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Top Gear and Forza Motorsport join forces for multi-year collaboration and Forza 3 Ultimate Collection

Thursday, 30 September 2010 16:19 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

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Microsoft has announced the Forza Motorsport 3: Ultimate Collection, which is to be released next month, along with a multi-year collaboration with Top Gear.

The deal will see BBC’s Top Gear brand integration in future versions of Forza Motorsport products while delivering a number of co-promotions that will provide fans of both to engage in both brands.

“Bringing together Top Gear and Forza Motorsport is a natural fit,” said Dan Greenawalt, franchise director at Turn 10. “Top Gear is all about automotive passion and playing around with cars which is exactly what we deliver with Forza Motorsport games. We are looking forward to collaborating with their team to bring some of what they do so well on television to our game design process.”

“It’s incredibly exciting to be teaming up with such a big name game,” added Andy Wilman, creative director at Top Gear. “I fear we’ll have to be a bit more ambitious and a bit less rubbish when dealing with these chaps.”

The first part of this collaboration will be through 90 minutes of specially edited Top Gear TV content plus access to the Stig’s Garage Car Pack, all downloadable exclusively through Xbox Live, as part of the new Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection.

Here’s what’s all included:

  • The original Forza 3
  • All previously released add-ons bringing the total car count to 500 along with 100 track configurations
  • Xbox Live downloadable content card with three new cars as part of Stig’s Garage Car Pack (Koenigsegg CCX, LEXUS LFA, Mercedes Benz SLS-AMG)
  • A 90-minute Top Gear video with Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May
  • Xbox LiveTheme featuring Top Gear.

Forza Motorsport 3: Ultimate Collection will be available in the UK starting October 29.

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71 Comments

  1. JopDiga

    Gran Turismo 5 vs Forza Motorsport 3: Ultimate Collection… interesting (not really).

    Even the next Forza won’t have more than 1000 cars and graphics like GT5 has. Rain, snow, night racing, F1, NASCAR, Go Kart… THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATION!

    #1 4 years ago
  2. Fantastic

    No such thing as Realistic Driving VIDEO GAME.

    Why?

    Because of the words VIDEO GAME.

    GT and Forza fan need to get off of their soap boxes, and understand that they aren’t play some higher form of racing game. Some fucking ego trip you people get yourself on.

    But as it stands, with what is offered no doubt about it:

    GT5 > Forza(anything, at this point).

    The only upshot for Forza fans is that they actualy get to play their game.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. theevilaires

    The Forza Legacy just keeps on trying. Its a fun game but I think its pretty safe to say that anyone who chooses this over GT5 if they can only afford one and have both consoles is a XBOT.

    GT5 photo mode alone (for me) kicks Forza to the curb.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Psychotext

    3 posts, 3 GT5 references. I love it. :D

    (Actually, make that 4 now!)

    #4 4 years ago
  5. Gadzooks!

    Personally I couldn’t be less interested in GT5. It may look nice but it isn’t going to deliver on the one thing that matter most to me: The driving. Forza is, and will remain, completely unrivalled when it comes to handling realism.

    Good to see that there will be continued support for Forza, and hopefully the Top Gear association will see even more DLC become available.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. cookiejar

    Yep, its nice to see Forza still getting some love (Although I’d rather have a new PGR)

    But yeah GT5 all the way. Sorry :)

    #6 4 years ago
  7. LOLshock94

    yeah but forza 3 is fun gt5 boring as hell

    does kinect work for this

    #7 4 years ago
  8. Erthazus

    @7 Can you give me your copy of Gran Turismo 5? :D

    #8 4 years ago
  9. cookiejar

    @7 Well there was some pre shot footage at E3 of someone opening cars doors and ‘pretending’ to drive it. It did make you look a bit of a dick, so probably.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. Gadzooks!

    @7

    Kinect support is on the way. I’d like to see headtracking and menu navigation, but pretend steering wheels and door opening can go jump in front of a bus, IMO.

    #10 4 years ago
  11. theevilaires

    @4 it was imminent.

    @5 keep living in denial

    @ everyone else don’t listen to #5

    @ M$ how much?

    #11 4 years ago
  12. joshua nash

    it’s the stig, i wonder if he plays race games, and wonder how many people have gotten school by the stig in a mp race, i also wonder which host of top gear the stig likes the most, he probably likes jeremy the most with richard being second and james “captain slow” may being dead last, or i could be over thinking this just like james may, which must mean that i watch way to much top gear…..ummmm i thought about it and No i don’t watch to much top gear in fact i need to watch even more top gear so much more that my head will start looking like the stig’s helmet

    #12 4 years ago
  13. Massiveslag

    @12

    It’s all gone a bit Virginia Woolf mate. Try turning Dave off.

    #13 4 years ago
  14. spiderLAW

    @5 hahaha! that was a good joke. Ever think of doing stand up?

    Although, GT3>Forza>GT4 in terms of driving.
    GT3>GT4>Froza in terms of everything else.
    My prediction, GT5> every car game, be it simulator or arcade or both, in existence.

    #14 4 years ago
  15. Gadzooks!

