 4 years ago
  8. itsucks

    @Syrok : what the… pay for the possibility to pay for games? You pay a fee for a big ammount of priveleges like online gaming, party/chat, early demos, promotion on game prices, etc.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. cookiejar

    Haha. Classic.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. Syrok

    @8 If people were willing to pay for being able buy games I’d certainly offer them the option to do so. If you combine that with online play and all that you’d probably end up with more consumers paying for your premium service than if it would “only” allow you to play online.

    :)

    #10 4 years ago
  11. _LarZen_

    Minus party chat the PSN service is just as good as Xbox Live. Dont understand why some Xbox people have to justify why they pay when PS3 owners dont….

    #11 4 years ago
  12. reask

    Never ceases to amaze me that folks whine about a Euro a week to have a live sub.

    #12 4 years ago
  13. Erthazus

    Gee lol… Party chat is overrated. For that paying 60 bucks?

    #13 4 years ago
  14. cookiejar

    @11 Kinda agree.

    I don’t deny Xbox Live is better, it is. But for many different reasons. But when you come down to it, PSN is perfectly decent and improving all the time. I’d be happy if I only had PSN.

    #14 4 years ago
  15. joshua nash

    great the retards at MS that think windows is still the best OS are now renaming the free “silver membership” to “free membership”

    #15 4 years ago
  16. stretch215

    @12 EXACTLY

    #16 4 years ago
  17. M2Kx

    Great news is great. Trolling trolls are trolling :D

    #17 4 years ago
  18. freedoms_stain

    @12, paying for services rendered free on other platforms is certainly something to begrudge “a euro a week”.

    I wouldn’t mind paying for live as much if it was for premium services, but basic online multiplayer is NOT a premium service, it’s bog standard.

    How’d you like to go for a shite in a restaurant. Using the shitter is free, but it’s 10p per sheet of toilet paper. 50p for a skoosh of soap, 10p per paper towel…

    #18 4 years ago
  19. spiderLAW

    @12 I agree with 18
    Its not the price, it isnt a lot. Its the principal. Being able to play online shouldnt cost extra. It wouldnt be so bad if it were more like lets say PSN+. PSN+ doesnt offer much to justify buying it (yet) but its an OPTION. Not buying PSN+ does not hinder the PS3 users ability to play online. It should be the same for Live. I am a gold subscriber but i wont be after this last term is up. Its already ridiculous to have to pay to play online where others can for free and its even worse that they raised the prices.
    Just as the example freedoms gave. Its like if BMW said “Would you like to pay the $60 a year that will allow you to turn the engine on or would you rather stay on our Free Silver service in which your car just sits looking nice and pretty in your driveway? At least in the silver mode, you can turn the radio on, use the windshield wipers, release the E-Brake, use the power windows :) So which will it be :)?”

    #19 4 years ago
  20. Nozz

    @18 agree with the analogy but jeez it made me laugh hard!

    #20 4 years ago
  21. itsucks

    PSN is a crap service, trolls can keep playing in that subpar shithole for all i care, lol.

    #21 4 years ago
  22. Lord Gremlin

    Anyone who says PSN and XBL services differ in quality is a troll. Uncharted 2 and Gears of Wars 2 share same amount of lag. Same can be said about Killzone 2 and Halo 3. Actually, Gears 2 had the worst lag I’ve ever seen.
    One may consider PSN better purely because it gives you all the same, but cheaper/free.

    Anyway, to the point: why are they doing this? No reason really. Silver Live is free anyway.

    #22 4 years ago
  23. revsoul

    They are doing this b/c it will attract more people with the magic word ‘free’ in the title

    Microsoft…, they are geniuses when it comes to PR and HYPE

    #23 4 years ago
  24. cookiejar

    @22 +1

    #24 4 years ago
  25. Happy Hardon Harry

    Oh dear, the 360/PS3 mob on here are a bunch of dumplings. Both services (XBL/PSN) are shite. MS/Sony need to be looking at a service like Steam for inspiration as it eats n’ shits both XBL and PSN combined.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. KillerDD

    Aren’t we like supposed to discuss the name instead of whining about which Network is better?

