Kudo: “Hardly anyone plays first-person shooters on the PC any more”

51!

http://store.steampowered.com/stats

They don’t play much else than FPS’s, at least.

@50 I believe it. If Steam’s surveys are representative, the old school PC is really failing to sell people on the notion that they need to keep their hardware current. I think it’s time for a rethink.

@51 Whore.

@DSB
“I was talking about the lack of entertaining gameplay”

Very subjective. I liked that gameplay a lot with suit abilities. always wanted a game where you have suit with interesting abilities.
also Crysis have the most impressive shooting mechanics. Impressive AI (sometimes). Thats just a taste mater. I enjoyed it a lot (Second part with aliens kinda sucked, but enjoyed.)

“When people have the option to either invest heavily in PC hardware or pick up a console, that console is gonna be hard to beat. Both play games and both do it well, except a console is a fraction of the price, and less hassle.”

Thats very subjective also. You can buy decent PC for the console price + maybe add few more bucks and connect it to the monitor or LCD TV with gamepad and e.t.c.
More important that games are cheaper, True 1080P much better graphics even for the price of the console.

@41: Reading that made my day.

Thank you good sir!

@53 You can always argue whether Crysis was fun or not, of course that’s subjective. Personally I think it was a hollow shell compared to Far Cry. It was beautiful, but very boring.

The fact is that people aren’t buying PC’s, and they aren’t upgrading the ones they have.

Currently more than 50% of PC gamers are running dualcores or worse, at least if Steam’s surveys are representative.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/cpus/

I’m running a standard i7, which is pretty good value for money, and still I’m in the top 0,05% range of PC owners.

I’m gonna throw my two cents in here,

If I had the chance to get either a great console or top of the line gaming pc it’d be pc any time!

Sure I can play Uncharted for hours on end, but it is still a linear story line. You can say that for all the big games on both consoles. Very few (except LBP maybe) can offer as much depth as a great pc game. Whilst if I sit down and play total war or civ 4 I lose an entire day easily.

When consoles can claim that their RTS and MMO’s can do that then I will never play a pc game again. But I don’t think that’ll happen anytime soon!

And in other news, “hardly anyone” is talking out of their mouths anymore.

Hah what a joke this guy is.

Isnt Counter Strike still like the most played game on Steam? The problem isnt that PC gamers dont play FPS’ any more, its that they dont play/buy new ones.

“buy new ones.”

So true. Especially when 4.5 million MW2 was downloaded at 2009. This year it;s probably 6 million copies already. thats sad.

My steam friends are only playing FPS games at the moment and they’re NOT playing counter-strike (I haven’t seen anyone play CSS for years). L4D2, Team Fortress 2, COD:MW2, BC2 and I’m only listing a few of the them. As for myself, the only time I buy a shooter on a console is if its exclusive to that console and I can’t get it on the PC.

I swear this guy is a hippie! God-Damn Hippies!

/Joeys Kudo

@59 Fair point, but Counter-Strike is hardly just “any old PC game” – It’s the holy grail of online FPS gaming.

It’s worth noting that Modern Warfare 2 is neck and neck with Counter-Strike on any given day, and usually reaches higher peak numbers, and that’s a game that’s barely a year old.

I think the problem is that publishers and developers don’t provide real alternatives. Instead they just slam the market with bad copies of games that people are already enjoying.

Why would you ever expect that to succeed?

Why would I buy a bad copy of a Ferrari when I already own a Ferrari?

Hmmm….let me see…..maybe that’s because……

HARDLY ANYONE RELEASES GAMES ON THE PC ANYMORE!?!?!?!?!

I wish they would. I quite enjoy putting on the headphones and enjoying my PC gaming time while the wife and kids use the main tv in the living room.

Hey Kudo, the Douchepokalips called, they want their mascot back.

You gotta give MS “credit” for getting everyone to play FPSs with a control pad on consoles, how insane that even might still sound today. They lost loads of cash and needed massive patriotic marketing tricks to clearly offset the game against the Japanese console companies but they did it and kept repeating the same slogans and games, bravo.:(

Of course, if the only shooters MS can release on the PC are Halo 2, ShadowRun and Gears of War, some a year or even two years late and totally not well ported… then what the hell did they expect? That people would buy that?

Afaik most shooters are still multiplatform, only first-party titles aren’t. That’s not exactly the same as “hardly anyone playing shooters on PC”.

Who the hell is Kudo to say this? I thought he had something to do with Kinect, not gaming in general. Of course, this is just a scheme, with only one objective: “Hey Kids! Kudo here! Guess what?! Halo Reach isn’t on the PC, but the 360! By the way, buy Kinect”. Yeah, I can imagine a FPS on Kinect. Not! Also, try saying that to the millions of people who to this day still play Counter Strike and Garry’s Mod

This pratt should re word his claims to

‘developers are too fucking lazy to make decent FPS games on the PC’, then I might believe what he is saying.

The last few outings have been extremely dreadful in terms of bugs, ports and pure lazy developing.

