Thu, Sep 02, 2010 | 11:48 BST
MS: Kinect launch line-up lacks adult content but will satisfy the core

You looked at Kinect Adventures and put it in your casual box. You were wrong, buddy. Kudo says so.
Kinect creative boss Kudo Tsunoda has told VG247 that Kinect’s launch line-up contains the right “skill-based gameplay” to satisfy core players, despite the fact it features no mature content.
“While we’re not putting out mature-rated content on Kinect in the launch line-up, I do think we’ve focused a lot on really building that depth of gameplay and skill-based gameplay into the games,” said the exec, speaking at gamescom.
“The example I always use now; would you say Sonic games are core or casual? That’s right. And hey, we’ve got a Sonic game right there in our launch line-up, right? Sonic is a core game, and if I was coming here with Kinect and you’d never heard of Sonic, and there’s this little hedgehog and you’re running around collecting rings, everyone would be, like, ‘Where’s the core content?’ But that is a core game.
“That’s how we look at the Kinect launch line-up. We want to put in the skill-based gameplay and have the depth of gameplay that gamers love. And I think you really see that in all the titles, whether it’s Adventures, whether it’s the sports game, Joyride; those are all things that really have that depth of gameplay.”
“Lots of different types of content”
Tsunoda went on to promise that more traditional core content would appear on the motion system in the future.
“If you’re talking about M-rated content or action games, I think that you saw at E3 we announced a Star Wars game, and I think that will have a lot of action content,” he said.
“Third-party developers have lots of different titles in the works. I think you’re going to see lots of different types of content coming onto the platform as well.”
Kinect’s main launch line-up titles are Kinect: Adventures and Kinect: Sports, with Harmonix’s Dance Central being the most wanted game in the gamer space.
Titles such as Kinectimals, Joyride and Ubisoft’s Your Shape – Fitness Evolved are also included, giving a distinctly “light” feel to the system’s initial software.
Here’s the lot, as confirmed at E3. There still hasn’t been an official press release confirming launch software for the UK and Europe, so don’t take this as gospel:
- Kinect Adventures (Microsoft Game Studios)
- Kinectimals (Frontier Studio/Microsoft Game Studios)
- Kinect Joy Ride (Big Park/Microsoft Game Studios)
- Kinect Sports (Rare/Microsoft Game Studios)
- Dance Central (MTV Games)
- Your Shape: Fitness Evolved (Ubisoft)
- EA Sports Active 2 (EA)
- Deca Sports Freedom (Hudson)
- Dance Masters (Konami)
- Adrenalin Misfits (Konami)
- Zumba Fitness (Majesco)
- Sonic Free Riders (Sega)
- The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Workout (THQ)
- Motion Sports (Ubisoft)
- Game Party: In Motion (Warner Bros.)
Kinect launches in the US on November 4, to be followed in Europe on November 10.


39 comments
#1
Robo_1
02/09/10, 11:49 am
You know your launch line up is solid shit when you’re pimping the fact that you’ve got a Sonic game their day one.
Although to be fair, Sonic Colours does look pretty good.
#2
Psychotext
02/09/10, 11:53 am
There’s only three things in there which might be worth a look…
Dance Central
Fitness Evolved
Kinectimals
Everything else is filled with significant quantities of fail.
#3
AHA-Lambda
02/09/10, 11:56 am
lacks adult content but will satisfy the core? that seems like a contradiction to me
#4
JimFear666
02/09/10, 11:57 am
sorry all i read was blah blah blah here our pr bullshit.
#5
Erthazus
02/09/10, 12:05 pm
Sheep will buy this anyway.
I remember my vacation with my girlfriend and in hotel i showed her videos of Kinect and Dance Central on her Lap Top, she said: Oh, Wow, now you can actually stand in front of the TV and play and that is awesome. Sitting and playing just sucks.
All Right. When i will die, i imagine that everyone will stand and dance or fuck in front of the TV.
I hope that i will play Half-Life 3, Diablo 3, New Metal Gear or The Last Guardian till that day will come.
#6
Johnny Cullen
02/09/10, 12:09 pm
Dance Central, and Milo if it ever does come, is so far the only reason I may get Kinect. Right now, it’s swaying 70-30 that I won’t get it.
#7
StolenGlory
02/09/10, 12:14 pm
I would take Kudo’s comments with some kind of genuine respect if I thought he wasn’t a massive twat.