    Let’s try again:

    I don’t really like the name.

    #26 4 years ago
  27. spiderLAW

    @25
    You sir are silly. Steam is a good service but it doesnt shit on anything PSN has to offer and it doesnt do so for Live (except for the fact that it doesnt require a service charge like Live does). Not everyone wants digital distribution which is the only thing it has going against PSN and Live.

    @26 Yup
    The name sounds silly but is easier to understand. When the tiers came out and were titled Gold and Silver, i didnt know what the hell to do at first. I thought silver had a price too. Of course, i found out it didnt when i realized i was already using silver and hadnt paid anything yet.

    #27 4 years ago
  28. reask

    @ 18 and 19.
    Sorry about that I forgot Sony are the angels this gen and MS are the devils :( Silly little me.

    FFS guys get real here the only reason PSN is free is because Sony failed to crap all over MS this gen.
    PSN+ says hello.

    Nothing personal guys but I really do have to laugh at the good guy Sony image this gen.

    @22
    UC2 I had to delete game data to get back in to multi.
    KZ2 keep getting no games found.
    Maybe I am stupid as when I checked PSN network it turns out I am on NAT 3 which is not cool.

    Never had these issues on live since day one.
    Phoned my broadband provider and they told me i have to go to portforwarding.com.
    Yeah well f**k off as I am no tech head in my forties so KZ2 gets taken out of drive permanently.

    End story is I have NEVER NEVER had problems on live in 4 years.
    PSN I have had several problems in 9 months.
    Am I stupid? Maybe.
    I expect my console provider to have all this shit sorted from there end.

    #28 4 years ago
  29. Prof.Dr.Moertel

    @27
    yeah, that´s true. Those Kinect moms would have been totally confused :D

    #29 4 years ago
  30. spiderLAW

    @28
    Nobody said Sony were angels. The dicussion was over Online services. The fact is, Sony PSN is free while Live isnt. Simple as that.
    I have had Live since the original Xbox and i have had PSN since 2006. There isnt any major differences between the 2 other than price and cross voice chat. Id rather be able to play online for free than pay $60 a year to talk to my friends while i play a different game than them.
    Never have had issues with KZ2 so it might have been you Broadband service that was fucking up and didnt want to own up to it, i know Time warner does that shit to me all the time.
    I never had an issue with UC2 either. I play both games online to this day.
    I still play live also. Gears2, Halo Reach, L4D and theyre online offerings are no better than that of the PS3 games mentioned.

    Again, the arguement was over Free online play vs Paid online pay, nothing else innitialy anyways.

    #30 4 years ago
  31. freedoms_stain

    @27, have you used Steam? It’s more than a Digital Distributon platform.

    It has an integrated community just like PSN and Live, with Friends, text chat, voice chat, and additionally GROUPS! (there’s a vg247 group btw) Steam also has Forums where you can discuss games. That’s all built right into the service.

    The Steam in-game Overlay is also vastly superior to the guide on XBL (no idea what the equivalent PSN thing is like) you can access options, your friends list and chat, Steams recent news items for the title AND a full webkit browser from right inside the game should you need it.

    Steam also has an achievement engine, which tbh I much prefer over Xbox as you can check out stats and %age completion for every individual achievement in every game and not just the ones where the devs could be arsed including it.

    The deals you get on Steam also make XBL deal of the week look like some sort of cheap-ass joke.

    Don’t like Digital Distribution? Doesn’t matter, you can add any non-steam game exe to Steam and get the benefits of the Steam in-game overlay.

    @28, PSN is still free-to-play online multiplayer, PSN+ be damned, it’s optional, if you don’t want those extras, you don’t have to have them.

    Oh, and I had constant network problems on my 360 despite port forwarding until I assigned my 360 to the DMZ, so I guess you can have network problems on any system eh?

    #31 4 years ago
  32. MushroomStamp

    Steams Voice, sounds like shit … Which is why my PC buds use TeamSpeak. Text chatting during a game is lame as hell. Steam to me is only good for distribution. I like steam, but all their additional features IMHO aren’t that great. But they dont’ charge for them so I dont’ bitch.