I could also say that ‘hardly anyone plays RTS games on a console’

Another prick in the industry who needs to be slapped

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/20/around-266505-people-played-an-fps-on-a-pc-today/

^^ This…

@69 That’s almost half the number of people playing Halo Reach alone right this moment.

That’s… 10 times less than the number of players who played Halo Reach in the past 24 hours.

So in comparison to consoles, yes, that’s hardly anybody.

I hope no one takes him seriously

@70

…the mental patient speaks!

@72

…the idiot troll comes up with another brainless and vapid retort after his post was kicked into the dirt.

In fact, you just provided some solid statistics to help prove Kudo right. Thanks for those!

@73

You’re a fucking naive idiot for believing the MS PR machine…

Crysis walks in and shoot almost all console noobs with its graphics
Then ms/kb comes in and and make a perfect headshot from distance no console gamer can even dream of.
PC is the king of FPS games. Even if not all are playing them how it needs to be played.
Oh one more thing the PC has a motion controller for what, 30 years
@70 This is only Steam the service don’t track games like BC2, BF2 and shitload of other FPS games.

@74 What MS PR machine? I just checked the stats for the game. There are more people playing Halo Reach *right this second* than Valve has logged playing *every* FPS stored on its service in the last 24 hours.

And I imagine the number of people playing FPS games that aren’t logged onto Steam isn’t significantly much more, considering how heavily Steam in involved in the digital distribution of games nowadays.

There’s no hype in that. It’s just statistical numbers.

Facts.

And that’s just *one* game.

If you’d care to include the number of people also playing Modern Warfare 2, Red Dead Redemption, Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and Grand Theft Auto across both the PS3 and Xbox 360…

@76 Woooho I must congratulate Halo for being mediocre franchise with bad comunity and yes on my first try to play ever a FPS with controller on Halo 3 I won the round…

@76 This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the game. Did you even bother to read my previous posts, where I actually championed the PC as the better format for the genre? No, probably not.

Even if I thought Halo Reach was a bad game (I don’t), Kudo point is still substantially supported by the statistics available. Far more people are playing FPS games on console than on the PC. FAAAAAAAR more.

This is a fact supported by evidence.

@78Quality over quantity, I prefer that. Yes I am going to play TF2 and there will be like 5000 people but who cares the expirience will be better.

Everyone who still plays FPS on PC raise their left hand.

Everyone who plays FPS only on consoles raise their right hands.

Now keep them raised until this article hits 100 stupid,pointless comments.

When thats said and done count the difference and by the time you get to the 3rd person ask yourself do you really give a shit. Just play your games people. FPS is FPS regardless.

@79 So do I. This isn’t about quality. This is about whether Kudo’s point is true or not. It is.

@80 *raises hand*

@80 Agreeification.

@michael O’Conner

and where does Kudo get all of his stats from? GFWL vs XBL? more than likely. If you add all of the Matchmaking services for the PC compared to all of the consoles, you will probably find that FPS gaming is played more on PC’s than on every console put together.

My kudo only gets the actual numbers from XBL and GFWL. They might have some added from other Matchmaking services, but I’m sure they will alter those numbers to suit their needs. Thats basic PR

@83 You could just look at the revenue the platforms bring in. The PC will be very lucky to get a third of the slice of a multiplatform title. It’s pretty unlikely that they’d have a larger community.

@84 Actually if you add “Tungle” and other pirated servers, i think there is a big winner and i mean really big. I don’t think about XBLA numbers, but there are some nice numbers anyway.

@85 Given that most people can’t be arsed to buy proper computers, I seriously doubt they can be arsed to go to that kind of trouble.

Casual western piracy is directly linked to laziness. That’s why most people believe that services like Steam or iTunes have managed to bring it down over the last few years, by making it easier than using torrents.

Either way, those pirates are never gonna give out their numbers, so they can’t be counted. And even if they did, the PC wouldn’t be a more viable platform for it, since those people have chosen not to contribute to it.

I’m a dedicated PC player, and I have been since I was 5 or 6, but it’s just pretty sad to pretend like the platform isn’t marginalized. It’s demented fanboy thinking, with no evidence what so ever to back it up.

“@85 Given that most people can’t be arsed to buy proper computers,”

Not to mention that can run into some coin too.

Instead of buying a PC to run my games, I buy my games to run on my PC. Meaning that I won’t/can’t always keep upto top shelf PC graphics. But when it is time for me to get a new PC, I try and get the best value and most power for my doller. And it lasts for as long as it lasts. When the games will no longer run on my system, I have to wait and/or buy older games instead.

But at the heart of it, isn’t that the crux of the console vs PC debate anyways?

And I think what the idea behind what the fella in the articale is saying isn’t that PC gaming sucks, but that we have made console gaming so painless to get into that the masses(that used to play this genere on PC) are now playing it on a console.

A couple hundred(at this point) and your set for a long time, never needing to upgrade to play something. Sound argument really.