    @14

    It’s a matter of preference. I prefer the realism that Forza brings compared to the visuals and collectable elements of GT, and I’ve spent enough time racing my own car to know which game models handling in the most realistic manner.

    #15 4 years ago
  16. Erthazus

    @15 I’m sure for 100% that you are Don Matricks “Sucky-Sucky” 5$ cheap whore. Doing blowjobs every dinner.

    But seriously,that was another bullshit at the level of “Xbox 360 support more 3D TV’s than PS3 because Invincible Tiger is a prove”

    “and I’ve spent enough time racing my own car”

    so you are a programmer, racer… I mean man… Even a slightest Racing simulation fan knows that no matter what car you have, handling, driving and e.t.c. for different cars are absolutely different.

    What a dickhead and disgrace for your Xbot Defence force, seriously :D

    #16 4 years ago
  17. OwningXylophone

    @16 So he is wrong for saying he ‘prefers’ Forza… I’m just wondering how opinion can be wrong and just how all of you guys know how GT5 will play even though it’s not actually out yet. I own both consoles and in my OPINION F3>F2>GT5P, GT5 looks sweet, but I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve actually payed the game. Plus I know a few racing drivers who all think Forza is far more accurate representation of racing than GT1-5P.

    At least they have finally made it so the cars look like they are actually driving on the track for GT5 rather than floating a few mil above it.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. Erthazus

    @17 “So he is wrong for saying he ‘prefers’ Forza”

    Of course not. He just need to stop “stealth trolling”.

    #18 4 years ago
  19. mike3648

    Do you get the Top Gear Track in Forza pack???? And is videos new or old Top Gear videos?

    #19 4 years ago
  20. spiderLAW

    @15
    I honestly thought you were joking.

    I can say the exact same thing.
    I have raced with cars ranging from simple 4 cylinders like the Ford Focus ZX3 to 4C Vtech Honda Civic Si, to Rotary Engines like the RX-7 FD to Datsun 510, to V8 monsters like the Shelby GT500, and have driven my Uncle in-laws custom built 1,000HP RX3 Rotary (holds the 1/4 mile record at Irwindale Speedway for 8.2 seconds) and i can say from experience that GT3 has the most realistic driving experience yet.
    What i did like that Forza did obviously better than GT is the engine/motor sounds. The NSX sounded like the NSX, the RX-7 sounded like an RX-7, etc. Every car sounded exactly how they should. I could tell what car it was while blind folded just from listening to the sound. And the fact that you can do motor swaps really made me enjoy the game.
    But again, GT>Forza in terms of realistic driving. Hopefully GT5 will include exact engine and motor sounds and motor swapping. Then Forza will have absolutely NOTHING on GT ever again.

    #20 4 years ago
  21. itsucks

    ErzaTWATzus, cashing in checks from $ony since 2005 (when is butthurt ass was rapped by Kaz “Riiiiidge Raaaaacer” Hirai).

    #21 4 years ago
  22. M2Kx

    I should get some pop corn huh?

    #22 4 years ago
  23. DSB

    @20 That’s exactly what’s always annoyed me about GT. The engine sounds are completely horrible. Why spend millions of hours meticulously modelling cars when you just put in some terrible droning noise for an engine?

    Traditionally they also have a huge problem balancing the cars once you start modding them, and the AI just isn’t worth a damn. Forza has the same problems, but to a lesser extent, I always felt like the races were more dynamic because of it. The paint feature is also awesome.

    That being said, GT5 should really turn out to be the best sim-style racing game ever made. Anything less would be a disaster.

    #23 4 years ago
  24. Gadzooks!

    “But again, GT>Forza in terms of realistic driving.”

    No. Nowhere near. Unless you are talking about fairground bumpercars.

    GT does not do realism. It does car porn. Very different things.

    #24 4 years ago
  25. albo88

    lol look at this niggers ps3 fanboys are the worse idiots ever seen in my life they also say halo is a game for kids but they cry when little big planet 2 got deleyed lmfao get a life you dip shit you dont hate the games you hate them cos they on 360 and hating over a machine witch at the end of the day is just metal and plastic is fucking pathetic
    any of this queers here will play forza 3 if that was on ps3 trust me on that

    #25 4 years ago
  26. spiderLAW

    @25
    First of all. Shut the hell up with that disgusting Derogatory shit you just posted you asshole. If you cant comment without being a complete dumbass dick, don’t post at all.
    Secondly, i do play Forza and still prefer GT. I have owned all mainstream gaming consoles since NES and never blame a game for its faults on the system its made for. I criticize the game itself. GT3>any forza ever made in terms of realistic driving.
    Thirdly, everyone needs to stop with this fanboy name calling shit. If a person prefers a game or console over the other it doesn’t mean that they are a fanboy…it just means that they have a fucking opinion like the rest of you do. It’s called being a human.

    @24 That’s your inexperienced opinion. GT3 and GT4 both do realistic driving but GT3 does it better. Forza does realistic driving too but GT3 does it better in my Experienced opinion.

    #26 4 years ago
  27. Gekidami

    A ban is in order for albo88 me thinks.

    And you’re all wrong. Big Rigs is the ultimate driving sim.

    #27 4 years ago
  28. DaMan

    he wasn’t, he basically implied the same as theevil back when someone accused them of being racist.