    I personally am happy to pay for Live. To me it’s like Public Course Vs. Private Course (golf)… yeah, you play the same game, but doesn’t have the same community. The simple fact that EVERY SINGLE 360 comes with a headset promotes the interaction between players. I hate playing on PSN because the majority of people don’t have mics and even teh ones that do don’t talk that much. No I am not there to talk about my day. But to me and every serious gamer I know, prefers to have voice communication when playing multiplayer. It makes better teamwork and better gameplay the more teams communicate. The people that complain are the Rambo’s while me and my communicating friends wax dat ass!

    You say “just cross chat”.. . Cross, straight whatever, Chat is necessary for competitive gameplay, else your just a lone ranger lookin for a tonto.

    For the record… I might have lag 1 out of every 100 matches on Live but on PSN it’s about 1 in 10.

    My PS3 is strictly for single player games that are exclusive to PS3 (Infamous FTW), my 360 is for Multiplayer games and My PC is for Single player games that i want the best graphics on. I can’t live in a one system world.

    #32 4 years ago
  33. sg1974

    Reask said “FFS guys get real here the only reason PSN is free is because Sony failed to crap all over MS this gen.”

    LOL! Way to talk right out of your ass. PSN was free from day one, not as a result of Sony failing to match MS sales “this gen”. What a dick. Or do you think sony looked into the future and saw that it would not match the 360 in US so had to go free? (the rest of world PS3 lead – despite much later launch than 360 – says “hi!” to the “PS3 is failing” crowd).

    Youre just talking anecdotes, I haven’t had any of the problems on PSN you talk about but a friend has had plenty of problems online with his 360. What does that tell you, genius? it tells you that a single individuals experience is not proof of an overall picture.

    The only substantial differnce between live and PSN is cross game chat. If you think that’s worth what MS charge for Gold then good for you, doesnt mean everyone has to agree with you.

    #33 4 years ago
  34. lexph3re

    Man this news is whack. A pure gimmick. Silver free? Man its always been “free” but sad because you still can’t play online. I’m sorry guys but cross game chat is the only win with a decent UI for Live.

    I’ve honestly have friends on both ends of the wagon. And the lags in 360 is no better then the lags in ps3. In fact a couple of my friends who converted from 360 to ps3 fell in love with ps3′s easy set up. They love the fact all they needed to get online was a e-mail address and bam they’re matched up. And when I asked what they them did they notice a difference in their online. Guess what they said? No they didn’t. And the funny thing is these are friends I would call casual gamers all they play is modern warfare.

    Now, to be completely honest its the “hardcore” that make the assumptions that psn lags over live. But, when it comes down to it. They’re just blowing it out their a** because they don’t have a ps3. Because EVERYTIME I’ve played online on a 360 Lag. Never failed and you can’t say it was me cause my friends had highspeed internet and connected directly to the console. Anytime I’ve ever lagged on ps3 was connected through Wi-Fi with a laptop running on the Wi-Fi. So, overall its down to the experience of an individual and what they’re looking for

    #34 4 years ago
  35. spiderLAW

    @31
    Yes i have. I have been using steam since it launched rgith before HL2 came out.
    ThelawLaidlaw is my steam name.

    #35 4 years ago
  36. Kuwabara

    IT’S FUNNY how ur live fees are going to shit like twitter, facebook, radio stations, kinnect ( 500 million!!!). Where the hell are your first party exclusives.!! What about future third party exclusives? And party chat? plz. party chat are for idiots who dnt know the menaing of single player gaming. When u play single player games, u ought to be immersed, not chatting with a friend. You can chat before a game, after a game, or during multiplayer on ps3, so party chat my arse. Theres no integrity from xbox, charging for xbox live!! 4 gig console!! only official hard drives etc

    #36 4 years ago
  37. Michael O’Connor

    The fact that so many people care *this* much about a tiny name change is hilarious…