But the reason I play on console for OMP boils down to xbl being closed and while people can cheese, they can not out right hack the game. I remember playing Quake and players had see through wall hacks, god hacks etc. Thats no fun.

Consoles are just easier for most to use, cheaper for most to maintain, and now, because seemingly everyone important has migrated to them, consoles have just about every game you are going to want to play. Esp FPS-wise.

That being said:

I can wait for Civ V wOOt

Toss in that and EQII Extended, and unless Gamefly gets me Reach soon, I won’t be on the console much at all.

Thats not aimed at you Erth, not really aimed at anyone tbh, just thinking outloud really.

unless its a steam purchased game, I dont use steam to launch any other games, including the crappy Bad company 2.

@everyone who has a problem with Tsunoda’s statement:

More of your friends buy COD, Bad Company 2, etc on the PC than on consoles? Really?

Consoles have been the major platform for the vast majority of FPS games for years now. You may not like it, but that’s how it is.

Other than Battlefield 2 and Valve games, the action has been on consoles.

If I can, I’ll buy the game for my laptop because it is portable. But I’ll play it with a game pad. That might make me nooby or crap at headshots or what ever, but its a fact I prefer the game pad.

OG got it right with the accessibility stuff, its too easy to get into games via console. I know everyone on here is profficient with PCs, as you are commenting on a thread. I’m not sure you appreciate just how retarded MOST people can be when it comes to using PC’s and especially windows operating system. I worked in PC support for a bit, and I tell you the majority of people couldn’t connect to a wireless network without getting stuck. Using PC’s is hard, using something like a console is easy. Simples!

@70
The stats are THAT high because the game just got out, and its “in” right now, when Modern Warfare 2 was out, there was a peak of like aprox 500,000 users if I remember correctly.. and that was on STEAM only.

also check what they say, the stats fluctuate up and down depending on the time, the peak was 2,700,000 aproximate users online on steam, who knows how many players were playing FPS.

also remember.. Microsoft, propaganda, and Marketting companies, love to exagerate their numbers to look better than they are.
Steam STATS is usually RAW DATA taken from the servers.
also who knows how many people play OUTSIDE of STEAM.

Believe the stats or not but Halo3 is three years old and still 351k games in the last 24h.
Despite the fact, that Reach is out…

A good friend of mine, who used to play Battlefield on PC, spending every free hour he had. Really, one could say he was obsessed with it. Than he got a PS3. End of the story.

“And I imagine the number of people playing FPS games that aren’t logged onto Steam isn’t significantly much more, considering how heavily Steam in involved in the digital distribution of games nowadays.”

Unlike most online console games, PC games with an online component do got a very long life. As the comments in that PCG post mention already, Steam stats show nothing about the non-Steam versions of several games and show nothing of what Xfire or Gamespy have been tracking for years.

All that aside, on consoles the FPS genre is dominating the online space, on PC though it has serious online competition from MMOs/action RPGs and to a lesser extent RTSs. It’s a varied platform, thank you very much.

Um is this guy in idiot or does he have a 360 so far up his butt he can’t see straight? Its not that PC gamers aren’t playing FPS games, its the fact that game developers have the 360(which happens to be 7 years old) so far up there butts that all the PC guys get is some crappy port AKA MW2. I mean no PC gamer wants a hitbox so huge that you can shoot a bullet pass a character and still kill him like they can in the consoles. I still prefer my PC over my consoles for FPS any day, I have had steam since 2003 and more than 3/4 of the games I own are on PC. I only have things like Guitar Hero and racing games like Blur and Need for speed on my Consoles…..

Ok, let’s make some sense of this.

First of all, he doesn’t say “Less people play shooters on PC than on consoles”, he says “hardly anyone plays first-person shooters on the PC anymore”. Now the first statement is likely true, given that consoles have opened up FPS to the console players. The second statement, which he made, is significantly less likely true. Especially the “anymore” part. Of the 20 odd shooter players that I personally know and play with for the last few years on PC, no one has switched to consoles for multiplayer shooters. Even though of course some people do switch, I would guess that it’s a single digit percent figure. So the console demographic is still the console demographic, and the PC demographic is still the PC demographic.
So the bottom line is that they made shooters viable for consoles and therefore ADDED the console demographic to the PC demographic. So the PC is doing well I suppose, and will be as long as Valve, ID, Blizzard and a few other dedicated PC developers are around, not just for shooters but gaming in general.

That guy’s a complete idiot, I wish he would shut up for once.

Can we also assume hardly anyone will play FPS on Kinect?

@98 Probably.

Kudo is one ignorant bastard,
When Halo 1 PC and Custom Edition were made they were great for PC,
it was developed by Bungie and Gearbox.

Lets see what happened when Microsoft tries to make Halo on PC.
We got this death port of a game called Halo 2 for Windows Vista, which was notably the crappiest game ever conceived, it made Halo 1 PC/CE look awesome.

Heh, oh wow! I wonder how he came to that awfully ingenious conclusion!

I think his bosses at M$ need to tell that guy not to do press-conferences while inebriated. :I