    #28 4 years ago
  29. Psychotext

    “GT3 > any forza ever made in terms of realistic driving”

    I’m going to assume you haven’t actually played Forza 3, but aside from that, the cars were much, much easier to drive in GT3 vs GT4, that sure as shit doesn’t make it more realistic though (for a start, GT3 seemed to completely ignore a significant amount of understeer that a lot of cars suffer from at speed. Cars were way too grippy, even arcade like).

    That aside, what the fuck? Are people so obsessed that they can’t leave a Forza thread as a Forza thread, or a Killzone thread as a Killzone thread (for example)? You don’t have to run in screaming about GT, CoD etc.

    Oh and albo88, get back under your rock you ignorant, hateful little cunt.

    #29 4 years ago
  30. spiderLAW

    @29
    I am currently playing Forza 3 while i wait for GT5
    although i havent really touched it in a while though. Never said Forza was bad. Just that Gadzooks! Had to go and say that GT5 isnt going to deliver in the Driving aspect of the game so i chimed in thinking that he was joking. After he told me he wasnt, then i decided to give him some racing knowledge.

    And i agree. We should leave articles and its comments section to the topic on which it is meant for.

    #30 4 years ago
  31. LordCancer

    so when do americans get the ultimate edition?

    #31 4 years ago
  32. reask

    spiderLAW said:
    And i agree. We should leave articles and its comments section to the topic on which it is meant for.

    Nah too boring m8. :)

    #32 4 years ago
  33. reask

    On a realistic note though Spider I have no doubt GT5 will be excellent.

    I mean ffs it has taken longer to make this game than the great wall of China.

    I mean how long has it been in development for?
    At least Forza is out there.

    And BTW to an earlier comment.
    I actually thought PGR4 was a great game and that is coming from some one who does not play racing games.

    The problem surrounding most if not all of these discussions imho is that everyone who trys to defend there preferred console seems to come up short.

    Let me elaborate a wee bit please.

    UC2 on PS3.
    Excellent game all round imo.
    mw2 sp meh imo
    mw2 multi, excellent imo in fact I would go as far as saying it has raised the ball for multi.
    I could make a list but dont feel the need to.
    Bottom line been game play and fun over graphics win every time bar none.
    Think about it.
    I mean is halo reach graphics wise any better than mw2?
    No.
    So why are these 2 games top dog?

    Plain and simple really. FUN
    So when Forza is put down by the PS bots nobody really cares.
    I mean I have the 3 almost a year and still do most of my gaming on 360 so why?

    Because it is what it is and nothing else.
    I love the 3 and realise its strenghts but at the end of the day I game to enjoy.

    #33 4 years ago
  34. theevilaires

    DaMan said: he wasn’t, he basically implied the same as theevil back when someone accused them of being racist.

    WTF are you talking about asshole. I never called anyone a racial slur. I pointed out the asian culture features and called them idiots. I said nothing racist but others took offense because i only stated the Japanese race. if I had said Chinese I’m sure those Japanese people who accused me wouldn’t have said a peep.

    Thats the difference between me and ALBO88. Its sad that morons like you can’t see the difference and shows just how ignorant you are. Seems your parents didn’t raise you right you dumb fuck. Maybe they are racist too. What part of EURO are you from you piece of shit.

    #34 4 years ago
  35. DaMan

    wow, you’re a really dumb hypocrite.

    you did completely the same back then, calling them a certain word, I remember that clear as day. that word had everything to do with the race and nothing with culture.

    and racism is when you intentionally use derogatory names for someone of a certain race. neither of you actually did that. come to think of it, that albo did it even less than yourself.

    #35 4 years ago
  36. theevilaires

    what word was that you fucking liar, your ass did not. I don’t even remember you posting in there. You’re full of shit. I have never called anyone here by a “racial slur”

    You have no idea what you’re talking about douce.

    #36 4 years ago
  37. DaMan

    … you really don’t understand a shit. you know the word, I’m not going to post it.

    shut the fuck up, what the fuck are you arguing about?? seriously.. I said that you clearly didn’t want to sound racist back then, yet you insist that you did absolutely nothing now. google that Itagaki article. guess why stuff was removed from your posts?

    stupid fuck. I didn’t post there because others already started wasting their time trying to argue with you.

    #37 4 years ago
  38. theevilaires

    Yea i will Google it you asshole cause I didn’t say anything racist at all.

    #38 4 years ago
  39. DaMan

    here it is:

    http://www.vg247.com/2010/08/09/itagaki-japanese-games-industry-is-dying/comment-page-1/

    #39 4 years ago
  40. Kuwabara

    fucking xbox 360 microsoft bastards. they think they can steal abit of the success from sony and gt5 next month.. lol. Forza will forever be SHIT compared to gran turismo, in every category.

    #40 4 years ago
  41. OwningXylophone

    @33

    Before this thread went somewhat off topic you asked when the ultimate collection would be out in the USA, well I found this on the full press release:-

    ““Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection” is available in the United States and Canada starting October 26, 2010; United Kingdom and Germany starting October 29, 2010; Japan starting November 11, 2010 and other countries and regions in early 2011.”