#8
Suikoden Fan
02/09/10, 12:15 pm
I’m as hardcore as a hardcore gamer can get so
Kinect Adventures HELL NO
Kinectimals NO
Kinect Joy Ride (NO, ESPECIALLY NOT SINCE MNR IS OUT
Kinect Sports NO
Dance Central NO
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved NO
EA Sports Active 2 NO
Deca Sports Freedom NO
Dance Masters (NO
Adrenalin Misfits NO
Zumba Fitness NO
Sonic Free Riders WHEN THIS IS THE MOST ‘CORE LIKE’ TITLE OF THE BUNCH YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO BE WORRIED, AND NO
The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Workout NO
Motion Sports NO
Game Party: In Motion NO
#9
Psychotext
02/09/10, 12:22 pm
You have to get it JC… I want to see more of your dance moves on youtube.
#10
GamesPlayer1
02/09/10, 12:28 pm
@8 AGREED rotflmao
#11
Johnny Cullen
02/09/10, 12:30 pm
I’d like to take this opportunity to announce my retirement from dancing.
I will dance to the public no more.
#12
_LarZen_
02/09/10, 12:59 pm
Kinect is in most cases not for the avrage X360 gamer, but people that have never played before or never had any interest in it.
Suddenly they want to try becaus it look’s so easy and fun. And then suddenly you are standing in your livingroom jumping,lauging and having a great time with a person that never play any games.
That is what Kinect is all about
#13
itsucks
02/09/10, 1:14 pm
Kinect Adventures HELL YES
Kinectimals NO
Kinect Joy Ride (YES, ESPECIALLY NOT SINCE MNR IS SHIT
Kinect Sports YES
Dance Central HELL YESS KILLER APP
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved NO
EA Sports Active 2 NO
Deca Sports Freedom NO
Dance Masters (NO
Adrenalin Misfits NO
Zumba Fitness NO
Sonic Free Riders SUCK IT
The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Workout NO
Motion Sports NO
Game Party: In Motion NO
#14
Erthazus
02/09/10, 1:16 pm
@13 AWESOME
Can you make a video playing all this SHIT please?
Pretty please ? ^___^
#15
itsucks
02/09/10, 1:27 pm
@Ertwhatzus:
Can you send your sister for a litlle of in-out? My cock’s treat.
You can pleasure yourself with your boyfriend I guess, missy. AMIRITE?IMSORITE. *^_^*
#16
Erthazus
02/09/10, 1:29 pm
@15 ahahaha
Nice one, sir…
but i don’t have a sister
so your only choice is masturbating on your lovely Xbox 360
sad, sad 15 year old fanboy
don’t forget for a special treatment. Masturbating in front of Kinect
remember to post them on Facebook and Twitter
#17
Suikoden Fan
02/09/10, 1:42 pm
@Erthazua now microsoft can watch people masturbate and blackmail them in the future. OR a japanese devs may make a new type off adult game ‘hand jive’
#18
justiceblob
02/09/10, 1:52 pm
@17 can’t be any worse than that game for DS where you feel up school girls to find a mark on them that proved they were a witch.
*Edit* I just remembered the name Dokidoki Majosaiban (Exciting Witch Trial/ Heart Thumping Witch Investigation) The wikipedia page brings back good times.
#19
_LarZen_
02/09/10, 1:56 pm
Good to see we can talk about Kinect in a adult way here on vg247!
#20
Michael O’Connor
02/09/10, 2:17 pm
As much as I will support the Kinect… Microsoft are seriously talking through their asses here by claiming its got core support at launch.
#21
OlderGamer
02/09/10, 2:23 pm
I wonder does “Core” and “Adult” gamer really mean the samething to everyone?
I see Core as the traditional 15yr old to 21yr old male. I think as the medium slowly expands that range might expand with it. Already has been really. But in terms of a 33yr old gamer, male or female, are they “core” gamers? Prolly not, but they are adults.
And what about 43yr olds, 53 yr olds, and 63yr olds?
At some point the industry should devalue that small window of age apropiate “core” gamers. There is a market for a lot more then shooters. Not bitching, just saying.
From my perspective, it always seems funny to hear people talk about the core gamer.
I like the kinect line up. Nothing wrong with it. You didn’t honestly expect CoD MW2 did you? The very fact that Kinect and Move(and the Wii) are out there is homage being paid to the fact that the none core(as a whole) has more buying power then just the comparitivly smaller core audiance.