    #37 4 years ago
  38. Crysis

    ONLY reason i purchased GOLD was for Halo Reach, & i’m a little angry about this cap they have right now, i don’t have for ever to play on their game, i only purchased a 3 month sub.
    Now, XBL is better than PSN, it’s a fact, but whether it’s enough to pay for is the question, here in Australia, after pruchasing a 12 month sub, you would have spent $10 more than if you bought a PS3.
    Other than Party chat, which IMO isn’t great, but many would disagree, there is nothing Gold subscribers can do that PSN users can’t for free so i buy all my multiplat games for my PS3 (unless they’re broken, very few cases now though) that way i can play & don’t feel oblidged to re-obtain another Gold sub.
    Honestly, IMO, all Sony need to do is improve the social interface & PSN is just as good as XBL, sure XBL has a fair few exclusives, but you don’t get them for free if you’re Gold, so let me reitirate once more, XBL only bonus is the social interface.
    All laggy experiances are near identical (i’ve tried several multiplat on both, if it’s horrible on one, it’s just as horrible on the other)
    & most excuses for why XBL is better is because of exclusive deals for downloadable content/games, which isn’t free either, just means it only pops up on the one service.

    #38 4 years ago
  39. lexph3re

    Well to be honest micheal I am upset because I myself am looking for a reason to buy a 360. I am not into the halo games, gears, or fable so I look to the features. And, the biggest turn off for the 360 is the lack of online options for free. Seeing a title change like this is very misleading since silver is the default subscription your at before you go Gold.

    A title change like this is just wrong a completely misleading to the average consumer. For me features like cross game chat doesn’t justify the 60 dollar tag. I want to know what ever game I would play if it has an online option I can just get online with it. I don’t want to have to pay to play SSF4 or Tekken. That’s bull, I wouldn’t even want to pay to play an FPS. A title change like this made me feel like xbox stood a chance with me. But, all it turned out to be is a cosmetic change.

    #39 4 years ago
  40. Crysis

    @lexph3re, All 360 exclusive features requires Gold &/or seperate subscription, only reason to get an 360 over a PS3 is if you love Halo/Gears/Fable, or you just want a cheap gaming console with no intention of going online, this is just my opinion ofc, but i personally see no other reason to get a 360, maybe if your mates all have a 360 & you wish to play CoD with them, but unlike the PS3 it requires a Gold sub. The reason i got a 360 in the first place, but i also like halo/gears/fable & the PS3 costs 2.5 X as much @ the time. After my current sub runs out, i won’t likely get Gold again, in the long run, it is actually pretty damn expensive.

    #40 4 years ago
  41. MushroomStamp

    I’ll spend $60 on one trip to the bar.. and thats a slow nights. The world is expensive. For the People that get upset at paying for Live, maaannn.. I would hate to hear you talk about your smartphone charges.

    #41 4 years ago
  42. Crysis

    My phone cost me the same price as a single month for owning a smart phone, i’m just not materialistic about phones, i need it to call, text & recieve phone calls, aslong as it can do that, i’m fine, things like bluetooth, cameras, mp3/4 playback, all just add-ons to me (luckily my cheap phone can do all of that, well not mp4 playback, well it can, but it’s pretty damn shit)

    #42 4 years ago
  43. Jan

    #lexph3re

    Go where your friends are, but yearh Cross chatting is a fucking big deal, and you can easy find 40/50$ 12 month gold live.

    http://www.buy.com/prod/xbox-live-12-month-gold-subscription-card-gold-membership/q/loc/108/211086907.html

    http://www.remsalesltd.com/xbox-live-12-month.html

    #43 4 years ago
  44. OlderGamer

    Some of you Euros need to consider that when comparing online services, your own max speeds may well be caped. In that there is tremendous difference between LIVE and PSN(I own em both, use em both), but if your craptastic internet connection can’t allow you the experience the difference.

    Let me be clear. I have Zero Lag on LIVE. Zero. As in none. Once in awhile(durring the xmass season) I experience a hicup when playing on LIVE. When playing on PSN I experience lag frequently. Be it streaming from Netflix, long ass downloads, or playing games. And yes I have played UC2 online.

    Everyones online experience is going to be 100% tied into their ISP/connect speed. Your only as fast as your slowest link.

    But if your useing a slow connection speed, toyou there may well seem like there is no difference between LIVE and PSN.

    I have a friend that pigie backs his LIVE connection off of a PC. He has to there is no broadband where he lives. He uses AOL Dial Up. Funny as hell to hear him bitch about the lag and put down MS/LIVE. Listening to you some of you folks reminds me of him.