    So you actually get it 3 days before the Europeans

    #41 4 years ago
  42. theevilaires

    Ok make another account and fill in the blanks you dumb ass I didn’t say anything racist if I had ended my insults by saying Chinese instead of Japanese none of that would have even started and Garratt made it clear that if anyone said anything racist after that day he would ban them.

    Personally I don’t care as words have no affect on me, but its what Garratt said so hopefully he sticks to his word.

    #42 4 years ago
  43. DaMan

    stupid bitch. you don’t understand a crap, and all you care is your fucking internet rep. nobody gives a shit about you, child.

    do you think all I want here is to make your stupid ass look even more stupid?? do you even realize what I’m talking about? seriously.

    you called them a completely similar term as that albo above. why the fuck should i post that, when the link says it all. to offend all the asians reading this? fuck off.

    everyone here remembers that, it wouldn’t be removed if it wasn’t offensive. pathetic bitch.

    #43 4 years ago
  44. theevilaires

    AHAHAHAHAHA you dumb fool a lot of people did not see the original post as they most likely didn’t give a fuck about reading the same topic about the Japanese games industry dying blah blah blah sad story.

    Do you even know what a racial slur is you dumb ass. Its a word specifically made up to disrespect a culture or race of people. I call a group of people dumb jack asses and then defined them by describing a cultural feature. The design off their eyes which is a fact….unlike a racial slur which ALBO88 said above.

    Once again I could care less what he said, but its what you said that has me attacking you like this. Don’t ever lie on me to protect your racist friends dude. Like I said many parts of Europe are known to be heavily racist and now we all know you come from one of those sections. If you think what ALBO88 said was ok then by all means my friend come visit Harlem NY or Brooklyn and say those very words and watch the C.S.I. have a hell of a time putting the pieces of your body back together.

    I HAVE NEVER CALLED ANYONE HERE A RACIST SLUR, BUT I HAVE INSULTED MANY PEOPLE. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE EVEN THOUGH BOTH ARE STILL WRONG. ONE IS JUST TAKING IT TOO FAR. BUT LIKE I SAID I DON’T CARE WHAT HE SAID OR IF GARRATT ACTS ON IT. IT WAS YOU THAT GOT ME TO THIS POINT BY INVOLVING ME INTO SOMETHING I DIDN’T DO. GO FUCK YOURSELF DAMAN.

    #44 4 years ago
  45. DaMan

    fool. the only liar here is yourself.

    first, the word you used had to do with their race, not culture.. you truly are moronic. color of the skin is also a fact. AND it was derogatory.

    second, I said that neither of you meant to sound racist, not that it ‘s okay to use those names. but albo wasn’t even talking about blacks, so he did it even less than yourself.

    #45 4 years ago
  46. theevilaires

    WHAT WAS THE WORD I SAID!? COME ON SAY IT AND I PROMISE YOU I’LL GIVE GARRATT $1000 JUST SO HE WON’T BAN YOU IF YOU REPEAT WHAT I SAID YOU FUCKING LIAR!

    #46 4 years ago
  47. DarkElfa

    Let’s get a ban in here for albo88 and TEA. Albo88 for his racial slur and TEA because I’m way past sick of his never ending fanboy flame wars bullshit and his frackin “HAHAHAHA” crap that he feels the need to put in too often. I like liberal, but this crap is past stupid now.

    #47 4 years ago
  48. DaMan

    see, this is why people don’t bother arguing with you. typical angsty twat, that keeps defending his rep no matter what. and then keeps saying he has a huge real life.

    you described their eyes in a derogatory form. you then mentioned some facts from their history in a certain insulting manner. so yes, you also insulted their nation. but that’s beside the racism point.

    also, it’s called ‘racism’ because it has to do with racial features. culture has nothing to do with it.. you fail to grasp the simplest things. there’s also such thing as being nationalistic. do some research.

    fuck off..

    #48 4 years ago
  49. spiderLAW

    Okay everbody needs to just shut up already

    Nobody needs to be banned but i do feel a suspension is in order for just albo88. He has commented with offensive terms in the past and now he has used a very racist words among some very raw vulgarity in one sinlge comment.
    Garrat specifically stated that any FURTHER racism that is used on this site will result in an immediate ban and Albo88, no matter how much you defend him DaMan, clearly did use an offensive racist slur in a derogatory manner (he clearly used it as an insult). But again, i dont think a ban is completely necessary and a temporary suspension of his rights to comments on articles should be enough.

    #49 4 years ago
  50. DaMan

    I don’t defend him. fact is that he didn’t use it when speaking about certain race.

    if i were Pat i’d ban them both tbh. not permaban, but for a month i think.

    #50 4 years ago
  51. theevilaires

    Sad that you just admit you can’t take me down with your stupidity :D …a month ban….yea cause everyone will flock to your comments and give a fuck what your opinion on things are LMAO!

    #51 4 years ago
  52. DarkElfa

    Bullshit Spider, how long to we have to listen to TEA’s never ending shit parade? He’s a fucking death troll and its his only existence here. He turn’s nearly every 360 story into a flame war due to his fanboy trolling and when he’s not doing that he spurns these never ending thread conflicts which always involve at least one hysterical “HAHAHAHA”. When is it going to be enough?!