That being said, no way I am buying Kinects right now, prolly not Move at launch either.
Just asking, doesn’t anyone else think the mention of satisfying the core sound like lip service? While at the same time the actual service is being aimed beyond those age groups.
I do, and I don’t have a problem with that.
#22
_LarZen_
02/09/10, 2:45 pm
It’s a difficult ting to say who wil buy Kinect or who the games are aimed at I think. I cant say much since im under NDA but as I see it Kinect is for everyone…dont mather if you are a casual,core or hardcore gamer.
Kinect is something new, something for everyone to have some fun with. And as post nr 21 says: “You didn’t honestly expect CoD MW2 did you?”
That’s not what Kinect is about…as of now there wont come any games like MW2 or anything like it for Kinect. You know what? Thank God..or Microsoft..whomever you think is more powerfull
Im pushing my NDA now but I think MS wil approve when I share one little experience with Kinect.
My girlfriend do not play games, she thinks they are stupid and complicated. I fire up Kinect and I think it went about 5 minutes and she says that look’s realy fun! Can I try?
And before I know it me a gamer since the dawn of time was playing a game with my girlfriend! Doing all kinds of funny moves, laughing and having a great time!
That’s when I realised this is what Kinect is all about!
#23
freedoms_stain
02/09/10, 2:49 pm
“Adult” in respect to the entertainment industry has always meant child inappropriate material such as violence, agression, sex and strong language, it doesn’t reflect an age group other than >18, maybe >21 if you’re US.
#24
Gekidami
02/09/10, 2:50 pm
^ It dosnt really matter in this case. Nothing on that list is either ‘adult’ or ‘core’.
#25
The Hindle
02/09/10, 2:52 pm
This isnt aimed at us guys, its aimed at widening the 360s appeal so the Xbox brand can hit the mass market.
Thats one weakness that the Xbox has always had is its niche appeal when compared to Sony or Nintendo.
#26
onlineatron
02/09/10, 2:54 pm
I love how the biggest xbox fan on the site (itsucks) has no interest in 70% of the launch titles.
This doesn’t bode well for Microsoft.
#27
DrDamn
02/09/10, 2:55 pm
I have a pretty firm belief that no two people agree what core/hardcore gamer actually means
.
Having read the article on EG about Kinect Sports I can kind of see what he is talking about. I’d like to try some of it before agreeing with any of the conclusions though.
I have a regular games night with a few friends where certain party games get played every week. Stuff like the stunts in Flatout/Flatout:UC or Boom Blox on the Wii. What separates a good party game from a bad one to us is how much control there really is and what the depth to the controls is like. For example Flatout 1 has a high jump mini-game. This is played loads – even though it’s an old XBox one game. This is because whilst the core mechanic is get as high as you can – how you achieve the perfect jump is down to a lot of factors and skill. Line up, when you hit full throttle, timing and angle of release. In comparison there is a ski-jump game in Flatout:UC – this gets the occasional run out but there seems to be too much of a random factor involved in the results. Something you don’t control.
The point to this rambling is that Kudo is implying there are elements of Flatout High jump in the launch titles rather than Flatout:UC Ski Jump. Regardless of the look of the games. That is what makes them core gaming experiences.
I think for me the issue will be if there is the accuracy to measure the nuances of movement needed to achieve those experiences.
#28
Gadzooks!
02/09/10, 2:58 pm
“I wonder does “Core” and “Adult” gamer really mean the samething to everyone?”
It shouldnt. Core refers to gaming habits and has nothing to do with age.
“I like the kinect line up. Nothing wrong with it.”
Indeed, it does exactly what Microsoft want it to do, which is bring in a wider gaming audience. They already have the core, and core game uses for Kinect will follow, but the launch is aimed at an audience that they are on track to hit dead centre.
Kudo Tsunoda is not saying there are core title here anyway, he is saying they are titles aimed at casual gamers, but the gameplay will have depth enough to satisfy core gamers.
Personally I think he’s wrong.
#29
The Hindle
02/09/10, 3:06 pm
But then what contradicts what i just said is the price tag, no casual gamer is going to pay £130 plus the console when they could just buy a Wii.
#30
Michael O’Connor
02/09/10, 3:09 pm
@21 When I think of the word “core”, I think of a game that has solid, in-depth gameplay mechanics to learn, a pre-defined experience and challenged that you make your way through, and as a preferable bonus, some sort of learning curve and extra depth under the service.