    I do not have a killer super ubber connect speed. I connect at 10m/sec. Standard Road Runner for my area. I could upgrade that by an extra 50%, but money is tight. At my speed LIVE cruises along w/o a hitch. PSN doesn’t. Same connect speed, I use wired(psst NEVER use wireless for top speed), and use the same cord/router/evrything.

    The PS3 is just slower online. Period.

    It is not so bad you can’t play it or enjoy it. You can play lag free, mostly. And it is free. So there is really no point to bitching about it either way.

    Besides if you have a crap isp and can’t tell the difference, what is the point of paying for thebetter one, when to you, they perform the same?

    #44 4 years ago
  45. Filofax

    @44 “The PS3 is just slower online. Period” for you maybe, for me it performs just as good as Xbox Live. Remember everyone will have different experiences with PSN and Xbox Live, and you stating something as fact does not make it so.

    #45 4 years ago
  46. reask

    Ok I will admit my evidence is anecdotal but that has been my experience.
    both consoles sit side by side wired in to the same router.

    People say x chat is no big deal?
    I have to get black ops for 360 or the little one will be in to the mam to protest and look for her own copy.
    I personally could care less about it but to the younger ones it is important as they have grown up with social networking.

    So to conclude and answer the very vocal outbursts concerning the differences between both.

    I can drive from Dublin to Cork in a fiesta or a BMW.
    Both will probably get me there in the same time.
    But the Beemer will be the better experience. ;)

    #46 4 years ago
  47. freedoms_stain

    @44, in this day of p2p gaming lag is 99.9% of the time down to your connection to the guy hosting the game.

    If his connection sucks, everyone lags, if he’s really far away from you then you’re more at risk from lag.

    I don’t know why people are comparing Live and PSN for lag, they have practically nothing to do with in-game lag.

    #47 4 years ago
  48. OlderGamer

    Where I notice the biggest drop off in speed is when I download something on my PS3. Always takes far longer then it should.

    In game lag is there from time to time on PS3. It isn’t a deal breaker. I use my PS3 a lot, and a lot more then I used to. Its not a big deal.

    “@44 “The PS3 is just slower online. Period” for you maybe, for me it performs just as good as Xbox Live. Remember everyone will have different experiences with PSN and Xbox Live, and you stating something as fact does not make it so.”

    No to sound like an ass, but in this case yes it does make it so.

    Look fanboyism will only take someone so far. And certian things are always going to be contestable. Like what game is better. Becuase the word better is subjective. Its very nature implies biasism. In short someones opinion.

    However, if two people look at a BMW(barrowing from reask :) ) And one person loves BMWs and the other person hates BMWs, neither person can claim that the color of the car is anything but what it is. I assume black(BMW + Black = nice nice!). The point being the care color can’t change simply because one person looking at it doesn’t like the kind of car it is.

    Fast is fast and lag is lag. The only thing you can do is call me a lier. I am not, simple as that.

    Look back at what I said first off. If your isp speed doesn’t allow you to see the difference between the PSN and LIVE. Its your ISP. You shouldn’t conclude that both are exactly the same. Besides to you it won’t matter anyways. Not like you have the option to improve your isp speed when your playing one system vs playing the other.

    I said what i said, because so many of the folks I hear say that PSN = LIVE live in Euro. As a whole, your isps are slower then ours(NA). Thus your experience is going to be capped regaurdless of what system your using.

    Sad truth is I prolly have a better PSN experience then people in that situation too. Like Freedom said, mostly this is an isp issue. However inferstructure(sp?) and design of the service(PSN/XBL/Wii) whatever will also play an important roll. You might have trouble finding or connecting to a room/match/game on PSN, but once your conected, your game experience runs smoothly. Alot goes into it.

    In my experience, in the experience of EVERYone I know and have meet face to face, the answer to this question is always the same XBL>PSN.

    And to answer the question of a few in this thread, That is why so many people seem like they are crazy and prefer to pay for LIVE rather then play exclusivly on PSN. They can see the difference.

    #48 4 years ago

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