    *edit* see above for further reference of douche baggery.

    #52 4 years ago
  53. theevilaires

    well you don’t have to worry about reading anything I post anymore DarkElfa. I’m done posting. Tired of the constant BS and you fools trying to have me banned. Consider this an early Christmas present.

    #53 4 years ago
  54. DaMan

    if you weren’t such an attention seeking dick, you would just fuck off without posting all the melodrama.

    you’re delusional again, I was commenting on what spider said, I don’t care if your sorry ass is here or not. I can’t remember the last time I was talking to you until today, I’ve learned to skip trolls’ comments long ago.

    #54 4 years ago
  55. spiderLAW

    obviously i care for the people that are here (friends? fellow human being? kind of way) and thats why i dont think anybody should be banned but some sort of disciplinary act should be applied.

    Do you guys not se how you talk to each other?
    So much disrespect and thats the sickening part of it all.
    it doesnt matter who is wrong or who is right when it comes down to the arguement.
    There was a serious offender in this thread and he/she should be pointed out to the moderators and thats it. Whatever they do from there is THEIR business.
    Bashing on each other for paragraphs upon paragraphs is just immature and should end now.

    I would like to make an example. LOLshock’s statement on the announcement of RDR’s zombie mode was extremely vulgar, entirely unecessary and so i pointed it out to Garrat. LOLshock is constantly spoiling game and movie stories and always posts vulgar nonsense. Wha did Garrat tell me about my complaint “He is just excited is all. First word that came to my mind was Vagina” and so i edited my comment on the matter “K, nevermind then.”

    Nobody here should try and play the almighty and pass judgement on anyone. Only part any of us should play during these kinds of situations is to state your opinion and point on the matter, make it clear and then thas it. There shouldnt be name calling (ive done it once, to albo88 in this article, and i shouldnt have. I should have simply stated my opinion on his comment), swearing at each other, and threats.

    Hopefully you guys can all understand this.

    #55 4 years ago
  56. DaMan

    I don’t really see all the internet folks I’ve talked to as equally friends. and whether you like it or not, these human beings differ a lot.

    we all get carried away as well, that’s fine.

    I actually believe a PM function would be great for this site.

    #56 4 years ago
  57. LordCancer

    @OwningXylophone thanks.

    I don’t think anyone should be banned. All that accomplishes is leaving you a site with just a bunch of pussies left over kinda like ripten. Plus I’d eventually be banned myself and I don’t like that.

    I think the fierce competition between forza and gran turismo is a good thing if it push the developers to improve each game. I think this is a situation where we all win because both series have improved. Certainly forza has, the first was atrocious. I’m excited to pick up the ultimate edition, I love the cockpit views.

    So I propose a solution to all this bitterness, this gt vs forza. Lets all have a round of beers or three and make fun of todd howard. problem solved.

    #57 4 years ago
  58. spiderLAW

    Exactly. We all might “differ a lot” but like you said, we are human beings. Just remember that. Every person behind a keyboard commenting on this site is in fact just that, a person, a human being. Im just saying some level of respect should be applied.

    Whether anyone likes it or not, this is a community of sorts. It can all go to shit if we let it, especially by contributing to the crapper whether we think we are right or wrong.

    Yes a PM would be great for these little, or more over the top, arguements.

    #58 4 years ago
  59. DaMan

    not everyone is equally.. nice, even if you look at it as just a community. so I don’t think it’s okay to treat everyone the same, that’s what I meant. although I agree with you in the sense that people get carried away.

    also, spider I suppose you didn’t know but to be honest I think they can’t suspend accounts or do anything like that. they can delete them altogether, that’s about it I believe.

    #59 4 years ago
  60. LordCancer

    @58 I agree.

    #60 4 years ago
  61. DarkElfa

    Well, shit. TEA’s response to my post actually made me feel bad that I said that stuff. Fine, I apologize TEA, you don’t have to leave, just try and take it easier on us, we all have those bad days.

    #61 4 years ago
  62. Kuwabara

    Tea is right about pretty much every thing relating to xbox 360. the console is inferior to ps3 and I’m willing to have a propper debate, if anyone is up to the challenge. For those of u who preffer the xbox360, you’re idiots.

    #62 4 years ago
  63. Gadzooks!

    “That’s your inexperienced opinion. GT3 and GT4 both do realistic driving but GT3 does it better. Forza does realistic driving too but GT3 does it better in my Experienced opinion.”

    Ah, so you resort to making personal attacks. How very mature, exactly what I would expect from someone posting ‘my console has better games than yours’ comments in a thread on a game for a platform you clearly have no interest in, other than to troll.

    For your information I have more than enough real world track experience to make an informed judgement on how well in-game handling relates to on-track handling.

    I have raced and dragged my modified ST185 GT-Four many times, I did all the non-bodywork related modification and maintenance myself, including 2 full engine rebuilds, so I know for a fact that I have the experience and knowledge to make an informed decision.

    Tell me this: To what level of detail does GT model tyre wall flex? Whereabouts in the GT interface can you track driver G-forces?