That isn’t (and shouldn’t be) synonymous with “adult” though. That’s just stupid. Mario isn’t an adult title, Zelda games aren’t adult titles, but they’re still “core” games, and some of the best to boot.
“Casual” games are one with short pick-up-and-play experience, very simply controls, and little to no depth to their gameplay.
This doesn’t make them a bad thing though. Despite being one of the most hardcore gamers you’ll meet, I’m perfectly okay with casual games inhabiting the same space with core games.
@24 I would argue that both Dance Central and Sonic Colours are core games, but they’re about the only ones there.
@29 Expect this to be a long term endeavour. Microsoft are known for sticking to projects long term, simply because they have the money to burn to do so.
Prices will eventually go down. The Wii wasn’t always as cheap as it is now either.
#31
DrDamn
02/09/10, 3:10 pm
@29
I think the fitness angle might swing that. People love blowing money on fitness stuff which they then end up using very little of. That and the Dance Central title are the cleverest fits in that list. The rest could well be dross but if they nail one of those they could be in.
#32
theevilaires
02/09/10, 3:16 pm
All I can say is NATAL is not a day one purchase. Simple as that.
#33
Galactic_Barret
02/09/10, 6:05 pm
At least we can all agree that Kinect has the worst line-up of the MC, right? Core, casual, inbetween; All of that is superfluous when your entry games contain so little to attract the audience you’ve courted since the beginning.
The PS2, the “first” casual console, should prove that to branch out past labels, you need the software to back it up as well as the ability to cater to your current constituents. Neither (Move, Kinect) does both (well) at present but I feel that satisfying your tried and true fanbase then branching is smarter then the other way around.
#34
Max Pain
02/09/10, 6:23 pm
Kinect is a stupid name .. Natal was better..
MS got Dance Central, only game that looks realy good and i want it !
PS got allready lots of games that supports Move.. realy good ones too
but you all know hows going to decide the winner …”the ladys”
and what do “the ladys” want ?
Dance Central ofc !
#35
OlderGamer
02/09/10, 6:48 pm
I think the first mainstream casual console was prolly the Gameboy.
But anyways I think the irony here is just what Hindle said, Kinect is too pricy to be casual right now. But Michael is right the price will go down, the Wiis did.
Food for thought, Move is listed at 100usd for the bundle at Gamestop. I think it comes with the token sports game, a wand and cam – no left handed controler(pretty sure). Sure it is cheaper, but neither are, imo, priced to sell this holiday. They need to be impulse buys, around 50usd(w/packed in game).
As far Core vs Adult, I am not sure that situation exsists outside of eletist gamers that consider themself “true” hard “core” gamers(like that means anything lol)
No offense to anyone, it just makes me smile, ya know?
As if:
“Look Bobby, he is hardcore!!”
“Is that a PSP he is holding?”
“Hells yes, Bobby”
“Um, but that makes him a ..”
“I know, right, he is a Core Gamer!”
“I was going say Nerd, but sure, sure Core, whatever”
Just plan silly.
And also Mario and Zelda were mentioned as Core games. While I agree that they are widly appealing, and have depth of control and gameplay. Hard to peg them really, after my 10 yr old nephew got done playing Mario, I picked it up. Then went out and bought my own copy of Super Mario Bros Wii.
Labels kind of stink anyways. If ya like the game, enjoy it.
#36
Michael O’Connor
02/09/10, 7:00 pm
@35 Problem is with people taking the labels too serious.
For me “core” and “casual” are nothing more than descriptors for the type of game it is. There’s nothing wrong with either.
Your gaming experience will be far more enjoyable if you embrace and appreciate them both on their merits, instead of criticising the other for what it’s not.
#37
OlderGamer
02/09/10, 7:03 pm
@36 yea pretty much.
#38
Erthazus
02/09/10, 7:19 pm
@36 “Problem is with people taking the labels too serious.”
No one is taking labels too serious. People enjoy certain games with these labels.
I, for myself don’t like Dance type games, motion control type of games. Thats just me. I think they are full of **** and waste of my precious time.
There is no depth, world, challenge or something interesting. Just chaos.
#39
justiceblob
02/09/10, 7:48 pm
@38 I’d say Dance Central looks fairly deep, as in takes skill to master. I agree that some of these games will jjst descend into chaos, but taring them all with the same brush is nonsensical being as none of us have played them.