    Oh, and please provide me a real life example of racers using other cars and roadside barriers to bounce thier way round the track, whilst incurring no damage to thier cars and the impact having no effect on handling or performance.

    The fact is that the GT series was once considered ‘sim’ but the definition of ‘sim’ has been moved to another level by the likes of Forza and Race Pro, but the GT series has not moved in the same direction.

    GT does what it does well. What it does not do is realism.

    Feel free to respond with how you have raced in an F1 car or whatever bullshit you feel you need to achieve a satisfactory level of trolling.

    #63 4 years ago
  64. LordCancer

    @62 some of us just made the wrong decision based on having enjoyed an xbox, why wouldn’t you buy an xbox 360? I’d like to petition that a buy me a ps3 fund be created. lol

    #64 4 years ago
  65. Erthazus

    “For your information I have more than enough real world track experience to make an informed judgement on how well in-game handling relates to on-track handling.”

    Don’t forget people, that old fuck had experience with Oric-1 PC too :D

    “I have raced and dragged my modified ST185 GT-Four many times”

    Toyota Celica? Prove pic or it never happen.

    “The fact is that the GT series was once considered ’sim’ but the definition of ’sim’ has been moved to another level by the likes of Forza and Race Pro, but the GT series has not moved in the same direction.”

    You obviously never played Gran Turismo 5 prologue. There are more Simulation than entire Forza 3 experience have.
    The fact is simple: There is auto tracking.

    If you call that simulation than you are a complete Xbot. GT series from the first game never had that and never will have that.

    So the one who is trolling here is you only. + GT5 is not out there. From what i saw there are A-Spec and B-Spec that rapes everything what “Something Sim” Forza developers made.
    That is at the level of iRacing, rFactor, X Motor Racing and of course you never played it. You don’t know about racing sim games nothing.

    #65 4 years ago
  66. spiderLAW

    Wow Gadzooks! you really dont pay any attention do you.

    “Ah, so you resort to making personal attacks. How very mature, exactly what I would expect from someone posting ‘my console has better games than yours’ comments in a thread on a game for a platform you clearly have no interest in, other than to troll.” – Im sure that anybody that reads my comments on this site can honestly vouch for me and say that i have no interest in which console is better. I have made it clear from the beginning that i have all 4 consoles (PC,PS3,360, Wii) and enjoy each one’s stregnths. Also, if you stop picking out only small portions of my comments, you would have read that “I like FORZA” and “I am playing FORZA 3 right now while i wait for GT5″ Open your eyes, or mind, just a little bit man.
    And arent you the one that said “i know from driving my own car”? That makes me assume that you only drive 1 car which makes you very much inexperienced so maybe next time try to be a little more detailed. I made a comment on what you had said, simple as that. It was no personal attack and if you took it that way, im sorry but that was your mistake.
    If you prefer Forza thats fine, its your opinion. My opinion remains the same GT3>Any Racing Sim

    And lets make this clear as well. YOU Gadzooks! were the one that brought up GT5 in this topic wit your bashing. I hadnt said anything about it until you did. And after all of it i never once bashed on Forza.

    #66 4 years ago
  67. reask

    Ah for Gods sake Tea!!!!!
    You surprise me.
    Getting soft in your old age. ;)

    Besides, who will I wind up now? :)
    Looks like I will have to do it on PSN.

    Any way I reckon the real reason is to give you more time on Halo Reach. ;)

    #67 4 years ago
  68. Gadzooks!

    @spiderLAW

    “Im sure that anybody that reads my comments on this site can honestly vouch for me”

    I read this site every day, and I see you trolling, all the time.

    .

    “I have made it clear from the beginning that i have all 4 consoles”

    So what? It hasnt stopped you trolling. TEA apparently lives to play Reach right now, and he’s the biggest Sony cock loving trolling twat on the face of the planet.

    .

    “Also, if you stop picking out only small portions of my comments, you would have read that “I like FORZA””

    Ah, yes. Throwing a little tidbit to make it look like you are not just having a massive troll. Very transparent, you arent fooling anyone.

    .

    “It was no personal attack and if you took it that way, im sorry but that was your mistake.”

    Bullshit. You knew exactly what you were doing. Comment on your own experience, and don’t pretend to know the first thing about my experience.

    .

    “And lets make this clear as well. YOU Gadzooks! were the one that brought up GT5 in this topic wit your bashing.”

    Are you fucking blind? I can only assume so, as the first 3 comments in this thread are from trolling pricks talking about GT when GT is completely irrelevant to the subject.

    I know how GT plays. I have played it from the original GT right up to the time trial, so my comment was 100% accurate. GT5 does not interest me because it does not deliver on a realistic driving experience, and I prefer my racing with a touch of realism.

    If you dont like that people have an opinion that doesnt revolve around the zealous worship of your favourite corporation then might I suggest you fuck off with your pathetic sarcastic comments to somewhere full of sheep of the same persuasion as you?

    Dont bother replying. I wont be reading your posts anymore.

    #68 4 years ago
  69. Madeira

    @62: The superior console is the one that has the superior version of the best game, Bayonetta.

    #69 4 years ago
  70. Gadzooks!

    @Erthazus

    “Don’t forget people, that old fuck had experience with Oric-1 PC too :D”

    WTF! How is this a put-down? Surely it’s just a simple statement of fact. Back when the Oric was in circulation I owned one. Yeah, hilarious and cutting. Insultfail.

    .

    “Toyota Celica? Prove pic or it never happen.”

    Yeah, I own a Celica ST185 like many thousands of other Celica owners in the country. Why the fuck should I post you a pic of anything? I dont want your verification of my car’s existance, let alone need it.

    .

    “You obviously never played Gran Turismo 5 prologue.”

    I have played every GT ever released, except the PSP version.

    .

    “The fact is simple: There is auto tracking.”

    If your simple little brain is trying to say that there is auto braking, traction control and stability control then yes there is. All of which are turned off when I play. You obviously havent played Forza, thus your opinions are null and void.

    “From what i saw there are A-Spec and B-Spec that rapes everything what “Something Sim” Forza developers made.”

    Hilarious, this is classic Erthazus. You dont even know what those modes are. Yet again you try to bullshit your way through a debate, not knowing the first thing about the subject.

    You are a joke, and a bad joke at that.

    #70 4 years ago
  71. spiderLAW

    @ Gadzooks!
    Dont read my comments. That is 100% fine by me.
    You actually think that i would care about that? Pathetic
    To call me a troll, you obviously havent read any of my comments on VG247 in the first place.

    Lets make this clear. If anybody on this entire site is a Troll its You (Gadzooks!), itsucks, and LOLshock. If you want to associate yourself with the likes of them, thats sad.

    I still dont have anything personal against you even though you’ve shown that you can be very naive, ignorant, rude, and have a poor show of character. But if thats the way you like to be, i dont mind ignoring you and you doing the same to me.

    #71 4 years ago

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  • Win! 5 pairs of tickets to the Call of Duty European Championships

    We have five pairs of tickets to giveaway for the Call of Duty European Championships, taking place in London this weekend. The event takes place this Saturday February 28 and Sunday March 1 at the Royal Opera House in Covent Garden. Winners can watch teams will go head to head for a $10,000 prize pot […]

  • Republique Remastered has released on Mac and PC

    Republique Remastered, which was announced earlier this month, is now available for Mac and PC. The game is 20% off through Steam, GOG and the Humble Store for $19.99 until March 4. Thereafter, it will run you $24.99. The Remastered edition contains all five episodes of the game, with 1-3 available now and the remaining […]

  • LA Cops coming to Xbox One in March

    Isometric shooter LA Cops is coming to Xbox One on March 13. Already on Steam Early Access, the game looks like it’s been heavily inspired by Hotline Miami. Walk into a room, open fire, leave bloody puddles in your wake. It’s being published by Team 17. Check out the video below for some 70s cop […]

  • We have $500 of Steam Wallet funds to giveaway!

    We’re giving away 10 Steam Wallet prizes worth $50 each to VG247 readers, courtesy of Bundle Stars. All you need to do to be in with a chance of winning $50 Steam credit is to enter your details below. Join the Bundle Stars Steam group for entry in the sweepstake, and gain extra entries for […]

  • Lapsed Final Fantasy 14 players tempted back with 10 day freebie

    Square is offering lapsed FF 14: A Realm Reborn players a chance to come back to the game for 10 days worth of free adventuring. Provided you’ve already bought and registered an account you’ll be able to play free of charge from Feb 27 to March 9. Square wants you to sample the new content […]

  • Advanced Warfare: Sledgehammer looking at “opportunities” to recreate classic Call of Duty maps

    Sledgehammer Games has told VG247 it’s looking at opportunities to recreate classic Call of Duty maps in Advanced Warfare. According to co-founder Michael Condrey, players of the latest Havoc DLC are asking how Exo abilities and verticality can be added to classic franchise maps. “We’re taking a look at some opportunities to really highlight the […]

  • GTA Online reader playlist week 7: and the winner is…

    Stuff was shot. But only one player emerged victorious. GTA Online player e031271 won last night’s VG247 reader playlist, beating myself, Matt and regulars solidorwot and Revolting. Congratulations, Mr e031271. A deserved victory. We play a GTA Online playlist in an open session every Wednesday on PS4, because it’s both funny and fun. Anyone’s welcome […]

  • Leaked screens reveal The Reef as Destiny’s new “social space”

    A handful of leaked Destiny screens seem to confirm that The Reef location will be the new social space in Destiny. The new addition is likely to be revealed as part of the upcoming House of Wolves expansion. Reddit user Megamanexe4 dropped the screens on the site earlier this morning, along with grabs that reveal […]

  • Darksiders creator teases Battle Chasers game

    Joe Madureira, creator of Darksiders, has released art that strongly suggests a Battle Chasers game is in the works. Battle Chasers was a comic book from the late 1990s that suffered notorious production problems between issues and was never finished. Madureira formed Airship Syndicate after the collapse of THQ, where he co-created Darksiders. His latest […]

  • Infamous video nasty Axe recreated in GTA 5

    The trailer for notorious horror movie Axe has been recreated in GTA 5. The shot for shot remake is the work of gigerbrick who has previously recreated exploitation flicks like Machete and Hostel using Lego. The original Axe movie was banned in 1984 in the UK but passed with cuts in the late 1990s. Movie […]

  • Payday 2 for PS4 and Xbox One includes “a year’s worth of paid DLC” for free

    Payday 2: Crimewave Edition will include a year’s worth of paid DLC from the PC version of the game for free. The new-gen version of the game will be available June 2015, and includes almost all of the paid and free DLC released so far for Overkill’s popular first-person shooter. That DLC includes The Big […]

  • Yes, Mortal Kombat X will require Xbox Live Gold or PS Plus

    Mortal Kombat X won’t bypass Microsoft and Sony’s premium online play requirements. Reports that Mortal Kombat X wouldn’t require PS Plus or Xbox Live Gold started circling earlier this week thanks to a communications error. Answering fan questions on Twitter, producer Shaun Himmerick accidentally gave the impression that premium console subs would not be required […]

  • This is what Destiny players most want next

    Destiny patch 1.1.1 has resolved or at least addressed a number of complaints voiced by the community, but there are plenty more. des Destiny community manage David “Deej” Dague has put out a call for Guardians to share their concerns – or rather, what they think the community is most concerned about. “Set aside your […]

  • Google AI can play games now, so we’re probably all going to die

    Google has brought us one step closer to our inevitable slaughter or enslavement by machine overlords. Google has developed an AI that can learn to play video games and devise brand new strategies. Let me just rephrase that: Google has created an AI that can teach itself new skills, including how to play video games. […]

  • First footage of Renowned Explorers: International Society surfaces

    Renowned Explorers: International Society is a turn-based strategy game from the team behind Reus, and it looks great. Renowned Explorers was announced almost a full year ago, but has been pretty quiet since then. Developer Abbey games has now announced that the game has hit alpha, and will be open to select testers soon. You […]

  • Cities: Skylines developer commits to mod support

    Cities: Skylines will fully support the modding community. Hailing from famously mod-friendly publisher Paradox, Cities: Skylines is a no-brainer for mod support – especially as a lack of mod support is one of the things SimCity was so heavily criticised for when it firts launched. In the developer diary below, Paradox’s Jakob Munthe is joined […]

  • Nosgoth update adds Vanguard, many fixes

    Nosgoth, the free-to-play multiplayer brawler set in the Legacy of Kain universe, has been given a significant makeover. The major feature of the latest Nosogth game update is a new playable human character called the Vanguard. “Equipped with mighty throwing axes and a shield, the Vanguard can take more punishment than any human class that […]

  • Xbox Live Gold 12 month sub $40 on Microsoft store

    Microsoft is offering $20 off 12 month Xbox Live Gold subscriptions at the moment. An Xbox Live Gold 12 month subscription will normally set you back $60, but a Microsoft Store promotion has it on offer for $40. The offer is restricted to the US store. Although you can opt to grab your sub as […]

  • Tomb Raider movie script to be penned by TMNT writer

    Tomb Raider will be Evan Daugherty’s second reboot of an established universe. The Tomb Raider movie reboot has signed on a writer and a distributor. Deadline reports Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Divergent, Snow White And The Huntsman and G.I. Joe 3 writer Daugherty will write the film. Additionally, Warner Bros. has signed on to distribute, […]

  • Shelter 2 pre-orders open, launch trailer debuts early

    Shelter 2 is a game in which you are a mother lynx and must protect a den of kittens. Yes, it’s delightful. Shelter 2 is coming to Mac and PC on March 9. Pre-orders are now available on Steam at 10% off or on GOG.com with a free skin and soundtrack, or 20% off if […]

  • That Batman: Arkham Knight trailer is full of codes

    Batman: Arkham Knight’s trailer is like a Transformer – there’s more than meets the eye. The new Batman: Arkham Knight trailer contains a number of codes. Eagle-eyed users have spotted four so far, and work on cracking their meaning is progressing. According to an /r/games thread rounding up results so far, the codes pertain to […]

  • Assassin’s Creed haystacks won’t save you from a fall

    Assassin’s Creed fans, don’t try this at home. Assassin’s Creed characters can survive falls of almost any distance as long as they aim for the haystacks scattered handily throughout the environment. As you probably deduced from your familiarity with common sense, this isn’t a real thing: falling from heights kills you, the same way a […]

  • Why are people buying PS4 and not Xbox One?

    PS4 is outselling Xbox One – but why? A new report may have the answer. Last month, the PS4 outsold the Xbox One in the US again, returning it to the top of the charts after just two months away. Why? What has caused this reversal in fortunes in Microsoft’s home territory? According to a […]

  • Toejam and Earl are back with a new Kickstarter

    The early 90′s are alive and well in a new bid to bring back Toejam and Earl. Toejam and Earl released for Mega Drive (Genesis, Americans) in 1991, and the eponymous characters went on to count among Sega’s best-known characters. They appeared in a platformer, a light gun shooter and finally a 2002 Xbox game […]

  • New Wander trailer shows off Azertash form

    Wander is a collaborative, non-combat MMO in which you can take on a number of unique forms. Wander players begin as an ambulant tree called an Oren and can progress through several different bodies as they explore the environment, learning its secrets. One of these, which we’d not seen before this trailer, is the amphibious […]